Sikhs are our neighbours, and deserve a better life than being slaves of banya.
I dedicate this thread to Khalistan



Sikh massacare by hindus










Sikh protest

Khalistan Zindabad - Sach Di Awaz

Khalistan Bano'nah Hai

Khalistan: The Interview of Bhai Daljit Singh Bittu

Khalistan day 2008 -Smethwick UK- Lord Nazir Ahmed, Chair PNSD

hindu attrocities on Sikhs

Khalistan struggle is dead. It only exists on the internet. The Sikhs for all the tales of valour and bravery have chickened out. The Brahiminical leadership played a masterstroke by making Manmohan Singh the Prime Minister of India. That proved to be last straw and won over a lot of Sikhs.

such things do get postponed occasionally, but never die.

dont forget the favour Benazir did to the sikhs by giving up their leaders names to the indian intelligence, wonder how much money she got for that?

These bast@rds need to be paid in full with interest for what they did to muslims during partion. I say join hands with the banya and elimanate the very last trace of sikhs

What happened during partition was more of British design due to timing and boundary decisions. Sikhs behaved like animals too but it was expected. may be on lesser scale, but similar lootings happened in our Punjab too.
If you remove police and other law enforcement agencies from any part of Pakistan today, many people will start looting and killing each other.
we saw this in Iraq when people killed eachothers and looted govt offices, museums etc, after dispersal of Saddam's forces.


everyone has birth right of independence from a mean master.
I would prefer Khalistan on east border. I don't think Khalistan will be as bad as India for Pakistan.

Actually, that was Sonia Gandhi's decision and she happens to be a Roman Catholic Christian.



As for why the Khalistan movement is dead today.

1. Punjab is the most affluent state in India and Sikhs are the most well off community today.

2. Most of the bloodshed happened in 1984, more than 25 years ago. Half of today's population wasn't even born then. Like the Partition its gradually being forgotten.

actually time is a double edged sword. generation who didn't see bloodshed of 25 years ago should have no fear of hindu, but they have inherited hate for indian rule.

I agree
I have discussed this with alot of sikhs here
Both young and old have hate for hindus, but old people say its not possible for sikhs in 1billion to get indipendence
young still speak about it

I noticed this effect from Palestinian resistance. every new generation starts fresh without any fear of Israeli Might.

There's no support for Khalistan today except among some old-timers.

I don't know about UK folks, but I know it is cooking in Canada and US

[b]There is a huge support for Khalistan out there.

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Killers involved in the killings of 500 (official) and 10,000 (unofficial) sikhs in 1984 riots are still outside on bail.

Khalistan is dead guys. It just remains as the recreational activity of expat oldtimers.

Sikhs hate Pakistan more than India, inspite of all the atrocities and storming of their Golden temple they still make a significant portion the Indian army.

I have sikh friends (lots) and I can tell you that:

It is true that Sikhs hate muslims because a majority of their Gurus were killed by the muslim rulers.

It is also true that Sikhs have not forgetten the promise Nehru made to them at the time of partition of Khalistan.

It is also true that Sikhs have not forgetten what happenned at Golden Temple.

It is also true that Sikhs have not forgetten how 10,000 sikhs including women and children were all lined up and shot dead.

It is also true that Khalistan movement recieved a great blow thanks to the backbiting of Benazir bhutto but anyone who thinks it is dead is living in a fool's land.

and I never consider Sikhs as Indians. Sikhs are totally different people.

All the sikhs don't seemed to be impressed by the Chankiya's 'master stroke;' that is, 'appointment' of a Sikh Prime Minister or Chief of Army Staff, Air Force, etc.

According to the Hindu Cast System; as enshrined in the holiest Hindu Scriptures called Vedas, Sikhs and other minorities in India are 5th Class citizens. Self delusion will achieve absolutely nothing; except assimilation and becoming ‘Hinduised’ version of Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, etc.


Image: Golden Temple always reminds me the Babri Mosque.

Image: Freedom from slavery is achieved only when a person starts to feel and understand that he would prefer death to life as a slave. Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale, September 20th, 1983




New Delhi, Saturday, February 06, 2010: A sudden emergence of pro-Khalistan posters at the national capital’s famous Gurudwara Bangla Sahib caused an alarm on Saturday, with both the Congress as well as the BJP expressing concern.

The Delhi Police immediately removed the posters from the entrance wall of the gurudwara, following a complaint that the posters called for pro-Khalistan supporters to congregate at Gurudwara Fatehgarh Sahib in Punjab on February 12 – the birth anniversary of Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale who started the Khalistan movement demanding a separate independent nation.

Bhindranwale died in Operation Blue Star in 1984.

What raised eyebrows was a call in the posters for supporters to complete ‘the unfinished task’ – apparently the creation of a separate nation.

Sources said the posters were apparently put up at the behest of SAD (Amritsar) president Simranjit Singh Mann.

Reacting to the development, BJP’s Rajiv Pratap Rudy said it was a “matter of concern and that the Central government should take action again separatist powers” trying to raise their heads again.

ZN

THis is news to me. really!!


That was exactly the point i was trying to make above. That the are a part of the very army that stormed the Golden temple.


Its not a question of what you and I think. They wouldn't fight for India unless they consider themselves Indians

Feel free to believe what you want if it helps you sleep easy at night.

I am telling you from my personal interactions with Sikhs which includes going to their Gurdwaras:

Khalistan moment is very much alive and this time, when it erupts, no one would be able to stop sikhs from achieving Khalistan.

Nobody can deny that Khalistan has quite a bit of support in the Sikh communities of Canada and the US, especially among second and third generation Sikhs.

But the movement is (for all practical purposes) dead in Punjab. Pro-Khalistan rallies in India have become washed out affairs with a small and dwindling number of people participating.

Im also of the opinion that Khalistan movement is dead. In recent years, India has succeded in intregrating the Sikhs into its society. Now, the Sikhs gets the same treatment as the black gets in the US.

The Sikhs in Indian have simply gone underground because Indian government would pick them up after rallies and no one knows what happenned to them.

Exactly; the local sikh population, new generation, is as much in love with bollywood as rest of endia

You talk about Khalistan; lol; using bollywood half of our Pakistani younger generation is already dancing on endian tunes

Who is conquering whom?

Only expatriate Sikhs do remember and raise their voice for Khalistan

Plus

Thre are no more Akhtar Abdur Rehmans or Zia ul Haqs on our side; and I don't see them coming anytime in near future

let us start helping the sikhs organize. there is an opportunity here and it should be utilized. if we can get a few hundred sikhs from abroad to go back and start the new phase of the babbar khalsa then we should definitely do it.

one thing i can tell you is, the sikhs program their youth VERY well. doesn't matter if they're watching some bollywood flick, the fact remains that they are programmed to think in a certain way. they are conflicted about their attitude and beliefs towards bhindia. we need to not only help the sikhs but help the freedom struggle in every state. we can achieve this by infiltrating the BJP, RSS and the like and making them more extreme and turn them against each other.

You sound like a British officer on a mission to destroy a nation. A good human shud never kill peace (Dont forget peace means Islam). Sikhs are very much happy in India, and today both hindus and sikhs are living in peace. Im not throwing flowers on India, all im saying is that we shud not be instigating violence. It is for the Sikhs to ask our help, wich we shud provide if ever needed, but judging at the current situation that will not be necesary.

I THINK THIS THREAD IS GOOD AT LEAST IT IS TAKING BHANGEES OUT. THEIR cover is broken , keep it up guys
on the serious note at least one of the guru i think arjun dev was killed or to be precise made to commit suicide by drowning himself in Ravi river by some Chandu shah the brahmin minister of governor of Lahore.The reason was huge social change in society of Punjab by Mian Mir and the Sikh guru,s which almost ended Brahmin dominance in Punjabi society.chandu shah was later killed on the orders of mughal empror

When we started showing truth about "Shining India" back in 2006, people found it hard to believe, but today everyone knows the truth. even Indians are making movies like Slumdog millionaire to make money by displaying rotten side of "Shining India". check google or youtube and see yourself.

reporting, prediction and events have a mysterious interdependency, and you will understand the delicate connection with time. No metaphysics involved, just pure social science which is not taught in schools.

I predict Khalistan as future of east punjab. this thread is to discuss facts (and may be events if they take shape any soon). wait and see.

Unlike in the past, the central government does not intercede in state affairs except in where there is a serious threat to law and order and the state government doesn't have the resources or resolve to handle it.

With regard to the state government taking action; the chief minister is a Sikh as are a majority of his minister. The entire saga of demonstrators being picked up by security agencies is in the past.

Khalistan is over. Today's generation wasn't exposed to the events of yesteryear and have other priorities today. Even Khalistani leaders who'd fled to the west were dismayed by the lack of support they found, when they were permitted to return to India.

Interesting. If this plan ever to fruition, the country of Khalistan would end up having a majority of Hindus not Sikhs.

Leave it to the Sikhs; they know how to fix this problem. First let the Eastern States get their rights and then rest of the 'house of cards' may follow suit.

An idelogy might loose support, but it never dies altogether

You show the pictures in post 5 to a hundred Sikhs and atleast someone will call for Khalistan

Sikhs are a minority in East Punjab, large numbers of their men serve in the armed forces and there is hardly an utter of Khalistan in India from the Sikhs. I think this episode belongs in the history books….

Let’s concentrate on Kashmir and the very real problem we have.

Nehru once said that let first India gain its freedom and then we will see who else dares demand the same rights. I guess, they all can now conveniently be lumped together as 'terrorists.'

The non-violent movement of Gandhi succeeded brilliantly since there were about 300 Million Indians facing few thousand British. When the tables turned and Sikhs, Kashmiris, etc. demanded their rights; we all know what happened. Another tragedy is unfolding in Eastern part of India as well.









After the military attack on Darbar Sahib Amritsar, and the Martyrdom of Baba Jarnail Singh Khalsa, Bhindranwale, the Sikh Army took on a new shape. While the Hindu dominated Indian Government was busy trying to exterminate the Sikhs, and announced that they had "broken their back", the Sikh Freedom Fighters re-organized themselves into several forces, dedicated to liberating the Sikh Homeland. The popular forces included:

Khalistan Commando Force: Headed by General Labh Singh Ji

Babbar Khalsa International: Headed by Jathedar Sukhdev Singh Ji "Babbar" Jathedar Talwinder Singh Ji and Bhai Wadhawa Singh "Babbar"

Khalistan Liberation Force: Headed by Avtar Singh "Brahma", and later by Bhai Gurjant Singh "BudhSinghWala"

Bhindranwala Tigers Force: Headed by Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal

These Sikh Freedom Fighters quickly became popular among the masses, and have been looked upon by the young and old alike. This, of course, did not suit the Fascist Indian Government. Since the early 1980's the Punjab police along with thousands of paramilitary troops began a systematic, terror campaign not only against the these Freedom Fighters, but also against the general Sikh public. Thousands of young Sikh men between the ages of 15-25 were imprisoned, tortured, and afterwards exterminated. Sikh women were humiliated in public, stripped naked, and gang raped by the government hoodlums. Anyone whom the Indian tyrants suspected was quickly arrested or conveniently "eliminated" in routinely staged fake encounters. These actions only strengthened the resolve of the Sikhs to rid their Homeland of the Indian Invaders, and establish self-rule.

To create chaos and destabilize the Freedom Movement, the Indian government, has planted its agents (pseudo-Sikhs) in all Sikh organizations in Punjab. Many agents are actually Punjabi Hindus disguised as Sikhs. They have also infiltrated most of the Sikh Organizations and Temples abroad. The main goal of these agents is to discredit the Independence Movement and create confusion among the general public.

In Punjab, the Government is spending millions of dollars in a campaign to "Hindu-ize" the Sikhs into the old-Brahmanic fold. To weaken the future generation's religious attitudes illicit drugs, pornography, and alcohol is being made readily available to the youths of Punjab. Television programs are aimed to promote anti-Sikh behavior, which they believe will cause the new generation to lose its religious identity. This is exactly what the Sikh Freedom Fighters are fighting against.

Since the Eighties, countryside of Punjab has been wasted by the Indian Army, Sikh men are routinely rounded up and killed in fake encounters.





















PK

If the Khalistan movement is dead, then its our task to resurrect it. It takes a small spark to start a forest fire. Lets create that spark and let india burn.

Let the spark come from oppressed Sikhs, poor Sikhs have suffered enough from Hindu treachory .

I think this Pak_afaz is a bhindian rat who is pretending to be a Pakistani!!

hindus beating a sikh

Hindu army stole the clothes of dead Sikh freedom fighter

Sikh burnt alive by Hindus