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gnak
the point of the above article is theres an quarantine line setup by the good aliens around earth to prevent the negative aliens from reaching earth

and that this quarantine line consist of three defense lines

first line in and around earth and the moon (mainly smaller ships)

second line in and around mars (1st asteroid belt)

third line in and around the kuiper belt (2nd asteroid belt) with large motherships stationed there



QUOTE(sheldon nidle)
From time to time, we very briefly uncloak some of these Motherships in order to show your secret government that we are still here and do not intend to go away. We know that infrequent sightings of these ships by your astronomers go unreported. They fear reprisal, either by their peers or by those who give them their grants. Your secret government fears these ships the most because they fully realize the capability of such a fleet and the insignificance of any response they could mount. Here, we repeat that we are benevolent and operating under the full supervision of Heaven.

The outermost ring of our vast fleet is, by far, the largest. It contains millions of immensely varied ships, ranging from Motherships the size of large ocean liners to those nearly the size of Neptune or Uranus. These Motherships are simply our final back up, serving as components that will enter the second ring only when necessary. They proclaim to all potential adversaries that Mother Earth and your solar system are clearly experiencing a transformation that no Being, corporeal or non-corporeal in form, can prevent. Within this ring are the main transport stations that lead back to our vast profusion of home-worlds. Here, as well, are to be found the traffic coordinators for this immense fleet of ships. They serve to move all ships between these rings and back into interstellar or intergalactic space.

there are reports of battles going on between the good aliens and the negative aliens trying to breach this quarantine line, also battles when negative aliens and secret government try to leave earth... so the bad aliens already on earth r stuck pending death...
Caesar
I understand but can't the good aliens just not walk in? I mean it is so easy if they can just appear--I am sure majority of people on Earth will finally realise that they are being run by worst possible Evil beings!!! I am just a bit confused.
gnak
more info on marduk and nibiru

background on marduk his mother is a reptilian princess from orion and grandmother was a reptilian queen from orion

Nibiru is the 4th dimensional flagship of the Milky Way Galaxy's Galactic Federation. Many different civilisations have representatives that live aboard it. It is a planet, a battlestar, and a ship, all at the same time. It was the main peacekeeping force in the galaxy until 2000 BC, and is a little over 3 times the size of Earth.

Nibiru's symbol is the 8 pointed star. It is very bright due to the gold dust suspended in its atmosphere. It used to travel in the 5th dimension, but that changed when Marduk, grandson of Anu (the Pleiadean ruler of Nibiru) overthrew his grandfather and took command of the battlestar flagship. As a result of this turn of events, members of the higher councils of the Nibiruan Council decided to limit Nibiru's ability to use stargates. Now Nibiru only has access to stargates in the 4th dimension.

Nibiru remains our trigger for awakening. When it returns to this solar system, uncloaks and shows itself, it will bring about a universal shift in consciousness. Mankind will then wake up to the fact that they are not alone in the universe, and will begin to search for the reason and purpose behind this great planet/ship. [The Vatican's secret service has been following Nibiru's progress via a secret link to the little known second Hubble Telescope for some time now.]

It is then that the ancient knowledge suppressed by the religions of governments in 'order to control the people, will cane to light. Mankind's true identity will be made known to them and they will have the cpportunity to embrace it on a global scale. Introduction by Devin, Head of the 9D Nibiruan Council.

Marduk has chosen to reunite with his estranged father Enki and grandfather Anu. Together they have formed a new set of agreements and the control of Nibiru has been returned to Anu . As Nibiru heads our way, its mission is to ensure the ascension of Earth and its people in keeping with the Prim Directive of noninterference or free will. This means that Anu, as head of the 5D Nibiruan Council, together with Marduk of the 4D Council, the higher Nibiruan councils, and the other Galactic Federation councils, will assist mankind with all the means at their disposal to achieve our goal of Ascension.

Marduk has chosen to integrate, which in this case means accepting the realisation that Earth cannot survive without the humans, and agreeing not to try to take over Earth and destroy the humans in favour of the reptilians. Yet, this does not mean that those under his command in the 4th dimension and the global elite on Earth, agree. He is dedicated to allowing the Polarity Integration Game on Earth to play out without supporting one side over the other . In doing so, he is playing by the rules of the Prime Directive . We of the 9D Council of Elders welcome this beloved one home.
gnak
Alex Collier - Exopolitics Earth Transformation 2008

After 6 years of taking a rest. Alex Collier is back now to continue spreading the information given by the Andromedans to him. This is a conference that took place in Hawaii at Exopolitics Earth Transformation in May 2008. I hope you enjoy this video…

video link
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid...llier&hl=en
gnak
sound a grey alien made courtesy of a dieing nasa scientist now deceased

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPsTvPdyQg

now rumor has it they sound like retarded dolphins this video seems to validate that rumor

again its recommended to dl this vid for youtube has a habbit of taking these videos off...
gnak
worshiping yahweh equates to worshiping the orion group

Gnosticism refers to a diverse, syncretistic religious movement consisting of various belief systems generally united in the teaching that humans are divine souls trapped in a material world

Gnostics, Yahweh, and Cosmic War

(Part V)

There is yet a further chapter to the Orion-Yahweh story. As the Orion group (around 1600 BCE), "found fertile soil in which to plant the seeds of negativity among the same peoples [originally aided by Yahweh 75,000 years ago] who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt", according to Ra, they made a major coup. They actually usurped use of the very name "Yahweh" -- arrogating to themselves all good works of earlier Jewish traditions -- thus luring the Hebrews to a sense of inspirational continuity (albeit falsely). "The [real and now replaced] one known as Yahweh felt a great responsibility to these entities [the Hebrews whom they helped 75,000 years before]. However, the Orion group had been able to impress upon the[se] peoples the name 'Yahweh' as the one responsible for this elitism" (p.210) -- and as no one suspected the new source of information, the old Yahweh was sidelined.

And so (again, according to Ra), the Hebrews continued to worship Yahweh as the Creator-God, not realizing they were in fact now worshipping the Orion group! -- a group committed to human degradation and the institution of total domination over them. To many observers, the continued practice of animal sacrifice, priestly moral dogmatism and hierarchy, and the severe code of rules, regulations and punishments (many still followed by the ultra-orthodox today) were all quite inconsistent with the dictates of a true, loving God. According to this view, such activity merely supported latent Orion hegemony over their misguided followers, exercised through information-projection (so-called revelation) coming from inner (non-physical) planes surrounding the human realm.

Gnostic criticism of Yahweh as a false, jealous god are perfectly consistent with Ra's account of the Orion name-change/usurpation which turned Judaic religious fervor (originally directed towards worship of true divinity) towards the way of self-service and elitist domination of surrounding, heterogeneous groups. Thus, the name "Yahweh" as used in the Old Testament (to the extent it refers to a negative ET source) is indeed a false god, and rightly shouldn't be considered the creator of our world. Those seeking adulation, both human and non-human, tend to always set themselves up to be feared and obeyed.

In accordance with Gnostic views, such a false-Yahweh was but a conglomeration of controlling forces hostile to humanity and to the expression of loving divinity in general. This personification is roughly comparable to the portrayal of the Archons ontologically (as powers and principalities of "darkness") if not cosmologically (acting as warders to established human mind-imprisonment in the 3rd dimensional matrix). Personally, I think the discussion here is far more serious than quaint historico-religious metaphor, which is how academic scholars would normally see it.

Gnostic opinions of Yahweh as the creator of unfortunate, pain-ridden Earth are not, however, confirmed by Ra (whose opinion I share) -- but, again, their sense of the newly established false-Yahweh as an inferior spiritual entity of evil mien is fully supported by Ra's history. The basic Gnostic condemnation of Jewish temple practice and ritual (criticized by Jesus as well) is also backed up by Ra's account. How interesting it is that this channeled source of so-called "New Age" literature produced from 1981-84 sheds such light on documents nearly 2000 years old.

There is a curious passage in the Gospel of Philip that seems to suggest some Gnostics did know of the Yahweh name-change, and perhaps the negative-ET Orion contingent as well. It is a veiled passage to be sure, but is quite provocative in light of what Ra's statements as the metaphysical fit is nearly perfect (bracketed comments added):

"The powers wanted to deceive man, since they saw that he had a kinship with those that are truly good [the original, benevolent-ET Yahweh group]. They took the name of those that are good and gave it to those that are not good [the later, Orion false-Yahweh], so that through the names they might deceive him and bind them to those that are not good... These things they knew, for they wanted to take the free man and make him a slave to them forever" (Robinson, p.133).

The original "kinship" was with the true Confederation entity Yahweh (the "truly good"); its name was then given to the Orion crusaders ("those that are not good"); through this means the Jewish people were fooled and bound to negatively oriented impressing spiritual forces, whose goal was (and remains) perpetual human conflict. If so, it seems Orion has been quite effective in the three millennia since first interception of Judaic divine access -- to the detriment of the Jewish race, evidenced by their ceaseless persecution, as well as all those around them. Whatever the nature of so-called Yahweh, the history of the peoples under his tutelage doesn't reflect too well on the nature of that entity itself.

And the goal of all this? Not necessarily Jewish domination of the world at all, to the contrary of a common strain of conspiracy theory. The ultimate goal is the establishment of Orion elite puppet-groups all around the world to aid the Orion group's spiritual conquest of Earth ("to make him a slave to them forever"), regardless of race, creed or ethnicity, abetted by the operative "holy war" principle of righteous domination. The issue of human subjugation (by other humans, sponsored from above) is far deeper than merely standard anti-Jewish conspiracy, though according to Ra's view, the ancient Hebrews did represent a leading edge by which inroads were made into human collective thought, unbeknownst to them.

All these ideas are supported by the passage from the Gospel of Philip, which leads me to believe at least some Gnostic teachers knew the inner story about the Hebrews, related to Old Testament origins of this particular version of "Yahweh, the wrathful god." That they added elaborate Persian-Kabalistic cosmologies and also had a political stake in criticizing religious orthodoxy, doesn't really weaken their case. We can assume some Gnostics did know about the esoteric cosmo-dynamic intentions bound up with the post-Mosaic Jewish dispensation, and rightly set themselves against and outside it.

They may well have veiled their teachings for their own protection, yet left scattered seeds of truth to convey an essential message to the few initiates who might be present. This is a very common esoteric means of hiding truth from those "without eyes to see," and many esoteric students see just such veiling in certain statements made by Jesus, as well.

As for the original, benevolent Yahweh group's final communication to humanity subsequent to the Orion duplicity, Ra said the following: "the old Yahweh, now unnamed, but meaning "He comes", began to send positively oriented philosophy. This was approximately, in your past, of 3,300 years. Thus, the intense portion of what has become known as Armageddon was joined" (p.210). The Mid East has since then been in near-constant strife, conditioned by the seeds of conflict sown there over three millennia ago. No surprise today all eyes are focused on ancient Mesopotamia (Iraq), the Persian Gulf, and the state of Israel, as trigger points primed to explode the final world war in this cycle of human history.

It is not far fetched to see in this drama the hidden hand of powers of darkness above, and even current Judeo-Christian thinkers often conceive of modern times as "end-times" in similar terms, though without specific focus on Yahweh and negative-ET agents. Such definition of Armageddon -- the "battleground" of positive and negative forces impressing humanity with thoughts of freedom/justice, versus those promoting elitism/strife -- is in accord with the old phrase "War in Heaven" and the axiom, "as above -- so below."

The centrality of the Mid East in global history (as humanity's primal, and perhaps final place of reckoning), is no accident at all, and stems from definite causes and local conditions of regional groups. Perhaps some of the ancient Gnostics knew how important their particular part of the world really was for human destiny -- the navel of the world, the axis upon which young humanity would choose its cosmic orientation.
gnak
taken from an unkown source

has alot of info on the orion group, greys & time travel concepts

interesting part it mentions that the US navy tried to kill the father of the new world order leader

QUOTE
: The Philadelphia Experiment was not an alien operation, as such, but
: what was the set-up was the date, August 12, 1943, because it had to
: be locked to the Phoenix project on August 12, 1983. The date was
: set by alien influence in order to cause a 40-year hole in
: hyperspace through which large numbers of alien craft could enter
: this dimension. It worked, but it didn't last long enough to give
: the aliens the maximum benefit of the scenario. The order for the
: date came from a man in the White House who was directing certain
: aspects of the project.
: This man was one of the K-group and headed what was called the Psi-
: corp. It was an alien intervention. This was scheduled to be a main
: invasion from a different universe.
: How about other types of aliens that were involved?
: Most of the other alien groups around, including the ones that had
: their shipped sucked into hyperspace, were observers of what was
: going on, not participants. Beyond the obvious fact that they were
: observing for themselves, there is insufficient data to determine
: whether they were observing for anyone else.
: What about the alien ship, again, that was trapped underground at
: Montauk?
: I was part of the group that dismantled it. What is involved is that
: you have to find out how everything goes together. You have to read
: their manuals... there were seven occupants of that ship; four of
: them would not talk to us. Eventually, three of them did, and we
: learned their language and deciphered their manuals about the
: construction and maintenance of the ship...
: They weren't Greys?
: No. They were about 6 foot 5 inches tall. They were essentially
: human in appearance. They had dark leathery skin. They had no hair.
: Where they came from we were not sure. We don't even know why they
: were there, except perhaps to observe the test on August 12, 1943.
: When the ship appeared in 1983 underground, we were initially
: concerned as to whether this ship represented some sort of "point
: man" for an invasion of some kind.
: Was there any weaponry aboard that craft?
: Not that I remember. The ship had a lot of strange devices on it. We
: took a lot of stuff apart. We took off part of the control panels,
: and communications equipment. We decided not to touch the main power
: plant because we thought it might blow up if we fooled with it. We
: left the food processing units intact. The ships drive systems were
: removed. A lot of the ship was stripped down right to the shell. It
: was left that way.
: Why would they suspect an invasion?
: Idon't know, except that there have been so many groups over the
: years trying to invade this planet. One wonders why they want to
: bother with this mud ball and its backward technology.
: John Lear suggests that the human race represents a gene pool.
: That is one good possibility. Another one, and I get this from
: sources I can't reveal at this moment, is that they are seeking
: certain rare earth elements they apparently can't find elsewhere.
: Robert Lazar mentioned a book that contained the history of earth
: and that it said that humans were referred to as ..containers for
: souls" and that souls could be traded in something like a barter
: system.
: The aliens are doing it all the time.
: They're trading in souls?
: Yes. They were shuffling us around like we were cattle to them.
: Property. What do you think of that concept as applied to humans?
: Well, it is mentioned that several races consider humans in some
: ways similar to that. Whether it is the bodies or the souls that are
: considered property, I don't know. It appears that they are
: concerned more with the bodies, the genetics, and the capabilities
: of the human mind. The capabilities of the human mind are virtually
: unlimited. That fascinates some species.
: Those aliens that were on that ship. What became of them?
: Out of the seven, four did not talk and three did talk to us. One of
: the group that did not talk to us was evidently the captain of the
: ship. He eventually killed the three that did talk to us. The four
: remaining aliens were put into "deep freeze" by the people who
: were
: running the underground at Montauk. I have no idea what they did
: with the other three bodies.
: What happened to the craft?
: it's still there, as far as I know. It was a gold colored saucer
: about sixty feet in diameter. It had a bulge on both the top and
: bottom.
: In one of Linda Moulton Howe's books they had pictures of types of
: alien writing. Were you ever able to determine the language they
: used?
: The language they were using was apparently that of the Greys. The
: symbol that the Greys use a lot is the same symbol that the
: Trilateral Commission uses.
: How big is the underground at Montauk?
: It's very large. It extends for miles, especially the 5th and 6th
: levels. Almost all of it was constructed in the late 1920's or early
: 1930's. We talked to one of the men who was one of the contractors
: who built it. It was built on government orders right after the
: depression started. It was built in six levels. They covered the top
: over with earth. It's known locally as "the hill". Its a huge
: base.
: There may still be some use of it. Most of it is shut down. The
: power has been on for two years now, single phase 220 volt. The
: elevator used ran on three-phase 440 volts, and that has not been
: turned on, probably because they plugged all main openings and the
: elevator shaft with concrete.
: How many different species of aliens are you aware of?
: Well, the Greys were not part of Montauk. By agreement they never
: went there. There were groups that were part of it, like a group who
: called themselves the Leverons. There were those there from Antares
: that were only observers. They looked like humans. There were
: members of the Orion group there occasionally. The K-group had some
: connection with the place, but I personally never saw any of them
: there. Lastly, there were the inhabitants of that ship that was
: captured. The Orion Confederation includes a lot of groups,
: including the Leverons.
: The Orion group is supposedly at war with a group called the Elohim.
: Would you say that is accurate?
: Yes. This is happening. The Elohim group is a very old race, perhaps
: the oldest in the universe. At least its the oldest we know of.
: Is there any particular species that has the greatest control over
: humans?
: The Orion group. They're the weasels in the background that
: manipulate everybody, including the Greys. The Orion group includes
: the various reptilian species.
: Was the zero-time generator from alien sources?
: No. Tesla created the zero-time generator in the 1920's. It provided
: a very basic time reference which is actually locked to the center
: of our galaxy. That's why they call it a zero time generator.
: Locking equipment to that is the only way you can get some of these
: higher function generators to work.
: The aliens use crystals quite a bit.
: Yes. Crystals can store and modulate enormous amounts of energy.
: There was a crystal in the alien ship that ended up at Montauk that
: was about 18 inches long. Other factions of the alien group appeared
: in one of the side tunnels off the main time tunnel and captured
: several of us, and wouldn't let us go unless one of us went back and
: got that crystal for them. We did. The problem was is that we were
: in the time tunnel too long, because the time references the man I
: was with dissolved, and he began to age at the rate of about a day
: per hour. Within three days he was dead.
: What are some of the ways the government became involved in time
: travel?
: The Navy had the ability to use the time travel technology from
: about 1970 and developed full operational capability in 1973. They
: did do an experiment where they tried to go back and kill the father
: of the man destined to be the head of the new One-World government.
: They did kill his father, but it made no difference. They didn't
: understand why it didn't work. Robert Lazar was voicing the concept
: that time is quantitized or compartmentalized and that you can't
: change what has already happened in terms of the past.
: Is the Navy tied in with the secret government?
: Small elements in the Navy are, but the Navy in general is not.
: So in the 1970's they were against what was going on and tried ways
: to stop it?
: Yes. At Montauk we did succeed in changing the past, so I know it
: can be done, but it takes enormous amounts of power and more than
: just a time machine, but I won't get into that.
: So the person who will be the head of the One World government is
: walking around and has no father?
: Theoretically that is true.
: How could this guy have come into existence?
: That's a very good question. That's another one of the paradoxes of
: time.
: Was this person already in existence before they went back and
: killed his father?
: Yes. They assumed that he would disappear and cease to exist.
: Do you know who this individual is?
: No. Not by name.
: Is the One World government interested in longevity? It seems like
: all these plans are on a long term basis. It would also seem like it
: would take too long before those in control could really reap the
: benefits.
: When you get to the level of the warped mentality of the world
: leaders that are controlled by the Orion group, you don't really
: know what their goals are. They are totally dependent on a specific
: technology, including time machines which are anchored in the 40
: years time rift plus the extensions in the time matrix which goes
: another 20 years. Time machines are based in the technology that had
: its origin here within that time period, and from what I understand
: as of 2003 they will suddenly find that their time machines no
: longer function.
: Why?
: Because they were created on the basis of something which was
: basically artificial - the rift in time. The function is based on
: the rift. Then its back to the drawing boards.
: Have they constructed any concrete plans based on the rift that
: might disappear when the rift does?
: I don't know. I can't speak for the whole government.
: Are any Orion based timetables involved in this?
: Well, the Orions have their own ways of doing things.
: Would they be dependent on this rift?
: No, but the Greys are somewhat dependent on it, having used it to
: get here in large numbers. The Orion group itself is not here in a
: large number.
: They let others do the dirty work for them?
: Yes.
: Do you get any particular feeling what things are like within the
: secret government with respect to the groups of aliens?
: Well, they were panic stricken to get rid of the Greys. I don't know
: if they're that panic stricken any more, because I understand that
: the Orions are essentially gone, except for the mop-up squad, which
: have their own life support systems.
: The general life support for the others was destroyed by another
: alien group in November 1990. They could not exist here without
: electronic support from the ring of satellites they put up there
: ages ago. Almost all of them packed up and left.
: What is the nature of the electronic support?
: They cannot stand the vibrations of this planet. The Greys like it
: because this planet is very much like their own home planet.
: How would all this relate to the idea that their is a planetoid
: coming into this system with a bunch of reptilians on it. Would they
: bring their own electronic life support systems?
: Yes. They can replace the satellites. They may well be back before
: long.
: How do you view that scenario, where the planetoid full of Orion
: reptilians, or Draco, is coming here?
: Well, we monitored the signals coming from the planetoid. They were
: coming in at around 25MHZ with twelve carriers spaced 50KHz apart.
: The Orion group reptilians have twelve chakras, maybe that has
: something to do with it.
: Then this could be the part of the electronic signal that might even
: be representative of their electronic life sustenance matrix?
: Yes.
: It might well be necessary to set up transmitters of our own that
: would interfere with that kind of electromagnetic emanation.
: Yes.
: How about the Orion genetics?
: It's very similar to that of humans. For a long time they were
: hoping to crossbreed. It didn't work properly. That was one of the
: side issues of the Montauk-Phoenix project, to find ways of
: crossbreeding. They never did fully solve the problems.
: So this is where the concept of twelfth density would come in?
: Yes. Probably. What they were hoping to do if they succeeded in
: crossbreeding humans and Orions was a silent invasion where they
: would take over humanity by crossbreeding and eliminate the humans
: they didn't want. At that point, Orion souls would move into the
: crossbred bodies and it would be complete. They would not need
: electronic support systems to survive here, which consists of 12
: satellites.
: So how does this affect the world government plans, now that the
: Orion group is temporarily gone?
: It changes the context of the system that backed up the One-World
: government. They were backed up by and expected support from the
: Orion group. With the Orions out of the picture, they are on their
: own.
: How about the Greys?
: They're running around in circles. They are probably continuing with
: the genetic work and the abductions but they are lacking all
: direction except that which they already had established.
: There was a recent abduction of woman in Seattle on December 3, 1990
: where there were beings that looked human. They told them, however,
: that they weren't really human and allowed them to see their true
: form. It was a variant reptilian species they had never seen before.
: They asked the abductees questions about their experiences with the
: Greys. The woman got the impression that the reptilian humanoids
: thought that the Greys were going to far in their interactions with
: humans and that they were looking into it. Any comment?
: No data on that one.
: Well, since they were looking into Grey excesses in behavior, they
: probably were an offshoot group and not anything to do with the
: Draco.
: They probably were an offshoot group. I have gotten the impression
: that not all the Orion Confederation is evil. There is a group
: within the Orion Confederation that function as sort of overseers
: and they are apparently quite upset about what these Greys are
: doing, but apparently there is not much they have been able to do
: about it. The basic heart of the Orion Confederation that we have
: become familiar with is totally evil and self-centered.
: They basically want to take over the Earth?
: Yes. They want to take Earth because of their desire for the planet
: as a staging base. They also desire the water and the minerals.
: There have only been partial success of their cross breeding
: program. A few hybrids have survived. They essentially look human
: but have Orion genetics within them.
gnak
letters from a Norwegian politician to project camelot

I am a Norwegian politician. I would like to say that difficult things will happen from the year 2008 till the year 2012.

The Norwegian government is building more and more underground bases and bunkers. When asked, they simply say that it is for the protection of the people of Norway. When I enquire when they are due to be finished, they reply “before 2011”.

Israel is also doing the same and many other countries too.

My proof that what I am saying is true is in the photographs I have sent of myself and all the Prime Ministers and ministers I tend to meet and am acquainted with. They know all of this, but they don’t want to alarm the people or create mass panic.

Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.

The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do.

All the sectors and arks are connected with tunnels and have railcars that can take you from one ark to the other. This is so that they can be in contact with each other. Only the large doors separate them so that the sectors are not compromised in any matter.

I am very sad. Often I cry with others that know that so many will learn too late, and then it will all be over for them. The government has been lying to the people from 1983 till now. All the major politicians know this in Norway, but few will say it to the people and the public - because they are afraid in case they too will miss the NOAH 12 railcars that will take them to the ark sites where they will be safe.

If they tell anyone, they are dead for sure. But I don’t care any more about myself. Mankind must survive and the species must survive. People must know this.

All the governments in the world are aware of this and they just say it is going to happen. For those of the people that can save themselves I can only say reach for higher ground and find caves up in the high places where you can have a food storage for at least five years with canned food and water to last for a while. Radiation pills and biosuits are also advisable if your budget allows it.

For the last time I say may God help us all... but God will not help us I know. Only each person individually can make a difference. Wake up, please...!

I could have written to you using another name but I am not afraid of anything any more. When you know certain things, you become invincible and no harm can come to you when you know that the end is soon.

I assure you 100% that things will happen. There are four years to prepare for the endgame. Get weapons, and make survival groups, and a place where you can be safe with food for a time.

Ask me anything and I will answer as much as I know about the Norwegian connection to all this. And just look around: they are building underground bases and bunkers everywhere. Open your eyes, people. Ask the governments what they are building, and they will say “Oh, it’s just storage for food”, and so on. They blind you with all the lies.

The marks of the alien presence are also there, and I often see the Norwegian elite politicians are not what they say they are. It’s like they are controlled in every thought, and what they have to say is just as they are told to do things in such manners. It is clear for me who they are, and who they are not. You can see it in their eyes and in their minds.

Remember that those who are going to be in and around the city areas in 2012 are those that are going to be hit first and die first. Later the army will purge the rest of the survivors and they have a shoot to kill order if there is any resistance to bring them into the camps where every one will get marked with a number and a tag.

I also see that Benazir Bhutto is spoken of on your site. Her death was tragic. I have met Benazir, as you can see. You will also see from the photographs that I have met with a number of other notable politicians and world leaders.

The public will not know what happens till the very end, because the government does not want to create mass panic. Everything will happen quietly and the government will just disappear.

But I say this: don't go quietly into the night. Take precautions to be safe with your family. Come together with others. Work together to find ways to solve all the many problems you will face.

Kind regards

[Name and proof of identity supplied]

From immediate further correspondence, and in response to our specific questions, we can add the following clarifications in our source's own words:

I have been to several underground bases [number given]. We used the railcars to get around. Only a few special people were selected to be shown around. Those that run with the elite know of this.

I have evidence of my claims. I trust my sources 100%, but they are afraid to tell what they know. People are afraid for their lives and that is how it is. I just also want the public to know what the hell is going on. I am not afraid of death or any other thing.

All the elite politicians in Norway know of this. They also know that if they reveal anything they will be removed from office and will be denied access to the different underground bases when the time is up.

The NOAH 12 railcars are transport railcars between the different bases underground. They have a support system of these all around from one base to another. They are mainly used by the military and they control all of them. There are orange triangle symbols in each base and the check-ins are a kind of energy field that everyone has to go through.

The future for my children is all I think of - and that for all the other children growing up in the new world. We have to make a difference for them so that they grow up knowing what their parents did for them, such as giving this information to people like yourselves.

In 2009 the government of FRP will come into power and Siv Jensen will be elected Prime Minister. This is already known. It's important to understand that. The elections are all fake and the same persons and power elite get elected each time in turn. Look up the political history of Norway, and the people that run the country now.

Please share this information with the rest of the internet. When the time comes people will survive because of the information they have learned from the different sites on the net.

I will not get anything but trouble from posting this, and I have no need to mislead anyone. I do this only to expose what is to happen in my country and that maybe some people will survive what is to come.

Kind regards

[Name supplied]

After posting the above, we presented more questions to our source, who replied with the intriguing information which follows.

The paragraphs indented and marked with an asterisk (*) constitute further supplementary information received after we had asked a number of additional clarifying questions.


When I was in the military I was in the [name of service given]. At one point we were given a task to get something out of a base and deliver it to another base.

We were told: "DO NOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS. JUST DO YOUR JOB." Later, when we landed outside the base, we were taken by trucks to outside the base where there were large doors heavily guarded by other military personnel.

Or it seemed like they were military, but they had different suits on them: orange and black suits with the orange suits having a golden triangle on them and the black suits having a green triangle.

* As far as I can remember the triangle went downwards, like a pyramid but facing down and had some weird kind of sign it it. To me it looked like the letter 'E', but the lines were not connected in the 'E' like we write the letter 'E'. It was shaped like the 'E' and in the middle the letter 'E' was pointing inwards... not as in any language I can read or understand, and certainly not in Norwegian.

* The signs were as far as I can remember not on the arms because I saw them clearly... they were at the left side of the black suit just over the chest area and on the caps they had on. The signs were not that big - just as a regular sized patch is, but clear enough to see them.

We went through the large doors. I was thinking what the hell is this, and I felt a bit scared at first. It was like something out of a science fiction movie. This was the first time I was in such a base.

We then came to a 500 meter long tunnel and there were more of these military personnel waiting with guns and transport for us. We were divided up in groups. Some went another way, and I and my group were asked to come with the black suited guards so they could take us to another location. When we came to the end we were asked to put on some masks "for our own protection".

I was thinking for our own protection... aren't we already protected by being inside this huge underground complex and by guards with weapons?

We were then asked to step inside a railcar... and this is what I know of the railcars. They are run by some kind of blue crystal energy, I think, or at least that is how it appeared. Then we sat in the cars and I asked one of the guards "What is this?" He replied, "You don't need to know this, sir."

* At the front where the operator sits there was a box with a window just besides him, and just when before powering up you could see the large purple-blue crystals emitting a purple-bluish light... not blinding you but quite beautiful to watch indeed. I have never ever seen such energy light or crystals anywhere. I was thinking that must be the power source.

* Later on in the base I saw that some people were working on these purple-blue crystals. They were larger than the ones I saw in the railcar - ca. one meter in length and they were lined up one after the other. They were taking some light through them. They were in fact purple-blue and when the light went inside they turned more blue and had a stronger color - the people had white masks on and goggles standing away from them when the light was going inside the crystals. I was about 20 meters from them and we were quickly rushed along when they said "Move on now."

* I also think that the energy fields that we went through before entering the check-in were powered by these crystals, because it was the same kind of light - or so it seemed to me. If I remember more I will let you know.

I could see that there was a tube-like system and the other railcars were just going so fast you just saw a light going by. I think this was a vacuum tube system where there is no drag.

* The railcars were just like the tube itself but inside. The tube was a bit larger. The main car or transport shuttle was I think ca. 12 meters in length and had a pointed shape in front and back and had seating for 10 people with the operator. You could drive them both ways and it was not necessary to turn it around. It was sealed from the side after you go inside and was quite okay... but the speed was too much, and I got sick after the ride.

* There was also some room for some cargo that you could take with you, but not much. There were a lot of these railcars around, as it seemed, and they just went passing by just like a light passes by in a flash. But you don't get to see the other rails either, because it's so fast that you forget to look and rather concentrate on your stomach when inside one of these.

Later on, after I went into politics, I found out what was inside of the rest of the base and what the bases are for, which I have already told you. I know that when this railcar moved - and it moved fast - I had never seen anything like this before. Later when we arrived at the end station I was feeling sick, and the other people that were there also felt the same way. One of the guards said it happens the first time to everyone.

When we came outside we were given goggles and asked to go through a security check. This is where it all gets weird.

There were guards with weapons all over the place... and remember I told you about the energy fields that one has to go through. I was thinking I should not be here at this place, and I was a little scared.

Then we got through this energy field and came to another room. I saw that there was a screen on the side of the wall that said HUMAN - NOT HUMAN - PURE - NOT PURE.

After I saw this I was thinking: Are there 'NOT HUMANS' too ??

* At the energy field check-in there was a screen, which I mentioned before. There was a weird language on the screen. I have never seen this before. Underneath it stood letters that were like the 'E' I told you about - but the only thing I could read was HUMAN - NOT HUMAN - PURE - NOT PURE.

[ Project Camelot note: we are seeking further clarification on this ]

The guards stopped us and told us to change clothes inside another room and come with them. When we had done so they said that it was time to go further down. Again, I was thinking how large is this place? We just came out of a rail system that runs for miles and miles... and then there is more?

We were then taken to a lift system, with seats, that was going to take us down... or, this is what I thought it was going to do. But it went sideways for about three minutes. In this place, time was not known to me because we had no way of telling what the time was. They had taken everything away from us at the check-ins.

* At the lift I remember I saw a letter that look like a headphone - like the hearing phones you have on your head when listening to music. It was just bent like that if you see it from the front side and pointing down.

All I can say is that when our job was done I was thinking that the world is not as it seems to be, and that many things are hidden from the public. It makes me sad and scared.

Later, when I got into politics, I began digging into this because I needed more answers. What I found out was that these bases were Arks for the government and some of the people and military to survive inside. There was a threat from outside that was going to be in the year 2012 and that the human species had to survive.

The 'Planet X' I learned about is from all what I have seen till now. The government knows this and are keeping it from the public. They have been tracking this object for a long time now and were given the first warnings from the USA.

I know that 18 bases exist in Norway. I don't know what many of the dangers are because I am not a scientist. But what I know is that before 2012 the different governments are going to leave for the bases that they have built for the last 40 or 50 years.

If this object goes by, there will be a lot of problems on the surface of the Earth. That is all I know. This is why they go underground.

If such an event comes, they have made sure that five years or more underground is going to be what they need to avoid this. When they know it's safe to surface, they will rebuild again. We were just told that we have to leave before 2012 and that there is something in space that is going to cause much destruction.

* I don't know if there is a threat from the sun itself. I am not so much into the science of things. I am just telling what I have seen and nothing more.

I can say that I have already said too much, but the people are now warned about this...

I have no need to make this up or create mass panic. I just want to tell the public what is to come, and I have done what I can from my side.

There are things in this world that are not known to the public. And there is one thing I can say about all this:

Be ready and have faith in yourself. There is no help in trusting the governments. Trust only yourself.

Kind regards

[Name supplied]
Caesar
My question is if Planet-X is approaching then why millions of ordinary amateur Sky-Gazers cannot detect this huge object via their telescopes approaching Earth?
gnak
QUOTE(Caesar @ Oct 5 2008, 04:11 PM) *
My question is if Planet-X is approaching then why millions of ordinary amateur Sky-Gazers cannot detect this huge object via their telescopes approaching Earth?

there was a video explaining planet x visibility dates posted on youtube i also posted it here however it has since been taken off youtube,

wat the video mentioned is as of February 2008 planet x has moved inside the kuiper belt which is still very far away from earth... note planet x according to wat i read is 4x earth size

another thing is that the angle which planet x is comming at as it can only be seen from the south pole and with a very large telescope

infact theres a secretly built telescope in antarctica just for this purpose



anyway it wont be until 2011 where it will be visible for most ppl with telescopes as the video stated
gnak


first contact announced date of mid October 2008

now more than 3 independent channelers are now comfirming this... holy sh1t

i actually heard of this a while a ago first mentioned by little known channeler goes by the alias of Blossom goodchild... who gives a exact date of 14th October 2008

this ship that will supposedly appear in the skies will be large very large and will not be missed
gnak
^^view above for introduction^^
QUOTE(cosmic awareness)
This Time a Real Possibility of Extraterrestrial First Contact
This Awareness wishes now to speak of a possibility of an extraterrestrial First Contact. This is seen as in the plans, but not necessarily the plans of the ruling parties, the powers that be. This is seen as in the plans of’ the Galactic Federation; that being that federation of alien nations, alien worlds that would seek to guide humanity at this time. It is their intent and purpose to come forth soon, as soon as this year 2008, for the energies are optimum for a First contact, a new beginning, a new way of things in terms of the understanding that mankind is not alone in the universe; that there are others, those who are even more advanced than humankind, who are out there, who have always been out there. Even though this Awareness has not spoken of this in recent years, they are still available, and there is still a battle raging between the Galactic Federation and the Orion Empire.

That the Orion Empire was invited in by the political powers that be at the time no longer holds credence. Many now are calling forth for the governments of the world to come clean. Indeed, it was of a recent nature, an event that occurred in Washington DC, where many who are in positions of authority or power, or were acknowledged recognized leaders, came forth and demanded that the United States government come clean. Ex-military, civilian pilots and others who are and were in positions of power, retired now perhaps, came forth and publicly demanded that the United States divulge the truth around the extraterrestrial contacts and what is really going on.

This is seen as a first step, a preparation in divulging information that has for so long been held in secret and has not been allowed for various reasons to be released. It is seen that more information will be released in the year ahead, preparing humanity for the event to come, for the First Contact with extraterrestrial beings. This is a possibility, but is not yet a guaranteed probability. This Awareness puts this out as that which could very likely happen if there is enough energy behind this, if enough people believe and hold and put out that they wish it to be so. That this will happen is a foregone conclusion. This Awareness says “foregone” because it is indeed within the plans of the advancement of humanity to take its rightful place once again in the Federation of Galactic Nations; that Galactic Federation, and this will come. There is a strong energy available in the year 2008 to make it so then.

This could be a wonderful and marvelous beginning for so many, but it will extremely challenge many who hold traditional fundamental beliefs and faiths.

This too will be part of the new way of things: new thinking, new understanding, new everything.

QUOTE(from blossom goodchild)
TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND ALL PEOPLE OF EARTH ….

We wish it to be understood that on the 14th day of your month of October in the year 2008 a craft of great size shall be visible within your skies. It shall be in the south of your hemisphere and it shall scan over many of your states.
We give to you the name of Alabama.

It has been decided that we shall remain within your atmosphere for the minimum of three of your twenty four hour periods.

During this time there will be much commotion upon your earth plane. Your highest authorities will be intruding into ‘our’ atmospherics that surround our ship. This ‘security field’ is necessary for us, as there shall take place a ‘farce’ from those in your world who shall try to deny that we come in LOVE.

KNOW OF THIS

WE COME TO ASSIST YOUR WORLD.

WE DO NOT COME TO TAKE OVER.

WE DO NOT COME TO DESTRUCT.

WE COME TO GIVE YOU HOPE.

We are beings from other planets, who for many eons of your time have been preparing for these days ahead.

We ask each soul that reads of these words to accept in their heart the Truth that lies within. For in that place there is the knowing that this is to take place.

There shall be many who deny. There shall be many who dismiss.

There shall be those who KNOW of this TRUTH.

Which ever you may be … let this be understood.

IT SHALL TAKE PLACE.

We give you the opportunity to capture on screen this particular ship. There shall be no contact in the form that those of your planet would like. For this initial presentation, we shall simply be presenting our ship to you.

We say to you … That shall certainly be enough to comprehend initially.

All kinds of methods shall be carried out in order to try and penetrate through our security barrier, but they shall be to no avail.

Until we can PROVE to you that we come in LOVE, we will not allow the fullness of our visits to be uncovered.

KNOW OF THIS …

THIS IS THE BEGINNING … NOT THE END.

Your governments and your media will try to disguise us. This will fail. All avenues have been covered by us.

Your media will have no choice but to portray the TRUTH for it shall be there for all to see.

Friends of earth. Do not be afraid. We beseech you to TRUST that we come to bring the downfall of those who have misintentions for the well being of your planet.

If we do not intervene now … as has been planned for eons of your earth time … then we fear it would be too late.

WE ASK YOU TO ACCEPT US IN LOVE.FOR THAT IS WHY WE COME.

The sayings that your world have been aware of via your movie screens etc were not merely make believe. We have been planting and watering seeds of Truth on your planet in preparation for these days.

FOR INDEED

WE COME IN PEACE.

Fill your souls with TRUST in that knowledge.

We are your brothers and sisters from other places.

Our technology is far advanced. There are those in high places of ruling that KNOW full well of this. Therefore they know that there would be little point trying to ‘pretend’ that they need weapons to destroy us.

On this day that we appear, we ask you to listen only to your hearts and NOT to the words of those who shall be in great fear of losing their power.

For too long your world has lived under a cloud that most of you have been unaware of. If you were to KNOW the Truths of what has been hidden from you, you would be appalled and in great disbelief.

It is time for your souls to be allowed to be who they are.

The veil is to be removed.

BE OF JOY.

IT IS A TIME FOR THAT.YOU SHALL KNOW OF THIS AS YOUR HEART ACCEPTS THE TRUE REASON FOR OUR VISIT.

TO BRING YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF LOVE. KNOW THIS.

We choose to leave it at that.

Be vigilant. Keep your eyes to the skies.

Keep LOVE in your heart.

WE … THE FEDERATION OF LIGHT … SIGN OFF, GIVING YOU ENCOURAGEMENT AND HOPE AS WE BEGIN THE ASCENSION INTO THE NEW WORLD.

Each one of you has chosen to be here for this ascension. Choose now whether your human form will …

Accept it through LOVE

Or
.
Reject it through FEAR.

May the Highest aspect of your soul fill you with Light as you move bravely forward.

Gratitude to each one as they assist us in the cause.
gnak
just a few youtube videos describing this event...

"Adamu" through Zingdad also dealing with the october first contact event

part 1
part 2

Magenta Pixie brings forward information from the Collective, Consciousness of Nine on this subject.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lnEi7BgO5uE
PakShaheen
From all the posts of gnak one thing is pretty sure; ENGLISH is a universal language. lol
gnak
First contact or Project Blue Beam an elaborate hoax?

The infamous NASA Blue Beam Project has four different steps in order to implement the new age religion with the antichrist at its head. We must remember that the new age religion is the very foundation for the new world government, without which religion the dictatorship of the new world order is completely impossible. I'll repeat that: Without a universal belief in the new age religion, the success of the new world order will be impossible! That is why the Blue Beam Project is so important to them, but has been so well hidden until now.

The first step concerns the breakdown of all archeological
knowledge. It deals with the setup with artificially created earthquakes at certain precise locations on the planet where, supposedly, new discoveries will finally explain to all people the error of all fundamental religious doctrines. The falsification of this information will be used to make all nations believe that their religious doctrines have been misunderstood for centuries and misinterpreted. Psychological preparations for that first step have already been implemented with the film, "2001: A Space Oddessy;" the StarTrek series, and "Star Wars;" all of which deal with invasions from space and the coming together of all nations to repel the invaders. The last films, "Jurrassic Park," deals with the theories of evolution, and claim God's words are lies.

What is important to understand in the first step is that those earthquakes will hit at different parts of the world where scientific and archeological teachings have indicated that arcane mysteries have been buried. By those types of earthquakes, it will possible for scientists to re-discover those arcane mysteries which will be used to discredit all fundamental religious doctrines. This is the first preparation for the plan for humanity because what they want to do is destroy the beliefs of all Christians and Muslims on the planet. To do that, they need some false "proof" from the far past that will prove to all nations that their religions have all been misinterpreted and misunderstood.

The second step involves a gigantic "space show" with three-dimensional optical holograms and sounds, laser projection of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to predominating regional national religious faith. This new "god's" voice will be speaking in all languages. In order to understand that, we must study various secret services' research done in the last 25 years.

The Soviet's have perfected an advanced computer, even
exported them, and fed them with the minute physio-psycological
particulars based on their studies of the anatomy and electro-mechanical composition of the human body, and the studies of the electrical, chemical and biological properties of the human brain.

These computers were fed, as well, with the languages of all human cultures and their meanings. The dialects of all cultures have been fed into the computers from satellite transmissions. The Soviets began to feed the computers with objective programs like the ones of the new messiah. It also seems that the Soviets - the new world order people - have resorted to suicidal methods with the human society by allocating electronic wavelengths for every person and every society and culture to induce suicidal thoughts if the person doesn't comply with the dictates of the new world order.

There are two different aspects of step two. The first
is the "space show." Where does the space show come from? The space show, the holographic images will be used in a simulation of the ending during which all nations will be shown scenes which will be the fulfillment of that which they desire to verify the prophecies and adversary events. These will be projected from satellites onto the sodium layer about 60 miles above the earth. We see tests every once in a while, but they are called UFOs and "flying saucers." The result of
these deliberately staged events will be to show the world the new "christ," the new messiah, Matreya, for the immediate implementation of the new world religion. Enough truth will be foisted upon an unsuspecting world to hook them into the lie. "Even the most learned will be deceived." The project has perfected the ability for some device to lift up an enormous number of people, as in a rapture, and whisk the entire group into a never-never land. We see tests of this device in the abduction of humans by those mysterious little alien greys. who snatch people out of their beds and through windows into waiting "mother ships."

The calculated resistance to the universal religion and the new
messiah and the ensuing holy wars will result in the loss of human life on a scale never imagine before in all of human history. The Blue Beam Project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old, as major an event as that which occurred 2,000 years ago. In principle, it will make use of the skies as a movie screen (on the sodium layer at about 60 miles) as space-based laser-generating satellites project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet in every language and dialect according to the region. It deals with the religious aspect of the new world order and is deception and seduction on a massive scale. Computers will coordinate the satellites and software already in place will run the sky show.

Holographic images are based on nearly identical signals combining to produce an image or hologram with deep perspective which is equally applicable to acoustic ELF, VLF and LF waves and optical phenomena. Specifically, the show will consist of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to the specific national, regional religion. Not a single area will be excluded. With computer animation and sounds appearing to emanate from the very depths of space, astonished ardent followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned messaihs in convincing lifelike reality. Then the projections of Jesus, Mohammed, Buddah, Krishna, etc., will merge into one after correct explanations of the mysteries and revelations will have been disclosed. This one god will, in fact, be the antichrist, who will explain that the various scriptures have been misunderstood and misinterpreted, and that the religions of old are responsible for turning brother against brother, and nation against nation, therefore old religions must be abolished to make way for the new age new world religion, representing the one god antichrist they see before them.


Naturally, this superbly staged falsification will result in dissolved social and religious disorder on a grand scale, each nation blaming the other for the deception, setting loose millions of programmed religious fanatics through demonic possession on a scale never witnessed before.


In addition, this event will occur at a time of profound worldwide political anarchy and general tumult created by some worldwide catastrophe. The United Nation even now plans to use Beethovan's "Song of Joy" as the anthem for the introduction for the new age one world religion. If we put this space show in parallel with the star wars program we get this: combination of electromagnetic radiation and hypnosis have also been the subject of intensive research. In 1974, for instance, researcher G. F. Shapits, said of one of the research
proposals that, "...in this investigation it will be shown that the spoken words of the hypnotist may also be converted by electromagnetic energy directly and to the subconscious part of the human brain without employing any mechanical device for receiving or transcording the message, and without the person exposed to such influence having a chance to control the information input consciously. It may be expected
that the rationized behavior will be considered to have been taken out of their own free will." Anyone investigating so-called "channelling" phenomena right now would be wise to take this area of research into consideration. It will be noted that those who think of themselves as "channellers" has escalated rapidly since this type of research was conducted. It is uncanny how similar their messages are, despite which
entity they claim to be their source of divine guidance. It would suggest any individual considering the credibility of channelled information should be discerning and critically evaluate where the message they are receiving originates, and if the messages are specifically beneficially to the new world order. The Sydney Morning newspaper published an item on March 21st, 1983 which announced that the Soviets were invading the human mind, the article having been submitted to the foreign editor by Doctor Nathan Abnuengy, assistant professor in the faculty of agriculture in Asia. It is worth quoting the article at length even though his grammer is a little old. This article relates to the Soviets who created the supercomputer we were discussing earlier and which is really important because these types of computers can be run through satellites and through space. The computers were fed with all the different languages and their meanings, the dialect of all peoples were fed to the computers with objective programs. But we are no longer talking about the Soviets; we are talking about the United Nations, the minions of the new world order, who are feeding the computers with the necessary information. The editor of the column in which the article appeared even states that the piece made points too important to ignore.


I think it is possible that the persons who have created this mega-mind control program could sell the software to an organization and not be aware that the client might use the program and data to enslave all of humankind. Just imagine how far they have advanced since that article was published! The advancement of techniques propel us toward the third
step in the Blue Beam Project that goes along with the telepathic and electronically augmented two-way communication where ELF, VLF and LF waves will reach each person from within his or her own mind, convincing each of them that their own god is speaking to them from the very depths of their own soul. Such rays from satellites are fed from the memories of computers that have stored massive data about every human on earth, and their languages. The rays will then interlace with their natural thinking to form what we call diffuse artifical thought. That kind of technology goes into the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s research where the human brain has been compared to a computer. Information is fed in, processed, integrated and then a response is formulated and acted upon.


Mind controllers manipulate information the same way a computer for grammer manipulates information. In January 1991, the University of Arizona hosted a conference entitled, "The NATO Advanced Research Workshop on Current and Emergent Phenomena and Biomolecular Systems."


What does that mean exactly? It means this: We refer to one paper that was delivered at the conference which stands out for its different attitude towards the development under discussion at that time. It was, in effect, a protest and chilling warning to the attending scientists about the potential abuse of their research findings.

Their findings, of course, stated that the United States has already developed communications equipment which can make the blind see, the deaf hear and the lame walk. It can relieve the terminally ill from pain without the use of drugs or surgery. I'm not talking about science fiction. A man might retain the use of all his faculties right up to the moment of his death. This communications equipment depends upon a completely new way of looking at the human brain and neuro-muscular systems and radiation pulses at ultra-low frequencies. Some of this equipment is now operational within the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and Federal Bureau of Investigation. It will never be used to make the blind see, the deaf hear and the lame walk because it is central to the domestic political agenda and foreign policy of George Bush and his puppet masters of the new world order.

Domestically, the new communications equipment is being used to torture and murder person who match profiles imagined to be able to screen a given population for terrorists; to torture and murder citizens who belong to organizations which promote tolerance and peace and development in Central America; to torture and murder citizens who belong to organizations who oppose the development and deployment of nuclear weapons, and to create a race of slave cult automatons, or what is popularly called "the Manchurian Candidates."

Overseas experimentation is taking place on hostages held by the United States and Canada, Great Britian, Australia, Germany, Finland and France.

Additionally, there has been a long series of bizarre suicides among British computer scientists, all of whom have had some connection to the United States Navy. What it is possible to ask before such a psychology of terror is this: would any government, corporation or psychiatrist wilfully promote such horror today? The answer is quite obviously, "Yes." Government agencies and the corporations that work with them toward new world order are prepared to promote anything that will help them achieve their objective of total social control. As for the question of why: For one thing, if you terrify the public and make them fear for their safety, they will allow you to implement draconian law enforcement practice, disarm them and keep extensive records on them, and they only have to tell you that it is all to protect you, of course.

Secondly, it promotes the decay of the present democratic forms of political systems, and leads societies to search for alternative methods of political ideology. Of course, the alternative has already been planned. It is called the new world order and it will not have your safety or interests at heart. As George Bush said: "Read my lips." Fear has always been used by powerful elite to control and subjugate the masses. The old maxim, divide and conquer is being played out to the limit worldwide to ensure that everyone is frightened for their personal safety, and to be suspicious of everyone else. This, too, is mind control.

To go further in regard to the new technology which is at the base of the NASA Blue Beam Project, we have to consider this statement by psychologist James V. McConnell which was published in a 1970s issue of Psychology Today. He said, "The day has come when we can combine sensory deprivation with drug hypnosis and astute manipulation of reward and punishment to gain almost absolute control over an individual's behavior. It should then be possible to achieve a very rapid and highly effective type of positive brainwashing that would allow us to make dramatic changes in a person's behavior and personality."

Now, when we talked before about that kind of ray and the telpathic and electronically augmented communication, the kind of rays that are fed from the memories of computers which store massive data about humans, human language and dialects, and we said that the people will be reached from within, making each person to believe that his own god is speaking directly from within his or her own soul, we refer to that kind of technology and that kind of thinking that same psychologist was espousing, that is: we should be trained from birth that we should all do what society wants us to do rather than what we want to do for ourselves; that because they have the technology to do it, no one should now be allowed to have their own individual personality.

This statement and these ideas are important because it is the basic teaching of the United Nations that no one owns his or her own personality. And that same psycologist claims that no one has any say-so about the kind of personality they acquire and there is no reason to believe you have the right to refuse to acquire a new personality if your old personality is considered "antisocial." What is important in this declaration is that the new world order will be set up over the
current system, meaning the old way of thinking and behavior and religion will be considered the "old" and incorrect way of thinking and that they can change it at one of the eradication camps of the United Nations to make sure that anyone with this "antisocial" behavior will be disposed of quickly so that other modified individuals will be able to fulfill the needs and agendas of the new world order without being distracted by the truth. Could this be the greatest mind control project ever? The NASA Blue Beam Project is the prime directive for the new world order's absolute control over the populations of the entire earth.

I would suggest you investigate this information carefully before dismissing it as fanatic lunacy. If we go further in the different reports we have presented, we find that the mind control operations and technology include a transmitter that broadcasts at the same frequency as the human nervous system, which transmitter is manufactured by the Loral Electro-Optical System in Pasadena, California. Loral, a major defense contractor, has previously conducted research on directed energy weapons for Lt. Gen. Leonard Perez of the U. S. Airforce who was searching for a weapon that could implant messages into the minds of the enemy while urging his own troops on to superhuman deeds of valor!

The device employs electromagnetic radiation of gigahertz frequencies pulsed at extremely low frequencies (ELF). It is used to torture people both physically and mentally from a distance. Weapons of this type are thought to have been used against a British woman protesting the presence of American Cruise Missiles at Greenham Common Airbase during
the 1970s.

This weapon can be used to induce total sensory deprevation
by broadcasting signals into the auditory nerve at such high power that it blocks the ability of the individual to hear themselves think! The process employed by such ELF technology are described in various U. S. Defense Department publications, including one entitled, " The Electromagnetic Spectrum and Low Intensity Conflict," by Captain Paul E. Tyler, Medical Commandant, U. S. Navy, which is included in a collection entitled, "Low Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology Edict," by Lt. Col David G. Dean, USAF. The paper was delivered in 1984 and the collection published 1986 by Air University Press, Maxwell Airforce Base, Alabama.

Another pulse microwave device can deliver audible signals directly to an individual while remaining undetectable to anyone else. The technology is very simple and can be built by using an ordinary police radar gun. The microwave beam generated by the device is modulated at audio frequencies and can broadcast messages directly into the brain. Now here we come to the NASA Blue Beam Project. The broadcasting of subliminal two-way communication and images from the
depths of space correspond directly to that kind of technology.

In his book, "The Body Electric," Nobel Prize nominee Robert Baker describes a series of experiments conducted in the early 1960s by Allen Frie where this phenomena was demonstrated as well as later experiments conducted in 1973 at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research by Dr. Joseph C. Sharp who personally underwent tests in which he proved he could hear
and understand messages delivered to him in an echo-free isolation chamber via a pulsed microwave audiogram which is an analog of the word's sound vibration beamed into his brain. Baker then goes on to state, "Such a device has obvious application for covert operations designed to drive a target crazy with unknown voices or deliver undetectable instructions to a programmed assassin." Now figure out when we hear that voice from the new world messiah who would be speaking from space to all of the sane people of the earth who might give instructions to zealots and religious fanatics, we would see hysteria and social mayhem on a scale never witnessed before on this planet. No police forces in the world, even as a combined front, could deal with the disorder that will follow! A 1978 book entitled, "Microwave Auditory Effect and Application," by James C. Lynn describes how audible voices can be broadcast directly into the brain. This technology could actually allow the blind to see and the deaf to hear. Instead, it has been turned into a weapon to enslave the world. Allen Frie also reports that he could speed up, slow down or stop the hearts of isolated frogs by synchronizing the pulsed rate of a microwave beam with the heart itself.

According to Robert Baker, similar results have been obtained using live frogs, which shows that it is technically feasible to produce heart attacks with rays designed to penetrate the human chest. EDITOR'S NOTE: Both the author of this report and his colleague died of "heart attacks" only days apart one in Canada and the other while visiting Ireland. Neither had a history of heart problems. I should mention also that Dr. Baker does NOT participate in such research. It has been demonstrated that focused ultra high frequency UHF electromagnetic energy beams can be used to induce considerable agitation and muscular activity or induce muscular weakness and lethargy. Microwaves can also be used to burn human skin and aid the effect of drugs, bacteria and poisons or affect the function of the entire brain. These effects were all revealed at length by the CIA on September 21, 1977 in testimony before the Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research. Dr. Sidney Gottlieb.

Who directed the MK-Ultra program at that time was forced to discussed the scope of the CIA's research to find techniques of activation of the human organism by remote electronic means. So this is something that exists right now, that has been pursued to its highest degree, that can be used from space to reach any person, anyplace on the face of the earth. If we go deeper in that process of mind control over the people we find that the equipment and technology has been used to influence
politics in a much more direct fashion. Michael Dukakis, the Democrat candidate running against George Bush in the 1988 election was targeted with microwave technology in order to impede his public speaking performance once the the public opinion polls showed he posed a serious threat to Bush's election prospects. He also claims that the equipment
was used against Kitty Dukakis and drove her to the brink of suicide.

In the Disneyland world of U. S. politics, a presidential candidate with problems such as these, would obviously lose their race to the White House. In the December 1980 edition of the U. S. Army Journal, called the Military Review, a column by Lt. Col John B. Alexander, entitled, "The New Mental Battlefield: Beam Me Up, Spock," provides further insight into the technical capabilities at the disposal of the
comptroller. He writes, "Several examples will demonstrate areas in which progress have been made. The transference of energy from one organism to another; the ability to heal or cause disease to be transmitted over a distance, thus inducing illness or death from no apparent cause; telepathic behavior modification which includes the ability to induce hypnotic states up to a distance of 1,000 kilometers have been reported. The use of telepathic hypnosis also holds great potential. This capability could allow agents to be deeply planted with
no conscious knowledge of their programming. In movie terms, the Manchurian Candidate lives, and does not even require a telephone call.


"Other mind-to-mind induction techniques are being considered. If perfected this capability could allow the direct transferrence of thought via telepathy from one mind or group of minds to a select target audience. The unique factor is that the recipient will not be aware that thought has been implanted from an external source. He or she will believe the thoughts are original." This is exactly what we were talking about. The third step in the NASA Blue Beam Project is called the Telepathic Electronic Two-Way Communication. Lt. Col Alexander's article continues: "If it is possible to feed artificial thought into the multigenic field via satellite, the mind control of the entire planet is now possible.

An individual's only resistance would be to constantly question the motivation behind their thoughts and not act upon thoughts which they consider to be outside their own ideological, religious and moral boundaries." Once again, it is wise to consider how television, advertising, modern education and various types of social pressure are used to manipulate those boundaries. It has been reported by Lt. Col Alexander who said, in the summary of his Military Review article, "The information on those kinds of technologies presented here would be considered by some to be ridiculous since it does not conform to their view of reality. But some people still believe the world is flat."

Now, this means a lot, because if people do not believe this kind of technology is possible, or that it is science fiction, those people put themselves in great jeopardy, because on the night when those thousand stars will shine from space, during the night when the new messiah will be presented to the world, they will not be prepared and will have no time to prepare to save themselves against that kind of technology. They don't believe and they won't take time to prepare.


in the end of the day use ur discernment...and wait and see

what project blue beam is capable of http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RLBEf1BJLPg
Siddharth
its already 10th of Oct. where is that big ship :P.

if that ship don't show up in 4 days, i am gonna kick that blossom goodchild's butt.
gnak
QUOTE(Siddharth @ Oct 10 2008, 10:57 PM) *
its already 10th of Oct. where is that big ship :P.

if that ship don't show up in 4 days, i am gonna kick that blossom goodchild's butt.

look im sure something will happen around mid october... whether its really first contact or project blue beam, i wish for first contact but as of currently im thinking that theres a chance its project blue beam and i have my reasons to believe this

first contact is only being promoted by new comers channelers, no veteran channelers or respective ppl in the ufo community are confirming this... goes as far as one veteran channeler denounce it as a hoax.

i also notice that the economic crises going on atm... whats odd is this crises was prophecised for late 2006 early 2007 it seems to have fallen behind schedule...

wat im trying to say that if this is a fake government attempt to deceive the world using satelites to project holographic ufos then... we might be going down the path of the prophecies
Caesar
The problem I have is with the word "Anti-Christ"--when every religion seems to be fake what difference does an anti-christ or Pro-Christ make?

But yeah, it is very unfortunate that this planet has been held hostage by those who revolve around Christ and this planet will ultimately be destroyed thanks to Christ.
Caesar
Well October 14th has come and gone----NOHING!!!!
Siddharth
QUOTE(Caesar @ Oct 15 2008, 12:14 PM) *
Well October 14th has come and gone----NOHING!!!!


ahh... i watched Indiana Jones yesterday to celebrate 14th Oct and prepare welcome party for aliens, lol.

but alas, like always they dumped us :(
gnak
QUOTE(Caesar @ Oct 15 2008, 05:14 PM) *
Well October 14th has come and gone----NOHING!!!!

well if u read my oct 11th post i clearly said that this event might not happen as no veterans in the ufo community is confirming this event... as the 2 veteran channelers go as far as denying it as a hoax.

the only reason i posted it here was "cosmic awareness" forget the name of the person who channels this being... seems to endorse this idea, however it did not mention a date simply saying real possibility in 2008.

now validity of any channeled info from cosmic awareness come into question...

however this no show of aliens also made me aware of project blue beam... so if aliens do show up in the future it might be a spectacular holographics show done by the government.
gnak
"For 20 years the Interpreter was Paul Shockley who lived in Oregon. In March, 1997, Paul announced he was no longer giving readings for C.A.C. A few weeks later "Grace" appeared as the new channel for Cosmic Awareness."

so i answered my own question. Paul Shockley the original channeler of cosmic awareness is now dead the new channeler known as "Grace" is not creditable at all either he/she is making this up or watever he/she is channeling its not the original cosmic awareness
gnak
nows heres something to look forward to

on the brink of world war 3 (all-out nuclear war) the good aliens will save us from self destruction and very very creditable source tibetan remote viewing monks

Remote viewing is nothing new in Tibetan monasteries. For thousands of years remote viewing in the middle of other spiritual activities have dominated Tibetan culture. What some Indian tourists came to learn from a few Tibetan monasteries under the current Chinese rule is extremely alarming and fascinating.

According to these tourists remote viewers are seeing world powers in the course of self-destruction. They also see that the world will not be destroyed. Between now and 2012 the world super powers will continue to engage in regional wars. Terrorism and covert war will be the main problem. In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other.

Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress.

In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war.

And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time.

Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.

When asked about recent UFO sightings in India and China, the monks smiled and said the divine powers are watching us all. Mankind cannot and will not be allowed to alter the future to that great extent.


Every human being though their current acts in life called “Karma” can alter the future lives to some extent, but changing the destiny in that large extent will not be allowed to that great an extent.

Monks also mentioned that beyond 2012 our current civilization would understand that the final frontier of science and technology is in area of spirituality and not material physics and chemistry. Beyond 2012, out technologies will take a different direction. People will learn the essence of spirituality, the relation between body and the soul, the reincarnation and the fact we are connected with each other are all part of “God”.

In India and China UFO sightings have increased in many folds. Many say the Chinese and Indian Governments are being contacted by the Extra Terrestrials.

In recent days most UFO activities have been seen in those countries who have indigenously developed Nuke capabilities.

When asked if these extra-terrestrials will show up in reality in 2012, the answers remote viewers are giving is: they will reveal themselves in such a way that none of us scared. They will reveal themselves only if they have to. As our science and technology progresses, we are destined to see them and interact with them any way.

According to the remote viewers, our earth is blessed and is being saved continuously from all kinds of hazards all the time that we are not even aware of. As our technologies progress we will realize how external forces saved us.
Caesar
I don't know but it is hard for me to believe this. So in 2012 we will not only have a nuclear war only to be inervened by aliens but also the 12th Planet approaching and causing havoc on Earth!!! Which is true--which is not?
gnak
QUOTE(Caesar @ Oct 17 2008, 08:44 AM) *
I don't know but it is hard for me to believe this. So in 2012 we will not only have a nuclear war only to be inervened by aliens but also the 12th Planet approaching and causing havoc on Earth!!! Which is true--which is not?

the world is a lot complicated than what it looks like... i dont know the entire picture only a very few ppl would know the entire picture.

point yes theres many ppl saying planet x is comming and going to cause havoc on earth. but think about it if these ppl say planet x cause pole shift when was the time a last pole shift occured... answer is 780000 years ago

so these ppl say planet x has an ecliptical orbit lasting 3600 how come it didnt cause a pole shift the past 200+ times it crossed paths with earth? obviously these ppl dont do enough studies to back up their lies.

truth is alot stranger than fiction apparently planet x is a war planet that currently entered an orbit around our sun it can also move around on its own free will dunno how but they say it does.

planet x may come close enough to for it to visible... but whether it comes close enough that it causes cataclysmic changes on earth who knows

if most ppl on earth ascend to fifth density before 2012 the effects of planet x would not be felt for planet x is 4th dimensional, higher dimensions can not get effected by lower dimensions

another important thing is that as of 1999 marduk is no longer in command (maybe dead) of nibiru means the reptilians no longer rule nibiru.
gnak
seems everyone talking about ascension but most ppl dont know wat it means

here are some excerpts of wat ascension actually is...

QUOTE(from Sandy Stevenson)
Ascension is merely a stage in this evolutionary process and involves reaching a place where one is ready to raise oneself to the frequency of Light, whereby the fifth dimension becomes accessible and visible. It is not something for the ‘chosen few’, but is available to every being in the entire universe. It is obtained on an individual basis, within the time frame that being chooses to experience his or her growth. It is inevitably gained by everyone at some point or another.

Those attaining Ascension in past times, have allowed the physical body to ‘die’ and having increased the vibration of the subtle bodies, raised themselves into the fifth dimension. There is now an opportunity to change this universal pattern and ascend all our lower bodies, bringing a new pattern of ascension into Universal Manifestation. For the first time in this universe, there is a possibility for those choosing it, to increase the vibratory rate of the molecular structure of the physical body. As in all new things presented to humanity, the idea may well seem `way out' and impossible. Not so long ago, talking to someone thousands of miles away or walking on the moon, would have seemed impossible.

so summary is all ascension in the past requires a physical death... however a method of ascension is being created where u can ascend without having to die, i know this still sound vague but it is one of the least vague articles out there of a very vague subject. link for full article here
gnak

picture of a destroyed alien space ship on the far side of the moon...
picture from a former youtube user name retiredafb account since deleted or disabled

According to William Rutledge in August 1976 there was a classified space mission: the "Apollo 20", which explored a huge alien spaceship.

William Rutledge (according to his story, a man of 76 years old who lives in Rwanda, former of Bell Laboratories and employed by USAF) is the name of the "deep throat" who, since April 2007, has been disclosing information and spreading a lot of video and photographic material on YouTube, about the presumed Apollo 20 space mission. His user name on YouTube is "retiredafb", and the most amazing footage he released so far is the presumed flyover of an ancient alien spaceship found on the backside of the Moon by the Apollo 15 crew.The last official space mission to the Moon with crew was the Apollo 17 (NASA), which took place in December 1972, and the Apollo 20 mission was cancelled by NASA in January 1970. But the presumed footage of Apollo 20 is not the only material which came out in the last weeks: it was also released by William Rutledge a presumed studio for the flyover of the assumed alien spaceship (available on YouTube as the so-called preflight study for Apollo 20). And moreover on YouTube we have also several shots of the strange object on the backside of the Moon (whose numbers would be AS20-1020, AS20-1022 and AS20-FWD-7250). According to the YouTube file-card on William Rutledge, who uploaded the controversial footages and shots, "Apollo 20 went to the moon august 16 1976. Destination was Iszak D, southwest of Delporte Crater, farside of the moon. The mission was soviet-american. Crew was William Rutledge CDR, former of bell laboratories, leona snyder CSP bell laboratories, and alexei leonov, soviet cosmonaut former "apollo soyouz" (mission one year earlier)."There are a few inconsistencies in William Rutledge's memories that you can find in reading this interview. It could be comprehensible if you think about an old man (76 years old) who is trying to recall historical facts and events of his life. So, I am not astonished if Rutledge, for instance in talking about the former Russian President Boris Yeltsin who used tanks and troops during the assault to the Parliament building, recalled the years 1995 or 1994 when the exact year of the small civil war was 1993 ([…] "I went to the Ural in 1995 or 1994, can't recall, responding to an invitation, but it was a mess here, I crossed Moscow when tanks were shooting the Russian parliament" by W. Rutledge, from the answer nr.8 of the interview). I verified it later on an encyclopaedia, but I could not answer before to such a question. I remembered only it occurred at the beginning of the '90s. to read more click here

btw the video was on youtube and it was mind blowing to watch the alien ship in the video is huge and riddle with damages from explosion seemed to be caused by some laser like weapon...

good news this guy "retiredafb" created a new video sharing account on http://revver.com/ and a has posted more new videos most interesting are 2 vids of a dead alien they called "monna lisa" due to physical resemblance apparently they found this alien on board the destroyed spaceship

QUOTE(William Rutledge)
Mona Lisa - I don't remember who named the girl, Leonov or me - was the intact EBE. Humanoid, female, 1.65 meter. Genitalized, haired, six fingers (we guess that mathematics are based on a dozen). Function; pilot, piloting device fixed to fingers and eyes, no clothes, we had to cut two cables connected to the nose. No nostril. Leonov unfixed the eyes device (you'll see that in the video). concretions of blood or bio liquid erupted and froze from the mouth, nose, eyes and some parts of the body. Some parts of the body were in unusual good condition, (hair) and the skin was protected by a thin transparent protection layer. As we told to mission control, condition seemed not dead not alive. We had no medical background or experience, but Leonov and I used a test, we fixed our bio equipment on the EBE, and telemetry received by surgeon (Mission Control meds) was positive. That's another story. Some parts could be unbelievable now, I prefer tell the whole story when other videos will be online. This experience has been filmed in the LM. We found a second body, destroyed, we brought the head on board. Color of the skin was blue gray, a pastel blue. Skin had some strange details above the eyes and the front, a strap around the head, wearing no inscription. The "cockpit" was full of calligraphy and formed of long semi hexagonal tubes. She is on Earth and she is not dead, but I prefer to post other videos before telling what happened after.


links of the videos... again recommend to download these vids

http://revver.com/video/797542/apollo-20-e...d-transmission/
http://revver.com/video/797241/apollo-20-e...isa-16-mm-film/
gnak
Return of the Lightmasters

a very good and somewhat informative video about the benevolent alien races, starborns and ascension

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-632443226758156662
gnak
ok i post this in here since it talks of aliens but actually got the idea of it from this thread--->http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/index.php?showtopic=79422

all of the following info is from james casbolt

first of all theres an organization called SAALM [ Supreme Annunaki Assembly of Lord Marduk ]

the goals of the organization goals are as qouted from a letter from NSA personnel:

[The S.A.A.L.M. group have until 2012 [ Dec 22nd ] to execute the primary phase of their
agenda and bring their Ruler - an ancient Annunaki King called Lord Marduk into the
public domain.
I believe Lord Marduk is in fact the real physical personage of the
Antichrist,
[ and the King of Kings prophesised in the infamous Protocols of Zion
plan, which has been perfected through the ages through Lord Marduk, his two sons
and the global Masonic apparatus ]. I personally believe Marduk will use Accelerated
Learning technology to manifest 'miracles' and amaze the uneducated public exactly
as prophesied according to scripture (see the books of Daniel and Revelations). My
goal is to heighten public awareness about these and many other extremely
important issues whilst there is still a window of opportunity. Public awareness is
growing at an exciting pace, and the timing is perfect for the release of my material
which will be the straw that breaks the camels back. The cabal that is S.A.A.L.M. is
comprised of many people behind the scenes - some names you will recognize
others will mean nothing to the general public, although members through the
European black nobility, the Vatican, and high ranking members of the global military
apparatus will recognize their names and code rankings in the site.


another letter from SAALM representative dated September 2006

Greetings Brother Casbolt
Only six more years and the planet will be ours. Our LORD OF LIGHT Asmodeus will
soon reign Supreme upon this Planet.
Brothers Brezinski and Kissinger now ruling P40 and the Committee of 300 will
implement the FINAL SOLUTION
- billions dead and we gain nourishment upon their
BLOOD- The Haemoglobin is the energy we require.
Rockefeller/Rothschild Iluminata apparatus now preparing for the full financial
meltdown
Brother we welcome you into The Brotherhood [ the 33rd degree of Zion ] -
The Zetans will finalize the chipping protocol by 2009, Africa, India and China
containing our AIDS will fall at our feet as the bio-robotic Zetans microchip the
sheep.
All Hail Lord Marduk King of Kings
Caecus Barathrum Contumelia
In Service

JAMES
THE PHOTOS ARE REAL, BUT WERE ALSO PUT THROUGH A GRAPHIC MANIPULATION PROGRAM TO
ENSURE PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. THEY ARE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO REVEAL THERE PLANS
JAMES.
EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION MOST INCORRECT. ENLILS TIE IS A SAALM TIE THAT THEY ALL
WEAR AT MEETINGS INCLUDING BRZEZINSKI.
ENLIL AND BRZEZINSKI ARE VERY CLOSELY RELATED, BRZEZINSKI IS FROM A BLUE BLOOD JESUIT
FAMILY THAT TRACES ITSELF BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MARDUK LINEAGE.

gnak
quotes from a mysterious whistle blower on the ATS forum... from my opinion this guy is very credible

QUOTE
Arrival of the Andromedian Hellenic Battle StarFleet in the orbit of planet Saturn 1999. From 1999 to 2002, the observatories "Mauna Kea" Hawai, observed and counted about 115 new satellites - moons of planet Jupiter and 340 new satellites of planet Saturn < In reality those are accordingly 118 and 360. Explanation of the above information is judged as non-publishable >
"NASA" as a subagent of "NSA" < NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY > forbid the american astronomers and astrophysicists to make public or academic statements of those observations, with the excuse of "NATIONAL SECURITY". At the same time "NASA" took care of the exclusive circulation of the relevant information to Mass Media and Universities, through JPL/NASA.
But ... the astrophysicists of "Mauna Kea" Hawai and other observatories leaked to the circuit of the Astronomy and Astrophysics U.S. Universities , that the 115+340 new satellites of Jupiter and Saturn, in their photographic and spectrum analysis, show a surface of glossy titanium metal. From indepedent researchers H.R.G. informed that about 40 astronomers in US have died by mysterious unresolved death causes in 2003. From 2000, other american observatiories radiotelescopes and neutrino telescopes leaked to the American Universities the information about the observation of some 460 spherical radiation sources of subatomic particles and neutrinos. < In reality the spherical sources are 600. Explanation of the above information is judged as non-publishable >
Conclusion: A. In the orbit of planet Saturn have assembled about 960 battle planets < 360 Visible + 600 Invisible > of a starfleet that has attack position against the 7<8> inner planets (5 known + exploded Phaethon, Hephaistos and Hellas under Dragonian Control). In the orbit of planet Jupiter have assembled about 118 visible battle planets of another starfleet which has defensive position against the starfleet of planet Saturn.
"NSA"-"NASA" through "JPL" stated to the international media that the "new visible moons of Saturn and Jupiter are physical heavenly bodies which sportaneously <...> gathered there the 3 last years < !!! >, from other places of our solar system."
The american astronomers and astrophysicists characterized the above "NASA" statement as "False" for scientific reasons that will not be analysed in this message.
The Andromedians Hellenes of Sirius, in their departure rest assured the "Dogon-Mali" that they will return.
The Andromedians Hellenes through Sirius are once again in our solar system.

-HRG- signal fraction - ultraurgent


QUOTE
Unfortunately in order to spot the ships yοu will need a telescope of at least 8 meters apperture.. This will cost you some millions..

About the epsilon group mentioned earlier.
Epsilon group and Fourakis are a theosofists masons scheme (see: Croneans-Dracos-Hong motivated) in order to start world war
III from Greece and the Balkans area.
They try to bring a king here from Denmark that will call him the "Last king of Byzantium" or the "incarnation of Dionysos". Fourakis say that this king will lead Europe US and Greek armies to the depths of Asia (Upper Mongolia) after the staged occupation of the islands of Aegean and Northern Greece by the Albanian-Bulgaria-Turkey Axis.
China will then counterattack and will anihilate both the white and blackrace.
This theosofists scheme was blown open many times by HRG.


QUOTE
Names: The code names for the species are from their constellation of origin

Andromedian: Comes not from the galaxy of Andromeda but from the constellation of Andromeda. They came here through Sirius which is the most dense star in the local space and is the central sun of 12 solar systems. The Andromeda coallition has an ally the Pleiadians and other races. The andromeda gallactic goverment has as a center the andromeda galaxy which is the central galaxy of 12 smaller galaxies. They are the first settlers and civilizers of planet earth and their descedants is the white Pelasgian race. Hellenic is a code word a universal term and it means healers of the light, civilisers. It characterises the Andromedians. They are nordic in appearance. The Black Race is indigenous born along with the planet.

Dragonians: Comes from the constellation of Draco. This a revolt coalition against the gallactic goverment made out of various races including the Vrill or Greys, Draco subordinates that come from Zeta Reticculi or the Binary Star System of the Network. The Dracos are reptiloids - saurianoids in appearance. The Yellow Race is their genetic product here on earth, their terrestial settlers. Thus came the term Nation of the Dragon and the term Sauromates or Sarmates which etymologically means people with eyes like the lizard refering to the mongolians of Siberia strongly connected with the reptilians master spacerace who are top genetists. Ancient China mythology refers to Sui-Sing the spacevehicles that transfered the first settlers to earth from the moon, which is their semi-artificial satellite "settlers-ship"..
NWO Dragonian Master plan is to create a new home world here on earth exclusively for their race and to completely anihilate the other races in a massive staged WWIII at least before 2012 which is the year of intervention by the Andromedian superior starfleet.
The dracos are running out of time though.

Here is some more info...

The fact though that the recent years many astronomers from observatories were found dead all over the planet (I still remember the group of French astronomers that their coord train fell to a cliff... and the wires appeared cut) is somewhat alarming. The same alarming is the declaration of March 4rth of 2004, when General Gregory Martin said the US army was involved in the Mars project for building a base there, because an "outside" threat was expected. I don't think he meant comets. Also, many astronomers complain to NASA about their photographs being manipulated and of very poor quality. Those are just a few of the indications that say clearly that something is at work here.

I first got a glimse of this theory from an independent group called H.R.G. (Hellenic Restoration Group) as a part of P.R.G. (Planetary Restoration Group), which has people working together from multiple nations in order to see what is really going on with our world. If you try to find any website or link to them, it is non existent, as they are a primary target for many secret services. It took me years to try and verify their information. Do you happen to remember the movie "Signs" of Night Shyamalan? At some point Mel Gibson in his role said that what was happening (with the crops) are sick jokes of stupid people that have no girlfriends, spend time studying ancient Greek mythology, form secret societies and communicate in codes. I think you now understand more whom it meant! It makes you think... why all this trouble with that specific group at the time there are numerous UFO cults all over the world?! Coincidence? I don't personally believe in coincidences or luck. I believe in cause and effect.

I am sure that my post will cause disturbance but I can't help it. Time is running out and this is my information that I want to share.


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About the "neutrino telescopes". Some one said that they prefer to station them in the medditeranean sea and that neutrinos prefer this area. That is no coincidence because there lies one of the ancient stargates in the island of "Pylos" which translates to "Gate".

I will return back with more info about what actually are the neutrinos and why they spend millions to track them.

ps: The Dracos are also in coallition with some Andromedian revolters who have as a leader Cronos, "Saturn-Satur-Savit-Savaoth" some of his names, according to ancient mythologies and religious texts.

ps2: Someone also told that you can use amateur telescopes to spot the battlefleets in Saturn-Jupiter orbits. That is not true beacause Saturn is so far away and those satellites
are relatively so small (only a few km) that they are just to faint to spot them through amateur telescope. Only professional large scale observatories can track them which are controlled by the Army/Gov'nt/and the NWO.


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---HRG signal fragment---

We clear out: The Pylos channel is a physical electromagnetic Gate of entry by Galactic ships of 2nd, 3rd up to n-th degree dimension (2D,3D,nD) in the proximity space of our planet. The channel of Pylos crosses diametrically the earth sphere and expands beyond it up to the Sun. The Hebrew-Americans “Luminaries” driven by their masters Bootees of the Moon, have installed in Pylos and in a depth of 1300m a moderator and a tracker of “neutrinos”, meaning sub-sub-atomic particles of 3rd dimension. As a physical moderator acts the ground beneath. To the mass media they have announced that it’s about a “neutrino telescope”. This is a scam, because the earthly instrumnentology doesn’t have neither reflective, nor refractive or spectrometric devices, capable to stabilize images of neutrinos, meaning 3rd dimension, or 3rd fragmetric rarification of stellar matter. The neutrino detector was constructed in order to cover other earthly and underground installations.

Those are of 2 categories:

A. The first category contains trackers of 2nd and 3rd dimension ships. For earthlings the 2nd dimension ships are visible as bright semi-transparent geometric spectral solids. The 3rd and above dimension ships are completely transparent and invisible, as ships of “neutrino matter” or neutrino ships. The 2nd dimension requires trackers of sub-sub-atomic particles, meaning neutrinos, with the concept of moderators of vague neutrino tracking. The final moderations occur in Pylos with electromagnetic vertical polarized inductive water tanks. The inductive polarization, meaning the indirect polarization, applies because the direct polarization acts only for sup-atomic particles of 2nd dimension, when it doen’t have any action whatsoever over particles of higher dimensions of matter rarification.

B. The second category consists of earthly and underground MASER weapon systems, meaning invisible beam microwave Lasers, against the forthcoming Galactic Andromedians Hellenes in 2011-2012.

The Hebrew-Americans are just foolish, because this who afraid that will happen in the future, HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. There are “indications”, that the 2nd and 3rd dimension ships of the Galactic Police Force, have already arrived as a forerunner of the naturally slower ships of 1st Dimension of the Galactic fleet, which arrive in 2011-2012.
Through “Epsilon channel” we warn the American NSA that if they continue the above planning, the Hebrew-American forces will be devastated without mercy. Until here their behavior causes amusement to us the informed, and to the forthcoming, and to the already arrived. The farcical is that they try to commit a war operation against Galactic entities and ships, naturally and technologically and dimensionally higher of their Lunar Bootees “God”, Yahweh, Sin or Sion.
About us Hellenes, Pylos is converted to a classified war base against the forthcoming Gallactic Andromedians Hellenes. In this conspiracy acts and the “Greek government”…
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In case the Greek officers will detect MASERS installations, are called to order the direct withdrawal of all foreign “scientists” from Pylos, and the dismantling of all present installations.
Differently we are endanger to be considered as enemies by our same race space genitors, who are coming to liberate us after 13.500 years of Lunar, Bootic Revolt and Slavery to the “master” Yahweh-Sin-Zion of the moon.
In case this will happen, earthly Hellenes will be worthy only for cuspidors of the Galaxy.

---HRG signal fragment---


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That's right. They refuse to reveal the total number (118 in Jupiter, 360 in Saturn) out of fear of no natural explanation of this swarm of new satellites of 5-10 km in size. Combine this to the on purpose concealment of the spectral analysis (that reveals titanium surface) .. that will connect a lot of dots...
They keep their astronomers lip closed or "cover story" until they will assess the situation. They have cassini now to monitor them. Check all the UFO'S and anomalies in the raw photos.


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ok, about Alex Collier, after careful study I think it's a real contactee case, althought I believe he is a disinfo agent of the Croneans. Andromedian Cronean traitors contact him that work for the Dracos. And that is because he on purporse does not reveal the Dracos genetic product here on Earth, the mongolians and the yellow race, or their masterplan for a one-race home world draco-Dna domination through WWIII ignition or project "Armagedhon" as stated in the draconian "bible".

PS.. Moreover it's not easy at all for the 1st Dimension of matter rarification Andromedians beings and ships to cross the draconian inner planets defensive perimeter and get in direct contact with earthlings, so most of the human contacts with Nordic-Aliens are made by Cronean traitors acting as Andromedians of the Galactic Goverment or Gods of the Dodecatheon (or Scandinavian Dodecatheon "Thor" - See: Billy Mayer case)
Andromedians of the local galactic goverment and Zeus and his 12+1 member staff departed from Earth after the Uranus+Zeus versus Selene(YHWH)+Cronos(Croneans) < see hesiod's theogony > conficts in order to call for reinforcements. One part of the Zeus fleet escaped into the inner earth through the holes in the poles. These are the Nordics admiral Byrd states in his diary from his journey inside the inner earth.
Polar holes perimeter is tightly guarded by the NWO/NSA and superpower bases these days. Lot of UFO battles have been done there. Also there was a greys installation been destroyed recently by Andromedian ships there, the "cover story" was anounced by the media as an accident of a Russian outpost.


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PS.. Moreover it's not easy at all for the 1st Dimension of matter rarification Andromedians beings and ships to cross the draconian inner planets defensive perimeter and get in direct contact with earthlings, so most of the human contacts with Nordic-Aliens are made by Cronean traitors acting as Andromedians of the Galactic Goverment or Gods of the Dodecatheon (or Scandinavian Dodecatheon "Thor" - See: Billy Mayer case)
Andromedians of the local galactic goverment and Zeus and his 12+1 member staff departed from Earth after the Uranus+Zeus versus Selene(YHWH)+Cronos(Croneans) < see hesiod's theogony > conficts in order to call for reinforcements. One part of the Zeus fleet escaped into the inner earth through the holes in the poles. These are the Nordics admiral Byrd states in his diary from his journey inside the inner earth.
Polar holes perimeter is tightly guarded by the NWO/NSA and superpower bases these days. Lot of UFO battles have been done there. Also there was a greys installation been destroyed recently by Andromedian ships there, the "cover story" was anounced by the media as an accident of a Russian outpost.


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Orbits of the starfleet swarm stationed in Saturn. (The small purple regular orbit in the middle is Titan)
Unfortunately we are still a prison planet under Draconian-Cronian Occupation. But their time is running out.


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And indeed it is spooky.. After a while at last I restored my archive information about this and I will reveal. Numerous extreme so called "accidents" and deaths of rare causes of Astronomers and chief space scientists from the years 1997 to 2003 the years of the discovery and official "filtered" announcements of the new satellites (in reality artificial metallic battle planets) in Jupiter and Saturn orbits.
Let's begin with the European Astronomers "accident" in Alps close by it is a big european observatory of almost equal capabilities to the Mauna Kea in Hawai. I guess those astronomers would'nt interested to keep their lips tight closed. Not as easily controlled by the NSA as their USA counterparts.

French cable car crash kills 20

Everyone aboard the cable car was killed
ALSO:
Major worldwide cable car accidents since 1976

Article By CNN (Now removed! I wonder why)

July 1, 1999
Web posted at: 9:08 a.m. EDT (1308 GMT)
GRENOBLE, France -- A cable car plummeted to the ground in the French Alps early Thursday, killing all 20 people on board, local officials said.
Earlier reports indicated 21 people died.
The cause of the crash, which occurred at 7:30 a.m. as the cable car was taking staff members of an observatory to the top of the 2,700-meter (8,900-foot) Pic de Bure mountain, was not immediately known.
The regional prefect, Remi Caron, said the car detached itself from the cable, but the cable did not snap, as had been previously reported.
Most of the victims were reported to be employees of the observatory, which is run by French, German and Spanish scientists. The cable car was used only for the observatory and no tourists were believed to be on board.
The cable car fell 80 meters (260 feet), in the resort town of Saint-Etienne-en-Devoluy, south of Grenoble.
"The cable car fell. We don't know why. These are working people and they are dead," the resort's mayor, Jean-Marie Bernard, told Radio France-Info.
A spokesman in the prefect's office said 10 staff members of a public works company, five scientists from the IRAM astronomical institute and telephone company employees from Marseille were among the victims.
All the bodies were recovered Thursday morning, officials at the prefect's office confirmed.
An official investigation has begun into the cause of the accident, France's worst cable car disaster in more than 30 years.
The chief representative of the cable car union said the cable car was built in the 1980s and had recently passed a safety inspection. "It was in perfect working order," Charles Simiand said.
Simiand said the system consisted of one cable car with room for 20 passengers and another smaller one used to transport equipment.
Scientists from all over the world are known to visit the observatory, which is used virtually year round.
IRAM, the Institut de Radio-Astronomie Millimetrique, has set up six large antennas on top of the mountain to monitor stellar activity.
The crash occurred near the site of a 1976 accident on the same gondola lift, blamed on operator error, which killed 42 people.

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The following list is autotranslated to English:

A group of French astronomer with historical revelations ... just happened to die all together?
www.cnn.com...
(Article Now removed! I wonder why)

Carl Saggan died in December after a twoyears-battle with a rare disease.
On 3 July 1997, the son of a senior coach of the NASA spacecraft named Brewster Shaw, from Houston, was killed. The gazomeno body from bullets found in the trunk of his car at the bottom of a lake.
On 25 June 1997, the day scheduled for the combustion process of correcting spaceship, and the day of «accident» MIR, a senior program administrator at the headquarters of NASA, the Dr. Gergen Ray, was found dead near his home in Potomac, Maryland, under unusual circumstances.
A few days before ap'to above, a computer technician who worked in the PATHFINDER in Palo Alto, California was found dead. The body was sfinomeno between a tree and a fence into a busy, high-class urban area close to the university Stanford. The police claimed in this case that beaten to death by gang members.
H Program Manager of the Mars Surveyor at NASA headquarters in Washington, Mary K. Olsen, went to JPL in Pasadena a few months ago, and arrived at a hospital with a very strange and abnormal embolism, and finally died. He was just 35 years.
The astronomer Eugene Shoemaker, who discovered the comet that fell to Jupiter in 1994, was killed in a car crash Friday in Australia whilst on a journey to search for asteroid crater. He was 69 years.
O Shoemaker died in a double car in a road accident about 310 miles south of Alice Springs, central Australia, said police.
gnak
a little bit more info

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What follows is a transcript of a recorded speech inside the Zionist Chinese-Hebrew Masonic Hyper-Lodge of "Holy Oak" in New York. The recording was made with electronic means by ex-men of the Hellenic Central Intelligence Service in cooperation with electrical engineers of the Hellenic Restoration Group in 1984, New York USA.

BEGINNING OF THE RECORDED SPEECH

"…Brothers in the name of Draconian Yahweh Asmodai Jedi, of the Saturnian Lord and Lord of the Moon. After all that comprised the thesis of the teaching you have accepted, we would like to have them closed with antithesis and avoidance of certain actions that could endanger our great goal of the Atlantian group-of-races, through the extermination of the Andromedian-Dravidian group-of-races in our planet. We roundup the denials you have been taught by Brother STEINBERG. The nations, members of the Andromedian-Dravidian group-of-races, FOR ANY GIVEN REASON MUST NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE FOLLOWING:

1. The Atlantian group-of-races includes the 3 race branches of Israelites – Arabs – Touranian Mongols, this must remain hidden because of the danger from the revelation that the conflict between them is faked, in order for the Andromedians to remain disoriented.

2. The Atlantian group-of-races founded and commands U.S.A., Soviet Union, European Economic Community, China, this must remain hidden because of the danger from the revelation that the conflict between them is faked, in order for the Andromedians to remain disoriented.

3. Members of the Atlantian group-of-races Avarians, Bavarian Mongols of Germany created theory and action of Nazism – Fascism, this must remain hidden because of the danger from collapsing the Holocaust we created by genocide a part of our Atlantian Israelite people. Our brothers in the Name of Yahweh do not tantalize, because one tree bears fruit only after we lop it.
We have destroyed one part of our people in order for the rest -who was without national zeal- to flourish.

4. All the religions of our planet were created by our Atlantians brothers with purpose their final unification, regardless their seemingly differences.

5. The head of our group-of-races is Israel, the heart of our group-of-races is Arabs, the kidney of our group-of-races is Touranian Mongols.

6. The head of the Andromedian Dravidian group-of-races is Hellas and the only way to get rid of this snake of knowledge and demystification, is its final fall and crash, after we raise it too high in the position of the International Peace & Security Leadership in order to take in its shoulders the full responsibility of the failures of International Management and the collapsing of Nations that we will secretly perpetrate through the Masonic lodges for the year 1995.

7. We will lead all the nations of the planet to ask the head of Hellas on the plate for its failure as a international leader of Peace & Security in the upcoming septennium and that will be our moral alibi in order to completely genocide the Andromedian Hellenic race. Hellas is surrounded by our Touranian Mongols brothers of Turkey, Albania, Bulgaria and our Arab brothers of the Mediterranean, and our nation Israel, all the above must remain hidden because of the danger from the revelation of the total genocide of Hellenes we perpetrate for the year 1995.

8. All the political ideologies corresponding to the colors of the rainbow were founded and are commanded by our Brothers in order to disorientate and divide Andromedian Dravidians Hellenes.

9. Hellas has passed from the occupation of our Touranian Mongols brothers of Turkey, to the occupation of our Israelite brothers of England and the USA.

10. That the main biblical religions that refer to Jerusalem, are the same regardless of their contradictions and that our Atlantian brothers wrote the “Protocols of the elder of Zion” in order for the Andromedians Goyim to believe in the alleged conflict between Judaism and Christianity. The Andromedian head Hellas will be the Political Antichrist of the upcoming septennium

11. The Atlantian Israel will be the Political Christ of the 1000 years socialism, until for the Master of the planet Satturn to take himself the everlasting government.

12. The Satturnian Lord will command the underground Nefeleim of AGANTA and SABALA and the nightmarish DEROS of the underground lodges to climb in the surface of the planet in order for Hellas to take additional impeachment during the kingship of the Political Antichrist of Hellas, and additional impeachment to the Andromedians that live in the inner cavity of the planet.

13. Nefeleim are the reproduced race from Epsilon Bootes that drove the 5 races of 5 planets to conquer the Earth, under Tamil’s leadership who is the high officer of Yahweh.

14. Yahweh and his people arrived in our local space of Earth using the ships Levanah (Moon) and Lilith, 12.500 years ago, colonizing with Atlantians the already colonized earth by Andromedians.

15. Yahweh and his people declared revolution against the Government of the Local Galaxy and thus against the Federal Government of the Local Group of Galaxies that have as a center Andromeda. Yahweh ordered Tamil to play the role of the “Devil”.

16. Yahweh under the names of Sin, and Zion, engaged in the conflict of the Uranus dynasties (Saturn and Zeus), and made alliance with the first rebels of Saturn, against the Galactic Government and against Zeus, the representative of the Galactic Government.

17. The 3 outer planets still obey in the Galactic Government while the 6 outer planets under Saturn obey to the great rebel Yahweh.

18. The ships of the Local Galaxy and Andromeda Galaxy have arrived in the orbital level of planet Neptune in order to engage for the restoration of Galactic Authority in our Solar System.

19. The forces and ships of Yahweh are in a disadvantageous technological position, but will defend to the last one with the help of the Nations of the Planets, like in our planet from the technology of USA, and the Soviet Union.

Alelou Yahweh Alelou Yah, Alelou Ia, Alelou Metatron, Alelou Asmodai."

END OF RECORDED SPEECH
gnak
aliens on drugs by Anna Hayes

Original Title
White Powder Gold
from BeyondTheIllusion Website (http://beyond-the-illusion.com/)

There are numerous new concoctions of this stuff now surfacing... all basically the same substance called “White Powder Gold”, at various levels of strength. The Mono-atomic Gold is a milder version than some, but I would consider the following carefully before using it. White Powder Gold has ancient roots to Egypt and beyond. In 1998 I was given a body of data on that substance from the Guardian Alliance, which I never had time to typeset or publish.

The Guardian Alliance says White Powder Gold and related substances create a temporary improvement in body conditions, and in spiritual expansion experiences, and at the same time they erode the first 3 Strands of the DNA Template, by creating “Molecular Compaction”. The substances temporarily “fire” the dormant codes in the higher dimensional DNA strand Templates, releasing bursts of higher frequency into the DNA template, creating temporary “windows” to the higher dimensions and giving the physical body a temporary boost. But the firing of the higher strand codes, before the lower strand templates are activated enough to process those frequencies, creates “frequency overkill” in the lower strand template (LSD type drugs do this too).

The higher frequencies begin to crush the natural crystalline arrangement of the scalar-wave grids in the lower strand templates, like a hammer on a quartz crystal cluster. The lower strand templates progressively erode, creating mutation in the physical DNA, and deterioration in related body systems. (The Internal Bio-Regenesis Techniques from the Guardian Alliance fire the higher strand codes, but they simultaneously work to activate the lower strand codes to receive the higher frequencies, following the organic sequence of the DNA template in bring in the frequencies of the higher dimensions of consciousness... this is the natural way, and does not harm the DNA template or body).

I am told that White Powder Gold substances create a pattern of addiction in the body over time, they are progressively needed to maintain the general health once the lower strand DNA templates begin to unravel; this creates a viscous cycle of more gold = more template decay = need for more gold. Eventually the strand templates mutate the physical DNA and accelerate one’s unnatural passage to the otherworlds. Modern science knows nothing of the DNA templates or what substances effect them, so they can’t really tell anything about the substance except that it appears to create beneficial results “on the outside”.

No offense intended to the people involved with manufacturing or taking Mono-atomic, but I have come to trust the Guardian Alliance opinion on such things due to the extensive information they provide on the DNA template functions, so personally, I wouldn’t touch the stuff.

Natural forms of Silica supplements assist in the general well-being and DNA activation process, and the Guardian Alliance supports the light to moderate use of such supplements (they also say aloe-vera juice helps the body clear the more rapid release of toxins associated with DNA Template activation. There is a whole book waiting to be translated on the Vibrational Compatibility of Foods and Supplements with the human body and DNA template, but there are a few books first to write before we get to this one).

Regarding White Powder Gold-type substances, I do know, from clear reincarnational memory, that a strong version of the stuff was used in the Pharaoh days, and a Pharaoh I once knew did himself in and finally went insane from using the ancient White Powder Gold to achieve “enlightenment”.

I am also told that the ancient Sirian Nibiruian Anunnaki and Nephilim harvested earth for the element of gold because they had found a way to make a version of White Powder Gold that could be ionized into the air of their planet to create longevity of their biology. What they didn’t count on was that it created genetic dependence on the artificially manufactured substance, and if progressively higher concentrations were not imbued into the air, their bodies sickened and died rapidly.

After depleting their gold elemental supply, they turned to earth to harvest the element for production of the White Powder Gold-type substance, to sustain Nibiru’s atmosphere. Somewhere along the line they received some kind of genetic repair assistance from some other stellar race (Hathors, I think), that weaned them of the White Powder Gold dependence so they no longer needed to have the stuff in their planetary atmosphere, but their race still bears the genetic damage caused by use of the stuff.


The Guardian Alliance warned me about White Powder Gold in 1998 (before I ever heard of Mono-atomic), saying that the Drakonian Kurendara race of Nibiru (Nephilim-Dracos hybrids) were reintroducing the recipes for White Powder Gold on earth to help digression of human culture and malfunction of human DNA. According to Guardian Alliance, they introduced it as a “quick fix” for spiritual enlightenment, knowing that it would wipe out the integrity of the first 3 DNA strand templates, so humans would no longer be able to hold the natural activation of the higher DNA strands and the levels of consciousness that correspond to them.

Now, the substance is making it into the mainstream, with some sci-tech versions being contrived, and nobody really knows (except perhaps the star races and the Kurendara Nibiruan) where the great inspiration to make the stuff really came from. Food for thought when considering White Powder Gold products.
gnak
now alot of new ager's share the common opinion/belief that most ppl will make the quote "ascension event" sometime after 2012 and move towards a fifth dimensional existence or higher depending on who ur talking to

i used to believe in that... but new ager's also shoot themselves in the foot by completely polarising towards one side, they believe in arch angels, jesus, ascended masters and so on... this sounds too much like in christian religion like saints and all that... new age religion is nothing more than christianity with a face lift... but this is my opinion

now bak to where i started, most if not all ppl will make the ascension event... that again is another one of their bullshit stories... 1 thing theres too many retarded ppl out there, they cannot possibly make the ascension event because they wont change in order to become good... so i did some research into this the more i research the less credible the new ager's bogus fantasy story becomes, i always believe not everyone is equal physically or spiritually and that the few according to charts are spiritually advanced ppl which roughly constitutes to 15-20% of the worlds population will ascend the rest will be left behind (to most likely a nightmarish reality like stuff u see in a post apocalyptic horror movie) this might NOT happen i just add it in as a possibility. anyway my doubts about the number of ppl that will move into 5th dimension which i think is below 50% of worlds population as opposed the new ager's 99% minus the illuminati... well finally i got some proof from the book DSG (defending sacred ground) according to the book author quote "between 435 and 510 million people will literally move into 5th density by December 3, 2013." lets make it simple say 500 million ppl now theres 6.776 billion ppl in the world estimated at this current time according to wiki... so do the maths 500million out of 6700million thats like 7 and a half percent of the worlds population will find salvation and the rest better luck next time? whenever that will be...
PakSniper
Gnak, you are on a Pakistani forum with a majority of muslim public here. If you want to spread your E.T theory, you are not welcomed. Coz we as muslims belief in ALLAH and in the Koran we know that there are another type of intelligence living on this earth in another dimension: Djinss. So be smart, stop your E.T theory please.
_killuminati_
gnak,
Since you seem to be very knowledgeable about these things, I have an important question for you. I need all the information that you can provide regarding the following image:


What do you make of this picture?
Why is this figure depicted as holding his hands in such positions (one towards the sky, and the other towards the ground)? Thats the main thing I would like to know.


QUOTE (PakSniper @ Aug 9 2009, 04:57 AM) *
Gnak, you are on a Pakistani forum with a majority of muslim public here. If you want to spread your E.T theory, you are not welcomed. Coz we as muslims belief in ALLAH and in the Koran we know that there are another type of intelligence living on this earth in another dimension: Djinss. So be smart, stop your E.T theory please.

Well, Islamic scriptures also state that Jinns are able to transverse throughout the heavens (space), unlike Humans. The ET theory seems to be in line.
Pak-Eye
^ Talking about FACTS only ... just simple research on the writers of UFO, Aliens, E.T etc books you will find out whats wrong ...

BTW E.T. its a big market out there from toys to hollywood blockbusters; the capitalists need it!
_killuminati_
I don't agree with everything that they say about aliens, but Islamic scriptures do tell us that Jinns are able to transverse space and also may take human/animal form.
Caesar
I will only say this and I know a lot may not agree--We are not being TOLD THE TRUTH. In fact 99.9% of what we know today about humans and their lives is false! I wish there was a better way to explain, but I know it is extremely difficult to do this.
_killuminati_
Caesar,
Please eject yourself from this thread.
Caesar
QUOTE (_kiLLuminati_ @ Aug 10 2009, 06:36 PM) *
Caesar,
Please eject yourself from this thread.


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gnak
QUOTE (_kiLLuminati_ @ Aug 9 2009, 09:29 PM) *
gnak,
Since you seem to be very knowledgeable about these things, I have an important question for you. I need all the information that you can provide regarding the following image:


What do you make of this picture?
Why is this figure depicted as holding his hands in such positions (one towards the sky, and the other towards the ground)? Thats the main thing I would like to know.

i have no idea apart it is bloody ugly picture to draw... try asking a satanist they might give a more detail account

im not familiar with illuminati practices or belief system but i tell u wat i do know the ppl u call illuminati are in contact with negative aliens which gives them guidance some have genetic descendant to some alien groups that where here long time ago

if u look at all the sh1t happening in the world and u add in the alien factor all of the sudden everything makes sense... all the major short falls of humanity blame it on the aliens

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Gnak, you are on a Pakistani forum with a majority of muslim public here. If you want to spread your E.T theory, you are not welcomed. Coz we as muslims belief in ALLAH and in the Koran we know that there are another type of intelligence living on this earth in another dimension: Djinss. So be smart, stop your E.T theory please.

fair enough i wasnt getting much positive feedback so i stop posting... mods u can close this thread if want so i wont be temped to post in the future
Pak-Eye
^ Have you done research on Djinns (Demons)? Their attributes? The 'sense' you are looking for is right there
gnak
QUOTE (Pak-Eye @ Aug 15 2009, 05:21 PM) *
^ Have you done research on Djinns (Demons)? Their attributes? The 'sense' you are looking for is right there

no i dont research on jinns im not a muslim

r u trying to say that picture is suppose to represent wat a jinn would look like?

cus its sure not a alien one thing its skull is to small to hold a big enough brain for intelligence... but im not sure wat a jinn looks like or if they exist... but wat i do know is there's alot of ppl of the muslim faith that say jinns are aliens or something
Pak-Eye
lol ... well research & knowledge doesn't demand you to be

Existance of Djinns (Demons) have nothing to do with religion

Djinns existed before Islam, before Christianity, before Jews ... heck even before Adam (AS) was created

If you are afraid by doing research on Djinns you might feel like a Muslim, then do research on Demons :) And if you believe it might put you under Christianity, well then look for references about Demons even before Christianity ... nothing to do with religion

For thousands of years, people were made fool using Djinns/Demons as the later can perform certain unimaginable things; Djinns/Demons can change shapes, travel very fast, posses knowledge about certain events, can bring you money, power & gains but ofcourse with some payback ...

Do some research my friend with open mind only for the sake of knowledge
gnak
QUOTE (Pak-Eye @ Aug 15 2009, 06:43 PM) *
lol ... well research & knowledge doesn't demand you to be

Existance of Djinns (Demons) have nothing to do with religion

Djinns existed before Islam, before Christianity, before Jews ... heck even before Adam (AS) was created

If you are afraid by doing research on Djinns you might feel like a Muslim, then do research on Demons :) And if you believe it might put you under Christianity, well then look for references about Demons even before Christianity ... nothing to do with religion

For thousands of years, people were made fool using Djinns/Demons as the later can perform certain unimaginable things; Djinns/Demons can change shapes, travel very fast, posses knowledge about certain events, can bring you money, power & gains but ofcourse with some payback ...

Do some research my friend with open mind only for the sake of knowledge

i know wat they are... angels and demons/jinns both trying to win over the greater portion of humanity... wat im doing researching all this from an non religious perspective

this is why i dont look up jinns or demons because its subject to each religion bias... lets try to agree on one thing here wat u call jinns/demons i would call them alien from a scientific non religious point of view
Pak-Eye
First, angels AND Djinns (Demons) are two completely different beings.

Angels have NO will power, they do what is commanded to them by God, nothing else. Djinns on the other hand have WILL power just like humans and are free to do whatever they want to

'Alien' means something which is stranger to a place; yet I don't see Djinns (Demons) being guests to planet earth; they have been here even before mankind. I won't push you; I wud just leave you so you can find your own way. Like many other younger generation, you WANT to believe that Aliens exist; not your mistake when you have this 'image' all around you in the forms of toys, cartoons, games, movies yet without a single credible scientific piece of evidence

And the war my friend is not between Humans vs Djinns (Demons) ... the war is gonna be between Good & Evil, where both Humans & Jinns would be Evil as well as Good

You don't want to read religion coz as per you it could be bias; well the books u r read cud also be bias, infact they definetly would be coz $$$ is involved

Good luck
gnak
QUOTE (Pak-Eye @ Aug 15 2009, 07:20 PM) *
First, angels AND Djinns (Demons) are two completely different beings.

Angels have NO will power, they do what is commanded to them by God, nothing else. Djinns on the other hand have WILL power just like humans and are free to do whatever they want to

'Alien' means something which is stranger to a place; yet I don't see Djinns (Demons) being guests to planet earth; they have been here even before mankind. I won't push you; I wud just leave you so you can find your own way. Like many other younger generation, you WANT to believe that Aliens exist; not your mistake when you have this 'image' all around you in the forms of toys, cartoons, games, movies yet without a single credible scientific piece of evidence

And the war my friend is not between Humans vs Djinns (Demons) ... the war is gonna be between Good & Evil, where both Humans & Jinns would be Evil as well as Good

You don't want to read religion coz as per you it could be bias; well the books u r read cud also be bias, infact they definetly would be coz $$$ is involved

Good luck

well this must be ur best come bak argument i ever read from you... you do present some very convincing points

first i notice wat u said is i quote "Angels have NO will power, they do what is commanded to them by God, nothing else" wow that sort of sucks to be an angel (my opinion nothing else)... the way i see it having personal individuality and independence of will is the best way of life one could live out. another thing u said i want to believe in aliens cus of " toys, cartoons, games, movies yet without a single credible scientific piece of evidence" whoa lets get something straight here it has nothing to do with toys and every thing to do with scientific evidence plenty, if i were to post them i just be boring everyone cus no one reads them anyway... if u want back track this thread theres a tonne of evidence posted here

"You don't want to read religion coz as per you it could be bias; well the books u r read cud also be bias, infact they definetly would be coz $$$ is involved" wat religion is not money oriented? ok u can believe that...

btw one last note have u ever heard of the "The AntiChrist Dajjal will be a Reptilian ShapeShifter" series? made by some new age islam movenment look at how they worded the title of the series...
Pak-Eye
QUOTE (gnak @ Aug 15 2009, 01:19 PM) *
well this must be ur best come bak argument i ever read from you... you do present some very convincing points


Well thanks

QUOTE (gnak @ Aug 15 2009, 01:19 PM) *
first i notice wat u said is i quote "Angels have NO will power, they do what is commanded to them by God, nothing else" wow that sort of sucks to be an angel (my opinion nothing else)... the way i see it having personal individuality and independence of will is the best way of life one could live out. another thing u said i want to believe in aliens cus of " toys, cartoons, games, movies yet without a single credible scientific piece of evidence" whoa lets something straight here it has nothing to with toys and every thing to do with scientific evidence plenty if i were to post them i just be boring everyone cus no one reads them anyway... if u want back track this thread theres a tonne of evidence posted here


Appreciate your posts; and appreciate the time you spent there; but then again the world has yet to see any credible scientific institution/entity coming forward and presenting scientific evidence with regards to UFO/Aliens ... not just loads of literature

As for angels, here comes the difference; we believe in religion and 1 God and you don't; we believe life is an EXAM yet you believe life is all about individualism ... so we won't be able to agree on things here due to our fundamental beliefs

QUOTE (gnak @ Aug 15 2009, 01:19 PM) *
"You don't want to read religion coz as per you it could be bias; well the books u r read cud also be bias, infact they definetly would be coz $$$ is involved" wat religion is not money oriented? ok u can believe that...


Above was in reply to your statetement that 'too much bias is in religions"; if you find too much bias in religion and there is lot more bias in 'commerical' books, then why read one and not the other

PS: Prior to Iraq Invasion, there were articles/research papers/credible evidences about WMD in Iraq; I wonder what happened to all those writers and their literature
Caesar
Here is a question for you Pak-Eye:

"How Many Angels have Seen God?"
Pak-Eye
QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 17 2009, 06:51 AM) *
Here is a question for you Pak-Eye:

"How Many Angels have Seen God?"


With all sincereity, only God knows

You have been in touch with Mark-Sien; I have great respect for him; if he is unable to convince you, I am afraid I won't either

Faith has something to do with logic rather than straight forward physical proofs; whether millions of angels have seen God or none, will it affect the existance of God? There could be one million and one questions like this e.g. what is the color of God? Where does he sit? Does it rain there? etc etc etc

You know the irony; satanists worship devil but they do NOT deny God!!! Strange huh

Good luck friend

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