So what Musharraf must be thinking right now?

The choices are worded with little bias. Option number two should be more like: Stay on as president and protect the 16 billion dollars from greedy folks.

Stay on, i want to see more thamasha's in the political arena.

Seriously, i want to see them try and depose him and his reaction to it.

Now lets see if UN gets the job to investigate bb murder. Also ppp&ns might get mushy killed.

Very Very interesting situation for pakistan and specially for mr.musharaf!

Don't like the choices, only the first one is common sense. He should stay on and try to work with the new Government (the word fight should not be in the choice).

He has already said that if the politicians did not want to work together peacefully then he would resign.
It's still too early to say, if the PPP (add as many more P's as you like) want to work with Musharraf then he will stay.

He could be thinking how to ray away from cases.

None of the above, Musharraf has given them what they were crying for, ie 'Democracy'. In a democractic process, one would work for the betterment of the country and pursue on its promises to the people of Pakistan, for stability, economic progress and building the infrastructure required to facilitate the people of Pakistan.

If Nawaz Shareef wants to impeach the President of Pakistan, he is falling for the trap which is laid for him. He and himself alone would be seen as a nuisance, hindering the democratic progress of Pakistan. When we're fighting the war on terror, when a politician of Pakistan has been assasinated, when bombs are going off from Parachinar to Rawalpindi. This man has nothing better to do than remove Musharraf and restore 'his' puppet judges, whome he controls and would not be a hinderance in his hold on power?!

If he is truely democratic, if he is a mature indivisual, if he is a true Pakistani at heart, then I would expect that Nawaz Shareef capitalizes this opportunity with Musharraf and bury the hatchet. With a brilliant business mind which he has, with the dynamic economic policies which he can offer (as he tried in 1994). Nawaz Shareef should be looking to work with Musharraf and implement the factor which both of them have in common ..... building Pakistan, not destroying it for personal gains.

Iam sorry to say but most of pakistanies here for more tamasha,well it is not realy a tamasha,iam dead sure the people here who are living in pakistan can feel and see there is no tamasha is going on but sorry to say the pakistanies living abroad there are here for tamasha :):) yup for u people it is a ###### tamasha but in my country we are on the edge of some thing very horrible

You all voted it in, via the democracy you crave all so much.

I don't think that Musharraf should leave just as of yet, this wasn't a presidential election and he might do pretty good together with the comming government as I believe that he has some positve visions for Pakistan

More intresting thing is if they remove the LFO and Musharraf then NRO will also vanish with it and after that .... You know what i mean.

What is more important is how things develop in Pakistan. What happened there and in its neighbor Afghanistan, negatively impacted Muslims across the world due to the global nature of terrorism of al-Q, based in Afghanistan but many of whom later moved to Pakistan after NATO occupation of that country. No doubt the ideology of suicide bombing came from there into Pakistan. Pakistan needs to stabilize, and focus on development, economy for the foreseeable future, look toward proactive solving of conditions that lead to extremism, suicide bombing, not coopt them in democratic arrangement which only serves to mask the problem. The new govt has to address the phenomenon of terrorism and extremism in all ways. Help make the world safer place so we can be proud of being Muslims, and not looked at as terrorists.

It's a pleasure to read your posts again. Haven't noticed you in a while.

I don't think NS is either smart enough nor a gentleman that he will refrain from trying to remove President Musharraf.

How about a fourth option: HE STAYS AND THE WINNING PARTIES ACCEPT HIM!!!!

Man this is Pakistan and Pakistani politicians we are talking about, lets just wait and see. Ganja Sharif and even Aitzaz Ahsan are changing their stance somewhat! Ganja saying ifs and buts and aitzaz ahsan himself is saying now the mechanics of the restoration of judiciary will be different.

Well then ..... for the supreme priority that is Pakistan and Pakistanis, I pray that let there be peace, tranquility, stability, progress, unity, cohesion, transparency, humility, literacy and patriotism that swarms the people of Pakistan. My only wish is that regardless of who comes to power, that he/she and his/her associates work with the people of Pakistan for Pakistan. That we unite and wage a 'Jihad' to eliminate poverty, to wipe out illiteracy, to unite this nation and to protect it from all enemies, both foreign and domestic.

Musharraf should call Real Estate agents or ask his brother or son to get some comfy property in America. Then he should wait for a dark night and take off before he is chased out by mobs.

I'll say it again, just wait and see the true faces of Pakistani politicians!!!

The real coward is the person who uses military force on a judge. The real coward is a person who sends goons to attack TV stations. The real coward is a person who makes peace deals with terrorists.

Musharraf was good until 2002. After that, only US aid and overseas money have kept Pakistan afloat. Now even meat, wheat and sugar are in shortage. This is the truth in the land of Musharraf. He needs to finally fire his yes men and listen to the message from Pakistanis.

you are forgetting neither pppp nor pml-n would like to work under a president who has been used to run the show with a naked sword of 58 2B in his hands which would be hanging over the next govt's head. pppp and pml-n would together impeach him and after ward they would split over the judiciary issue! world is not so good afterall.

well ppp n pmln have pretty much won now, its gonna have to be tamasha cos they arent gonna bring about much else.

I wish something would happen and they would all wake up dead, and we could get some less retarded new people in. I think the counrty is being spoon-fed democracy, the only way it can suceed is if a people have to fight for it. But pakistani's being pakistani's, our contry would probably turn into siera leone or something similar.

Well, i suppose what goes up must come down :(

Weird no bomb blasts, no terrorism, no sucide bombings, no US saying this and that weird how i read today that CIA and US doesnt need permission to oprate on Pakistani soil as soon as the elections weird how there is so calm and peace all of a sudden weird how joe beiden is willing to tripple aid to Pakistan, weird how there is peace and militancy has stopped brings lots of Question into your mind doesnt it.

probably militants learned finally that easiest way to get rid of mushy is to let the elections hold!

or CIA got the results it was working for? A weak Musharraf. Lets see if the bigger strategic game plan Musharraf started that went against americans, will continue after he leaves.

The way I see it, Mushy still has options.

His best bet might be to stay on and test the waters - Mr 10% and Ganja could be quarrelling within months - and do whatever he can within his limited capacity as President.

However, if he resigns or is forced to resign, he can always set up a party of his own and come back into the fray. Without the dead weight of the Q-League's reputation dragging him down, who knows what success he could meet at the next polls...especially if these newly elected 'champions of democracy' prove to be true to their chequered past.

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If he joined some of the existing parties he would probably get more support. PML-Q was/is a massive hinder for him and especially Mr. Shaukat Aziz. Hmm really hope that Shaukat Aziz returns to Pakistani politics and is again made either PM or financiel minister. Yeah dreaming. But imagine, PPP and PML-N together with Musharraf and Aziz. That I think could be awesome, the parties could do the things they are supposed to, Musharraf could controle corruption (even though the chaudries were worse than whatever we will get now) and PPP, PML-N, Musharraf, and Aziz + democracy would be a huge facelift for Pakistan and would definately kick the economy harder in the right direction and yes this would probably not happen :-(

i am sorry to say that but the way i see things happening is mushy would be impeached, he can not thereafter live in pakistan because the moment his secruity gone militants from all over the country would try to kill him----he would have to leave country forever for his own safety, army would help him in that for its own face saving

To say nothing about those treason charges... The army should follow the elected govt of Pakistan; within the limits defined in our constitution... Moshe army ka chacha lagta hay??

Its the Islamic --Republic-- of Pakistan, the army is sworn to uphold...

we,as turkey, ready to accept general musharraf.. he speaks excellent turkish ,he is fan of the besiktas football team.. he graduated from turkish military school.. we are ready to give him everything...
you can try so called democracy fighters if you fail with them again then we can send him to pakistan again....
be sure general musharraf will be in safe hands and happy here...

LOL, brother you make it sound like you're getting the spare room ready for him.

No reason why Musharraf couldn't settle in Turkey I guess...apparently it's like a second home to him. Although of course, I'd be happier to know that he was staying in Pakistan...

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in pakistan, never an ex army COAS has ever been put on trial under treason charges. i agree he should be tried but our judiciary and parliment do not have sufficient strength to take on the army. army won't let it happen. i wish it should happen to keep military away from politics in future. afterall all politicians has charges and many have enjoyed jail. look at javaid hasmi, he was imprisoned for 4 years for saying something minor about army role in politics with out a fair trial.

sorry but reality is either he have to dissolve par or the govt will exile him. better no election! mushy should be there for atleast another 15 years and pakistan is a developed country.

Javed Hashmi was tried for treason... Can you imagine???



I think Moshe should be made an example of... No military general should ever try to take over the country again... Let them remain in the barracks and worry about outside threats (NOT GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS)...

The person who breaks his oath to uphold the constitution of Pakistan should be tried according to the 6th article of the constitution...

We do not keep our armed forces so that they can conquer their own country every 10 years or so...

I cant beleive that the same plunders, looters, and baffons have come to power once again. God bless pakistan and the peace and security of this nation. The silent majority has done its disservice to musharaff and pakistan, the majority of these votes for PPP and PML have come from rural, 70 % of the people have not voted as there was no excitement coz of the same old corrupt face. Remember my words the day musharaff leaves the power corridors the country will plunge into chaos and darkness, no one from either party has statemship to deal with the conspiracies around pakistan, to me they seem to be a part of it

Thats a pretty analysis from someone sitting all the way in the US...

Ask the people in Pakistan about the dis service this one man has done to the nation...

Pakistan suicide blast kills 46

You want a suicide blast to prove that the elections weren't rigged? Are you serious?

This government hasn't even left properly and you're coming out with conspiracy theories already? Typical Pakistani mentality.


You read that in this forum.

The events in question refer to those that occurred on the 29th January - the drone that killed Abu Laith al-Libi. That was still during the interim government and Musharraf.

Wierd how Musharraf didn't say anything when the CIA and US attacked a target on Pakistani soil without permission.


The EU and US were saying from the start that free and fair elections in Pakistan would be rewarded financially.

Wierd how you would fail to accept the good work that Musharraf and the interim government have done in ensuring free and fair elections.

Wierd how you have such a miserably poor attitude and can't face the simple facts: Q-League lost. Simple matter: Q-League lost! Stop trying to be apologetic for the fact that the majority of the population did not want him there.

these same illiterate people of pakistan have given better verdict than a person like you who is sitting in democracy in the USA and wanting army role elsewhere.
if u r a US citizen then campaign for army role in ur own country. u could use mushy argument that for WOT political leaders are not capable and elections should be postponed and country should be run by army command. if not a citizen yet then why not u lived in pak for past 8 yr when mushy regime was in power so u could have experienced which circumstances led illiterate pak public to wipe out mushy regime.

Big words for a man living in UK ... no?

these are rather right words my dear as i do live in a democratic country and speak for democracy in pakistan!

Democracy...beautiful word...too bad the wrong people are made citizens.

Great, so some how ... US isn't a democracy? Again, a mindset of discrediting any voice that dosen't agree with you.



I don't know if you have realized that no one here is against Democracy, but rather disappointed that their party did not win.

And we are disappointed because we saw the looting and plundering of national resources that took place in the 90s under NS and BB. We are afraid that the future may be visit back to the 90s.

Buckle up boys, time to save some cash. You can kiss the 16 billion forex reserves goodbye. Mr. 10% is joining up with Ganja, its like the perfect storm of corruption and incompetence. Allah khair karey.

Why man? Why should God save this country...look at the attitude of all the principle players, they can't even practise the democratic principles they preach on this very forum, God knows how they will treat the average joe in Pakistan. We all know the corrupt elites run the show, so let time take its course so that people manage to become empowered...eventually there will be a populist coup.

u have failed to understand, read it before u post
wat i said means was that if he himself prefere to live in a democratic country, the USA, he should promote the same democratic values for his country fellows. if his country fellows have not chosen an army man made political party or dictatorship then either he should respect their verdict or expose himself to the same circumstances, by joining them in pakistan, to understand fully why they made such decision. AT no point i said that US is an undemocratic country!
I meant that if he does not agree with democracy then he should fight for an army rule in USA where is is living LIKE Prophet SAW SAID: u should choose for ur muslim brother the same thing u would like for urself.
therefore all those who live, enjoy democratic values in foreign countries and do not want to leave democratic countries themselve should not be promoting dictatorship in pakistan as it is hypocrisy ...

Offcourse, but living in one country and advocating how the people of that country choose to handle is also hypocrasy.

You and I are just as much culprits at that.

Pointless poll (no offense to whoever started it). He should obviously stay and see what happens, there may be deals (alliances) already made under the table, you never know. If the majority of parliament asks for his resignation (not formally of course, but hinting) he should step down, but until then he should keep on going.

i have not advocating any thing for them, i have only respected their verdict instead of blaming them for passing a wrong judgement, so u can exclude me from ur list of culprits--

i haven't said that the verdict of the people is wrong.


but my indivisual opinion stays that NS is bad news .... very bad news.

i do not denounce ur personal opinion
u might be right-----although i pray it's not the case as too bad for pak
i only say let democracy run and leave it alone and every institution should be left to do the job it meant to do with out interference

Well this is what US wanted--so it got it!! Courtesy of our present sold out military and civilian leaders and politicians--including the sitting President and COAS--we are in for further destabalisation for a long time to come!!

And you know what--we always talk about this SILENT MAJORITY! Well this silent majority can go and kiss their arses good bye because this Silent Majority tends to stay home and sleep rather than participate and decide for the country!! They really deserve to suffer at the hands of thugs!!

And for Mr President, well I have said countless times that this election will also decided who the real leaders are and who the traitors are--i hope its not him--but I wouldn't hold my breath for it!!