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pingpong1901
AQ Khan backs Iran's right to develop nukes

http://www.nation.com.pk/Pakistan-news-new...o-develop-nukes
HKK
Link not working. If Dr Sahab has said such thing then I would have to disagree here. These bloody persian are the scums, Ahsaan Framosh. After all what we have done for them, they are bad mouthing us.
qureshi
I dont want to qoute the name of one of my teacher say that the design and the centrifuges given to Iran and Libia was not 100 % working that why they bite us.
HKK
Lol.. more was a case of jahil persians and libyans didnt know what to do with it. In classic urdu phrase "Give monkey a coconut, it wont know what to do with it".
Nawabshah
Iran has been regional power since biblical times. Iran has neither attacked nor invaded any country this century. I think it is in Pakistan interest to see Iran as a nuclear power. Iran has more PhD's than Pakistan and has more research scientists. Iran has vast energy resources so it did not see benefits of nuclear power during Shah regime. Iran is now threatened by Israel and USA it has the right to protect itself with nuclear weapons. It is some Arab countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia that have no nuclear scientists and oppose Iran with support from illegal Zionist entity. I fully support A Q Khan's views on this issue.
Pakstinger
In any case Pakistan should not give nuclear support to Iran, once you transfer technology you no longer have control over it.
SaudiArabian
QUOTE
It is some Arab countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia that have no nuclear scientists

Egypt and Saudi Arabia both have decades-old nuclear programs and have plenty of scientists in that field.

Egypt already has a nuclear reactor although its been inactive. Egypt can easily relaunch its nuclear reactor but it wont unless its economicly profitable.
Tamerlane
AQ Khan backs Iran's right to develop nukes

Islamabad: Disgraced Pakistani nuclear scientist A Q Khan has backed Iran's right to develop nuclear energy and said a propaganda campaign had been launched against that country's atomic programme.

The West is biased against the nuclear programmes of all Islamic countries, including Iran, Khan claimed in an interview to the Iranian state-run Irna news agency.

"If Iran fires a missile then it is wrong, but if Israel does it then it is right," said Khan, who was placed under house arrested after he confessed in early 2004 that he had provided nuclear secrets to several countries, including Iran.

Khan claimed every action of the Muslim world is considered wrong by the West. He also claimed a majority of Muslim countries had "surrendered before the power of the West, which is unfortunate".

Replying to a question about the proposal to send 70 per cent of Tehran's enriched uranium out of the country for further enrichment, Khan said Iran is an independent state and will make a decision on this issue while keeping in view its interests.

"However, the international scenario is such that the West is against Iran, and Muslims countries are so weak that they cannot help Iran," he claimed.

Khan said he believed there is no harm if Iran sends its uranium to other countries for further enrichment.

"At least, Iran could achieve nuclear capability which cannot be taken away and in future, Iran could use this capability according to its desires," Khan said.

Iran has faced three sets of UN Security Council sanctions over its refusal to freeze its uranium enrichment activities.

The country, a leading oil producer, denies it is seeking nuclear weapons and says it aim is to provide energy for its growing population when its reserves of fossil fuels run out.

Asked about restrictions imposed on his movement, Khan claimed the Lahore High Court had ordered authorities to remove these restrictions.

"I can go anywhere at my own choice," he claimed.

"I would be provided with security according to my needs and soon my lawyer will hold a meeting with the authorities concerned on the issue," he said.

The Islamabad High Court recently declared Khan a "free man" and authorities have eased some of the restrictions imposed on him following a secret understanding between the scientist and the government.

However, Pakistan has ruled out the possibility of foreign investigators being granted access to Khan.

http://www.nation.com.pk/Pakistan-news-new...o-develop-nukes

Tamerlane
I think that Iran should develop nuclear weapons and Pakistan should fully support them. I would go even further than that and say that Pakistan should move some nuclear-tipped missiles in Iran since they're in danger of attack from America and it's allies.

The best thing that can happen nowadays is a joint defense pact between Iran and Pakistan as both countries are under threat from ther anti-Islamic alliance of America/Britain/Israel/India.

The enemies will not dare attack if Pakistan and Iran were together.
Shehz
I think Iran should offer A.Q. Khan a job, and relocate him there permanently.
lein303
For the sake of national security AQ khan should have been assasinated long ago, but then again we know how good the ISI is at protecting our national security
Tamerlane
Actually I agree, AQ should go to Iran. He'll be treated much better than he's being treated in Pakistan. But it'll have to be secret as I don't think Iran would be able to take the heat of AQ Khan's public presence in Iran.


Shehz
QUOTE (Tamerlane @ Nov 18 2009, 06:52 PM) *
But it'll have to be secret as I don't think Iran would be able to take the heat of AQ Khan's public presence in Iran.

Not possible.
Show AQ Khan a microphone, and he'll start singing like a canary in a karaoke lounge!
must7
QUOTE (Tamerlane @ Nov 18 2009, 06:52 PM)
But it'll have to be secret as I don't think Iran would be able to take the heat of AQ Khan's public presence in Iran.

Not possible.
Show AQ Khan a microphone, and he'll start singing like a canary in a karaoke lounge!


Hahahaha !
HKK
QUOTE (lein303 @ Nov 18 2009, 11:50 PM) *
For the sake of national security AQ khan should have been assasinated long ago, but then again we know how good the ISI is at protecting our national security


Mushy should have been assasinated the day he sidelined khan sahab from KRL on the orders of colin powel.

Khan Sahab for the presidency.
lein303
QUOTE (HKK @ Nov 19 2009, 05:20 AM) *
Mushy should have been assasinated the day he sidelined khan sahab from KRL on the orders of colin powel.

Khan Sahab for the presidency.


What a joke, AQ Khan and his worshippers are the biggest joke of the year, ever since this idiots been off of house arrest he couldnt manage to keep his mouth shut, he has either disclosed very secret state information, or just talked ludacris about laughable stuff such as "the chinese gifted us nuclear bombs" and what not.

He should have been assasinated the day the ISI finished using him for espionage, im straight forward and simple, ever since then he has been nothing more than a burden for the country. And I would much rather have gardari ###### as president than aq khan who cant even keep his story straight
truthseeker
QUOTE (Tamerlane @ Nov 18 2009, 11:42 PM) *
I think that Iran should develop nuclear weapons and Pakistan should fully support them. I would go even further than that and say that Pakistan should move some nuclear-tipped missiles in Iran since they're in danger of attack from America and it's allies.

The best thing that can happen nowadays is a joint defense pact between Iran and Pakistan as both countries are under threat from ther anti-Islamic alliance of America/Britain/Israel/India.

The enemies will not dare attack if Pakistan and Iran were together.


Imagine an alliance between Egypt, Turkey, Iran and Pakistan, four heavy weights....

Imagine all four having sophisticated nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles... gun_bandana.gif

Who could possibly stop us, or am I talking nonsense again?
Tamerlane
QUOTE (truthseeker @ Nov 19 2009, 09:33 PM) *
Imagine an alliance between Egypt, Turkey, Iran and Pakistan, four heavy weights....

Imagine all four having sophisticated nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles... gun_bandana.gif

Who could possibly stop us, or am I talking nonsense again?


That would be great - a dream come true. I believe that a core group of major Muslim countries should come together and form an alliance that would then expand one country at a time. We could even choose a relatively non-controversial subject as our first area of cooperation, e.g. for a joint space agency to launch a moon shot in 15 years.

As far as a military alliance is concerned, Turkey and Egypt are too much under Western/Zionist control to dare to enter a military alliance with Pakistan or Iran.

Right now the most demonized country in America and Britain is Pakistan and number two is Iran. Both countries are under American/Israeli assault and threat of destruction so they have a common enemy. Therefore it's these two countries that need to come together first.

America and it's allies have attacked almost every Muslim country and they're planning more attacks. Therefore as each country is threatened, like Syria, they could join the Pakistan/Iran alliance for protection.

Countries that think they can escape American/British/Israeli aggression are living in a fools paradise. If you read the plans made by the war-mongering Jews in America and Israel they plan to attack Egypt and Saudi Arabia also. The only reason they haven't yet is because they usually attack one country at a time and at the moment they're concentrating on Iran and Pakistan. Once these countries are finished they're going to go after Egypt and Saudi Arabia and even Turkey.

Unfortunately these countries are too stupid to realize that their turn will come soon. But they'll all join the Islamic alliance once their turn for regime change and destruction comes.

HKK
QUOTE (lein303 @ Nov 19 2009, 09:09 PM) *
What a joke, AQ Khan and his worshippers are the biggest joke of the year, ever since this idiots been off of house arrest he couldnt manage to keep his mouth shut, he has either disclosed very secret state information, or just talked ludacris about laughable stuff such as "the chinese gifted us nuclear bombs" and what not.

He should have been assasinated the day the ISI finished using him for espionage, im straight forward and simple, ever since then he has been nothing more than a burden for the country. And I would much rather have gardari ###### as president than aq khan who cant even keep his story straight



And you are the biggest clown.

No substance, no logic, no reasoning. Aq khan this, AQ khan that, Wahabism this and Wahabism that. when confronted, you are coming up with utter tosh and rubbish.

Be carefull what you you wish for, may come and bite on your back side!

Pak-Eye
QUOTE (HKK @ Nov 9 2009, 09:33 PM) *
Lol.. more was a case of jahil persians and libyans didnt know what to do with it. In classic urdu phrase "Give monkey a coconut, it wont know what to do with it".


lol
Its their intentions and inferiority complexes; like Iran, Qaddafi is also lost somewhere between Arab & Africa or between Africa & west
Pak_Afaz
"...AQ Khan shud be send to Iran" "... ISI shud have assasinated AQ Khan... " Wow, I'm astonish by what im reading here. Or perhaps not, because Pakistanis are known to let others down, to use them and backstab them later. Just compare, We let Bhutto be hanged, while Indra is still being mourned by millions, we disgraced AQ Khan while Abdoul Kalam became President of his country. If anything, Pakistanis shud be ashmed of themself. Honestly speaking i hate Pakistanis, but just like AQ khan, I love Pakistan.
imrankhan
In a fair world, there are two options for this topic:

1) All countries have nuclear weapons

2) No country has nuclear weapons

Although I would love to see option 2 being taken, I cannot see it happening.
diabolo
QUOTE (Pak_Afaz @ Dec 5 2009, 08:46 PM) *
"...AQ Khan shud be send to Iran" "... ISI shud have assasinated AQ Khan... " Wow, I'm astonish by what im reading here. Or perhaps not, because Pakistanis are known to let others down, to use them and backstab them later. Just compare, We let Bhutto be hanged, while Indra is still being mourned by millions, we disgraced AQ Khan while Abdoul Kalam became President of his country. If anything, Pakistanis shud be ashmed of themself. Honestly speaking i hate Pakistanis, but just like AQ khan, I love Pakistan.



+1

I agree. The reason for it is that most people are not loyal to Pakistan. They are loyal to Islam. Thats the problem.
For Islam, they will backstab Pakistan any given day.
Shehz
A.Q. Khan is the disloyal one.
He never misses a chance to highlight how Pakistan was/is involved in nuclear proliferation.
Yet he's still being treated humanely.

His recent statement to Washington Post, about North Korea http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-c...th-korea--bi-12

Pakistan denies transfer of N-material to N.Korea
Wednesday, 30 Dec, 2009

There is absolutely no truth in the purported allegations levelled in an article in Washington Post, said the military spokesman.—Photo by AP National

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan rejected on Tuesday allegations about involvement of the political and military leadership in transfer of nuclear-related material to North Korea by Dr A.Q. Khan in the 1990s.

Jeffery Smith and Joe Warrick levelled the allegations in an article in Washington Post headlined “Pakistani scientists depicts more advanced nuclear programme in North Korea”, and claimed that these were based on ‘a previously unpublicised account’ by Dr Khan, implicating former President General (retd) Pervez Musharraf, the current Chief of Strategic Plans Division General (retd) Khalid Kidwai and other officials.

“Mr Khan said Gen Pervez Musharraf, the chief of the army staff from 1998 to 2007 and president from 2001 to 2008, and ‘his right-hand men’, including Kidwai, knew everything and were controlling incoming and outgoing consignments.

Mr Kidwai heads the group that controls Pakistan’s arsenal, estimated by some US government analysts at more than 100 weapons,” the article said.

Military spokesman Maj-Gen Athar Abbas said there was no state-level connivance as had been alleged in the article.

He said Pakistan had shared all relevant information with countries concerned and the IAEA and the chapter was now closed.

He said that any attempt to reignite a dead issue for possible material gains would only further expose the designs of the anti-Pakistan lobby.

Answering a question about the alleged involvement of Pakistani leadership, he said: “These are dismissed with contempt as a pack of lies, relying on dubious sources that have already been discredited”.

About SPD’s director-general Lt-Gen (retd) Khalid Kidwai, he said that the officer was serving as a lieutenant colonel and brigadier in the Pakistan Army during the 90s, the period of Dr Khan’s proliferation activities.

He held professional tenures in Quetta, Jhelum, Islamabad, Peshawar and Okara before assuming the newly-created post of DG SPD in April 1999.

“The attempt to scandalise his name and bring it into disrepute, besides being absurd is evidently because the SPD investigated and brought Dr Khan’s proliferations activities to a closure.

The strategy to target important personalities of Pakistan’s nuclear programme is quite clear, you can draw your own conclusions out of it,” he said.

He said there was absolutely no truth in the purported allegations made in the report. Such charges had previously appeared in many journalistic pieces and having failed in their campaign to malign the nuclear safety and security regime of Pakistan, these inimical and hostile lobbies have changed their strategy to now target specific personalities in charge of the nuclear programme.

Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit said the assertions and insinuations made in the story were baseless.

“At no point in time were there any authorised transfers of nuclear-related materials”. He said that in fact the so-called A. Q. Khan proliferation network had been effectively dismantled and all relevant information was shared with the IAEA and states concerned.

The government also devised and continues to implement a foolproof safety and security regime for nuclear-related material.

“In short, A.Q. Khan is a closed chapter. There is no point over dramatising the A.Q. Khan related stories which are more a fiction than fact,” the spokesman said.

The Washington Post report quoted Dr Khan as saying that he negotiated the purchase of 10 Nodong missiles and related technology for $150 million after visiting North Korea in 1994 at the request of Benazir Bhutto, then Pakistan’s prime minister, and top army officials.

“As a result of this deal, 10 North Korean experts came to Kahuta and were housed within the complex,” Dr Khan was quoted as having said.
Shehz
Why is the Disloyal Moron writing damaging letter's to the US News Media?
In this letter he is also bringing in China, why should I show any sympathy for him?

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-c...fserving--bi-11

WASHINGTON: The US media published yet another letter from Dr A. Q. Khan on Monday, saying that Pakistan helped North Korea’s nuclear programme with vital machinery, drawings and technical advice for at least six years.

But a US anti-nuclear group -- Institute for Science and International Security -- cautioned that it would be a mistake to accept the scientist’s “self-serving leaks” without proper corroboration.

Citing a previously unpublicised account by Dr Khan, The Washington Post reported on Monday that North Korea might have been enriching uranium on a small scale by 2002, with maybe 3,000 or even more centrifuges.

Last month, the Post published a similar letter by Dr Khan claiming that China had provided weapons-grade uranium, sufficient for making two atomic bombs, to Pakistan in 1982.

In yet another letter published in the US and British media in September, Dr Khan outlined Pakistan’s nuclear cooperation with China, Iran and North Korea, and also mentioned Libya.

Dr Khan is believed to have written these letters to his wife between 2003 and 2004.

One report claimed that Dutch secret agents recovered the letters from Dr Khan’s daughter in 2004.

Although the western media used the information for badgering Pakistan, none of the reports explained why a nuclear scientist would include such sensitive information in a letter to his wife while he had ample opportunities to share it with her at home.
qureshi
QUOTE (Nawabshah @ Nov 17 2009, 10:20 PM) *
Iran has been regional power since biblical times. Iran has neither attacked nor invaded any country this century. I think it is in Pakistan interest to see Iran as a nuclear power. Iran has more PhD's than Pakistan and has more research scientists. Iran has vast energy resources so it did not see benefits of nuclear power during Shah regime. Iran is now threatened by Israel and USA it has the right to protect itself with nuclear weapons. It is some Arab countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia that have no nuclear scientists and oppose Iran with support from illegal Zionist entity. I fully support A Q Khan's views on this issue.


Do you know that Iran have a security agreement with india??In case of war india can use iranian space or land.Nuclear Iran is dangerous for Pakistan
kaz89
^^^Proof?
Pak_Afaz
QUOTE (Shehz @ Jan 1 2010, 06:55 PM) *
A.Q. Khan is the disloyal one.
He never misses a chance to highlight how Pakistan was/is involved in nuclear proliferation.
Yet he's still being treated humanely.

His recent statement to Washington Post, about North Korea http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-c...th-korea--bi-12

Pakistan denies transfer of N-material to N.Korea
Wednesday, 30 Dec, 2009

There is absolutely no truth in the purported allegations levelled in an article in Washington Post, said the military spokesman.—Photo by AP National

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan rejected on Tuesday allegations about involvement of the political and military leadership in transfer of nuclear-related material to North Korea by Dr A.Q. Khan in the 1990s.

Jeffery Smith and Joe Warrick levelled the allegations in an article in Washington Post headlined “Pakistani scientists depicts more advanced nuclear programme in North Korea”, and claimed that these were based on ‘a previously unpublicised account’ by Dr Khan, implicating former President General (retd) Pervez Musharraf, the current Chief of Strategic Plans Division General (retd) Khalid Kidwai and other officials.

“Mr Khan said Gen Pervez Musharraf, the chief of the army staff from 1998 to 2007 and president from 2001 to 2008, and ‘his right-hand men’, including Kidwai, knew everything and were controlling incoming and outgoing consignments.

Mr Kidwai heads the group that controls Pakistan’s arsenal, estimated by some US government analysts at more than 100 weapons,” the article said.

Military spokesman Maj-Gen Athar Abbas said there was no state-level connivance as had been alleged in the article.

He said Pakistan had shared all relevant information with countries concerned and the IAEA and the chapter was now closed.

He said that any attempt to reignite a dead issue for possible material gains would only further expose the designs of the anti-Pakistan lobby.

Answering a question about the alleged involvement of Pakistani leadership, he said: “These are dismissed with contempt as a pack of lies, relying on dubious sources that have already been discredited”.

About SPD’s director-general Lt-Gen (retd) Khalid Kidwai, he said that the officer was serving as a lieutenant colonel and brigadier in the Pakistan Army during the 90s, the period of Dr Khan’s proliferation activities.

He held professional tenures in Quetta, Jhelum, Islamabad, Peshawar and Okara before assuming the newly-created post of DG SPD in April 1999.

“The attempt to scandalise his name and bring it into disrepute, besides being absurd is evidently because the SPD investigated and brought Dr Khan’s proliferations activities to a closure.

The strategy to target important personalities of Pakistan’s nuclear programme is quite clear, you can draw your own conclusions out of it,” he said.

He said there was absolutely no truth in the purported allegations made in the report. Such charges had previously appeared in many journalistic pieces and having failed in their campaign to malign the nuclear safety and security regime of Pakistan, these inimical and hostile lobbies have changed their strategy to now target specific personalities in charge of the nuclear programme.

Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit said the assertions and insinuations made in the story were baseless.

“At no point in time were there any authorised transfers of nuclear-related materials”. He said that in fact the so-called A. Q. Khan proliferation network had been effectively dismantled and all relevant information was shared with the IAEA and states concerned.

The government also devised and continues to implement a foolproof safety and security regime for nuclear-related material.

“In short, A.Q. Khan is a closed chapter. There is no point over dramatising the A.Q. Khan related stories which are more a fiction than fact,” the spokesman said.

The Washington Post report quoted Dr Khan as saying that he negotiated the purchase of 10 Nodong missiles and related technology for $150 million after visiting North Korea in 1994 at the request of Benazir Bhutto, then Pakistan’s prime minister, and top army officials.

“As a result of this deal, 10 North Korean experts came to Kahuta and were housed within the complex,” Dr Khan was quoted as having said.


This guy sacrificed himself not one but twice for his country, the second time being when he took the blame for pakistans proliferation network. And wat did he get in return, disgrace instead of grace, insults instead of praise, prison instead of liberty. His been treated worse than a father abandonated by his children.
must7
This guy sacrificed himself not one but twice for his country, the second time being when he took the blame for pakistans proliferation network. And wat did he get in return, disgrace instead of grace, insults instead of praise, prison instead of liberty. His been treated worse than a father abandonated by his children.

If he was in love with Pakistan so much as you claim than why was he put on a ECL list by Musharaff, who avoided public wrath & claimed otherwise, but still AQ Khan did try to flee out of the country when KRL was audited & him removed !

For a second imagine him in the hands of our enemies ?

He is writing these letters especially we have our advance military hardware delivery dates nearing .. now we know what are enemies is planning to do (sanction), however, is not AQ Khan trying to be a facilitator via these letters ? I mean look at it .. even NS has started to behave much better while in the Opposition vis-a-vis Pakistani nuclear strength. Yeah gone are the days when BB in the opposition would go to Washington & talk about our nuclear asssets & the same would be done by NS when removed & in the opposition during the 90's !
Pak-Eye
QUOTE (diabolo @ Jan 2 2010, 01:41 AM) *
+1

I agree. The reason for it is that most people are not loyal to Pakistan. They are loyal to Islam. Thats the problem.
For Islam, they will backstab Pakistan any given day.


Are Pakistan and Islam two different entities? If yes, please how?

I tought it was 'Pakistan ka matlab kya La ilaha il Allah'
she5 6alal
i dont agree with saudi arabian about our nucleaar program and if he's right then we are moving at a snails pace and lets say if there is an indeginous research going for so long then we should host a fusion reactor or have a project similar to the CERN for r&d purposes. ALLL I AM AFRAID OF ARE THE JEDDAH MUNICIPALITY AND MR.50%
Mohammed
QUOTE (Nawabshah @ Nov 17 2009, 03:20 PM) *
Iran has been regional power since biblical times. Iran has neither attacked nor invaded any country this century. I think it is in Pakistan interest to see Iran as a nuclear power. Iran has more PhD's than Pakistan and has more research scientists. Iran has vast energy resources so it did not see benefits of nuclear power during Shah regime. Iran is now threatened by Israel and USA it has the right to protect itself with nuclear weapons. It is some Arab countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia that have no nuclear scientists and oppose Iran with support from illegal Zionist entity. I fully support A Q Khan's views on this issue.


Take the risk and provide Iran and Arab nations with nuclear technology. And in return, get some sort of unity going where the countries can combine their efforts - money, scientists, engineers, etc. - to create a modernized military exclusively to protect Muslim countries. Good idea eh?
visioninthedark
QUOTE (Mohammed @ Jan 31 2010, 06:58 AM) *
Take the risk and provide Iran and Arab nations with nuclear technology. And in return, get some sort of unity going where the countries can combine their efforts - money, scientists, engineers, etc. - to create a modernized military exclusively to protect Muslim countries. Good idea eh?


the moment they have that - they will be nuking each other ...... do you want to live with that on our collective consiousness?

No ..... its not a game to have developed this technology for Pakistan ...... lots of sacrifices were made by Pakistanis.

Its the fruits of OUR hardwork and persistence.

We should use it to our MAXIMUM advantage ..... in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.


We should give NO OTHER COUNTRY any technology.


If any country needs protection .... they are welcome .... as long as they accept OUR TERMS & CONDITIONS to give them this protection.

Enough of this attitude where everyone is ready to milk Pakistan and share our hard-earned technology with every other tom, dick and harry.


We have something you need .... Good ....... accept our conditions - whatever they may be and in return - and we as your Elder brother will provide you security.
visioninthedark
Ghairat bhi koi cheeze hoti hai ....... yahan salla her aara-gharra mulk ya sahrahi-badshah hummay bilkul choot ki tarhan treat kertain hain ....

aur iddher hum ...... jee huzur .... aapka ka hukm humari sar-aakhon per ..... kehtay kehtay sub kuch unko daynay ka liyay tayaar



Mardangi kahan gayee humari??
Pak-Eye
Iran has every right to build nukes, if she can; its her right like any other nation on earth

But like VTD, I am totally against this idea of 'providing' nuke technology to any of our fellow goons, arabs or persians or whatever; with the current state of affairs, they don't deserve it and we all know the end results

Besides, do check who were in the list of backstabbers during AKQ saga!
ssrgd
QUOTE (diabolo @ Jan 1 2010, 06:41 PM) *
+1

I agree. The reason for it is that most people are not loyal to Pakistan. They are loyal to Islam. Thats the problem.
For Islam, they will backstab Pakistan any given day.



+100

Wanted to say this for a long time...but did not had the balls to do so.
Munir
If Israel has the right to terrorize entire population, steal its properties, kill women and children, use chemical weapons, support terrorism/genocide (Saba and Shatilla), eliminmate opponents in other countries using fake ID's, kill crippled people (Sheikh Yaseen) after making them crippled, have a clandestine nuclear program then I think Iran is just doing nothing. Honestly.
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