By our correspondent

ISLAMABAD: The United States and Britain have shared information with Pakistan which they believe amounts to evidence of Pakistanis being involved in the Mumbai terrorist attacks. However, Pakistani intelligence insists that this is not evidence, as much of it would not stand up in court.

This evidence includes a confession by Ajmal Amir Kasab, purportedly of Faridkot, District Okara in Punjab province, which was obtained by Indian officials. Because a confession obtained under duress is not admissible in a trial, Pakistanis argue that this statement cannot be the basis of any proceedings against Kasab or others from Pakistan.
Several telephone intercepts and logs of telephone calls made from the mobile phones of alleged terrorists who were killed in Mumbai have also been shared with the Pakistani authorities.

Telephone numbers of several individuals arrested in Pakistan, including Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, also featured in the telephone call logs and intercepted phone calls. Subsequent investigations have led to the US and Britain concluding that India’s basic allegation that Lakhvi masterminded the Mumbai attack and that Lashkar-e-Taiba was involved is correct.

Pakistan’s demand for evidence now is based on the argument that while shared intelligence can form the basis of actions such as those that have been taken during the last four weeks, it cannot be described as evidence. If Islamabad is to put any Pakistani citizen on trial for the Mumbai attacks, it will require a list of Indian witnesses and their statements as well as all technical material, such as computer drives and mobile phones recovered from the alleged terrorists from Pakistan.

India’s problem is that because of the inconsistencies in Indian public accounts of the Mumbai attacks and the fact that some of the attackers and their local support network could have come from within India, it is against Indian interests at this stage to share the hard evidence or to attempt to reconstruct the events that preceded and followed the Mumbai terrorist attacks.


http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=19228

Thus, what we can conclude from this and what we will be seeing in the future, is that their is no evidence and Indian RAW and other agencies were involved in the attack.

(1) Never will any court accept a confession written by that person, due to him writing it in force under threat, etc....
(2) And I agree that those call logs, can be manipulated very easily to create a plot that never existed. And about Pakistan's last four week claim as well.

And more to add:

If Indians' could always intercept Pakistani fishermen, why couldn't it intercept another foreign boat? Could it be possible that one has never existed! Then one member on PDF also showed clips of the person caught, who had his arm band on different arms, its possible that all that was staged to make it believable where they escaped a train-station few miles away, and still had enough time to re-group and launch an attack on the hotels and other spots so successfully while police could have stopped them dead in their tracks.

No person coming from Pakistan or else-where would know Bombay territory so well, and have fast and accessible transports (aka: claiming those militants took a police vehicle).

This whole thing is a charade, espically when their Anti-terror police chief who was in the midst of an investigation was also killed, and nothing has developed out of that, and the projects (assignments) he was working on.

Why has India not shared any evidence with INTERPOL if they have nothing to hide and mr Pranab Mukherjee has just said recently that India doesnt need to share any evidence with Pakistan it wants Pakistan to act we are already doing that stupid bhangees this whole Mumbai drama just shows that India can never be friend with Pakistan whatever CBMS we have with them it just washes down the drain within matter of minutes I have lost my whole trust with the Indians they will never be able to win my trust back.

Ever trusted helpdesk? Why do you guys think that we should trust this helpdek "superpower"?

And the evidence they are going to share is confession by a gunman who is in Indian custody on remand .

Great evidence just like all those evidences which Indian the dramabaz country has been claiming in the past too.


BTW do you guys know that Mr Karkare the chief of Indian Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) and his companions were killed by a 9mm bullet ?????????????


The weapons with 9mm bullets are only used by Indian law enforcment body .

The terrorist used AK-47 and that for sure doesnt use 9mm bullets.

Just one thing on that. I remember reading an account of surviving police officer from that van, he claimed he pretended to be dead in the back and thats y he survived while terrorist were taking the van on joy ride.

Other thing he said was another of his friend who was also alive was shot and killed by terrorist while the terrorist were driving around.

I had my doubt and thought this surviving officer might be involved.

Thats what i am saying 9mm bullet weapons were used only by Indian Police.

This evidence can alone prove the whole thing was stage managed by India. Why isn't anyone talking about this? Jana please give the source so we can spread the truth around.

Manifestly UK and US are expressing their alliance with india. India is fighting a Bloodless War with Pakistan

Its from the personal letter of an Indian intellectual and writer who has some inside sources as well.

But let me post after due premission.

Yeh reliable source hua koi?

:) Indian agencies know him very well rather they are having some pain due to his blunt discloure of facts about Mumbai attacks.

Besided he is author of few books and known to all .

He was the first person who had disclosed the nexus of Saffron brigade with Mossad and also the role of these fundamentalist Hindu groups along with Mossad and CIA in Mumbai attacks.

Karkare along with his whole team were killed not on the site of the incident, but while on their way. the story is that the mumbai attackers needed a ride, so they killed Karkare and his team and hijacked his vehicle.

now some interesting points:

1) the attackers needed a ride and in all the city they magically crossed paths with Karkare and decided to hijack his vehicle
2) in a city like mumbai there are millions of vehilces. no attacker in his right mind would attack and try to hijack a police vehicle and risking his own life. they could have easily stopped and hijacked a civilian vehicle which would have been easier and less risky.

so its clear that Karkare was the victim of a planned assasination and not some random incident.

Indian claim is that Kasab and his partner killed Karkare, and he's reportedly admitted it. The story goes that after the railway station they went inside a buliding without knowing it was a hospital. They came out and hid behind a tree. They saw the Police vehicle coming and then abushed the vehicle killing Karkare. Then pulled out the bodies of the dead policemen and drove away. Then they hijacked a Skoda car and were later nabbed after a gun fight.

And this was the evidence

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JANG has revealed some interesting facts about the letter handed over to Pakistan by India, allegedly written by Ajmal Amir Kasab (Qasab/Kasav/Ajmal Amin/Mohammad Ajmal).

Indian diplomatic staff in Pakistan distributed copies of the letter to selected journalists, and requested them to ‘try and prove that Ajmal belongs to Pakistan’. Some of these journalists have had close links with Indian missions in Pakistan and abroad.

The letter itself is dated ‘December 19th’ - which is weird considering the Indian media had been reporting about this letter since as early as December 13th. (We have been able to locate this news report from the 15th talking about the letter)

Additionally, the letter (written in Urdu script) contains atleast 3 words which are Hindi.


Sources say there are a few other interesting mistakes in the letter which will be revelaed ‘at the appropriate time’.

Jang also reports that Pakistan plans to take a strong position internationally and discredit Indian claims by revealing the contents of this letter.

Treat every ENDIAN like a piece of sh1t!!! they are worthless and D-grade human beings..Endia is behind all these bombing and suicide attacks which take place in Pakistan,they are using muslims to kill muslims.I have never seen the Pakistani nation this united than ever before we all are soooooo freaking ready to do this.... India attacks, Pak will finish them once and for all.

Why Is the Indian military refusing orders to fight?

I wonder who are the selected journalists tyring to promote Indian propaganda they should be punished and dealt sternly.

The most interesting point about this for me is how the Americans and British are eager to shove India's point of view down Pakistan's throat. These countries are obviously involved in this whole drama like they're involved in most anti-Pakistan and anti-Islam activities around the globe.

Uncover any anti-Islamic activity and you find American, British and Israeli snakes crawling about.

India has a strong lobby in Britain and Israel has a strongest lobby in US(Zionist) India being Jew ally, both lobbies are in progress here

Bro the Bhindians dont have a strong lobby in Britain, Infact the British hate them, I agree however that the Jews run America.

Even that fat pregnant Israeli president Ariel Sharon admitted the Jews run the show in West Jerusalem aka Washington D.C

The Labour Party in Britain has always leaned towards India - just like historically the Democrats in the US have been more pro Indian than the Republicans.

The labour party is a socialist/Marxist influenced party that believes in a "workers of the world unite" attitude, So ofcourse they favour India, The Conservative party although less penetrated by British Pakistanis is an ardent supporter of Pakistan. Margaret Thatcher gave alot of support in economic and military aid, and then continued by John Major.

The monarchy and the elites in the UK support Pakistan, Only the peasant British working class party ie Labour supports India by words alone and not deeds though.

Britain and US are the same countries which produced evidence of wmd's to UN and we know how accurate and precise that info turned out to be, now include randia to this equation and you have speilberg movie with bollywood love songs.

These two countries are responsible for the most evils in this world--if there is a Satan then these two are it!!!!

lol why US and UK? Why not the macho India? Have they lost the nerve already?

Pakistan should outright reject whatever FBI/Scotland Yard offers as "evidence", because they don't have any power in India (atleast on the surface). India needs to face the brunt of the burden and provide evidence to Pakistan and other international bodies, and we'll go from there. Quit hiding behind Uncle Sam and face the music India. Your bluff's been exposed beyond belief; pay the price.

Keeping in mind of all the existing loop holes in the story (clean shave, knowing in & out of the hotel, blockage of CNN from live coverage) & the past practice of India, nobody can take them seriously unless a joint investigation is allowed of the Mumbai attack with Pakistan intelligence fully involved.

Point finale.