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[rungroot]

Considering the interesting (not to mention, dangerous) times that we live in, I think it would be wise of us to listen and listen very carefully to the likes of the learned Sheikh Imran Hosein and plan our lives accordingly.  Since this PDF FORUM is a meeting point the thousands of us, I have started this thread to post his lectures.   MODS, please pin this thread if you don't mind.

The Sufi, the Salafi and the Aakhir uz Zaman:

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The Future Of Islam In India, Pakistan & Bangladesh By Sheikh Imran Hosein
& The Next India-Pakistan War.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBfq6PsT3yM

[SUPARCO]

Salaam,

Another doomsayer.

I've heard his Bayans in the past. He's full of rubbish.  Just another version of Zaid Hamid of Arabia.

Salaam

[Ghias]

SUPARCO, on 08 June 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

Salaam,

Another doomsayer.

I've heard his Bayans in the past. He's full of rubbish.  Just another version of Zaid Hamid of Arabia.

Salaam

True, the guy is a nutter. Everyone of his predictions are ridiculous to the point of being hilarious despite the fact that he basis them on hadiths. His interpretation of the hadiths and his solutions to the problems facing the Muslim world are laughable. Muslim villages with 20-30 Muslim families living without any modern facilities of life, outside mobile coverage? Wow what a solution. He is even against Pakistan and its creation, Quad-e-Azam and Allama Iqbal. I consider him the same as Congressi Mullahs of 1930s to 1947. People like Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad etc.
A Russian led alliance is going to fight an American led alliance? Russia didn’t even fight US for itself, why would it fight for its proxies? Both Us and Russia are not fools to get into a direct conflict. And not to forget, Russia is Gog and America is Mgog. Wooohooo!! Now everything is settled!!

[rungroot]

Ghias, on 08 June 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

True, the guy is a nutter. Everyone of his predictions are ridiculous to the point of being hilarious despite the fact that he basis them on hadiths. His interpretation of the hadiths and his solutions to the problems facing the Muslim world are laughable. Muslim villages with 20-30 Muslim families living without any modern facilities of life, outside mobile coverage? Wow what a solution. He is even against Pakistan and its creation, Quad-e-Azam and Allama Iqbal. I consider him the same as Congressi Mullahs of 1930s to 1947. People like Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad etc.
A Russian led alliance is going to fight an American led alliance? Russia didn’t even fight US for itself, why would it fight for its proxies? Both Us and Russia are not fools to get into a direct conflict. And not to forget, Russia is Gog and America is Mgog. Wooohooo!! Now everything is settled!!

Well you're free to believe the traditional interpretation of the dayhaati mullahs that gog magog are furious midgets with large elephant like ears who constantly keep trying to break down the barrier built by zul qarnain by slapping their ears against it.  After all, It's a very practical and real time interpretation compared to the rubbish sheikh Imran Hosain says.

[rungroot]

SUPARCO, on 08 June 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

Salaam,

Another doomsayer.

I've heard his Bayans in the past. He's full of rubbish.  Just another version of Zaid Hamid of Arabia.

Salaam

Uhm, yeeeeeeah, so....he's not an arab, he's from Trinidad, his parents are from pre partition  india.

Not everything he says is correct and he is the first to say this.  And they are not predictions, they are interpretations on the predictions made by Rasool Allah PBUH.  But you can feel free to believe in the traditional interpretation that dajjal will be a man with literally one eye flying literally on a gigantic donkey with huge ears.  Best of luck with that.

[Ababeel]

I personally dont agree with Sheikh Imran Hosein on quite a few points, but I believe some of his points are very much valid.

Secondly, he himself ask people not to blindly take his words or follow his opinion unless one is fully convinced himself.

Thus far I have not seen any scholarly point to point response to Imran Hosein writings from any Islamic scholar whatsoever.

The only thing that came out was a youtube video link posted here on PDF a while back of some Abu Mussab Akkari fellow, but it was a dismall attempt to discredit Imran Hosein & nothing more!! There was no scholarly point to point response to Imran Hosein opinions in those videos. Rather it was a pathetic attemp not even worth mentioning here.

It would have been nice to see a good scholarly response to Imran Hosein opinions rather than regurgitation of old traditional views, it could have started a genuine quest to further advance knowledge. Rather we find thus far there has been no credible response from Islamic Scholarship other than vehemently sticking to old traditional opinions.

[Ghias]

rungroot, on 09 June 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

Well you're free to believe the traditional interpretation of the dayhaati mullahs that gog magog are furious midgets with large elephant like ears who constantly keep trying to break down the barrier built by zul qarnain by slapping their ears against it.  After all, It's a very practical and real time interpretation compared to the rubbish sheikh Imran Hosain says.

rungroot my brother, whatever or whoever Gog Mgog are I don’t know, but I do know that they are not USA and Russia. USA is not even going to survive that long into the future. I predict that we are going to see different states breaking away from the federation to become independent countries in our lifetime. I am definitely not one of those people who have been predicting for US to fall since 9/11. I have only come to this conclusion recently, as recently as this year in fact. The only reason that country is together and the states accept the federation is because of economics. There is nothing else keeping it together. If even today a situation can arise that makes Mike Mullen say to his troops in Afghanistan that he didn’t know if they were going to get their paychecks or not, you can imagine what lies 10-20 years down the line. If Congress had not raised the debt ceiling from $14.3 trillion, the revenue on hand would not have been able to pay any past bills and meet the obligations to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, defense, interest on the debt, vendor payments, Labor, Commerce and unemployment insurance etc. Imagine if that had happened, there would eventually have been riots everywhere. If you can’t pay the police and the army and can’t give any funds for social security, why would the country not fall into pieces? I expect riots, mob rule, loot and plunder, total chaos, total breakdown of law and order and eventually declaration of independence by different states, wherever that may lead to is up to the circumstances. I believe we are going to see this in our lifetime. So US cannot be Gog or Mgog. Sorry.


Ab reh gya Russia, Imran Hosein himself thinks that Russia is referred to as Rome in an end time hadith that is going to form an alliance with the Muslims. Why would Prophet SAW at one point refer to Russia as Rome and at another point call them Gog or Mgog? It doesn’t make any sense. Gog and Mgog have their own specific history; there is no way Russia can be either of them. Russians are free to do whatever they like to do in the world. If Russia is Gog or Mgog then you would have to say that Gog or Mgog were unleashed not only in WW2, but also during the cold war and the recent Georgian -Russian war. Gog and Mgog also got their asses whopped in Afghanistan by mujahideen with ISI and CIA support. These things just don’t add up. Apply the same formula to US as well, Gog or Mgog are apparently getting their behinds handed to them on a platter by a rag tag chappal wearing militia. They also got humiliated and kicked out of Vietnam. Oh and apparently Gog and Mgog were unleashed with full force onto the world in WW2. So conclusion, Russia or US cannot be Gog or Mgog. Sorry again.

[rungroot]

Ghias bro, gog and magog are not nations but the tribes that a certain ethnicity emerged from.  Most probably Caucasians.  Now, are all Caucasians today are gog n magog? Of course not.  But the point still remains that when Allah says that he will release them and they wreak havoc on earth, it is symbolic meaning that this particular ethnicity will be given the reigns of power and influence in the world and they will wreak havoc until Allah destroys them.  So it may or may not the u.s. Or Russia in the further, but it will definitely be the same ethnicity that originated from the afore mentioned tribes.

[Ghias]

rungroot, on 10 June 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

Ghias bro, gog and magog are not nations but the tribes that a certain ethnicity emerged from.  Most probably Caucasians.  Now, are all Caucasians today are gog n magog? Of course not.  But the point still remains that when Allah says that he will release them and they wreak havoc on earth, it is symbolic meaning that this particular ethnicity will be given the reigns of power and influence in the world and they will wreak havoc until Allah destroys them.  So it may or may not the u.s. Or Russia in the further, but it will definitely be the same ethnicity that originated from the afore mentioned tribes.

Bro, if that is the case then haven’t they been unleashed already? Since about 1600-1700 till date? Haven’t they been wrecking havoc on the world? Are they not the most powerful and influential people in the world? Are the Caucasians not wealthy and powerful where ever they are in the world? From US to Australia to UK, no one has comparable power. In fact, in today’s world we can say that at least the Muslims have some on the surface free countries like the Arab countries and Pakistan and Indonesia Malaysia etc. At least we have the bomb today. At least we have some power and hope for the future. In the 1800s onwards, especially in the early 1900s, the whole world was colonized by these Caucasians. They had complete dominance over the whole world. But from Islamic sources we find that Gog and Mgog are going to be released after the arrival of Hazrat Esa AS. The white people have seen their rise and are now headed towards a decline. I find it hard to imagine that they are going to have any more influence in the world than they once had. If they are Gog and Mgog then Hazrat Esa AS should have been here in the late 1800s-early to mid 1900s when they were unleashed on the world in full force.

[rungroot]

Ghias, on 10 June 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

Bro, if that is the case then haven’t they been unleashed already? Since about 1600-1700 till date? Haven’t they been wrecking havoc on the world? Are they not the most powerful and influential people in the world? Are the Caucasians not wealthy and powerful where ever they are in the world? From US to Australia to UK, no one has comparable power. In fact, in today’s world we can say that at least the Muslims have some on the surface free countries like the Arab countries and Pakistan and Indonesia Malaysia etc. At least we have the bomb today. At least we have some power and hope for the future. In the 1800s onwards, especially in the early 1900s, the whole world was colonized by these Caucasians. They had complete dominance over the whole world. But from Islamic sources we find that Gog and Mgog are going to be released after the arrival of Hazrat Esa AS. The white people have seen their rise and are now headed towards a decline. I find it hard to imagine that they are going to have any more influence in the world than they once had. If they are Gog and Mgog then Hazrat Esa AS should have been here in the late 1800s-early to mid 1900s when they were unleashed on the world in full force.

No, Hadrat Isa AS will be informed of the release of the gog magog, there is a difference. As per the ahadith that warn the Arab people of immense suffering and slaughter.

Zainab-bint-Jahsh says: "Once the Prophet ﻢﻠﺳو ﻰﻠﺻ ﷲ ﻪﻴﻠﻋ awoke from such a sleep that his face was red and uttering the following words with his tongue, ' There is none worthy of worship but Allah. Destruction is upon the Arabs due to the evil which has come close to them. Today, a hole has been opened in the barrier (wall) of Ya’juj and Ma’juj, like this ', and he made a circle with his index finger and thumb indicating the size of the hole." (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)

So you see, the destruction of the barrier had already begun 1400 years ago.  A good portion of them if not all have already been released.

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Imran Hosein is correct on some issues... & some others I differ with him. He doesn't say follow my ideas blindly... Most are social political opinions and interpretations of his according to the last days...

[rungroot]

The Sunni Shia divide and aakhiruzzaman

[HKK]

He has got some interesting ideas on the subject of Dajjal and his followers (zionist/freemasons/illuminate etc) but what I sense, being someone orginally from the land now called india, he cannot comprehend the idea of "Gazwa-e-hind" and dismiss the idea that it would be Pakistan who will be taking on the india in this upcoming war. His "indianness" is clouding his judgement. He claimed that since Pakistan army hasnt claimed themselves as "mujahids" , it is "non-sense" to beleive that they are the ones who will fight this Ghazwa. Without going into details that Pakistan army official motto is "Jihad Fe Sabellillah", would a true mujahid go around beating around the bush seeking attention that hey look at me, I am a mujahid!!
But atleast he has made some progress from being completely dismissive of Gazwa-e-hind, he has moved on to dismiss Pakistan as the country who will fight this battle. but if it is not Pakistan and its armed forces, is it Banglis, Srilankans, nepalies, bhutanis, or rag tag talibans/persians who btw are not even neighbours of india. These nations that I mentioned may have some eternal animosity with india which would lead them to war with "nuclear" india!! Surily it all hunky dory between Pakistan and india since 47, so how come it would be Pakistan and its armed forces figting out this Ghazwa!!

[Ghias]

HKK, on 11 June 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

He has got some interesting ideas on the subject of Dajjal and his followers (zionist/freemasons/illuminate etc) but what I sense, being someone orginally from the land now called india, he cannot comprehend the idea of "Gazwa-e-hind" and dismiss the idea that it would be Pakistan who will be taking on the india in this upcoming war. His "indianness" is clouding his judgement. He claimed that since Pakistan army hasnt claimed themselves as "mujahids" , it is "non-sense" to beleive that they are the ones who will fight this Ghazwa. Without going into details that Pakistan army official motto is "Jihad Fe Sabellillah", would a true mujahid go around beating around the bush seeking attention that hey look at me, I am a mujahid!!
But atleast he has made some progress from being completely dismissive of Gazwa-e-hind, he has moved on to dismiss Pakistan as the country who will fight this battle. but if it is not Pakistan and its armed forces, is it Banglis, Srilankans, nepalies, bhutanis, or rag tag talibans/persians who btw are not even neighbours of india. These nations that I mentioned may have some eternal animosity with india which would lead them to war with "nuclear" india!! Surily it all hunky dory between Pakistan and india since 47, so how come it would be Pakistan and its armed forces figting out this Ghazwa!!

An apt diagnosis. It coincides with my idea of lumping him along with fellows like Abul Kalam Azad and his chumps. According to him, "creation of Pakisan was a debacle and it inflicted immense damage on the Ummah of Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu ‘alaihi wa sallam)." These are direct quotes from his book "Iqbal and Pakistan's Moment of Truth". He has no idea of the true basis of Pakistan and calls the Pakistan movement an "illegitimate struggle" and a "nationalist movement" which has no place in Muslim political culture. So his aversion to Pakistan is natural.

PS. I know he studied in Pakistan. Thousands of Muslims who don’t like the west die to study in their universities. Studying in a country doesn’t imply that you have any respect or recognition for that particular country.

[rungroot]

Dreams And Visions In Islam By Sheikh Imran Hosein

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The Return Of Nabi Isa A.S By Sheikh Imran Hosein

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Dajjal And Symbolism In Akhirulzaman By Sheikh Imran Hosein

[Dizasta]

Ghias, on 08 June 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

True, the guy is a nutter.

Dr. Imran Hosein has PHd in International Relations from the Graduate Institute of Geneva, Switzerland. He attended the well known Al-Azhar University Cairo, Egypt, for Islamic History, as well as Aleemiyah Institute Karachi, Pakistan for Post Graduate Diploma in Islamic Eschatology. He accomplished his Under-Graduate in Political Science from the University of West Indies, Port of Spain, Trinidad. And, he was the only Graduate from University of Karachi, Pakistan, who was among graduates from Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Oxford and Cambridge, in Geneva, who topped his. Surpassing all those arrogant Harvard, Cambridge graduates, who looked down on him, considering him someone beneath them, who is a Karachi University graduate that doesn't deserve to be in the same class as them.

So be very freakin careful, who you call a nutter. He is knowledgeable the perhaps every single person on this forum and he is also my mentor.

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Everyone of his predictions are ridiculous to the point of being hilarious despite the fact that he basis them on hadiths.

15 years ago, Dr. Imran Hosein wrote two books (among several), 'The Prohibition of Riba in the Qur'an and Sunnah' and 'The Importance of the Prohibition of Riba in Islam'. In these books, his analysis (not predictions) were that the U.S Dollar would collapse against Gold. Back then, the year 1997, the price of Gold traded at $331/Troy-Oz (http://www.nma.org/p...gold_prices.pdf). Today the price of Gold is $1584/Troy-Oz.

In 2003, Dr. Imran Hosein gave his analysis which anticipated the so-called Arab Springs, which erupted in December 2010. He went on to explain that the primary entity for the West is Israel and it is based priority of Israel, that the Western policies have been shaped. Also, that these regimes, who were Pro-Western (Egypt, Syria, Libya & etc), would be toppled and would give the impression that the Islamic World is rising.

This analysis is based on the Israel Centric strategic planning of the West. It is also based on the clear and obvious fact that Israel will attempt successfully, to destroy, or make it look like a structural collapse, of Masjid Al-Aqsa and the Dome of Rock. This the Israelis would do, in order to build their Temple Mount, known to Zionists as the Temple of Solomon. And in order to do so, Israel and the West anticipate a raging military response from its neighboring Arab States. These Arab States, primarily Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt have little or no military superiority over Israel. These very Arab States would witness a power change of hands from Pro-Western dictators (Saddam, Ghaddafi, Asaad and Mubarak) to staunch Islamic Governments or Sectarian Majority Governments which are hostile toward Israel.

Everyone, including numbskulls that think they known everything, have witnessed how the Muslim Brotherhood has risen to power, after decades of repression and crackdown by the Pro-Western Mubarak government. Similar thing will happen in Libya and Syria. These are all signs which have been identified by Dr. Imran Hosein and which is why he has given his analysis on what will happen. Mind you, as educated Muslim, he knows and declares (unlike idiot Muslim leaders and mullahs around the world), that this is his analysis, however Allah knows best.

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His interpretation of the hadiths and his solutions to the problems facing the Muslim world are laughable. Muslim villages with 20-30 Muslim families living without any modern facilities of life, outside mobile coverage? Wow what a solution. He is even against Pakistan and its creation, Quad-e-Azam and Allama Iqbal. I consider him the same as Congressi Mullahs of 1930s to 1947. People like Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad etc.

If you have read the Hadeeth regarding the Age of Fitna, Dajjal and End Time, then you would know that Dajjal's rule would be unchallenged and any power who rose to challenge the Dajjals (powerful western states which follow the godlessness that Dajjal represents), they would be defeated. You have seen that in Iraq, who was depicted as having the fourth largest army in the world, was destroyed by Western Military machine. The Afghans who are famous for defeating all invaders, including the British and the Russians, have been invaded and occupied by US-NATO forces for the last 10 years. You have seen Libya destroyed by war of a short war that was spearheaded by Western Military. Now you will see Syria destroyed by the same Western Military, that has remained undefeated since Second World War.

Based on these historical facts and what the Hadeeth has revealed about Dajjal, Dr. Imran Hosein has given his analysis, that to exist as Muslims who practice their faith devoutly, would have to form Muslim villages, if they wish to remain unharmed. The idea is, the smaller you are, the less of a threat you would be to the Godless Western savages.

And as for his remarks concerning Pakistan, I don't think you or any Pakistani is in a position to talk. Especially when 180 million Pakistanis are being ruled by a criminal, thief, murderer, traitor and a kafir zardari and his corrupt associates. When the mighty Pakistan Military is being humiliated when the US-NATO forces kill hundreds in Drone-Strikes IN Pakistani TERRITORY, KILLING Pakistani CITIZENS. Where Pakistan's Nuclear Arsenal does not hold any deterrence value in the face of Pakistani Soldiers being beheaded by impostors who claim to be fighting for Islam, but are essentially kafir-terrorists who're sponsored by US-NATO alliance in Afghanistan.

Regarding Dr. Imran Hosein's views of our revered Muhtarum Allama Iqbal,  you would be interested in knowing, that Dr. Imran Hosein's mentor and teacher, Dr Fazal-ur-Rahman Ansari, was also a student of Allama Iqbal. So any of his views about revered Allama Iqbal, are purely from an intellectual critique and not a defamation of an honored Poet and Philosopher par-excellence. I have personally spent time with Dr. Imran Hosein (being a close family friend) and have heard countless times, him repeating Allama Iqbal's poetry. He has always admired and has been impressed with Allama Iqbal's foresight and depth in thinking.

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A Russian led alliance is going to fight an American led alliance? Russia didn’t even fight US for itself, why would it fight for its proxies? Both Us and Russia are not fools to get into a direct conflict. And not to forget, Russia is Gog and America is Mgog. Wooohooo!! Now everything is settled!!

American Anti-Ballistic Missile Defense network which is being established in Europe, Middle East and Far East, is a major issue and provocation by the West against Russia. And Russia has minced no words about it's anger at the ABM defense network being set up, encircling Russia and threatening to displace the balance of power vis-a-vis Russia and the West.

Russia's roaring response to the Georgian War and its warnings to the West in not even thinking about interfering in the dispute.

Russia's main and only base in the Crimea, that houses the Black Sea Fleet, has been under constant threat of closure by the Pro-Western Ukrainian Government. Leaving Russia completely cut off from the Black Sea, Aegean Sea and the Mediterranean Sea, as well as the Middle East.

These are some the issues which will in one way or another force Russia to react. The first signs of which came when Russian President Vladimir Putin did not attend the G-8 Summit in Chicago, instead choosing to attend the SCO Summit in China. Showing what Putin considers priority and what he thinks of the West.

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Brother Ghias, I would appreciate greatly, if you would show some respect to my mentor and teacher. However, I do not want you to back away from your disagreement or criticism of Dr. Imran Hosein. Please do criticize, analyse and post your remarks. But do it in a manner which reflects decency and intelligence.

Regards,

Mujahid Achakzai

[HKK]

Dizasta, on 26 June 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:

And as for his remarks concerning Pakistan, I don't think you or any Pakistani is in a position to talk. Especially when 180 million Pakistanis are being ruled by a criminal, thief, murderer, traitor and a kafir zardari and his corrupt associates. When the mighty Pakistan Military is being humiliated when the US-NATO forces kill hundreds in Drone-Strikes IN Pakistani TERRITORY, KILLING Pakistani CITIZENS. Where Pakistan's Nuclear Arsenal does not hold any deterrence value in the face of Pakistani Soldiers being beheaded by impostors who claim to be fighting for Islam, but are essentially kafir-terrorists who're sponsored by US-NATO alliance in Afghanistan.

Next time you see him in any capacity, ask him about three things:

1) Gazaw-e-hind. who he think will fight it, if it is not Pakistan and its armed forces. From Straits of Malaka to the western shores of Africa, who he think is the most powerful muslim nation militarily, capability wise?
2) Ask him about ten lost tribes of isreal and their return. Judging by your surname, you should be interested in this subject.
3) What if the corrupt few at top are removed with Allah fearing people in Pakistan. Then what? After all, the prophecy is for future.

PS. I presonally enjoy listening to his reasons and interpretation about the subject of Dajjal and his followers but when he comes to the subject of Pakistan, his indianness jumps in and start to cloud his judgement and the reasoning based on ground realities and other factors goes out of window and we endup hearing rather naive arguments from him such as how army who doesnt claim to be mujahid will fight gazwa-e-hind!

[rungroot]

People, he is a human being and he does NOT make any prophecies.  He only makes educated guesses as to what could possibly happen based on historical facts and religious facts like the Quran and the ahadith on what could politically and strategically happen .  Our entire media, every news anchor and there grand ma out there are making educated guesses as to what could happen, nothing wrong with that.  

And he has no indianness yaar, he had been extra harsh on india calling them the biggest zionist stooge after america.  He has been particularly harsh on indian Muslims stating that if they don't get their act together and fast, they will be slaughtered whole sale by what he calls zionist hindus.  He also admits that he is not always right and that we should correct him with evidence and I do believe that he has made a few errors not just about Pakistan but also regarding some sects and fiqhs, like how he ruthlessly comes down extra harsh on salafis, but hey, what're ya gonna do, he is a human being and can make mistakes.

[Dizasta]

HKK, on 26 June 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Next time you see him in any capacity, ask him about three things:

1) Gazaw-e-hind. who he think will fight it, if it is not Pakistan and its armed forces. From Straits of Malaka to the western shores of Africa, who he think is the most powerful muslim nation militarily, capability wise?
2) Ask him about ten lost tribes of isreal and their return. Judging by your surname, you should be interested in this subject.
3) What if the corrupt few at top are removed with Allah fearing people in Pakistan. Then what? After all, the prophecy is for future.

Yes HKK, I will be sure to do that, Insha-Allah!

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PS. I presonally enjoy listening to his reasons and interpretation about the subject of Dajjal and his followers but when he comes to the subject of Pakistan, his indianness jumps in and start to cloud his judgement and the reasoning based on ground realities and other factors goes out of window and we endup hearing rather naive arguments from him such as how army who doesnt claim to be mujahid will fight gazwa-e-hind!

It seems that there is a lot you don't know about Dr. Imran Hosein. To start off with, he doesn't claim to be indian, nor does he associate himself with india. I mean can you imagine, you brother Dizasta, having a mentor who's pro-indian? Not at all, Dr. Imran Hosein's mentor was a Pakistani scholar par-excellence, Dr. Fazal-ur-Rahman Ansari (who wrote the Educational Section of the Constitution of Pakistan). Also, he studied in Pakistan, married a Pakistani, lived in Pakistan and his children are Pakistani. So I can assure you, that he is not pro-indian in any way, shape or form.

Dr. Imran Hosein is, however, extremely critical of the state of Pakistan, the attitude of Pakistanis in general and the non-existence of the will to stand up and fight against traitors who are destroying Pakistan. He was the only one who saw Musharraf for what he really is and pointed out several times to Pakistanis, who were at that time, very much convinced that Musharraf was the savior they have all been waiting for. Little did they know, that Musharraf would betray Pakistan, like none other have done before.

On a personal note, he has stated that when Imran Khan wins the elections and becomes the leader of Pakistan. That he would travel to Pakistan particularly for this occasion. Also, that his general focus now, is shifting toward Pakistan and intends to come to the country, once his lecture tours, tv-programs and appointments with certain people are confirmed. He shall also be my guest, Insha-Allah, when he comes and I am making arrangements for all of his lectures, documentaries and books to be translated in Pushto.

[Dizasta]

rungroot, on 26 June 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

People, he is a human being and he does NOT make any prophecies.  He only makes educated guesses as to what could possibly happen based on historical facts and religious facts like the Quran and the ahadith on what could politically and strategically happen .  Our entire media, every news anchor and there grand ma out there are making educated guesses as to what could happen, nothing wrong with that.  

And he has no indianness yaar, he had been extra harsh on india calling them the biggest zionist stooge after america.  He has been particularly harsh on indian Muslims stating that if they don't get their act together and fast, they will be slaughtered whole sale by what he calls zionist hindus.  He also admits that he is not always right and that we should correct him with evidence and I do believe that he has made a few errors not just about Pakistan but also regarding some sects and fiqhs, like how he ruthlessly comes down extra harsh on salafis, but hey, what're ya gonna do, he is a human being and can make mistakes.

Exactly, this is what I have been trying to point out time and time again. A scholar who has the courage and honor to admit that he can make mistakes and declares it to all of his audiences that if he makes a mistake, then point it out to him. Man of such a caliber, humility would do wonders for Pakistan, if he were ever its leader. We need people who're honest, intelligent, intuitive and have the courage to stand up for what they believe in.

Imran Khan, irrespective of what he may be in his personal life, has the guts to stand up for what is right and dispenses with being politically correct. His approach toward what is happening in Pakistan, seems genuinely in line with what the ground realities are in the country. Imran's recent interview with Julian Assange on RT, is prime example of how Imran Khan is not afraid to speak out the truth.

[rungroot]

Dizasta, on 26 June 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Exactly, this is what I have been trying to point out time and time again. A scholar who has the courage and honor to admit that he can make mistakes and declares it to all of his audiences that if he makes a mistake, then point it out to him. Man of such a caliber, humility would do wonders for Pakistan, if he were ever its leader. We need people who're honest, intelligent, intuitive and have the courage to stand up for what they believe in.

Imran Khan, irrespective of what he may be in his personal life, has the guts to stand up for what is right and dispenses with being politically correct. His approach toward what is happening in Pakistan, seems genuinely in line with what the ground realities are in the country. Imran's recent interview with Julian Assange on RT, is prime example of how Imran Khan is not afraid to speak out the truth.

Brother, I'm in if you're in. You're a Pakistani pukhtoon and I'm Pakistani urdu speaking, both of us would gladly lay down and give our lives for 1 Allah and 1 Rasool without even flinching to think twice InshAllah. Both of us have the same convictions and have the courage to stand up for what we believe in. If that won't bring about a revolution of Islamic brotherhood in Pakistan then I don't know what will.

[rungroot]

HKK, on 26 June 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Next time you see him in any capacity, ask him about three things:

1) Gazaw-e-hind. who he think will fight it, if it is not Pakistan and its armed forces. From Straits of Malaka to the western shores of Africa, who he think is the most powerful muslim nation militarily, capability wise?
2) Ask him about ten lost tribes of isreal and their return. Judging by your surname, you should be interested in this subject.
3) What if the corrupt few at top are removed with Allah fearing people in Pakistan. Then what? After all, the prophecy is for future.

HKK Brother, I can't speak to 2 and 3 due to lack of knowledge on my part, but I can speak to number 1.  And I'm very sorry to say, that the way our generals are today (and you know what I'm talking about), them and the Military they lead cannot cannot cannot CANNOT be a part of something as holy as a GHAZWA!!!  A Ghazwa is not just a Jihad, it's MEGA Jihad (ooooh, I used the "J" word, uhoh, getmo here I come, LOL).  A Ghazwa is something that is being lead by none other than the Holy Prophet S.A.W. HIMSELF, do you really think that HE would give charge of the Ghazwa to generals as corrupt as ours?  I think not.  And I truly love my brothers in uniforms of all the three services like my own sons and it really hurts for to say this, but it is the truth.  Unless something changes the mentalities of our generals, air marshals and admirals (and I pray day and night that something does turn them all around) that turns them devoutly honest and spiritual and brave like the commanders of our forces during khulafa e rashideen, I'm afraid that the answer to your question 1 is a big fat NO!!!

[HKK]

I heard someone said that there are two things. Revolution and evolution. Revolution is rapid but its effects are temporary, while evolution is a slow process but its is permanent and everlasting. What people want in Pakistan is revolution, similar on the lines of so called Arab spring and we all know how that ended up in Syria , Libya and now Eygpt. They are burning their own houses down and the kafirs are clapping and laughing their heads off. Most revolutions in history were artificial or hijacked by "outside" forces.

We Pakistanis need to be patient while being steadfast towards the way of Allah. Winds of change are already blowing and only fools would not sense it. We are going through evolution.

It is naive to look down upon Pakistan and its people just because of the entranched ruling liberal elite. They are like cancer and just like cancer it will take time to cure Pakistan from them to ensure that they wont raise their ugly head ever again. An emergency surgery may be conunter productive.

Again, I would say that it is foolish to make judgement about Pakistan without looking into the capabilities of the nations, its inbred resiliance, its dynamic people and it may seems by the will of Allah, its non stop character of punching above it weight and taking on the power houses of kufar, be it india, former soviet union, and now yanks/isreal/india (the axis of evil). Our enemies are well defined and all happen to be kafirs while the rest of muslim world specially arabs are busy fighting among each other. More or less everything is in place for those who will be Allah fearing to take Pakistan where it is destined to. It is only matter of time. YET, the scholors like IH cannot see these realities about Pakistan.

True, I dont know much about IH personal life and I am not interested in someone else personal life. Views and believes are more important to me. His analysis of Pakistan is very narrow, based on the who is rulling Pakistan now while ignoring other factors and realities. He claims to be a spiritual person yet it seems he is not aware of the spiritual dimension of Pakistan.

I may be wrong about IH but based on my personal obervations (half of my relatives are still in india), indian muslims have some misplaced, i wont use the word hatred, but rather jealousy towards Pakistan. I will not go into the reasons as to why but I just sense it is the same case with IH.

I would like to emphasis again that I do admire his work on the subject of Dajjal , its system/followers but when it comes to Pakistan, which by the looks of it should be central to his expertise, i.e subject of Dajjal, he fires blank. In urdu we say "Baghal main bacha aur shyhar main dhandoora".

[Dizasta]

HKK, on 27 June 2012 - 05:34 AM, said:

I heard someone said that there are two things. Revolution and evolution. Revolution is rapid but its effects are temporary, while evolution is a slow process but its is permanent and everlasting. What people want in Pakistan is revolution, similar on the lines of so called Arab spring and we all know how that ended up in Syria , Libya and now Eygpt. They are burning their own houses down and the kafirs are clapping and laughing their heads off. Most revolutions in history were artificial or hijacked by "outside" forces.

Indeed, this is true, but the real question is why are the People of Pakistan not united? Why is it that the People of Pakistan are still embroiled in sectarian violence and are plagued by deep ethnic divide?

These questions are relevant, if Pakistanis desire revolution, or shall I say, should desire and strive for evolution. For the fundamental flaws which afflict Pakistani Society, are the reason why Pakistan is in the state that it is in.

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We Pakistanis need to be patient while being steadfast towards the way of Allah. Winds of change are already blowing and only fools would not sense it. We are going through evolution.

Dr. Imran Hosein, myself and the rest of Pakistan sure do hope that it does come to fruition.

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It is naive to look down upon Pakistan and its people just because of the entranched ruling liberal elite. They are like cancer and just like cancer it will take time to cure Pakistan from them to ensure that they wont raise their ugly head ever again. An emergency surgery may be conunter productive.

Again, I would say that it is foolish to make judgement about Pakistan without looking into the capabilities of the nations, its inbred resiliance, its dynamic people and it may seems by the will of Allah, its non stop character of punching above it weight and taking on the power houses of kufar, be it india, former soviet union, and now yanks/isreal/india (the axis of evil). Our enemies are well defined and all happen to be kafirs while the rest of muslim world specially arabs are busy fighting among each other. More or less everything is in place for those who will be Allah fearing to take Pakistan where it is destined to. It is only matter of time. YET, the scholors like IH cannot see these realities about Pakistan.

My dear brother, what Dr. Imran Hosein sees is that 180 million Pakistanis have consistently failed to grasp the all important aspect of unity. Since it is with unity, that the People of Pakistan can permanently remove the corruption which plagues the country. From the jahil feudal system, to the criminal politicians, to the  Pakistani addiction to bollywood, to the negligence of the education system and the typical Pakistani mentality that someone will come and save Pakistan.

One cannot ignore the fact that Iran hasn't been touched by the West, since the majority of Iranians are united under one flag, the flag of Iran. Whereas Pakistanis are divided among the flags of PPP, MQM, PML-N, JUI and every other flag under the sun in Pakistan. Also, Pakistanis can learn of the value of unity, from Iraq, where the West exploited the Shia-Sunni divide. With Saddam and his government were Sunni, while the overwhelming majority of the country were Shiahs and ethnic Kurds. This was used to good use when the West invaded the country and destroyed it. The same happened in Afghanistan, where majority of the country is Pukhtun, Sunni and were fighting against the Shiah Farsawanis of the Northern Alliance. The West exploited this to their advantage and invaded the country, occupying it for a decade now.

In Syria, the ruling elite are Alawite Shias, while the majority population is Sunni and this is what the West is exploiting to destroy the country from within. While in Libya, the feudal culture never was rooted out and there are many clans, tribes and sub-ethnic groups which wanted what Ghaddafi carved out for himself. And Egypt, the other divide is where the ruling elite (Mubarak) were secularist and against Islamic fundamentalism. These are all the divides that the West has exploited for the past decade, to destroy countries at will, with infiltration and sabotage. While capitalizing on the fact that their installed or permitted dictatorships, monarchies and sheikdoms, are in essence, corrupt, oppressors that have looted and plundered the wealth of the respective countries, for their own gain.

The lack of unity, the failure to recognize the importance of unity, the dismal record of neglecting Islam and as a consequence the emergence of jahil mullahs who've given Islamic Scholarship a bad name in Pakistan. These are all our flaws, our doing, it is us Pakistanis who are responsible for the mess we are in. That's because we are self-centered and egoistic. Where a Sindhi would prioritize its own ethnic group and promote their own people to government jobs, regardless if they are qualified/educated enough or not. The same goes for the remaining ethnic groups, including the MQM, who only do stuff in Karachi, provided the credit goes to them. It is this jahil, feudal mentality which angers Dr. Imran Hosein, because it is this mentality which has us Pakistanis ignoring the SINGLE DENOMINATING FACTOR ON WHICH Pakistan WAS CREATED, ISLAM.

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True, I dont know much about IH personal life and I am not interested in someone else personal life. Views and believes are more important to me. His analysis of Pakistan is very narrow, based on the who is rulling Pakistan now while ignoring other factors and realities. He claims to be a spiritual person yet it seems he is not aware of the spiritual dimension of Pakistan.

Brother, you have the right to your views and I respect your views. Dr. Imran Hosein himself says it, if he is making a mistake or if you disagree with his views, do approach him on it. However, do so, with an intellectually motivated will and not due to some ethnically charged, or nationalistic fervor. As he would only discuss the issue with, on the grounds of what Islam has to say on the subject.

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I may be wrong about IH but based on my personal obervations (half of my relatives are still in india), indian muslims have some misplaced, i wont use the word hatred, but rather jealousy towards Pakistan. I will not go into the reasons as to why but I just sense it is the same case with IH.

I would like to emphasis again that I do admire his work on the subject of Dajjal , its system/followers but when it comes to Pakistan, which by the looks of it should be central to his expertise, i.e subject of Dajjal, he fires blank. In urdu we say "Baghal main bacha aur shyhar main dhandoora".

Dr. Imran Hosein has admitted to me, on several occasions, that he has not given Pakistan the attention it deserves. Which is also the reason why he will be undertaking an extensive tour of Pakistan and has that his focus is increasing toward Pakistan and its people. He has also said in his defense, that the subjects that he has dealt with in the past, like Riba in Islam, Islamic Eschatology and etc, are so extensive and dynamic, that he has had little or no time to divert his attention to Pakistan. However, has his research work on Islamic Eschatology progressed, his research has increasingly pointed toward Pakistan, in that context. Which is why he feels, that now it is time for his work to shed light on Pakistan, from Islam's point of view.

[Dizasta]

rungroot, on 26 June 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

Brother, I'm in if you're in. You're a Pakistani pukhtoon and I'm Pakistani urdu speaking, both of us would gladly lay down and give our lives for 1 Allah and 1 Rasool without even flinching to think twice InshAllah. Both of us have the same convictions and have the courage to stand up for what we believe in. If that won't bring about a revolution of Islamic brotherhood in Pakistan then I don't know what will.

Of course brother, I will be in contact with you, once all has been confirmed and you shall be invited to all of Dr. Imran Hosein's lectures, book-launches and etc, Insha-Allah!

[Ababeel]

Dizasta, on 26 June 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Dr. Imran Hosein's mentor was a Pakistani scholar par-excellence, Dr. Fazal-ur-Rahman Ansari (who wrote the Educational Section of the Constitution of Pakistan).

Is this the same Dr. Fazl-ur-Rahman? who along with Dr. Muhammad Hamidullah were invited by Ayub Khan to come to Pakistan and help contribute in developing an Islamic model in modern world for a state like Pakistan to follow?

[Dizasta]

Ababeel, on 27 June 2012 - 07:40 AM, said:

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Is this the same Dr. Fazl-ur-Rahman? who along with Dr. Muhammad Hamidullah were invited by Ayub Khan to come to Pakistan and help contribute in developing an Islamic model in modern world for a state like Pakistan to follow?

No brother, his full name is Dr. Muhammad Fazal-ur-Rahman Ansari. He had no association or interest in politics at all.

[HKK]

Dizasta, on 27 June 2012 - 07:14 AM, said:

Indeed, this is true, but the real question is why are the People of Pakistan not united? Why is it that the People of Pakistan are still embroiled in sectarian violence and are plagued by deep ethnic divide?

These questions are relevant, if Pakistanis desire revolution, or shall I say, should desire and strive for evolution. For the fundamental flaws which afflict Pakistani Society, are the reason why Pakistan is in the state that it is in.



Dr. Imran Hosein, myself and the rest of Pakistan sure do hope that it does come to fruition.



My dear brother, what Dr. Imran Hosein sees is that 180 million Pakistanis have consistently failed to grasp the all important aspect of unity. Since it is with unity, that the People of Pakistan can permanently remove the corruption which plagues the country. From the jahil feudal system, to the criminal politicians, to the  Pakistani addiction to bollywood, to the negligence of the education system and the typical Pakistani mentality that someone will come and save Pakistan.

One cannot ignore the fact that Iran hasn't been touched by the West, since the majority of Iranians are united under one flag, the flag of Iran. Whereas Pakistanis are divided among the flags of PPP, MQM, PML-N, JUI and every other flag under the sun in Pakistan. Also, Pakistanis can learn of the value of unity, from Iraq, where the West exploited the Shia-Sunni divide. With Saddam and his government were Sunni, while the overwhelming majority of the country were Shiahs and ethnic Kurds. This was used to good use when the West invaded the country and destroyed it. The same happened in Afghanistan, where majority of the country is Pukhtun, Sunni and were fighting against the Shiah Farsawanis of the Northern Alliance. The West exploited this to their advantage and invaded the country, occupying it for a decade now.

In Syria, the ruling elite are Alawite Shias, while the majority population is Sunni and this is what the West is exploiting to destroy the country from within. While in Libya, the feudal culture never was rooted out and there are many clans, tribes and sub-ethnic groups which wanted what Ghaddafi carved out for himself. And Egypt, the other divide is where the ruling elite (Mubarak) were secularist and against Islamic fundamentalism. These are all the divides that the West has exploited for the past decade, to destroy countries at will, with infiltration and sabotage. While capitalizing on the fact that their installed or permitted dictatorships, monarchies and sheikdoms, are in essence, corrupt, oppressors that have looted and plundered the wealth of the respective countries, for their own gain.

The lack of unity, the failure to recognize the importance of unity, the dismal record of neglecting Islam and as a consequence the emergence of jahil mullahs who've given Islamic Scholarship a bad name in Pakistan. These are all our flaws, our doing, it is us Pakistanis who are responsible for the mess we are in. That's because we are self-centered and egoistic. Where a Sindhi would prioritize its own ethnic group and promote their own people to government jobs, regardless if they are qualified/educated enough or not. The same goes for the remaining ethnic groups, including the MQM, who only do stuff in Karachi, provided the credit goes to them. It is this jahil, feudal mentality which angers Dr. Imran Hosein, because it is this mentality which has us Pakistanis ignoring the SINGLE DENOMINATING FACTOR ON WHICH Pakistan WAS CREATED, ISLAM.




Brother, you have the right to your views and I respect your views. Dr. Imran Hosein himself says it, if he is making a mistake or if you disagree with his views, do approach him on it. However, do so, with an intellectually motivated will and not due to some ethnically charged, or nationalistic fervor. As he would only discuss the issue with, on the grounds of what Islam has to say on the subject.




Dr. Imran Hosein has admitted to me, on several occasions, that he has not given Pakistan the attention it deserves. Which is also the reason why he will be undertaking an extensive tour of Pakistan and has that his focus is increasing toward Pakistan and its people. He has also said in his defense, that the subjects that he has dealt with in the past, like Riba in Islam, Islamic Eschatology and etc, are so extensive and dynamic, that he has had little or no time to divert his attention to Pakistan. However, has his research work on Islamic Eschatology progressed, his research has increasingly pointed toward Pakistan, in that context. Which is why he feels, that now it is time for his work to shed light on Pakistan, from Islam's point of view.

Bro, problems in Pakistan, majority of them are created artificially by the ruling liberal elite. Be it sectarian or proventialism. Divide and rule. For example, both ANP and MQM are letting their workers kill each other and causing havoc in karachi but for some strange reason are part of the same government. We are only lacking true, genuine and Allah fearing leadership. Once that is in place, the rest will sort itself out. Mark my words, there are no major problems in Pakistan or its people.

I cannot understand as to why people like to focus on negativity while ignoring so much postive things about Pakistan. It is like trying to bring down the last fort of Islam. It is not the time for that, Pakistan must be strengthened from all muslim nations. Just like jews would go to any extent for the cause of Israel, muslisms should do the same for Pakistan, irrespective of their geographical locations. Its weeknesses should be dealth with in discretion away from praying eyes, while its power must be polished and projected to the world. I am not saying all this because I am Pakistani or I am baised towards my country, I simply cannot see any other muslim country who can hold the flag of Islam high in the face of onslaught by the hordes of kuffars.

If IH is intending to study Pakistan from the Islamic point of view, along with the three question I mentioned, if you get the chance, ask him to begin his study, not from 1947 , not from the time when Mohammad bin Qasim came to the shores of Sindh but I think he needs to go back in time when there was no babylon, no Eygpt but there was that ancient country called indus valley. I think he also needs to research the true identity of Zulqurnain which is in my humble opinon was not Cyrus the persian. I think all these are inter related to eschatology and I believe they are all related to this land that we now called Pakistan.


Some people beleive that Allah (SWT) raised Pakistan from the ashes of IVC, just for the sole purpose of taking on Dajjal, headon, and I presonally strongly beleive that.

[rungroot]

Dizasta, on 27 June 2012 - 07:26 AM, said:

Of course brother, I will be in contact with you, once all has been confirmed and you shall be invited to all of Dr. Imran Hosein's lectures, book-launches and etc, Insha-Allah!

okay so I was actually talking about stepping up to the plate as national leaders but that'll work too..  

[Dizasta]

rungroot, on 28 June 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

okay so I was actually talking about stepping up to the plate as national leaders but that'll work too..  

Leaders are those who understand the responsibility and enormity of the role, and don't really want the job. But we can certainly be those, who are the driving force for the honest, with Imaan, leaders. Allah alone knows how many of those we need and how many of dedicated, with Imaan and patriotic workers Imran Khan or someone better than him needs, to get Pakistan back on track to becoming a strong, united, self-sufficient, with Imaan, nation.

And yes of course brother, why not.

I, being a Pakistani Pukhtun, declare that you (rungroot) who is a Pakistani Urdu-Speaking are my friend and brother. Let Wali Khan and Altaf Hussain go jump in the Arabian Sea. We can show that all Pakistanis are made equal (except the corrupt, criminal, munafiq, traitors and thieves) and that we have every bit of goodness and Imaan in us, to show the rest of Pakistan and the rest of Muslim Ummah, that Islam triumphs over all races, ethnicities, cultures and languages.

When I next come to Karachi, I shall meet you brother, Insha-Allah!

[Dizasta]

HKK, on 27 June 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

Bro, problems in Pakistan, majority of them are created artificially by the ruling liberal elite. Be it sectarian or proventialism. Divide and rule. For example, both ANP and MQM are letting their workers kill each other and causing havoc in karachi but for some strange reason are part of the same government. We are only lacking true, genuine and Allah fearing leadership. Once that is in place, the rest will sort itself out. Mark my words, there are no major problems in Pakistan or its people.

I cannot understand as to why people like to focus on negativity while ignoring so much postive things about Pakistan. It is like trying to bring down the last fort of Islam. It is not the time for that, Pakistan must be strengthened from all muslim nations. Just like jews would go to any extent for the cause of Israel, muslisms should do the same for Pakistan, irrespective of their geographical locations. Its weeknesses should be dealth with in discretion away from praying eyes, while its power must be polished and projected to the world. I am not saying all this because I am Pakistani or I am baised towards my country, I simply cannot see any other muslim country who can hold the flag of Islam high in the face of onslaught by the hordes of kuffars.

If IH is intending to study Pakistan from the Islamic point of view, along with the three question I mentioned, if you get the chance, ask him to begin his study, not from 1947 , not from the time when Mohammad bin Qasim came to the shores of Sindh but I think he needs to go back in time when there was no babylon, no Eygpt but there was that ancient country called indus valley. I think he also needs to research the true identity of Zulqurnain which is in my humble opinon was not Cyrus the persian. I think all these are inter related to eschatology and I believe they are all related to this land that we now called Pakistan.


Some people beleive that Allah (SWT) raised Pakistan from the ashes of IVC, just for the sole purpose of taking on Dajjal, headon, and I presonally strongly beleive that.

I believe in this as well brother and I strive for it every day of my life. May Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah grant us the day when Pakistani Muslims become united, patriotic and most of all, come closer to their creator, Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah.

There is a lot of positive in Pakistan, which cannot be denied, ignored or sidelined. In many of my discussions with Dr. Imran Hosein, he has hands down admitted and praised the fact that no other Muslim country has had the will and determination to develop a strong military to thwart a non-Muslim aggressor nation (hindustan). That there many Pakistani doctors, scientists, engineers and philanthropists, who have achieved above and beyond any expectations.

The only desire and urgency that Dr. Imran Hosein expresses, that Pakistanis vanquish the Psuedo-Mullahs who have given Islamic Scholarship a bad name and become staunch Muslims, in both spiritual realm and the practices of Islam. This is the only thing (Islam) that has eluded the People of Pakistan, despite Pakistanis being Muslims. Conquering the nafs to become strong Muslims, is what Pakistanis need to achieve and with it, the world will see how Pakistan emerges as an Islamic Power, that none have ever seen before.

[rungroot]

The Islamic Village In Akhirulzaman By Sheikh Imran Hosein

[SUPARCO]

rungroot, on 30 June 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

The Islamic Village In Akhirulzaman By Sheikh Imran Hosein

Salaam,

The guy has his back to the Qur'an.

Salaam

[rungroot]

SUPARCO, on 30 June 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

Salaam,

The guy has his back to the Qur'an.

Salaam

CHUP BAY!!!

[faizan khaliq]

With all the respect this able scholar is making a mistake of giving timeline to predictions which even Rasool Allah SW did not give saying only Only Allah knows when it is going to happen.

[rungroot]

faizan khaliq, on 30 June 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

With all the respect this able scholar is making a mistake of giving timeline to predictions which even Rasool Allah SW did not give saying only Only Allah knows when it is going to happen.

Again, it is NOT, again, it is NOT, a prediction.  It ONLY the worst case scenario that could occur based on the knowledge of the Quran, the Sunnah and the recent human political history.  Anyone is more than welcome to disagree or prove him wrong based on solid evidence which sheikh Imran is more than open to accepting.  If secular political commentator (whom we listen to very carefully by the way) can make such commentaries then why can't Islamic political commentators.  Let's loose our bias, shall we?

[SUPARCO]

faizan khaliq, on 30 June 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

With all the respect this able scholar is making a mistake of giving timeline to predictions which even Rasool Allah SW did not give saying only Only Allah knows when it is going to happen.

Salaam,

I think Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri has also claimed that the end of the world won't happen for another 600-800 years.  I can't remember the exact number of years he predicted.

Salaam