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[Hulegu]

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Hulegu, on 27 July 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

and here is a 'lousy' video-shop work

nope, thats genuine

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[Bilal]

The sooner the Assad regime falls the better...

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Hulegu, on 28 July 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

brother are you thirsting for genocide, sectarianism, and terrorism? .....some of which has been brought to Pakistan by these terrorists and their pawn fat spineless arab good for nothing financiers?

Tell me, did you not celebrate the fall of Saddam? Then why the double standard?

[Hulegu]

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[Bilal]

Asad is killing his people in the same way, just to hold on to his power... He deserves to be removed... and please dont tell me its all propaganda cause its not... I have syrian friends who tell me its not...

[Hulegu]

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[Bilal]

So Saddam, Qaddafi, Stalin were all justified by the same logic... Every tin pot murderous dictator is...

[Hulegu]

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[Bilal]

Yes when you see them through the glass of bias...

[SaudiArabian]

Bilal, on 29 July 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

Yes when you see them through the glass of bias...

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[Hulegu]

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[Bilal]

You tend to look at the world in black and white, well its not! its all in gray. Does Saudi backing the rebels make Asad an angel? certainly not! The people of Syria deserve to get rid of Asad, if they have finally decided to do so... They started out peacefully. But, when you bomb peaceful protestors, expect them to turn violent. Imagine what would have been the outcome if Musharaf had started killing people during lawyers movement with tanks... we would be facing a full scale civil war here like Syria... One should know when one is not wanted and leave with respect and dignity...

BTW Iran supported the Libyan rebels and if I am not mistaking they also supported the people of Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen against their dictators... then why treat Asad differently. Realpolitik anyone?

http://www.reuters.c...E72K50L20110321

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Hulegu, on 29 July 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

No, I see them (terrorism & terrorists) through the glass of reality- Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Chechenya, Libya, Iraq etc.

nope you see them through the glass of Press TV

[Bilal]

Helagu... you shared this video... excellent sum up of the situation... the bottomline is Asad should have been wise enough to go...



Note like in the case of other arab uprisings, israel does not want any change to happen...

[SaudiArabian]

Saudi- SR 440 million collected for Syrians

MENAFN - Arab News - 31/07/2012

(MENAFN - Arab News) A total of SR 440 million cash donations have been collected under the National Fundraising Campaign for the Syrians by 6 p.m. on Monday, an official statement said.

The campaign was ordered by Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah last Monday to alleviate the suffering of Syrians reeling under the country's oppressive regime.

Saudis as well as expatriates competed with one another in extending generous donations to the fund during the five-day telethon in an expression of solidarity with the Syrians.

Campaign officials said people can continue to deposit their cash donations in the NCB account (SA231 00 000 201 88 888 000 100).

Interior Minister Prince Ahmed commended the tremendous public response to the king's call to support the Syrians. He said measures have been taken to distribute the Saudi relief supplies among the Syrians.

http://www.menafn.co...ted-for-Syrians


SR 440 million = ~USD 117.33 million

[SaudiArabian]

Hulegu, on 28 July 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

When Israel attacked Lebanon, Saudis blamed Hezbollah for fighting Israel and not negotiating with them. When Israel attacked Gaza, Saudis blamed Hamas for the same reasons. We all know that NATO has a big part to play in Syrian crisis that could cost alot of Syrian lives for political gains of Israel and or NATO. When Sayed Hassan called on Syrians to negotiate and not play in the hands of the foreigners, the Saudis blamed him and their proxies kidnapped some Lebanese and called on Nasrullah to apologize for mentioning the word 'negotiation'.
These spineless arabs have negotiated with Israel for 30+ years and still see negotiation as a viable way to proceed with Israel. But with their own Arabs, these dumb quads are not ready to negotiate.

[SaudiArabian]

Saudi aid convoy for Syrian refugees leaves Riyadh

Thu Aug 2, 2012 10:05pm IST

* Saudis have led diplomatic efforts to isolate Assad gov't
* Accuses Assad of targeting civilians

RIYADH Aug 2 (Reuters) - A convoy of trucks left Riyadh for Syrian refugee camps in Jordan on Thursday evening carrying the first batch of aid from a 10-day national appeal that has so far raised $125 million.

Saudi Arabia, the world's top oil exporter and birthplace of Islam, has led Arab diplomatic efforts to isolate the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad over his suppression of a 16-month-old rebellion against his rule.

The predominantly Sunni Muslim kingdom has accused Assad of targeting civilians, but is also mindful that his government is the closest Middle East ally of Saudi Arabia's big regional rival, Shi'ite Iran.

Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal previously has backed the idea of arming rebel forces and last week Reuters reported that Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey had established a base in southern Turkey to aid Syria's opposition.
In a statement on Saturday Saudi Arabia's foreign ministry did not directly deny the report, but said its position was to extend to the Syrian people "financial and humanitarian assistance".

It also called for Syrians to be enabled "to protect themselves" if the international community proved unable to protect them.
Syria and Iran have accused Saudi Arabia of fuelling the violence in the country.

The Saudi Press Agency reported late on Wednesday that the campaign, which was launched by King Abdullah with a $5.3 million donation last Monday, had raised 468 million riyals ($125 million).

The 43 aid trucks assembled in a shopping mall car park in northern Riyadh before the sunset prayer, loaded with food, medicine and clothing under orange tarpaulins.

The drivers, mostly Pakistanis, wore white T-shirts bearing the campaign logo, along with matching baseball caps.

To one side a tent had been erected with a buffet inside for the sunset breaking of the Ramadan fast, after which they would set off on the roughly six-day journey to the camps along Jordan's border with Syria.

Campaign director, Mubarak Said al-Baker, said dozens of volunteers were travelling with the trucks to assist in the distribution of the aid.

The trucks were marked with the slogan "Saudi kingdom of humanity" in English and Arabic along the sides, while the cabs were decorated in more ornamental style with flags, stickers, plastic flowers and the Muslim invocation ma sha'Allah, or "God has willed it".

http://in.reuters.co...E8J2N7X20120802

[Caesar]

I think to the dismay of fat Saudis, Syrians are doing well, and they have pushed Saudi supported terrorists back. I call them terrorists cause these so called freedom fighter are actually saudi supported a.holes who are killing innocent women and kids and then through their media like Al-jazeera they blame it on Syrian government.

I have to say they are cold blooded murderers.

[butterfly]

Caesar, on 03 August 2012 - 03:48 AM, said:

I think to the dismay of fat Saudis, Syrians are doing well, and they have pushed Saudi supported terrorists back. I call them terrorists cause these so called freedom fighter are actually saudi supported a.holes who are killing innocent women and kids and then through their media like Al-jazeera they blame it on Syrian government.

I have to say they are cold blooded murderers.

Caesar....of all the thing what you have said above is totally rubbish.
Personally have friends from maidan region of Damascus who have just arrived in the uk. The situation is terrible there and not because of the FSA but because of the alawi army. This is not the first time the Asad regime has conducted such barbaric acts. His father previously did the same. But this time there is a credible opposition. The alawi are a minority 10-15% and have ruled with an iron fist because of the French. Your hate for Saudis shouldn't let you misjudge another people. This really is a struggle for freedom.

[Caesar]

butterfly, on 03 August 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

This really is a struggle for freedom.

Yeah sure, sure it is a holy war, a war of freedom .... financed by Fat saudis!  

[Bilal]

butterfly, on 03 August 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

Caesar....of all the thing what you have said above is totally rubbish.
Personally have friends from maidan region of Damascus who have just arrived in the uk. The situation is terrible there and not because of the FSA but because of the alawi army. This is not the first time the Asad regime has conducted such barbaric acts. His father previously did the same. But this time there is a credible opposition. The alawi are a minority 10-15% and have ruled with an iron fist because of the French. Your hate for Saudis shouldn't let you misjudge another people. This really is a struggle for freedom.

InshAllah soon they shall have their freedom...

[warhead]

Also Syria needs to take precautions before about confirmation of the security of chemical assets with Russia. zionists can plan a small scale false flag chemical attack to push un either by a stolen bomb or brought outside blaming govt forces.

[aamirzs]

Russian warships to visit Syrian port of Tartus




Three large Russian landing ships carrying hundreds of marines will soon visit the port of Tartus in war-torn Syria, the Russian military says, according to BBC News.

The ships, each with up to 120 marines on board, will spend a few days in the port, the general staff source said.

They will take on fresh supplies of food and water. Russia has a small naval maintenance facility at Tartus.

It is not clear whether some marines will stay in Tartus. Russia supports Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The source did not give details of their military equipment - a sensitive issue, because Mr Assad relies on Russian military hardware for his armed forces.

Russian officials have dismissed speculation that their military could intervene in the conflict to bolster Mr Assad's regime.
Heavy fighting is raging in the city of Aleppo, where Syrian government forces are trying to oust Free Syrian Army (FSA) rebels.

The three Russian amphibious assault ships are in the Mediterranean now. After calling in at Tartus they will head for the Bosphorus and the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossiysk, the unnamed source told reporters on Friday.

The ships, part of Russia's Northern Fleet, are the Alexander Otrakovsky, the Georgy Pobedonosets and the Kondopoga.
The source, quoted by Interfax news agency, said one would anchor off Tartus and the other two would use a floating dock, because the port facilities were limited.

There is speculation that Russia may begin evacuating its nationals from Syria and deploy marines to protect personnel and equipment, as the violence intensifies.

Some 30,000 Russian citizens live in Syria, according to reports in the New York Times and Financial Times.

[butterfly]

Caesar, on 03 August 2012 - 06:12 AM, said:

Yeah sure, sure it is a holy war, a war of freedom .... financed by Fat saudis!  

Caesar sorry to point out something......but you don't believe in God so why bring up things such as holy war? So what if the Saudi are financing it. You issue with that is?
My question is why is your personal hate/issues with respect to Saudi's making you hate the Syrians and why are you in love with the alawi who are not even Muslim, were brought to power by the French to keep the Muslims suppressed.

[SaudiArabian]

Saudi King invites Iran’s President to Islamic summit in Mecca

Sunday, 05 August 2012

By Al Arabiya

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has sent an invitation to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to attend an emergency Islamic summit in Mecca later this month, according to Saudi state news agency (SPA).

SPA reported that the invitation was delivered by the Saudi Ambassador to Iran Mohammed Al-Kilabi during a meeting with the Head of the Presidential Office Rahim Mashaie.

The Saudi King has called for “extraordinary Islamic solidarity meeting to ensure... unity during this delicate time as the Muslim world faces dangers of fragmentation and sedition,” according to the Saudi Gazette .


The crisis in Syria is expected to top the agenda at the meeting that will be held on August 15-16 in the holy city.

A Saudi diplomat told Arab News Sunday that leaders of the 57-member Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) have been invited to attend the summit, adding that OIC foreign ministers would meet on August 13 to prepare for the summit.

OIC Secretary-General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu told the newspaper that in addition to the situation in Syria, the plight of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar would figure high on the summit’s agenda.

http://english.alara.../05/230456.html

[Jazba-e-Kashmir]

heard on the radio that between 50-80 Iranians have been captured the by Syrian Liberation Army. It says it has evidence and documents of those captured persons realted to the Iranian Revolution Guard, meaning Iran is sending it's Elite Soldiers to support Bashar's regime.

Does anyone if this news is true, since I haven't seen any news update on this issue yet.

Peace

[SaudiArabian]

Jazba-e-Kashmir, on 05 August 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

heard on the radio that between 50-80 Iranians have been captured the by Syrian Liberation Army. It says it has evidence and documents of those captured persons realted to the Iranian Revolution Guard, meaning Iran is sending it's Elite Soldiers to support Bashar's regime.

Does anyone if this news is true, since I haven't seen any news update on this issue yet.

Peace

there are already thousands of IRGC and hezbolla troops there. they were deployed ever since this has started. This fact prompted KSA, Turkey and Qatar to provide military support for The Free Syrian Army which was standing alone by itself since Syria turned into a country under Iranian occupation.

currently hundreds of Russian troops are deployed there as well.

the Syrian military establishment is already falling apart. its only foreign forces that keeps it still intact together.

[warhead]

Another thing is the rumours of Syria or even Iran now supporting pkk against Turkey. This needs to be clarified and I think it is Us manipulation of intel given to Turkey and these days sorry to say but we seem to be too inclined towards Us and the charismatic influence of mr. obama. Since Iran or Syria supporting pkk would also be shooting their own foot I think it is a setup. Not long ago Iran was bombing Us supported pjak, pkks Iran branch and for Syria the ethnic kurdish separatist plan of Us wont be very different which was put into use well in Iraq. Firtsly an autonomous state and later a separated country like they did in Yugoslavia and with pressure Sudan. So I dont think Syria nor Iran is that stupid supporting something that will hit them later. From Syria's point of view that would also put them in the place that they are currently up against supporting someone else's terrorists for their own sake.

[SaudiArabian]

Assad's regime Prime Minister have fled the country to Jordan and have joined the Syrian Resistance. Apparently he spent most of his time in office securing the escape of his family out of the country first before he fled.

[aamirzs]

Russian general killed in Syria, rebel group says

A Syrian rebel group said on Wednesday, August 8 it had killed a Russian general working as an adviser to Syria's ministry of defense in an operation in the western Ghouta region on the outskirts of the capital Damascus, Reuters reported.

A video statement from a group calling itself the "Hawks Special Operations Battalion...a division of the Military Leadership of Damascus City and Province", gave the name of the general as Vladimir Petrovich Kochyev. The video, sent to Reuters, showed what the rebels said was a copy of his ID, as issued by the Syrian military.

The same group claimed responsibility for the assassination of four of President Bashar al-Assad's top lieutenants in Damascus last month.
There was no immediate comment from the Russian authorities.

Russia, which has an estimated several hundred military personnel in Syria, is one of the few countries still backing Assad diplomatically since a popular uprising against his rule erupted 17 months ago.

[aamirzs]

Tehran conference: Khar opposes coercive measures in Syria


ISLAMABAD:
With violence engulfing major cities in Syria, including Damascus and Aleppo, Pakistan has voiced its opposition to any “coercive” measures in Syria which could worsen an already volatile situation in the troubled country.

Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar made these remarks at a hurriedly called ministerial level consultative meeting on Syria which opened in the Iranian capital on Thursday. The meeting, held a few days before an extraordinary summit of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) called by Saudi Arabia on Syria, demonstrates the strained relations between the two Middle East powers.

Attended by delegates from 28 countries, the conference is seen as Iran’s attempt to garner support against regime change in Syria. The conference is seeking to find a sustainable solution to the burgeoning humanitarian crisis after the United Nations failed to rein in the warring parties.

In her opening statement, Foreign Minister Khar reiterated the need to find mutually agreeable political solution to the impending crisis saying that prolonged instability in Syria would have serious consequences for the Muslim Ummah.

Khar explained why Pakistan abstained from voting for the UN resolution on Syria last month, saying that Pakistan opposed any outside intervention which could worsen an already complex situation.

Highlighting Pakistan’s belief in the principles of territorial integrity and respect for national sovereignty of member states, the foreign minister said that “we also need to be mindful that the way we deal with any particular crisis becomes a precedent to be emulated in future.”

Hosting Iranian Foreign Minister Minister Ali Akbar Salehi reiterated that Tehran firmly believes that the Syrian crisis can only be resolved through serious and inclusive talks between the government and opposition groups that enjoy popular support in Syria.

International attempts to negotiate a peace deal broke down after UN special envoy for Syria, Kofi Annan, resigned from his post, citing finger pointing and lack of sincerity in working towards a peaceful resolution.

The deepening crisis, which has resulted in approximately 17,000 deaths so far, is threatening to hurl the country in to civil war as opposition to Bashar Assad’s regime gains force.

[caliph]

Some People fail to realise that there are already outside intervention going on and that is by Iran sending thousands of elite forces to help the regime and kill the Syrians.

As So much I hate the Saudi regime but on their financial support for the revolution is probably the most positive thing they are doing in the last 30 years. Since there are outside intervention going on in syria, Turkey needs to arm the opposition properly and send in their elites as well. Survivability of Assad regime would be detrimental for turkeys short term and long term future security and economy.

[1Pakistani]

caliph, on 10 August 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Some People fail to realise that there are already outside intervention going on and that is by Iran sending thousands of elite forces to help the regime and kill the Syrians.

As So much I hate the Saudi regime but on their financial support for the revolution is probably the most positive thing they are doing in the last 30 years. Since there are outside intervention going on in syria, Turkey needs to arm the opposition properly and send in their elites as well. Survivability of Assad regime would be detrimental for turkeys short term and long term future security and economy.

For those who are saying that Syrian uprising is wrong and that Syrian people are being taken for a ride are wrong.

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A POPULAR Sydney sheikh and teacher has been killed by a rocket attack in Syria, his family in Australia has confirmed.

Sheikh Mustapha Al Majzoub died on Sunday while carrying out humanitarian and charity work in conflict-torn country, the family said in a statement, which also thanked the community for its support and messages of condolences.

‘‘Although it is a time of sadness as we have lost a much loved member of our family, we are honoured that Sheikh Mustafa died doing what he has been doing his entire life - selflessly serving the community for the sake of pleasing God,’’ it said.

He was buried in Syria yesterday with his funeral presided over by his brother, Sheikh Fedaa Majzoub, the only Australian member of the opposition Syrian National Council, the Muslim Village website said.
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Due to the difficulties accessing information from Syria, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade is yet to confirm Sheikh Al Majzoub’s death, or whether he is the first Australian to die in Syria's ongoing conflict.
Tributes for the well-known sheikh, who was of Syrian heritage, have flooded social media sites ahead of a gathering to be attended by his family in Lakemba tonight.

The NSW counter-terrorism command would most likely be keeping a close eye on the situation, given its potential to further inflame simmering tensions between Sydney's Sunni and Shiite communities over the Syrian conflict.
The former teacher at the Unity Grammar School in western Sydney travelled to the country on humanitarian grounds in June, but the circumstances of his death remained unclear as news began reaching the community in Australia amid celebrations to mark the end of Ramadan.

Some initial reports stated that Sheikh Al Majzoub was leading a rebel platoon in the northern town of Salma when he was hit, a prospect dismissed by family and community leaders.

Lebanese Muslim Association president, Samier Dandan, said he believed the brothers were facilitating talks between the leaders of rebel groups that may need to work together after the conflict, rather than being directly involved in any fighting.

"Because of the calibre of individuals that they are, you need them at that higher level trying to build bridges between all the different groups," he said.

‘‘People like that, honestly, even if I was an army commander I would not be putting them in the front line because they would have no experience whatsoever. "

Islamic Friendship Association of Australia spokesman Keysar Trad, who believed Sheikh Al Majzoub was in the province of Latakia at the time of his death, also dismissed suggestions he was involved in fighting as "far fetched".

"Some sort of a rocket was fired on his town from about 50 kilometres away by the Syrian regime soldiers, indiscriminately shelling his town and he was killed, unfortunately," he said.

"A man of the cloth whose mission in life is to bring peace to those around him and attend to their spiritual needs was mercilessly killed by the dying Assad regime."

The NSW counter-terrorism command would most likely be keeping a close eye on the situation, given its potential to further inflame simmering tensions between Sydney's Sunni and Shiite communities over the Syrian conflict.
Mr Dandan said Sheikh Al Majzoub was respected in the community as a moderate, and for his work with Australia's Muslim youth.

"He was quite a family man, a loving father. He cared a lot for what is happening in Syria," he said.
In January, Sheikh Al Majzoub addressed a Bankstown protest rally in support of the Syrian uprising against the regime of Bashar al-Assad, speaking about the need to support the oppressed anywhere in the world, in particular Syria.

In his final Facebook post on August 3, he wrote that he had learnt not to judge a man by appearances of strength, "rather judge him by his steadfastness at calamities and on the battlefields".

"I met brothers here who from the first instance you might think they are too merciful or weak (due to the way they treat other Muslims), however on the battlefields they are lions that roar," he said.

Sheikh Al Majzoub taught at the Unity Grammar College in Austral, an Islamic school, until earlier this year.
Its principal, Walid Ali, said he was committed to his teaching and to his students, who along with staff were shocked at the news.

"He was a really jovial person ... very committed to his teaching, very committed to the boys and girls under his care, and just a really positive role model for others," he said. "He will be very much missed by all those who know him."


Read more: http://www.smh.com.a...l#ixzz24BBUZNlC

I have pray behind the Sheikh many times and have heard his khutabas on many many occasion he is a massive lose to Muslim community in Australia and he has left a massive shoe behind.

But his presence and shahadat in Syria is evidence of the fact that its not some conspiracy led by western forces but rather how evil the Syrian regime is to its own people.