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[suryakiran]

India's tormentor-in-chief Hafiz Saeed, the head of Pakistan's deadliest terror group LeT, now carries a $10 million bounty on his head. The US has announced this reward for the capture or information leading to the capture of Saeed, making him one of the most wanted terrorists in the world.

http://timesofindia....ow/12510283.cms

[Miroslav]

http://www.rewardsfo...anguage=english

His brother Hafiz Abdul Rahman Makki is also wanted for $2 Million.http://www.rewardsfo...anguage=english

The elite list - http://www.rewardsfo...anguage=english

Miro

[platinum786]

The security forces should ensure no harm comes to this man. He is a Pakistani citizen and has committed no crime against our state.

[BaburMissile]

US offers $10 million for Hafiz Saeed

ISLAMABAD: The United States has offered a $10 million bounty for the founder of the Pakistani group allegedly blamed for the 2008 attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai that killed 166 people, a move that could complicate US-Pakistan relations at a tense time.

Saeed holds a masters degree in Islamic Studies and taught at Engineering University of Lahore. Later on he went to Saudi Arabia and became a student of Sheikh Bin Baz who also taught Osama bin Laden.

After returning to Pakistan, Saeed founded Lashkar-e-Taiba in 1980 which was active in Jammu and Kashmir. Later on he founded another organization by the name of Jamat-ud-Dawa, reported DawnNews.

Saeed and his organization have been allegedly blamed for Indian Lok Sabha attacks. Saeed has also been blamed for his involvement in the Mumbai attacks of 2008. However, he denies all the aforementioned allegations.

Saeed’s exclusive interview with Azaz Syed of DawnNews can been seen in the video below.

Pakistan banned the group in 2002 under pressure from the US but has done little to crack down on its activities.

In December of 2011, Hafiz Saeed organised a rally which was considered as one of the country’s biggest demonstrations against Nato killings. Tens of thousands of people gathered in the city of Lahore to condemn Nato and United States over the killings of 24 soldiers along the Afghan border.

“We will hold a march towards the capital if the government does not revoke agreements of cooperation in the war against terror with the US,” said Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, a senior leader of the Pakistan Defence Council (PDC).

Saeed operates openly in the country, giving public speeches and appearing on TV talk shows. The US also offered up to $2 million for Lashkar-e-Taiba’s deputy leader, Hafiz Abdul Rahman Makki.

The bounties were posted on the US State Department Rewards for Justice Website late Monday, the US Embassy in Islamabad said Tuesday.

Saeed has responded to the announcement by saying that, “how can a country such as US which calls itself democratic stop Jamat-ud-Dawa from addressing the public. In 10 years of war that US has fought in Afghanistan, Pakistan actually lost more than the invaded country,” reported DawnNews

“United states is trying to please India by using cheap strategies. US should immediately vacate the sub-continent,” added Saeed.

He also said that the country agrees with the stance of Difai-e-Pakistan Council.

The reward for Saeed is one of the highest offered by the program and is equal to the amount for Taliban chief Mullah Omar. Only Ayman al-Zawahri, who succeeded Osama bin Laden as al-Qaeda chief, fetches a higher, $25 million bounty.

US Undersecretary of State Wendy Sherman announced the bounty for Lashkar-e-Taiba’s leader and deputy on Monday during a visit to India, according to The Times of India newspaper.

The move comes at a particularly tense time in the troubled relationship with the US and Pakistan.

Pakistan’s parliament is currently debating a revised framework for relations with the US in the wake of American air strikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers in November at two posts along the Afghan border.

Pakistan retaliated by kicking the US out of a base used by American drones and closing its border crossings to supplies meant for Nato troops in Afghanistan.

The US hopes the parliamentary debate will result in Pakistan reopening the supply lines. The closure has been a headache for the US because it has had to spend more money sending supplies through an alternate route that runs through Central Asia. It also needs the route to withdraw equipment as it seeks to pull most of its combat forces out of Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

Source: http://www.dawn.com/...afiz-saeed.html

Hafeez Saeed is just an excuse. The US Pak relation is never ever going to be the same again. The Salala incident changed everything for good. The Yanks are extremely frustrated and desperate for the supply routes to reopen. They are using every ploy possible. It's not working. Expect more of the same tit for tats.

[platinum786]

I hope they bomb the presidential palace with a drone, let Pakistani leaders know thier worth.

[blueazure]

LeT did a lot of damage to indian forces in IOK, many daring raids even into indian bases are to their credit, no wonder the bhangees are pi,ssed  and now have used the US to declare them terrorists.

all hats to musharraf who ended kashmir insurgency and sided with US

[Tipu-786]

LOL!  what a double standard. Instead of directing Pakistani government ( who is already america salve ) to take some sort of action, america trying to stir  a storm out of tea cup , making india happy  and bringing more un-stability to Pakistan.  more over america trying to focus it attention away from it so called fake world on terror.  

Dont know when Pakistan and Pakistani's will wake up and stand up for Rights and shun all ties with west as slaves.

[Miroslav]

Both US and India have asked Pakistan for arrest and extradiction of Hafiz Saeed. There was a red corner notice on this dude by Interpol as well.

Since Pakistan didn't responded this bounty.

Long before US the Indian NIA had put a bounty on his head along with many other 26/11 plotters. It was not a news then.

http://www.nia.gov.i...nted/04094.aspx

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no wonder the bhangees are pi,ssed and now have used the US to declare them terrorists.

Both US and the British declared LeT as a terrerist organization in 2001. Musharraf followed and banned them in 2002. He arrested Hafiz Saeed twice (2001 and 2006) but both the times he was released.

Even Aussies banned them as terrerist group in 2003.

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LeT did a lot of damage to indian forces

They have also murdered unarmed and innocent Kashmiri Pandits. Whether Kashmir belongs to India or Pakistan is a question there is no doubt that these Kashmiri pandits belonged to Kashmir.

Miro

[Jazba-e-Kashmir]

if hafiz saeed is wanted by the indians, why is usa inflicting and siding up with indian matters when the sums of millions should be given by india for the bounty of the chief's head.

This is not going to be only only bounty for any head in the country, there are many more to come and the civilian and military officials have no courage and agendas to side up with their own people.

Like if there aren't enough missing Pakistanis in the first place, intelligence agencies along with the armed forces; have lost their credibility for not handing over missing persons because the orders came from "above" - both coas-officials and civilian officials.

In the long run, the lashkar groups and the armed forces are going to fight each other; there is no need for the american forces to invade Pakistan forcefully, when the armed forces and lashkar groups would bomb or kill each other.
That's what has happend before in the history of Muslims; Muslims siding with the non-Muslims against their own Muslim brothers due to personal gains.
From that point, no Muslim country hasn't really been soverign and prioritized their own people first but instead own personal gains, interests and accounts.

Something to learn is when Ameer-ul-Muawiyya and Hazrat Ali (May Allah bless his soul) had their own internal matter, the Roman Emperor got to know and planned to attack the regime during Hazrat Ali's (May Allah Bless his soul) rule.
Ameer-ul-Muawiyaa wrote a letter to the Roman Emperor saying "O you Roman Dog! if you are going to attack our state under Ali's control, then you'll have to come through me first!"

The Roman Emperor got second thoughts and cancelled the attack on the Khalifa state.
The point is regardless the internal matters or fights were small or big, but the loyalty were with their own state, country, people and God.

The coas-officials and civilian leaders have no close match and excellence like the above mentioned example of so many well mannered gentlemen and loyal Sahab-e-Ikraam (May Allah Bless them all, Ameen.)

Peace

[blueazure]

Miroslav, on 03 April 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

Both US and India have asked Pakistan for arrest and extradiction of Hafiz Saeed. There was a red corner notice on this dude by Interpol as well.

Since Pakistan didn't responded this bounty.

Long before US the Indian NIA had put a bounty on his head along with many other 26/11 plotters. It was not a news then.

http://www.nia.gov.i...nted/04094.aspx

no one gives a #### to what the interpol and UN or watever organization says ,  hundreds of serbian war crimals are at large, how many have been issued interpol notices ,, LOL

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Both US and the British declared LeT as a terrerist organization in 2001. Musharraf followed and banned them in 2002. He arrested Hafiz Saeed twice (2001 and 2006) but both the times he was released.

Even Aussies banned them as terrerist group in 2003.

so is IRGC, so is hezbollah, tommorow , they'll declare ISI  a terrorist organization,, you make me laugh miro

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They have also murdered unarmed and innocent Kashmiri Pandits. Whether Kashmir belongs to India or Pakistan is a question there is no doubt that these Kashmiri pandits belonged to Kashmir.
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freedom movements work like this,, one or two bhangee pundits out of 20 soldiers ? what about the 80k + kashmiri civilians murdered by your armed forces ? its tit for tat you fool, get out of kashmir !

[Miroslav]

blueazure, on 03 April 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

so is IRGC, so is hezbollah, tommorow , they'll declare ISI  a terrorist organization,, you make me laugh miro

My point was the GoP itself under the leadership of a General (A commando) declared them terrerists. Once this is done your argument that they will declare terrerist to anyone doesn't hold. It would have been a different case if they were declared terrerists by west / India and not by Pakistan. Then your above argument was valid.

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freedom movements work like this,, one or two bhangee pundits out of 20 soldiers ?

If Kashmir belongs to Pakistan so do people of Kashmir irrespective of their religion. These pundits were living in Kashmir for ages.

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what about the 80k + kashmiri civilians murdered by your armed forces ? its tit for tat you fool, get out of kashmir !

and I always thought Pakistani's are different than Indians after reading all those topics and arguments made in it differentiating Pakistani's from Indians.

I didn't knew if Indians do something wrong then Pakistani's will follow suit to match them.

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if hafiz saeed is wanted by the indians, why is usa inflicting and siding up with indian matters when the sums of millions should be given by india for the bounty of the chief's head.

India had put a bounty on Saeed's head long before US did. The news went unoticed.

US is not taking sides. They have banned LeT some 10-11 years ago and Saeed is also wanted by them as they feel LeT and Al-Qaida has links.

Miro

[blueazure]

Miroslav, on 03 April 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

My point was the GoP itself under the leadership of a General (A commando) declared them terrerists. Once this is done your argument that they will declare terrerist to anyone doesn't hold. It would have been a different case if they were declared terrerists by west / India and not by Pakistan. Then your above argument was valid.

musharraf , being a US ar,se licker ditched the kashmir cause under their pressure. the same man, barely a year ago personally ordered ilyas kashmiri 313 unit to raid inside IOK in response to indian commandos killing civilians on our side, when ilyas kashmiri returned with the head of an indian Colonel, musharraf personally shabashed  him in ghq and rewarded him with cash

point is that he had no love for indian bit,ching , mush simply crumbled under US pressure thanks to indian lobbying after 9/11 to declare LeT etc as terrorist outfits. i suggest you e mail your indian buddy lobbyist's in DC and tell them to declare musharraf a terrorist as well given what i said above

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If Kashmir belongs to Pakistan so do people of Kashmir irrespective of their religion. These pundits were living in Kashmir for ages.

hafiz saeed killed no one on Pakistani soil, thats more than enough for me

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India had put a bounty on Saeed's head long before US did. The news went unoticed.

because no one cared, as i said, it was only after intense lobbying by india when US declared LeT etc as terrorists.  as far as i know, US had no brawl with them, nor did LeT attempt attacks on US forces ever

[Simpleton]

If Hafiz Saeed meets a violent end, it doesn't mean the Kashmir cause met a violent end.  Many others will take up the cause.

On the list of people wanted by the US, all are in hiding, this dude lives openly, so what's the point of a reward on his head, sirf topi drama.

[Miroslav]

Simpleton, on 03 April 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

If Hafiz Saeed meets a violent end, it doesn't mean the Kashmir cause met a violent end.  Many others will take up the cause.

On the list of people wanted by the US, all are in hiding, this dude lives openly, so what's the point of a reward on his head, sirf topi drama.

Abhi 24 ghante bhi nahi hue reward declare karke, have patience.

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hafiz saeed killed no one on Pakistani soil, thats more than enough for me

What a logic. Until and unless he is killing Kashmiri's under Indian control he is justified.

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because no one cared, as i said, it was only after intense lobbying by india when US declared LeT etc as terrorists.

For the 3rd time let me repeat.

US declared LeT as terrerists back in 2001. 9/11 had a lot to do more than Indian lobbying.

US only put a bounty on Saeed's head after he was not handed over to US / India by Pakistan. Offcourse this happened quite late as US was concentrating on more important heads than saeed who is less importance to them.

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as far as i know, US had no brawl with them

LeT is/was associated with Taliban and Al-Qaida.

LeT had training camps in Afghanistan pre 9/11.

Many gitmo detainees have accepted that they recieved training from LeT.

Miro

[HKK]

Hafiz Saeed is a Pakistani citizen. He lives in Pakistan and hence Pakistani law and regulations apply to him. Yanks can screw themselves for all we care.

If yanks and bhangees think he is a terrorist, bring forth cases against him in Pakistani courts and prove his terrorist credentials there. But here is the catch, Pakistani courts have already declared him innocent and released him many times over in different cases by Pakistani government.

In nutshell, yanks and bhanges can screw themselves.

[Simpleton]

@Miroslav:

Yes, you're right, it's too soon to see if he goes into hiding or not, likewise, it's too soon to see if our "leaders" capitulate to US pressures or not, likewise it's too soon to see if he's sold out or not, all are possibilities as the recent past has indicated.  Having said that, it is important to refocus on your point that LET has been on the US list since 2001, yet the fact remains that all the other people listed on that website are in hiding, yet this guy has not been in hiding since 2001.

But all that is a moot point, because if one falls many others will take his place, and recent events around the world have shown that the newer leaders are more vitriolic and militant.  As far as the Kashmir cause is concerned it is very close to the hearts of the populace, no doubt you'd feel the same on your side of the divide, only time will tell if and when a political settlement comes into effect, whether it will hold or a few years down the line people will move on or the movement will undergo a new and more zealous resurgence.  However, don't misconstrue my views as those emanating from one who sees no options to conflict resolution other than at the barrel of a gun, I and my compatriots, are more than willing to give a negotiated settlement all the opportunity as human life is the most precious commodity on the planet, and war always brings most suffering to those most powerless to do anything about it, and those who fight and send loved ones off to fight.  However, if there is even a slight feeling of being shortchanged on the behalf or our Kashmiri bretheren, rest assured there are atl least people from two generations willing to carry the fight.

Take note however, if it comes down to it I will man the frontline and should I fall, I intend to do my part to raise my son to take on the mantle of responsibility of liberating Kashmir, and I know if it comes to it I will also sacrifice my only remaining child to this cause, and this is something I am not alone in feeling.

[Sanguine]

Miroslav, on 03 April 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

My point was the GoP itself under the leadership of a General (A commando) declared them terrerists.

And he was detained and his detention  was challenged in court and the court acquitted him, not once but twice, owing to "insufficient evidence".

PS: Correct me if I am wrong, Pakistan does have extradition agreement with UK but it never entered into any such agreement with US or India.

[blueazure]

Miroslav, on 03 April 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

What a logic. Until and unless he is killing Kashmiri's under Indian control he is justified.

LeT focus was attacking and pinning down indian forces in OK to give Pakistan a strategic card . kashmiri population supported them and often risked their own lives in the process. had LeT started gunning down local kashmiris , it would have all but lost  its cause . mind you, the bulk ( 80% + ) kashmiri population is muslim...  Let, 313 brigade, HM and other guerilla groups never resorted to bomb attacks etc against kashmiri locals as such. their main target, i repeat , were half a million indian armed forces ( which you conveniently are trying to label as civilians ,)

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For the 3rd time let me repeat.

US declared LeT as terrerists back in 2001. 9/11 had a lot to do more than Indian lobbying.


US only put a bounty on Saeed's head after he was not handed over to US / India by Pakistan. Offcourse this happened quite late as US was concentrating on more important heads than saeed who is less importance to them.

US finds it convenient to label its opposition as 'terrorists' often .  IRGC , which supported shiite resistance in iraq against occupying US forces has been branded a terrorist outfit, same goes for hezbollah that is giving israel a hard time .  

for the indians , 9/11 was a bhagwan send, using their strong lobbying in DC , they started to pressure Pakistan into closing its kashmir insurgent cells, LeT, 313 and HM had little if much to do with AQ and taliban , the kashmir armed struggle started in 89 and had local kashmiri elements ( + pak army volunteers etc ) , while AQ and taliban were mostly pashtuns and arabs ..  LeT major training centre was in central punjab, Mureedke to be precise and not the hills of afghanistan..

the crux of US efforts post 9/11  was to destroy afghan resistance , not end the kashmir insurgency . but as i said above, indian lobbying pressured them to declare kashmir resistance cells as terrorists too and brand them in the same category as AQ and taliban while they had little to do with them..

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LeT had training camps in Afghanistan pre 9/11.

Let major centre was/ is in mureedke , punjab . this is the same centre which the indians boasted to destroy in a 'surgical strike' post mumbai drama, yet couldnt do so

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Many gitmo detainees have accepted that they received training from LeT.

this is circumstantial at best..a conjecture...

[blueazure]

LeT spokesperson denies any links with AQ , says their focus is kashmir and that they fight for kashmiri freedom, their alleged links with AQ are all indian propaganda

[Skull-Buster]

He was tried in court and found to be innocent and thus released. He went through the due process of law, so there can be no further questions about him. Whether he is declared terrorist or there is bounty from a foreign country, it doesnt matter.

[rungroot]

http://www.dawn.com/...afiz-saeed.html

charsi suttay baaz general kiyani will probably cave in.

[Pikes]

isn't that same amount as OBL?
I guess we all should expect next "terror attack" from hafiz saeed now. He is now officially certified international badman

[rungroot]

Obl had $50 million.

[faizan khaliq]

hahaha good luck to amreeka, problem is of ghairat, hafiz sahib would always keep an evel eye on american, s concubine

[Miroslav]

Simpleton, on 03 April 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

@Miroslav:

Yes, you're right, it's too soon to see if he goes into hiding or not, likewise, it's too soon to see if our "leaders" capitulate to US pressures or not, likewise it's too soon to see if he's sold out or not, all are possibilities as the recent past has indicated.  Having said that, it is important to refocus on your point that LET has been on the US list since 2001, yet the fact remains that all the other people listed on that website are in hiding, yet this guy has not been in hiding since 2001.

Becuase he was always protected by the ISI.

Rest I am not debating on liberation of Kashmir. I am not saying if this guy perishes Kashmir movemnet will be dead. So kindly do not misquote me nor derail our discussion.

I wish you all the best in liberating Kashmir.

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LeT spokesperson denies any links with AQ , says their focus is kashmir and that they fight for kashmiri freedom, their alleged links with AQ are all indian propaganda

Both US and India had submitted proof. One can always question those proofs like people are questioning statements made by gitmo detainees or David headly and Rana.

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Let major centre was/ is in mureedke , punjab .

I was pointing out the links with AQ.

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yet couldnt do so

We are trying to get rid of the problem without getting our hands dirty. Hence happy for US bounty. If US gets him we will achieve our objective without loosing anything.

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indian lobbying

Indian loobyists are so smart and powerful? I mean we are not jews.

What stopped Pakistani's to do counter lobbying? If India is so evil why couldn't Pakistani's lobbied hard?

Mind you US was very much with Pakistan till 80's and 90's. Plenty of time since indepence to lobby against India and prove them evil in front of the world.

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And he was detained and his detention was challenged in court and the court acquitted him, not once but twice, owing to "insufficient evidence".

He was innocent as an individual but was leading an organization which was declared as terrerist organization by Government of Pakistan.

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PS: Correct me if I am wrong, Pakistan does have extradition agreement with UK but it never entered into any such agreement with US or India.

Hence the bounty. If they can't get him straight, they want to get him the other way.

Miro

[Miroslav]

topic is already open here

http://forum.pakista...0

[blueazure]

Miroslav, on 04 April 2012 - 04:36 AM, said:

I was pointing out the links with AQ.

which as i pointed are mere conjectures and speculation, LeT has no mutual interest nor any objective with them. its also an open fact that majority gitmo detainees later turned out to be completely innocent, many had their charges dropped and went back to their normal lives. allegations from gitmo captives hold no weight as such, they are mere POWs having no legal representation,

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We are trying to get rid of the problem without getting our hands dirty. Hence happy for US bounty. If US gets him we will achieve our objective without loosing anything.

because you didnt have the balls todo so yourself, you do what your kind always does best, fring the gun from other's shoulders,,  

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Indian loobyists are so smart and powerful? I mean we are not jews.

What stopped Pakistani's to do counter lobbying? If India is so evil why couldn't Pakistani's lobbied hard?

Mind you US was very much with Pakistan till 80's and 90's. Plenty of time since indepence to lobby against India and prove them evil in front of the world.

indian lobbying has always been strong in DC , the US too sees the 1 billion market and business potential there plus the geo political advantage of arming and pleasing it against China, its aint rocket science to figure out , while traditionally a russian ally, india  has successfully managed to acquire C 130s, navy ships, AH 64 gunships from the US, they were even begging to sell india advanced combat jets if im not mistaken . there should be no doubt about india US mutual alliance and strong indian lobbying .

Pakistan is a mere partner of necessity and has been ditched by US on every occasion.last time i checked, US forces were bombing our posts , go figure  

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He was innocent as an individual but was leading an organization which was declared as terrerist organization by Government of Pakistan.

under US pressure,  

LeT was / is Pakistani military establishment's child and its major strategic card against india,

[Miroslav]

blueazure, on 04 April 2012 - 07:20 AM, said:

under US pressure,

Doesn't matter how. Once you acknowledge you acknowledge.

As far as Hafiz Saeed is concerned I am done with my arguments. As I said one can always run conspiracy theories and challenge the officially acknowledged facts.

World will obviously believe otherwise.

Miro

[platinum786]

Official facts, like Iraq's WMD? Like it's ability to strike the UK mainland within 45 minutes? They were also official facts. Official facts are nothing more than legitimised lies, legitimised by the strength of the one who tells the lies. If I have the courage to call them lies, then the truth is exposed. Frankly nothing will become of Hafiz Saeed, anyone who touches him will pay the price, the man has a private army afterall.

[HKK]

More or less an official response from Pakistan. Bottom line is , screw yourself uncle Sam.



http://www.dawn.com/...afiz-saeed.html


‘Evidence needed to try Hafiz Saeed’


ISLAMABAD / LAHORE: The government needs watertight evidence from the United States to act against Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Mohammad Saeed.
“In order to proceed against Hafiz Saeed we need hard and undeniable evidence that can withstand judicial scrutiny,” an official of the interior ministry told Dawn, reacting to the $10 million bounty announced by the US for information leading to the radical leader’s arrest.
“We can’t prosecute a Pakistani national on the basis of hearsay just to please India,” he said about the reward announced by a US official in New Delhi.Interior Minister Rehman Malik said in a TV talk show that the government was yet to be officially intimated by the US about the bounty for Mr Saeed, who is now among the top five men wanted by the Americans.
Activities of Hafiz Saeed, who founded the now banned Lashkar-e-Taiba during the mid-1990s, have largely focussed on the freedom struggle in Kashmir, but recently he has emerged as one of the main leaders of the Difa-i-Pakistan Council (DPC), an alliance of some 40 rightwing groups opposing reopening of suspended Nato supply routes to Afghanistan.
The reasons cited in the US ‘Rewards for justice’ notification include an Interpol ‘red corner notice’ issued by the Indian government against Mr Saeed for his alleged role in the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks and designation of the two groups founded by him as foreign terrorist organisations by the United Nations and US.
He acknowledged that the names of LeT, JuD and Hafiz Saeed had come up several times during Pakistan-US dialogue over the past year and a half, but claimed that nothing concrete had been shared by American officials with Pakistanis in this regard.
The US programme offering millions of dollars has been used to track terrorists on the run but Mr Saeed’s case is unique in that he freely moves about in a country that has been a close US ally in the war on terror, but is currently reviewing the terms of its cooperation.
He has been participating in anti-US rallies of the DPC and only late last month, attended a demonstration against possible restoration of Nato supply routes outside the parliament building.
Mr Saeed, during a TV show, mocked at the bounty: “I’m not hiding in caves for rewards to be announced for my capture. The US is frustrated because of our campaign against resumption of Nato supply.” He challenged the US to get him arrested.
The PML-Q, a key ruling coalition partner, claimed that the bounty was unlawful and meant to appease India.
“The US has announced reward for information about a person against whom no criminal case exists in America,” the party’s secretary general Senator Mushahid Hussain said at a media conference, where he urged the government to protest with Washington against the move.
Mr Saeed believes the bounty on him and $2 million for locating his brother-in-law Hafiz Abdul Rahman Makki is an attempt to please India and lure certain mafias into getting him.
“I am among the people of my country and moving here freely. I fully believe in Almighty Allah as my protector and am not afraid of the Americans,” he said.
“Although the US has pleased India through this announcement, it is, in fact, more concerned over DPC’s growing popularity.
The DPC will not budge from its stance on Nato supply. The US knows that it will be very difficult for the government to restore the Nato supply after DPC’s strong opposition,” he said.
Talking to Dawn, JuD leader Amir Hamza said the head money should better be placed on US President Barack Obama and his predecessor George Bush for conspiring against Pakistan.
In reply to a question, he said: “The security being provided by JuD’s volunteers to their head at the moment is sufficient.”
JuD spokesman Yayha Mujahid said Hafiz Saeed would continue performing his work without any fear. He said the JuD would never withdraw from its stance against the proposed restoration of Nato supply and giving India the most favoured nation (MFN) status.
US embassy spokesman Mark Stroh rejected JuD’s claim that the bounty had been announced to please India and stop the group from opposing resumption of Nato supplies.
“It is a ridiculous claim of the JuD chief. Mr Saeed was listed on the UN 1267/1989 Al Qaeda Sanctions Committee since Dec 10, 2008, as an individual associated with the Al Qaeda terrorist organisation and, thus, subject to international sanctions,” he said.
The spokesman quoted a statement issued by the US state department through the embassy on Tuesday.
“The US department of state has authorised a reward of up to $10 million for information leading to the arrest or conviction of Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (sic) founder Hafiz Mohammad Saeed and a reward of up to $2 million for information leading to the location of LeT’s second-in-command, Hafiz Abdul Rahman Makki,” the press release said.
It said that the LeT was designated by the state department as a foreign terrorist organisation on Dec 20, 2001, and he participated in the planning of the four-day terrorist assault on Mumbai in Nov 2008.
“Saeed and his organisation continue to spread ideology advocating terrorism, as well as virulent rhetoric condemning the US, India, Israel, and other perceived enemies.
“Hafiz Abdul Rahman Makki is Saeed’s deputy and head of LeT’s political affairs department. Makki previously served as head of LeT’s foreign relations department and has helped raise funds for LeT.”
It said that early in 2007, Mr Saeed provided approximately $248,000 to an LeT terrorist training camp and approximately $165,000 to an LeT-affiliated seminary.
“On Nov 4, 2010, the US treasury department designated him a ‘specially designated national’ which subjects him to sanctions.
“We encourage anyone with information on these individuals to contact the nearest US embassy or consulate, any US military commander or the Rewards for Justice office. All information will be kept strictly confidential,” it said.






Look at the bloody audacity of american embassy to put a bounty money on a Pakistani citizen, who is living in Pakistan subjected to Pakistani laws and judiciary.  It is about time we wrap up american foot prints forcefully from Pakistan including their embassy just like the persian did and live peacefully like persians in our west.

[platinum786]

The awam will have to make the difference, do to the Embassy what the Persians did. Put them in their place. The fools to eat from their hand won't.

[Sanguine]

I aint sure if US guys want to carry out another OBL kind of raid just to please India, doesn't make much sense to me. Otherwise this bounty news did not make a headline here. I wonder if anyone from Pakistan took it seriously.

[blueazure]

Miroslav, on 04 April 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

Doesn't matter how. Once you acknowledge you acknowledge.

Miro,

Allegations frm a gitmo detainee are all you could bring forward, which is at best circumstancial ,,  rest is just cooked up nonsence,,,,

[blueazure]

Fatima47, on 04 April 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

I aint sure if US guys want to carry out another OBL kind of raid just to please India, doesn't make much sense to me. Otherwise this bounty news did not make a headline here. I wonder if anyone from Pakistan took it seriously.

Us wants to please india, nothing more,, the timing and place of this news should speak for itself ,,

[Sanguine]

blueazure, on 04 April 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

Us wants to please india, nothing more,, the timing and place of this news should speak for itself ,,

Certainly, it speaks volumes. Thats why no one is bothered about the bounty. Was pretty lame but well, let kids be happy, who cares!

[rungroot]

Pakistan supreme Court has already said that there is no evidence against him when india was crying and whining about him.

[suryakiran]

The United States does not intend to eliminate Pakistani military's posterboy terrorist Hafiz Saeed with a Drone attack or by any other means. The $ 10 million bounty announced this week by the Obama administration is aimed primarily at shutting down Saeed's terrorism operations even as Washington attempts to bring him to justice for the Mumbai carnage.

http://timesofindia....ow/12536057.cms

[Aslam]

It doesn't make sense. When anyone put a bounty of on someone, that means that person wants to eliminate the other person. Thats a double standard of United States. Secondly if Pakistanis don't consider Hafiz Saeed a terrorist, they should raise this issue with the United States, Also, why are Moderators in this forum are allowing indians to call him a terrorist in this forum. It shows our weakness . Indians are not a well wisher nor a friend of Pakistan, nor it want Pakistan to have a friendly relationship with western countries. Pakistan need unity among each other and with countries who doesn't want to portray Pakistan as a terrorist country.  It should be clear by now.

[rungroot]

suryakiran, on 04 April 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

The United States does not intend to eliminate Pakistani military's posterboy terrorist Hafiz Saeed with a Drone attack or by any other means. The $ 10 million bounty announced this week by the Obama administration is aimed primarily at shutting down Saeed's terrorism operations even as Washington attempts to bring him to justice for the Mumbai carnage.

http://timesofindia....ow/12536057.cms

Pakistan's supreme Court has already found him and JuD innocent of any involvement in the b rated mumbai comedy drama.  and besides, Mullah Omar had $25 million bounty, he got decriminalized and now amreeka is begging him for mercy.  so don' worry, Hafiz Saeed will also get decriminalized and both amreeka and endia will be begging him for mercy soon enough, INSHALLAH.   anyone who sides with joker amreeka will ended becoming a joke itself. They are becoming irrelevant both as financial power and as a military power.

[Miroslav]

blueazure, on 04 April 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:

Allegations frm a gitmo detainee are all you could bring forward, which is at best circumstancial ,,  rest is just cooked up nonsence,,,,

I was rather pointing out musharraf blacklisting LeT as terrerist organization.

Under pressure or not Hafiz's own country blacklisted his freedom fighting movement as terrerist.

Once this is done, Indian lobbying, lies, propaganda doesn't matter. Pakistan itself made this blunder of declaring them terrerists to begin with. Hence no point in pointing finger at India or US.

Musharraf is no zamuriyat. There is no typical zamooriyat excuse. The guy was a 4 star general and a commando so please don't come up with pressure excuses.

Countries like Vietnam and Cuba without any 4 star commando general showed their middle finger to US and unlike Pakistan these countries were not a nuclear power either.

Miro