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Captain Bribes
NEW DELHI: India may have survived doomsday predictions — once a favourite pastime of the West — of its balkanization but that does not seem to have
deterred the Chinese. On Tuesday, New Delhi took exception to an article on a quasi-official Chinese website, which boasted that the “great Indian federation” was ripe for dismemberment if Beijing tried just a little.

Posted on April 8 on the website iiss.cn (International Institute for Strategic Studies), the article detailed a roadmap for breaking up India. “To split India, China can bring into its fold countries like Pakistan, Nepal and Bhutan, support Ulfa in attaining its goal for Assam’s independence, back aspirations of Indian nationalities like Tamils and Nagas, encourage Bangladesh to give a push to the independence of West Bengal and lastly recover the 90,000 sq km territory in southern Tibet,” the write-up said.

The article claimed that India as a nation never really existed in history. It was held together by “decadent” Hinduism which “encouraged caste and exploitation”.

Hindu Monkey Source

seacad
I like this chinese think tank! BVICTORY.GIF
Jag
QUOTE (Captain Bribes @ Aug 12 2009, 09:39 AM) *
NEW DELHI: India may have survived doomsday predictions — once a favourite pastime of the West — of its balkanization but that does not seem to have
deterred the Chinese. On Tuesday, New Delhi took exception to an article on a quasi-official Chinese website, which boasted that the “great Indian federation” was ripe for dismemberment if Beijing tried just a little.

Posted on April 8 on the website iiss.cn (International Institute for Strategic Studies), the article detailed a roadmap for breaking up India. “To split India, China can bring into its fold countries like Pakistan, Nepal and Bhutan, support Ulfa in attaining its goal for Assam’s independence, back aspirations of Indian nationalities like Tamils and Nagas, encourage Bangladesh to give a push to the independence of West Bengal and lastly recover the 90,000 sq km territory in southern Tibet,” the write-up said.

The article claimed that India as a nation never really existed in history. It was held together by “decadent” Hinduism which “encouraged caste and exploitation”.

Hindu Monkey Source


Sounds like he just came out of HIBERATION and bad dreams......
Mangla
Indians freely preach the same for Pakistan, but when happens to them they get offended.

AL-khalid
QUOTE (Captain Bribes @ Aug 11 2009, 03:39 PM) *
The article claimed that India as a nation never really existed in history. It was held together by “decadent” Hinduism which “encouraged caste and exploitation”.

Hindu Monkey Source



I've been saying it ... India as a nation has NEVER EVER existed in history.

Pakistan has been a naton since 3,300 BC but during that time India had little or no civilization and even if it did it was nothing but small kingdoms.

The current day India has no basis in history, that's a fact.
PakHonour
QUOTE (AL-khalid @ Aug 12 2009, 06:28 AM) *
I've been saying it ... India as a nation has NEVER EVER existed in history.

Pakistan has been a naton since 3,300 BC but during that time India had little or no civilization and even if it did it was nothing but small kingdoms.

The current day India has no basis in history, that's a fact.



They tend to hijack surrounding regions to feel historically important and the sad thing is, many western scholars accept their claims without questioning.

The facts are, The Indus river valley civilisation is entirely within Pakistan, and I am not referring to modern Pakistani borders. Pakistani people have always been based around the Indus river.

Nepal has the same problem when Indians claim Buddha as an "Indian".

Other notable things to mention:

Brahmagupta (Astronomer) was from Multan.
Panini and Pingala, (the "Indians" who taught the world to count, invented Binary and defined Sanskrit) were from Peshawar Valley, Ghandara.

If they are anything, its masters of bullshit.
chengdusudise
i like this paper, Mr Hu jintao should look this paper and do it as soon as possible ,i will donate $100 if Hu decide to start this work
airomerix
W00T.GIF
JANA
QUOTE (chengdusudise @ Aug 13 2009, 09:57 AM) *
i like this paper, Mr Hu jintao should look this paper and do it as soon as possible ,i will donate $100 if Hu decide to start this work


Hu should contact me
fanna4paf
i am also ready for deal $$$
fanna4paf
yar they also issue map of india after breaking. somebody have this
PakHonour
here is a favourite.

Captain Bribes
Chinese report sparks India anger

The Indian foreign ministry has dismissed a suggestion by a Chinese think tank that the country should be broken up into 30 independent states.

It said that the proposal was the view of an individual and did not accord with the official position of China.

The report was written by the China International Institute of Strategic Studies in July.

It argues that a fragmented India would be in China's interests and would also lead to prosperity in the region.

The article was available online until recently but it has now been removed. Even so, it has received extensive coverage in the Indian press.

'Broken up'

The Times of India quoted it as saying that Beijing "should work towards the the break-up of India into 20-30 independent states with the help of friendly countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan.



Indian troops have a long-standing border dispute with China
The article was reportedly written under the pseudonym "Zhan Lue" (Strategy). It argued that if China "takes a little action, the so-called great Indian federation can be broken up".

The Times of India quotes the paper as arguing that China should join forces with "different nationalities" such as Tamil and Kashmiri people so that they can establish independent nation states of their own.

It also reportedly carried other similar proposals for other areas of the country and makes a reference to the disputed north-east Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, which lies on the border with China.

The Indian foreign ministry said that the two countries have a "strategic and co-operative partnership... and the pace of exchanges has gained momentum in recent years".

"Both sides have agreed to continue this momentum, while seeking to resolve outstanding issues, including the boundary question through peaceful dialogue and consultations, and with mutual sensitivity to each other's concerns," the foreign ministry statement said.

"The Chinese side has conveyed to us that in approaching India-China relations, China abides by the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence. One of these principles stresses respect for territorial integrity and sovereignty.

"The article in question appears to be an expression of individual opinion and does not accord with the officially stated position of China on India-China relations conveyed to us on several occasions, including at the highest level... last week."

The publication of the article coincides with the 13th round of India-China border talks, which both sides have termed as positive.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8197428.stm

Hindu cowfukcers crying like vaginas!

Split the Hindu State into 1000 little pieces now!

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Bilal
Just see how they show their real coward face when confronted, when left alone they bragged about containing China, making an asian NATO and what not.
Hellraiser006

Indians dream of dismembering Pakistan on a daily basis. They succeeded in 1971. we should do whatever we can to help the Chinese if they decide to do this. India is also our number 1 threat.



http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...15-8-2009_pg7_4


Chinese essay sparks outcry in India

LAHORE: Indians, particularly in academic circles, are up in arms over an essay by a Chinese writer that asks Beijing to take measures to dismember India into 20 to 30 sovereign states, a report in the Financial Times said on Friday.

“China can dismember the so-called ‘Indian Union’ with one little move!” the essay posted last week on China International Strategy Net said. The website focuses on strategic issues.

The writer claimed that the Indian’s sense of national unity was weak and China could avert the rise of an emerging rival and security threat in the region by supporting separatist forces in India, like those in Assam, to spearhead New Delhi’s collapse.

“There cannot be two suns in the sky,” the essay said. “China and India cannot really deal with each other harmoniously.”

“The article in question appears to be an expression of an individual’s opinion and does not accord with the officially-stated position of China on India-China relations conveyed to us on several occasions, including at the highest level, most recently by State Councillor Dai Bingguo during his visit to India last week,” the Indian Foreign Ministry said in a statement, the Financial Times reported. daily times monitor
The indian*
Wet dreams..
Hellraiser006
QUOTE (The Bhangee @ Aug 15 2009, 04:40 AM) *
Wet dreams..



dont be so sure. the Chinese are clever people. never underestimate your enemy.
The indian*
We are not under-estimating our enemy. I am estimating it on our unity. It's not today that China thought about this, Indians are very well aware that this view point existed after 1959 and this is only today they have actually come out in the open about it because of their preception of their increased strength in economy and military.

India is completely diffrent. Our President, VP, PM and our top 4 cabinet ministers(Finance, Foriegn, Defence and home minister) have diffrent mother tongue, diffrent ethnicity and with our VP, PM and Defence minister belong to diffrent religion. They preception that India will divide that too very easily is laughable.
Dizasta

Currently there is a strangle hold in the making where the west is tightening its grip around Pakistan. This is not good for China, as the enemy is strengthening hindu-land and increasing its presence in Central Asia.

What Russia, China, Pakistan and Iran need to do is strengthen their hold in the region by ousting the Americans from Afghanistan. Russians need to work with the Chinese to bring incentive driven initiatives on the
Central Asian table. Giving these countries economic opportunities would help pulling them toward the SCO.

It would result the weakening of western influence in the region. Counter incirclement is the name of the game, to sqeeze the America out of the region. Which is why Pakistan is so important for the Sino-Russian
alliance. To get Pakistan back, the Sino-Russian alliance needs to find the forces of good within Pakistan and strengthen their hold in Pakistan.

When this is attained, the luciferian puppets like ghaddari (zardari), would flee for their lives as they would be slaughtered. The leadership which replaces the luciferian puppet govt in Pakistan should have Sino-Pakistan
interests as priority. This would go a long way toward the successful dismemberment of hindu-land.

You cannot dismember hindu-land without strengthening Pakistan. Russia should know that its old ally (hindu-land) is now the western world's lap dog. They (Russians) should know that future is with China and its allies.
A western influence free Central Asia (which includes Pakistan and Afghanistan) would allow the Sino-Russian alliance the power to establish a Nato style regional block.

Poltical stabilization in Pakistan is the key to eliminating western influence, dismembering hindu-land and creating an Asian Block which is as powerful as Nato.

Asad
India divided would bring peace to the entire region. Unsurprisingly, India doesn't have good dependable relations with ANY of its neighbors.
The indian*
QUOTE (Asad @ Aug 16 2009, 12:54 PM) *
India divided would bring peace to the entire region. Unsurprisingly, India doesn't have good dependable relations with ANY of its neighbors.


Actually India has great relations with Nepal, Bhutan and maldavies. And with the removal of LTTE from Sri Lanka, India has vastly improved relations Sri Lanka as shown by then President by saying.."IT matters most to me what India thinks".

We are the largest trading partner of Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Burma and maldavies.
PakHonour
QUOTE (The Bhangee @ Aug 16 2009, 02:42 AM) *
Actually India has great relations with Nepal, Bhutan and maldavies. And with the removal of LTTE from Sri Lanka, India has vastly improved relations Sri Lanka as shown by then President by saying.."IT matters most to me what India thinks".

We are the largest trading partner of Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Burma and maldavies.


Bhangee already suffering from memory loss, let me jog your memory. India supported LTTE for decades.

Maldives has officially banned Hindus. Thats not good relations.

With the exception of Burma, the other neighbours are merely tolerating India. On Burma, a murderous regime. Well done on the good relations.
bomberstream
QUOTE (PakHonour @ Aug 16 2009, 07:51 AM) *
Bhangee already suffering from memory loss, let me jog your memory. India supported LTTE for decades.

Maldives has officially banned Hindus. Thats not good relations.

With the exception of Burma, the other neighbours are merely tolerating India. On Burma, a murderous regime. Well done on the good relations.


Pls do not go only by what seems upfront.

All of India's neighbors as named by you have elements that whip up nationalist sentiments for their own political purposes, so relations are delicately handled.

Yet quietly and without fanfare there is so much of interaction and co-operation.

Sri-lanka appreciates india most on jst one point, its silence on the LTTE.
It is not appreciated jst how much India has helped sri lanka diplomatically and by controlling the Indian coastline.After the LTTE committed suicide by murdering rajiv gandhi it lost all sympathy in India.

There were absolutely no supplies to LTTE from the tamil nadu coast since the Indian navy and coast guard had blocked the route for years and this was crucial .It did not allow the LTTE to replenish itself.

Few people know that the largest outside petroleum refiner and distributor in sri lanka is a subsidiary of Indian Oil.As we well know, how important are fuel supplies to a country, and that too a island nation.


http://www.lankaioc.net/about.php

India did nothing to hamper fuel supplies or hamper the war effort of Sri-lanka.

The largest truck manufacturer with over 60% share isa venture by an Indian company ashok leyland with sri-lanka.

http://www.lal.lk/trucks.html

They also supply military trucks to lankan forces.

Were relations not good, wld Indian comppanies be allowed to operate in such important sectors.

Maldives has its own religious compulsions as an islamic state.

BTW IT HAS NOT BANNED any religion, but restricted practices of religions apart from islam.OK its their country, lots of islamic nations like saudi arabia etc do it.
But that does not prevent close relations.
Quietly and carefully, India has co operated with maldives on the security front.
Its is now stationing helicopters in maldives and setting up radar stations in the islands.

http://www.minivannews.com/news_detail.php?id=7086

What else is this but GOOD RELATIONS.

This i think goes way beyond TOLERANCE!!
AS for Nepal and Bangladesh, trade with India is absolutely crucial for them.
Geographically like it or not, India is the closest to them.
Millions of Nepalese work in india and they can come into india WITHOUT passports and work freely.
No one else in the neighbourhood allows that.
Do not go by the shrill cries of politicians and vested lobbies.
Quietely, on the ground, simply by the logic of geography, economics, language and culture, co-operation is immense,close and LONGTERM.
Ababeel
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ChadaFACE
QUOTE (BHANGEEstream @ Aug 16 2009, 01:11 PM) *
What else is this but GOOD RELATIONS.



ahem,no its bad relations trying to sound GOOD
Bhangee sahab,i have to give you credit you can twist words real well.

Lets face it,its true.India has tried to expand its influence on any nation that seems weak enough to accept it (Maldives,Nepal) but not only that the Indian government has thing for exploiting and causing trouble in other countries i.e the support given to the Balochi Separatists and Taliban in Pakistan and the Tamils in Sri Lanka by RAW.Nepal's democracy is the only thing that makes both countries get along but before that-Bad relations,Bangladesh has a separatist group inside called Banga Sena (Banghee Sena LAWL!) which is thought to be funded by India.

India's attitude and policies towards its neighbors show that the "divide and conquer" strategy is something they are more than fond of using.

Pak Dragon
It's suprising how the Hindustani Givernment is insisting that the suggestion is based upon a Chinese individual's opinion and not the state policy of China. They usually insist Chinese are not allowed to practice freedom of speech.

A little bit more mention of Hindustan Occupied Kashmir could had given the green light to Pakistan Army... maybe just not yet.
syed mohsin
great thought and a wonderful idea atleast to make this region peaceful and prosperous..india must be splitted into several small states..
hillman minx
Contrary to what ppl would like to believe, there is no way India can be split.

The bottom line is that it will neither expand nor shrink.

pasha198
china should worry about its own national integrity than to dream of indian split. taiwan is already an independent country armed to teeth to chop down any chinese plans to even touch its soverignty. soon tibet and fujiyang will follow the path.
Caesar
It is only a matter of time when india will be forcefully divided into many, many small states. All of Kashmir will obvioulsy go to Pak. Pak should also occupy most of the Indian Western states or grant them semi-autonomous state. China should occupy all areas adjacent to Tibet and North-East.

Pak China will also established a huge military base on the Southern Tip of divided india so that they can prevent US ships from establishing any links in the area.

Since india has never been a country and is only exists due to barbaric policies of Upper class hindus therefore it will be very easy for different nationalities there to form their own little countries.
pasha198
QUOTE (Caesar @ Dec 30 2009, 05:00 AM) *
It is only a matter of time when india will be forcefully divided into many, many small states. All of Kashmir will obvioulsy go to Pak. Pak should also occupy most of the Indian Western states or grant them semi-autonomous state. China should occupy all areas adjacent to Tibet and North-East.

Pak China will also established a huge military base on the Southern Tip of divided india so that they can prevent US ships from establishing any links in the area.

Since india has never been a country and is only exists due to barbaric policies of Upper class hindus therefore it will be very easy for different nationalities there to form their own little countries.


wow, wake up dude, new year party is yet to begin and you are already high on buzz smile.gif
Caesar
New Year 2010 is when India will start dis-intergrating--so yeah Happy New Year to Everyone!! laugh.gif
hillman minx
QUOTE (Caesar @ Dec 30 2009, 03:30 PM) *
It is only a matter of time when india will be forcefully divided into many, many small states. All of Kashmir will obvioulsy go to Pak. Pak should also occupy most of the Indian Western states or grant them semi-autonomous state. China should occupy all areas adjacent to Tibet and North-East.

Pak China will also established a huge military base on the Southern Tip of divided india so that they can prevent US ships from establishing any links in the area.

Since india has never been a country and is only exists due to barbaric policies of Upper class hindus therefore it will be very easy for different nationalities there to form their own little countries.



Now..now..

Wishful thinking fills the night..

Notice, despite all its ' failings' , India remains in its Original form since 15 Aug 47,
Caesar
Indian Cockraches are freely roaming our forums--Mods please use some insecticides to get rid of these diseased pests!
safdar
QUOTE (hillman minx @ Dec 30 2009, 12:21 PM) *
Now..now..

Wishful thinking fills the night..

Notice, despite all its ' failings' , India remains in its Original form since 15 Aug 47,


There there now!

Looks like wet dreams have been filing you’re nights up.

I think you should re-check you’re map after the sino-Indian war.

Pakistan and china were swapping Indian territories like the lions swapping pieces of cadavers after their butchery.
Asad
QUOTE (The Bhangee @ Aug 16 2009, 12:42 PM) *
Actually India has great relations with Nepal, Bhutan and maldavies. And with the removal of LTTE from Sri Lanka, India has vastly improved relations Sri Lanka as shown by then President by saying.."IT matters most to me what India thinks".

We are the largest trading partner of Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Burma and maldavies.


LOL! Forgetting that LTTE was a manifestation of Indian state sponsored terrorism aimed at destabilizing Srilanka? Typical Indian strategy of India spreading terrorism within its neighbor's territories.
hillman minx
QUOTE (safdar @ Dec 30 2009, 09:48 PM) *
There there now!

Looks like wet dreams have been filing you’re nights up.

I think you should re-check you’re map after the sino-Indian war.

Pakistan and china were swapping Indian territories like the lions swapping pieces of cadavers after their butchery.



Good morning ( & a happy new year too) !!

Where does Pk fit in in 62 ? ..Begani Shhadi mein Abdullah Diwana ??

Yes we took a beating in 62 but that proved to be a blessing in disguise . Ayub;s Op Gibraltar fizzled in 65 , BD was created another 5 1/2 yrs later, a nuke device was exploded in 74. The nation has grown from strength to strength thereafter.

All in all, we are much better now thanx to 62 - our politicians got a well deserved kick. Notice, no indian PM ( of whichever party) changes the Foreign Policy (unlike the U Turns some Generals in the neighborhood made post 9/11).

The indian*
QUOTE (hillman minx @ Dec 31 2009, 05:54 PM) *
Good morning ( & a happy new year too) !!

Where does Pk fit in in 62 ? ..Begani Shhadi mein Abdullah Diwana ??

Yes we took a beating in 62 but that proved to be a blessing in disguise . Ayub;s Op Gibraltar fizzled in 65 , BD was created another 5 1/2 yrs later, a nuke device was exploded in 74. The nation has grown from strength to strength thereafter.

All in all, we are much better now thanx to 62 - our politicians got a well deserved kick. Notice, no indian PM ( of whichever party) changes the Foreign Policy (unlike the U Turns some Generals in the neighborhood made post 9/11).


I also believe in some parts you are right. The defeat forced us to retrospect our own military capabilites. 62' was an eye-opener and something we did need.
safdar
QUOTE (hillman minx @ Dec 31 2009, 12:24 PM) *
Good morning ( & a happy new year too) !!
Where does Pk fit in in 62 ? ..Begani Shhadi mein Abdullah Diwana ??


Well if you put sino-Indian war as a disastrous sohaag raat, then Im keeping Pakistan well out of this debauchery.

QUOTE (hillman minx @ Dec 31 2009, 12:24 PM) *
Yes we took a beating in 62 but that proved to be a blessing in disguise .


Talking like a true "rpae" victim there!

QUOTE (hillman minx @ Dec 31 2009, 12:24 PM) *
All in all, we are much better now thanx to 62 - our politicians got a well deserved kick. Notice, no indian PM ( of whichever party) changes the Foreign Policy (unlike the U Turns some Generals in the neighborhood made post 9/11).

*yawn* Anyway…don’t change the subject and go off topic, you said India remains in its original form since 1945.

I said: no it does not, not after sino Indian war.... Check mate.


oh and happy new year.
hillman minx
QUOTE (safdar @ Dec 31 2009, 08:42 PM) *
Well if you put sino-Indian war as a disastrous sohaag raat, then Im keeping Pakistan well out of this debauchery.



Talking like a true "rpae" victim there!


*yawn* Anyway…don’t change the subject and go off topic, you said India remains in its original form since 1945.

I said: no it does not, not after sino Indian war.... Check mate.


oh and happy new year.


Some day when you grow up .........
platinum786
If we weren't so inept as a nation this could work easily...
safdar
Must Watch: Future Map Of India

Future of india.11 new countries will emerge from india very soon (in 2012)Kashmir, Ajnala, Ferozpur Dist, Gurdaspur Dist, Junaghar , Ahmedabad back to Pakistan Inshallah
hillman minx
Well well..

We have a Nostradamus amongst us !

Nothing will or can change - on the Indian side at least .
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