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[HKK]

http://dawn.com/2012...efence-systems/



NEW DELHI: Delhi and Mumbai, the two most vital cities of India, have been chosen for Ballistic Missile Defence system of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) that can be put in place at short notice.
A detailed proposal is being prepared for final clearance by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS).
Work on installing the BMD system in the two cities has already begun and the final proposal will be put before the government after detailed analysis of the project, sources have told PTI.
The sites for installing radars to track enemy missiles and storing counter-attack projectiles would be determined during the planning stage, they said, adding that the locations must have adequate stealth feature and protection against enemy sabotage.
To ensure maximum protection against airborne threats, the DRDO will put a mix of counter-attack missiles which will be able to shoot down enemy missiles both within the Earth’s atmosphere (endo-atmospheric) and outside it (exo-atmospheric).
The BMD system would require minimum human intervention due to the complete automation of tracking devices and counter-measures. Human intervention would be required only to abort the mission, the sources said.
After successful implementation in Delhi and Mumbai, the system would be used to cover other major cities in the country, they added.
The shield, developed by the DRDO, has undergone a series of successful tests. It can destroy an incoming ballistic missile with the range of up to 2,000km.
During the test stage, DRDO used variants of Prithvi missiles as simulated targets and successfully intercepted them in mid-air.
All the necessary elements such as long-range radars and tracking devices, real-time data-link and mission control system required for installing the BMD missile system have also been successfully tested by the DRDO.
By arrangement with the Times of India

[HKK]

We need to understand the gravity of situation and act against this axis of evil (yanks/israel/india). It is the same missile defence shield yanks/zionist are deploying in europe/israel and now in india, labled as some sort of "DRDO indegenous marvel". They are clearly preparing for a nuke war with Pakistan. It is reckless but they are hell bent on it. From our part we must act now.

This half cup full nuke status is becoming more of a joke and not serving our nation security interests.

[sadiq]

I think it's Israel and Russia that helped India in achieving the Missile Defence system.....not the US. Because this programme was started in the 90s, India was not having good relations with US at that time....anyways great news...hope, the system would be insatalled in other major cities soon.....Long live Indo-Russian and Indo-Israel friendship.....

[safdar]

sadiq, on 28 June 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

Because this programme was started in the 90s, India was not having good relations with US at that time....

They only manage to get two Green Pine radars from Israel, until USA stepped in and vetoed! which still holds even with your "good" relations.
After 10 years India has not managed to reverse engineer the radars! no wonder only two cities are protected. so dream on and then start worrying when china puts a radar in Pakistan with batteries facing India.

[sadiq]

it is not about reverse engineering a radar technology like the chinese.... what if other major cities too get the BMD System soon.....??? and I'm surprised by your comment that China putting a radar in Pakistan, which shows the incapabality of Pakistan and that India is at par with China....and I don't think China needs the help of Pakistan to counter India....

[sadiq]

http://en.wikipedia...._Tracking_Radar

India's BMD tracking radar....has a tracking range of 600-800kms....

[safdar]

sadiq, on 29 June 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

it is not about reverse engineering a radar technology like the chinese....

Of course it isn’t! for India its repaint and rename.

sadiq, on 29 June 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

what if other major cities too get the BMD System soon.....??? and

Don’t count your chicks before the eggs are laid! 2 green pine radars! thats all you got. besides, If Mumbai and Delhi got nuked I doubt if there would be anyone left to question why the BMD didn’t work! no wonder they only got two cities protected!

sadiq, on 29 June 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

I'm surprised by your comment that China putting a radar in Pakistan, which shows the incapabality of Pakistan and that India is at par with China....and I don't think China needs the help of Pakistan to counter India....

If china had tracking radars in Pakistan Indian missiles wouldn’t even get to half boost before they knocked out of the skies (learn something from Russian-American missile shield). The Himalayas protect the Chinese. And yes the Chinese would appreciate our help.

[Magnus]

Government baffled over DRDO chief’s claim on missile shield
Published July 18, 2012 | By admin
SOURCE: INDIA TODAY




The government of India has been baffled by DRDO chief V.K. Saraswat’s repeated claims that aballistic missile shield is ready for deployment, and that two locations, presumably New Delhi and Mumbai, will be the first recipients of the ballistic missile defence (BMD) system. Speaking on a TV programme in early May, Saraswat said that “this system is now ready for induction”. Nearly two weeks later, the claim was repeated in an interview to Press Trust of India where Saraswat was quoted as saying, “The ballistic missile defence shield is now mature… We are ready to put phase I in place.”

Well-known defence technology analyst Prasun K. Sengupta is sceptical; he bluntly terms the DRDO’s claims as “sheer unabashed jingoistic kite-flying by DRDO, period”.Only six tests, that too in highly controlled conditions, have taken place so far and there is no independent confirmation of whether they have been successful. As of now it is not clear which of the three services will even man the system. Former joint director of the Centre for Air Power Studies, Air Vice-Marshal (retd.) Kapil Kak says, “It is indeed surprising why the IAF – as the national instrument vested with the responsibility of India’s air defence – was not closely involved from the proof-of-concept stage itself.”

Mail Today requested the DRDO to respond to a series of questions early last week, but had received no response till Tuesday.According to the DRDO, six of its seven tests have been successful. But, instead of carrying them out in realistic conditions, they have been done in laboratory conditions so far. The usual test comprises of the launch of a “hostile missile” from the Interim Test Range in Chandipur on the Orissa coast, and the counter-launch of an interceptor missile from Wheeler Island just 70 km away. DRDO scientists say that the target missile that was intercepted in the test of February 2012, for example, mimicked a 2,000-km range missile of the type that Pakistan possesses, yet it was actually launched from 70 km away.

Equally important is the fact that the “target” missile is a liquid fuelled slow-moving Prithvi, and as of now the DRDO has not tested its system against its own solid-propelled missiles like Agni I or Agni II. As Sengupta puts it, “Its (the Prithvi’s) slow speed during both the boost phase and the terminal phase “does not in any way mimic the flight profiles of the solid-fuelled Theatre Ballistic Missiles and Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles with both China and Pakistan.”

With nuclear weapons around, only a shield that will guarantee blocking every single missile is the only one worth having. As of now there is no indication that the DRDO, or any other country, can achieve such a goal. None of the DRDO’s claims have been verified by third parties, say, any of our armed forces. In contrast, China’s January 2010 test was authenticated by the Pentagon whose spokesman said, “We detected two geographically separated missile launch events with an exo-atmospheric collision also being observed by space-based sensors.”

The Indian BMD system is something of a puzzle. It was initially mooted by APJ Abdul Kalam in 1997 and taken up in the 2000s, when key technology relating to tracking, fire control and guidance radars became available from Israel, France and Russia. However, none of the three services ever expressed any requirement for such a system. Their need has been for a system to counter shorter ranged, theatre ballistic missiles and cruise missiles.

Non-proliferation experts are appalled at the lack of any visible political guidance to the BMD. The obvious response of an adversary to a missile shield is to field greater numbers of missiles with nuclear weapons; that seems to be the track Pakistan is following. Kak notes, “For an unstable and fragile state like Pakistan, India’s BMD could indeed be destabilising, as this would substantially reduce the value of Pakistan’s nuclear and missile arsenal, tempting it to increase the same.”

MIT scholar Christopher Clary argues that, “Indian policymakers must be willing to make the calculation that whatever safety comes from missile defences of dubious effectiveness outweighs the risks that come from a Pakistani nuclear arsenal that is larger than it would be without Indian missile defences.”

Of course, there is the other question. In its claims DRDO says that the system will be ready for “two places”, presumably Mumbai and Delhi. But what about Kolkata, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Lucknow and the rest of the country?

The government only has itself to blame for permitting a technology programme with such serious ramifications and not providing it any political guidance.

http://idrw.org/?p=12830#more-12830

[safdar]

Magnus, on 20 July 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

Dumb Indians are using the USA AN/FPS-115 phased array radar in the picture! The American radar has a range of 3000 nautical miles! http://www.globalsec...dfst8206016.jpg

MIT scholar Christopher Clary argues that, “Indian policymakers must be willing to make the calculation that whatever safety comes from missile defences of dubious effectiveness outweighs the risks that come from a Pakistani nuclear arsenal that is larger than it would be without Indian missile defences.”

Precisely the point why Pakistan should increase its stockpile of short and medium range missiles to counter Indian anti-BM batteries and pushing India on the defensive by forcing India to increase their anti-BM batteries instead of offensive BMs.