62 replies to this topic

[seacad]

Here is a question: When 9/11 happened US had the world support, and it could have attacked any country it wished to, and yet it did not attack Pakistan. Why??? If Pakistan is the biggest threat as per you and one or two others here than why US not take that golden opportunity and attack Pakistan?

Good point, I think the most logical answer would be that Pak had NUKES, and you could not attack a nuclear country head on, even with all the support in the world. At one point we would have retaliated. However since 9/11 they have introduced enough elements and factors to cause a potential destablization. Also, Musharraf's goverment has in a way a puppet regime (in that they would follow a lot of US orders) however not a COMPLETE puppet regime. The current administration would hand over Pak on a silver platter if ever demanded.

[HKK]

Why wait for such false flag operation to happen? Why not work and demonstrate now that such dramas wont have any effect on us. We must have long arms to reach uncle Sam's throat. We must and should have thermo nuclear weapons and ICBMs to launch them. Its lot easier to deter a war then have to actually fight it.

[faizan khaliq]

Why wait for such false flag operation to happen? Why not work and demonstrate now that such dramas wont have any effect on us. We must have long arms to reach uncle Sam's throat. We must and should have thermo nuclear weapons and ICBMs to launch them. Its lot easier to deter a war then have to actually fight it.

before we do that our country will be struck with nukes US has I think over 10,000 of them as compared to our 300
2.US missile defense system is quite effective against ballistic missiles
3.US second strike is more deadly than first one
4.Their huge industrial infra structure has to be taken out first ,then their Basis and Nuclear subs and then their forces
5,Show of capability would irritate them to an extent that might act first and fast though I am far the deterrence but  we will be better off securing Afghanistan from Them instead of waging a war

[HKK]

Number of nukes doesnt matter a bit. All we need is city busting H bombs and ICBMs to deliver them. Once we have that, no one in this planet will have balls to go to war with us and that include america. Missile sheild is all darama and topi bazi, a false sense of security. And if it comes to actual nuke exchange, who will be all loss? us lot a third world coutry or america? Can they afford to lose NY, Chicago, silicon valley and so on, the maga cities they have build over a centry , just because they dont like a third world country! I think not. The only thing they can do is to sanction us if we ever decide to go towards a full fledge nuke power path.

[Tamerlane]

Here's a report from DEBKAfile, a Mossad website. It shows that the Israelis are planning a dirty-bomb attack on America and trying to connect it to Pakistan.

FBI again hunts al Qaeda "dirty bomb" expert - first exposed by DEBKA
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report August 7, 2010, 8:28 PM (GMT+02:00)

US federal agencies Saturday, Aug. 7, announced the hunt was on again for Adnan Al Shukrijumah, 35, who lived in the US for 15 years and may now be Al Qaeda's mew global operations chief.

DEBKAfile's counter terror sources confirm the wanted man is indeed dangerous - but not because of his climb up the al Qaeda ladder but owing to the unique task first assigned him seven years ago to carry out a radiological bombing attack in America.

This task was first revealed by DEBKA-Net-Weekly 132, the Nov. 17, 2003, whose sources reported that  already then, in October of that year, Shukriumah was the quarry of a secret manhunt in the US and Canada.  He was employed at the time as a nuclear engineering student at MacMaster University's nuclear 5-megawatt research reactor in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada before suddenly disappearing.

His absence was noted when a large quantity of radioactive material was missed from the university's reactor. It was suspected then that Osama bin Laden had entrusted the "student" with preparing a "dirty bomb" attack in a North American city.

Shukrijumah has never been traced since.

Born in Saudi Arabia, Shukrijumah was brought to the United States as a young child by his father, an imam, and mother and lived inNew York and Florida for 15 years.

In its original report of 2003, DEBKA-Net-Weekly disclosed:

American authorities first heard about Al ShukriJumah’s terror mission on al Qaeda’s behalf from Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, the senior operative of the fundamentalist network captured at his home in Karachi one night in March.

Sheikh Mohammed described the wanted man as a one-man cell trained to build from scratch radiological bombs capable of environmental contamination. From Sheikh Mohammed, US counter-terror agencies learned for the first time about the single-cell al Qaeda chemical, biological and nuclear strike-teams consisting of lone operatives trained to operate solo.

The experts had previously assumed that each unconventional weapons cell numbered several members and was supported by broad logistical backup crews [like the network which carried out the 9/11 attacks].

His disclosures were therefore an eye-opener in more ways than one.

Today, DEBKAfile's counter-terror sources are skeptical about the wanted man's new job description as al Qaeda's head of global operational planning. It is far more likely, they say, that the organization would rather take advantage of his familiarity with the American scene for grooming Muslims who are US citizens for attacks inside the United States.

That was the impression gained by the Detroit taxi driver Najibullah Zazi, one of three men accused of plotting suicide bomb attacks on New York's subway last year. According to his account, Shukrijumah was key liaison officer at their training camp in Pakistan.

Our experts would not be surprised to hear that Shukrijumah was as keen on getting updated on the changes occurring in America during his seven-year absence as he was to teach the new recruits the arts of terror.

Al Qaeda is wont to stick with a long-term plan until it is carried out - or is aborted. Their designated expert in unconventional terror may be in the process of adjusting his operation for a dirty bomb or other unconventional strike in America according to the circumstances prevailing today..

http://www.debka.com/article/8957/

[pakistanzindabaad]

> How To Deal With The Next False Flag, If Pakistan is blamed

Let it happen...

It will sooner or later... In my humble opinion until that time we should pour every cent we have into armament...

[Tamerlane]

Is America's Military Prepared for the Israeli Threat of a Nuclear 9/11?

CAN AMERICA STOP AN ISRAELI “NUCLEAR” 9/11?
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

It's a long article so I'm just posting extracts:

“The American people are afraid, they see disaster coming.  Everyone is waiting to see what city is chosen to be sacrificed.  Will it be Phoenix or Sacramento or perhaps Atlanta?  This is the real fear, the “not so secret” fear in the heart of every American.”

These “unattributable” nukes have only one purpose, to be used in a terrorist attack on the United States, a “false flag” attack, to drive America to attack Iran and Pakistan.

Today, America is facing the biggest threat since World War 2.  Nothing will be in the news, nothing will ever be in the news, not the truth anyway.  When it happens, the news will be ready, like on 9/11 when it was called on to talk Arabs and box cutters, a childish conspiracy theory millions still believe.  It was ready to talk weapons of mass destruction and when that turned out to be a lie, it was ready to sit silent for its complicity in war crimes.  “War crimes” seems like a harsh term but the definition fits.  Invading Iraq on, not a whim, but a series of lies orchestrated by a criminal conspiracy is a war crime.  Less obvious to many, the takeover of Afghanistan as a drug production facility or a base for destabilizing Pakistan or an operation center for gas pipelines, whichever reason you choose, was justified by lies as serious as those used to justify Iraq.

http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2010/09/i...epared-for.html

[Tamerlane]

CIA PLANS MUMBAI-STYLE ATTACKS IN EUROPE?

A 2000 parliamentary investigation in Italy concluded that operatives "linked to the structures of United States intelligence" were involved in bombings, massacres, and other terrorist attacks in Europe. (CIA-funded and equipped GLADIO!)

Allegedly, the CIA has been planning Mumbai-style attacks on Europe. (US Probes Scope of Suspected Terror Plot / 'Mumbai style' terror attacks planned on UK, France and Germany ...)

Allegedly, a CIA operation, involving commandos, would involve simultaneous attacks in multiple European cities, including London.

The 'commandos' are reportedly of Pakistani or Algerian origin and may have been trained in Israel and elsewhere.

The CIA may be modeling their proposed European assault on their previous Operation Gladio attacks, which reportedly included the Bologna bombing of 1980 and murderous attacks on supermarkets in Belgium in the 1980s.

The UK has the second-biggest foreign troop commitment in Afghanistan, and the CIA is keen to convince the UK public that there should be no defence cuts.

In Europe there has been strong criticism of US and NATO attacks on Pakistan.

The CIA is keen to paint Pakistan as a source of terrorism.

On 28 September 2010, the Eiffel Tower and the surrounding Champ de Mars park were evacuated briefly because of a bomb alert.

It was the fourth such alert in the Paris area in as many weeks.

Patsy

It appears that the Mumbai Attacks involved 'white men' who may have been 'mercenaries' employed by certain security services.

It appears there were also non-white patsies, who were there to take the blame.

At Vijayvaani.com, 1 December 2008, Sandhya Jain tells us about the cover-up in Mumbai.

Among the points made:

1. "By no logic can anyone believe that nine separate sites in a city could be held to ransom by just 10 men.

2. Rediff.com has interviewed the doctors who conducted the post-mortems on the dead hostages and terrorists.

"Doctors who conducted the post-mortem said the bodies of the terrorists – especially their faces - were beyond recognition."

(This might suggest that the 'white mercenaries' killed off the patsies and made sure their faces could not be recognised.)

"The NSG commandos never got to ... close range with the terrorists...

"This suggests the presence of a mysterious third party...

3. "Top Russian counter-terrorism expert, Vladimir Klyukin, an Afghan war veteran, opines that the Mumbai attackers were not 'ordinary terrorists' and were probably trained by the special operations forces set up in Pakistan by US intelligence prior to the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan.

"In his view, the nature of the Mumbai events suggests the signature of the ‘Green Flag’ special operations forces created by the Americans in Pakistan, just a year before the Soviet withdrawal...

"The Russian Interfax news agency reported the former KGB veteran as surmising the involvement of at least 50 terrorists, given the geography and sheer scale of the attacks...

"Initial investigations ... suggested that as many as seven terrorists included mostly British-born Pakistanis...

"Reports ... suggested some (not just one) gunmen were captured.... So there is a lot of confusion here that needs to be cleared up...

4. "The death of (some of the) terrorists points to a clear double-cross and also the possibility of the involvement of more than one religious denomination.

5. "It is pertinent that the recovery of a satellite phone from the trawler abandoned with the body of the Gujarati captain revealed that the trawler had been hijacked to Karachi Port, and while there, calls were made even to Australia (where the CIA has a famous outpost!)"

The author is Editor, http://www.vijayvaani.com/
Source and the more original source here



The Mumbai Attacks look like a repeat of Operation Gladio.

A. In Belgium, in the mid-80s, hooded gunmen walked into crowded supermarkets and began firing away.

The massacres were later discovered to be linked to Belgium’s Gladio unit.

Operation Gladio was a CIA-NATO enterprise.

"The Supermarket massacres occurred during the period when the U.S. was pushing a plan to base the Euro-Missiles (nuclear-tipped Cruise missiles) in different European countries...

"The Belgian Parliament, which investigated the incidents, felt that they were another attempt to sow confusion and fear among the populace, thereby generating public outcries for a law-and-order government which would be amenable to the Euro-Missles.” - (http://www.etext.org...m/Antifa/gladio)

Belgian nobleman Benoit de Bonvoisin has been linked to the supermarket massacres. (Belgium Explained y / aangirfan: MADELEINE McCANN & CERTAIN FASCISTS)

B. In Italy, "Gelli’s P2 and elements within the Vatican ... working in conjunction with the CIA, aligned itself with criminals, corrupt police, and high government officials to discredit the emerging Left and stage a fascist coup...

"On behalf of democracy, the Mafia enlisted as their agent Salvatore Giuliano. He and his cousin Gaspere Pisciotta led their men into Portella della Ginestra.

"Without prejudice, they shot and killed a dozen people and wounded more than fifty others.

"New elections were held, and the Christian Democratic party won a resounding victory." - (http://www.etext.org...m/Antifa/gladio)

~~~

According to Wayne Madsen (Tajikistan; We Are Coming.)

"After establishing destabilization programs in Pakistan..., the CIA, with the help of MOSSAD, has embarked on a major program to carry out false flag terrorist attacks in Tajikistan with the goal of bringing that country firmly into the American orbit."

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/09/cia-...attacks-in.html

[Tamerlane]

As Pakistan continues the blockade of US war supplies the preparations for false-flag event seem to be getting under way by the Americans. They're reviving news of Osama Bin Ladin's connections with Pakistan, even though he's been dead for years:


Osama bin Laden softens tone, but to what end?

By KIM GAMEL, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 7 mins ago

CAIRO – Softening his tone, al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden issued a humanitarian appeal on Saturday urging Muslim governments to do more to help Pakistan's flood victims and expressing worry about climate change. It was his second purported audiotape in as many days.

The less aggressive approach contrasted with al-Qaida's previous calls for a violent response in what experts say could be a "good cop, bad cop" ploy to exploit anger over the flooding and rally support for the terror network.

Al-Qaida is under pressure to refurbish support among Pakistanis as it faces a surge in U.S. missile strikes and government crackdowns on insurgents who easily move between Afghanistan and Pakistan's porous border. American officials have asserted for months that the core of the network has been weakened and is struggling to raise money and attract recruits.

Bin Laden, who is believed to be hiding in the lawless border area that separates the two countries, said governments of Muslim nations have not done enough to help Pakistanis hit by devastating floods that killed hundreds and affected about 20 million people this summer.

"The effort should have been bigger from the beginning," he said in a recording posted Saturday on militant websites. It was distributed along with a photograph of a smiling bin Laden superimposed over pictures of flood victims.

He also singled out Arab leaders, accusing them of failing to respond to a calamity in a fellow Muslim nation and asserting that the U.N. secretary-general did more than them to help Pakistan.

Bin Laden has often sought to package himself as a senior statesman. In this recording, he assumed a tone more measured than past videos and recordings in which he and his deputies called for the leaders of Muslim nations like his native Saudi Arabia to be overthrown.

Experts said he was likely trying to broaden al-Qaida's appeal beyond its traditional extremist support base while remaining devoted to the network's campaign of violence.

The messages coincided with reports that bin Laden was behind the terror plots to attack several European cities. If true, that would be the most operational role that bin Laden has played in plotting attacks since Sept. 11, 2001.

"Bin Laden is dancing above the fray and addressing broader issues that give him the appearance of a benevolent father figure to embattled Muslims," said Evan Kohlmann, a terrorism analyst with Flashpoint Global Partners, a New York-based security consultancy. "Perhaps bin Laden sees this as a way of swaying those on the edge towards supporting him."

A copy of the 13-minute, nine second audiotape, entitled "Help your Pakistani Brothers," was made available by the U.S.-based SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors jihadi forums. Its authenticity could not be independently confirmed, though the voice resembled that of bin Laden in previous confirmed messages.

In a similar recording released Friday, bin Laden called for the establishment of a relief organization to prevent flooding in Muslim nations, create development projects in impoverished regions and improve agriculture to guarantee food security.

U.S. and Pakistani officials have often expressed fears that militant groups in Pakistan could drum up support by exploiting frustration among Pakistanis who feel aid has not reached them quickly following the floods that swept through the country starting in late July.

Asked about Friday's bin Laden message, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said he doubts the victims in Pakistan would be "comforted in getting the aid that is necessary from somebody that is not showing their face to the world."

The U.N.'s humanitarian arm said last week that most of those displaced by the floods have begun returning to their homes. But Pakistanis remain deeply unhappy with the government's performance after the deluge despite official insistence that any government would have had problems responding to a crisis of that magnitude.

Two earlier al-Qaida videos about the floods took a sharp militant tone.

A U.S.-born al-Qaida spokesman, Adam Gadahn (Jewish Mossad agent), urged Muslims in Pakistan to join Islamist militants fighting their nation's rulers in a video last week, saying that Islamabad's "sluggish and halfhearted" response to recent floods showed it did not care for them.

Before that, al-Qaida's No. 2 leader, Ayman al-Zawahri (also dead), made a thinly veiled call on Pakistanis to rise up against their government over what he said was the "failure" of authorities there to provide relief to flood victims.

Bin Laden often takes a more elevated, philosophical stance than his deputies — opining, for example, on global warming in past messages. However, in his last audiotape released in March he threatened retaliation if the U.S. executes Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-professed architect of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at Georgetown University, said bin Laden could be taking advantage of renewed publicity over the European terror plot to thrust himself back in the spotlight. The accusations have raised speculation bin Laden might be seeking to show al-Qaida's besieged Pakistan-based core remains able to launch attacks on Western targets.

"It may be their way of doing good cop, bad cop and making sure that all of al-Qaida's messages are being communicated," he said. "In other words, they're covering all bases."

In Saturday's message, bin Laden accused the media of failing to cover the flooding tragedy effectively or provide "the real picture" of natural disasters in the Muslim world. Journalists should also increase coverage of climate change, he said.

International donors have pledged more than $800 million for flood relief in Pakistan, the bulk of it coming from the United States which has donated nearly $350 million. The United Nations last month hiked up its call for aid, seeking to raise $2 billion for Pakistan's flood victims, its largest humanitarian appeal ever.

Arab nations in the Gulf, including Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, have also launched relief appeals and delivered aid to Pakistan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_bin_laden_tape

[Tamerlane]

Osama bin Laden orders a UK attack: Mumbai-style gun blitz in Europe was his plan, say U.S. spy chiefs

By David Williams
Last updated at 11:29 PM on 1st October 2010

New audio tape attacks Muslim governments for spending too much on armies
Al Qaeda leader called for attacks on UK, Germany and France
U.S. may also have been a target

Osama Bin Laden personally ordered commando attacks on Britain, U.S. intelligence chiefs believe.

The Al Qaeda leader is said to have sent a directive to his planners several months ago naming the countries and the type of attacks he wanted.

Bin Laden’s direct link to the plot was released by intelligence officials via National Public Radio in the U.S. yesterday.

It came 48 hours after details of how missile strikes fired into militant camps by unmanned drones in Pakistan’s tribal area had disrupted the planning of the Al Qaeda operation.

Two British brothers of  Pakistani origin – one of whom was reportedly killed in the drone strikes earlier this  month – and eight Germans were said to have been receiving terror training for the raids in camps near Pakistan’s  border with Afghanistan. France and Germany were also targets.

Gunmen had planned to open fire on crowds at busy European tourist sites and take hostages at hotels in a plot that would have marked a new style of attack by Al Qaeda.

Wanted: An audio tape purported to be from bin Laden has been released where he criticised Muslim governments for spending too much on their armies
The attacks would have been similar to the Mumbai atrocities of November 2008 which left 173 dead after a series of ten co-ordinated shootings and bombings carried out by Muslim fanatics from Pakistan.

‘We know that Osama Bin Laden issued the directive,’ National Public Radio quoted an unnamed intelligence official as saying.

‘And if he issued the directive, we just don’t believe that the U.S. wouldn’t be on his shortlist of strategic targets.’

An intelligence team is said to have been tracking the two British brothers for nearly a year and the Germans for more than six months.

‘They have been making calls to Germany and London,’ an intelligence official in Pakistan said. ‘They have been talking about and looking for facilitators and logistics there to carry out terror strikes.’

Both European and U.S. officials said the plot was still in its early stages and not considered serious enough to raise the terror threat level.

In Britain it remains at severe, meaning a terrorist attack is highly likely.

Details of the plot are said to have emerged following the arrest of a German citizen of Afghan descent, Ahmed Sidiqi, 36, in Kabul in July. He is said to have supplied details of Al Qaeda training camps used by Europeans and of plans to carry out attacks in Europe.

Last year he and several others Germans travelled to the Afghan-Pakistan border and joined the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, and extremist group allied with Al Qaeda.

An audio tape, thought to be of Bin Laden, has been released criticising relief efforts following floods in Pakistan and calling for action against climate change.

The message, entitled Pauses with the Method of Relief Work, was broadcast with a video of images of Bin Laden and of natural disasters. Its authenticity could not be confirmed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/...l#ixzz11F5ZlicE

[Tamerlane]

Osama bin Laden: A dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government

[Ababeel]

U.S. Issues Travel Alert For Europe Because of Threat of Terror Attacks

The State Department has issued a highly unusual travel advisory alerting Americans traveling to Europe of potential terror attacks.

"The State Department alerts U.S. citizens to the potential for terrorist attacks in Europe," says the advisory. "Current information suggests that al Qaeda and affiliated organizations continue to plan terrorist attacks."

While the advisory does not name potential targets, it says "U.S. citizens are reminded of the potential for terrorists to attack public transportation systems and other tourist infrastructure." It recommends that U.S. citizens "take every precaution to be aware of their surroundings" and register their travel plans on the State Department's travel registration web site.

The alert was issued because of strong concerns that terrorist teams in Europe have selected their targets and are now ready to strike at airports and tourist attractions, according to multiple law enforcement and intelligence sources.

The current concerns are for scenarios that include opening fire at airports in Europe as well as executing similar attacks at "soft" targets like tourist attractions or hotels.

According to ABC News sources, the terror plotters have moved through the surveillance stage, checked back in with Al Qaeda in Pakistan and have received the go-ahead to strike.

Officials said earlier that Osama bin Laden had approved or blessed the attack plan.

ABC first reported the threat of Mumbai-style attacks last week. Since then senior intelligence and law enforcement officials have continued high-level meetings to assess the intelligence and weigh the appropriate additional responses.

By Thursday afternoon the unusual travel alert became a topic for discussion.

European and U.S. authorities first learned of the plot over the summer following the capture of a suspected German terrorist who had been training in Pakistan.

Intensified drone strikes in Pakistan have been confirmed as in part aimed at paralyzing the attackers.

Recent law enforcement operations within the United States have helped to flush out chatter that added to earlier concerns about the U.S. homeland as a possible additional target of the attacks.

Known targets are believed to include England, France and Germany. Additional European countries, including Italy and Belgium, are also targets, multiple sources say.

As the threat picture continues to unfold it appears to include the possibility of multiple coordinated attacks in multiple countries. As such, it would be the most significant al Qaeda plot to have reached the operational stage in recent years.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) had no official comment, but sources say no change in the U.S. threat level is expected unless specific information regarding a U.S. threat develops.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-issues-tr...7546&page=1

[Ababeel]

Pakistan: Dozens of Europeans in terror training
By KATHY GANNON (AP) – 1 hour ago

ISLAMABAD — Dozens of Muslim militants with European citizenship are believed to be hiding out in the lawless tribal area of northwestern Pakistan, Pakistani and Western intelligence officials say, training for missions that could include terror attacks in European capitals.

Officials have used phone intercepts and voice tracking software to track militants with ties to Britain and other European countries to areas along the Afghan border. Al-Qaida would likely turn to such extremists for a European plot because they can move freely in and out of Western cities.

Fear that such an attack is in the planning stage has prompted the U.S. State Department to advise Americans traveling in Europe to be vigilant. American and European security experts have been concerned that terrorists based in Pakistan may be plotting attacks in Europe with assault weapons, similar to the deadly 2008 shooting spree in Mumbai, India. U.S. intelligence officials believe Osama bin Laden is behind the plots.

A senior official of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, or ISI, told The Associated Press that there are believed to be "several dozen" people with European citizenship — many of Pakistani origin — among the Islamic extremists operating in the lawless border area.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not supposed to talk about classified information to the media, said foreigners in the area also include Chechens, Uzbeks, Arabs and Turks, one of whom was a former F-16 pilot in the Turkish air force.

"That shows you that some of the people who are coming are very well educated," he said.

The official also said Pakistan authorities arrested four Russian jihadis who infiltrated into Pakistan along with their families. "It was very surprising for us but they come thinking this is the pure (Islamic) ideology that they are seeking," he said.

Britain's communications monitoring agency, the Government Communications Headquarters or GCHQ, estimates there are as many as 20 British-born militants in the border area, especially in the North Waziristan district that has been the focus of recent missile strikes carried out by unmanned aircraft operated by the CIA.

Mobile phone communications have been tracked from the border area to points in Britain, particularly England's Midlands, where there is a heavy Pakistani immigrant population, according to a British government official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the terror plot investigation is ongoing.

Voice-printing software enables British intelligence to identify and track specific individuals believed connected to terror plots, he said.

In addition, a spokeswoman with Germany's Federal Criminal Police Office said last week that there is "concrete evidence" that 70 people have traveled from Germany to Pakistan and Afghanistan for paramilitary training, and that about a third of them have returned to Germany.

The presence in the border areas of Islamic militants with Western connections has been known for years.

Faisal Shahzad, the Pakistani-American who confessed to the May 1 failed car-bombing in New York's Times Square, said the Pakistani Taliban trained him for the mission. Shahzad is scheduled to be sentenced Tuesday in a U.S. court.

During an operation last year, Pakistani soldiers discovered a passport in the name of Said Bahaji, which matches the name of a member of the Hamburg, Germany, cell that conceived the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States. Bahaji is believed to have fled Germany shortly before the attacks in New York and Washington.

A Spanish passport found by the Pakistani military during the same operation bore the name of Raquel Burgos Garcia. Spanish media reported that a woman with the same name was married to Amer Azizi, an alleged al-Qaida member from Morocco suspected in both the 9/11 attacks and the Madrid train bombings in 2004.

Concern over the pool of Europeans capable of carrying out attacks abroad rose about a month ago when U.S. intelligence heard of a European plot and began monitoring the people involved, according to two U.S. officials. The CIA recently stepped up airstrikes from unmanned aircraft in northwestern Pakistan, in part to disrupt the plot. In September there were at least 21 attacks — more than double the highest number fired in any other single month.

A Pakistani official said some information about the plot came from a suspect who had been interrogated at the military prison at Bagram Air Field north of Kabul, the main U.S. and NATO base in Afghanistan. A U.S. official identified him as Ahmed Siddiqui, a German citizen of Afghan origin who was captured in Afghanistan in July.

The plot apparently called for several gunmen to fan out across Germany, Britain and France in hopes of launching attacks similar not only to the Mumbai assault but also to so-called "swarm attacks" that extremists have mounted in Kabul and other Afghan cities. The tactic calls for small teams with automatic rifles, grenade launchers and suicide vests to strike simultaneously at several targets in a city and cause as much havoc as possible before they can be killed or captured.

Reports of the alleged plot again cast the spotlight on the Pakistani district of North Waziristan, where Washington believes al-Qaida and its allies plan attacks against U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan as well as targets abroad.

Although the Pakistani military has mounted ground operations elsewhere in the border region, it has been reluctant to do so in North Waziristan, saying its forces are stretched too thin. Some within Pakistan's military and intelligence establishment privately say an escalation in drone attacks in North Waziristan and recent cross-border incursions by NATO helicopter gunships are aimed at forcing the army into an operation.

However, the incursions have frayed relations between Pakistan and the U.S. and NATO. Pakistan has blocked its main border crossing to NATO supply trucks for the past four days in response to alleged incursions last week by NATO helicopters, including firing that shot dead three Pakistani paramilitary soldiers who had fired warning shots at the choppers.

Associated Press writer Paisley Dodds contributed to this report from London.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...docId=D9IKEOMG0

[Caesar]

The blame for all this squarely lies with the pathetic Pak Generals who tried playing a double game. I F*ing hope they die and burn in hell!!

[Tamerlane]

Bin Laden is Dead; Long Live “Bin Laden”

August 17, 2010 posted by Maidhc Ó Cathail


- Who’s keeping the terror myth alive? -

In the trigger-happy post-9/11 world, the favoured way to instigate a war is to demand that the designated “evildoer” prove a negative.

Iraq was invaded because it couldn’t prove that it didn’t have WMDs. Iran is under constant threat of attack unless it can demonstrate that it’s not seeking nuclear weapons. And now Pakistan is being chastised for allegedly harbouring Osama bin Laden–who in all probability has been dead and buried for eight years.

Questioning Pakistan’s willingness to pursue bin Laden and other al-Qaeda leaders, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton last year told a group of Pakistani editors, “I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn’t get them if they really wanted to.” And in a recent interview with Fox News, Clinton charged that “elements” of the Pakistani government know where Bin Laden is hiding.

But what if bin Laden is not hiding in Pakistan? What if he’s been dead since December 2001? How then does Islamabad prove that some of its government officials are not concealing his whereabouts?

While the mainstream media rarely if ever question the belief that bin Laden is still alive, some cracks have been appearing in the consensus. In a September 11, 2009 piece in Britain’s Daily Mail, Sue Reid wondered, “What if everything we have seen or heard of him on video and audio tapes since the early days after 9/11 is a fake-and that he is being kept ‘alive’ by the Western allies to stir up support for the war on terror?”

An even more prominent sceptic is UPI Editor at Large Arnaud de Borchgrave whose July 26, 2010 commentary titled “Elvis bin Laden” may herald a new consensus. Sifting much the same evidence as Reid, the “legendary journalist” stated that “some key intelligence officials are taking bin Laden’s reported demise seriously.”

Both articles cited experts who have studied the post-December 2001 audios and videos and concluded they are fakes.

In 2007, Switzerland’s Dalle Molle Institute for Artificial Intelligence, which does computer voice recognition for bank security, found that the voices on recordings after mid-December 2001 differed clearly from earlier recordings of bin Laden.

Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s religious studies’ department and the foremost bin Laden expert, noted in a 2007 book the inconsistency between the increasingly secular language of the audios and videos and bin Laden’s earlier distinctive religious speech.

Assessing the evidence, Angelo M. Codevilla, a former U.S. intelligence officer who studied Soviet disinformation techniques during the Cold War and a professor of international relations at Boston University, wryly concluded that “Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama bin Laden.”

So, if bin Laden is as dead as Elvis, who’s been faking all those scary threats in his name?

According to U.S. and British intelligence officials, al-Qaeda’s media wing, As-Sahab Foundation for Islamic Media Publication, has been run since 2001 by Adam Gadahn, a California-born convert to radical Islam who now goes by the name Azzam al-Amriki.

Gadahn found his way to the Islamic Society of Orange County while living with his grandfather, Carl Pearlman, a board member of the Anti-Defamation League. Ostensibly a civil rights organization set up to fight anti-Semitism, the ADL is “little more than a de facto adjunct of the Israeli government” which has even been caught spying on American critics of Israel.

Adam’s parents changed their surnames to Gadahn in the mid-1970s. The name refers to the Biblical warrior Gideon who, with the aid of trumpets and clay jars, defeated Israel’s enemies.

As Antiwar.com editor Justin Raimondo put it, Adam Gadahn is “an awfully odd figure, whose sudden evolution from a nice Jewish boy into Osama bin Laden’s Goebbels is just a little hard to take.”

Equally hard to take is the means by which the public learns of bin Laden’s latest pronouncements.

“Almost every statement by Osama bin Laden published on the Internet…is first made public by SITE and IntelCenter,” according to a Spiegel Online profile of Rita Katz, Josh Devon and Ben Venzke, who founded the two companies that supposedly track al-Qaeda online.

SITE co-founder Rita Katz is an Iraqi-born Jew, whose father was publicly hanged in Iraq after the 1967 War as an Israeli spy. Katz, who served in the Israeli Defense Forces, tries to downplay the significance of her background but is not always successful. “When you grow up in a place like Iraq,” she told Spiegel, “you understand maybe a little bit about how Arabs think, and also what they are capable of.”

When Neal Krawetz, a researcher and computer security consultant, analysed a 2006 al-Qaeda video of Ayman al-Zawahiri for alterations and enhancements, he discovered that the As-Sahab and IntelCenter logos had been added at the same time.

Attempting to make light of the understandable suspicions that the “terror trackers” are working for Israeli intelligence, the Spiegel article jokes: “And the conspiracy theories pontificating that SITE and IntelCenter shoot the bin Laden videos themselves will continue to exist in the future. And Katz, Venzke and Devon will continue to see the humor in such theories: Yep, this is Mossad Headquarters. Exactly!”

But with the hunt for the elusive bin Laden having already cost thousands of lives and trillions of dollars, perhaps Americans should demand conclusive proof that Israel hasn’t conned them into fighting a phoney “war on terror.”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/08/17/bi...live-bin-laden/

[Tamerlane]

Israel behind fake Bin Laden tapes concerning Pakistan Floods?

Maidhc Ó Cathail

If we are to believe the Associated Press, Bin Laden has spoken again. According to the world’s oldest and largest newsgathering organisation, the fugitive Al Qaeda leader, who some intelligence experts believe has been dead since December 2001, has just released an audiotape in which he calls for the creation of a new relief body to help Muslims affected by this summer’s devastating floods in Pakistan. Bin Laden, APsuggests, is “seeking to exploit discontent … by depicting the region’s governments as uncaring.”

Seemingly unfazed by news of the CIA’s 3,000-strong Counterterrorism Pursuit Teams hot on its trail, Al Qaeda has, in recent weeks, according to the AP report, put out three messages, including this one, concerning the massive floods that affected around 20 million people in Pakistan, “signalling a concentrated campaign by the terror group to tap into anger over the flooding to rally support.”

AP’s sole source for the 11-minute tape, with the oddly contemplative title “Reflections on the Method of Relief Work,” is SITE Intelligence Group. The US-based group, which “monitors jihadi forums,” provided AP with a copy of the message which it claims was posted on unnamed “Islamic militant websites.” There are questions, however, about whether SITE Intelligence is the most objective source of information about terrorism.

SITE co-founder Rita Katz, an Israeli Defense Forces veteran, is an Iraqi-born Jew, whose father was publicly hanged in Iraq after the 1967 Six-Day War as an Israeli spy. Considering Tel Aviv’s obvious interest in having the world’s only superpower fight a “global war on terror” against the Jewish state’s Muslim neighbours, it somehow never occurred to Associated Press, or other mainstream media outlets, to ask the question, Like father, like daughter?

Moreover, there are reasonable grounds for suspicion about Al Qaeda’s other pronouncements on the floods in Pakistan.  In a recent video, presumably also found online by Katz’s SITE, Al Qaeda’s California-born spokesman, Adam Gadahn,  castigated  Islamabad for its “sluggish and halfhearted” response to the floods, and called on Muslims in Pakistan to join the Islamist militants fighting the government. Gadahn, who has since 2001 run Al Qaeda’s media wing, As-Sahab, found his way to the Islamic Society of Orange County while living with his grandfather, Carl Pearlman, a board member of the Anti-Defamation League. Ostensibly a civil rights organisation set up to fight anti-Semitism, the ADL is a de facto adjunct of the Israeli government which has even been caught spying on American critics of Israel. Like grandpa, 
like grandson?

In a previous video, Ayman al-Zawahiri, said to be  Al Qaeda’s second-in-command, also incited Pakistanis to rise up against their government due to its “failure” to provide relief to 
flood victims.

But when Neal Krawetz, a researcher and computer security consultant, analysed a 2006 video of al-Zawahiri for alterations and enhancements, he discovered that the logos of As-Sahab and IntelCenter (the other group that supposedly tracks terrorists online) had been added at the same time. IntelCenter is run by Ben Venzke, former director of intelligence at iDefense, a VeriSign company.

VeriSign is a partner of Verint, whose parent company, Comverse Infosys, was founded by a former Israeli intelligence officer.

Comverse/Verint, one of a number of Israeli eavesdropping and surveillance companies created by veterans of Unit 8200, the technology intel unit of the Israeli Defense Forces Intelligence Corps, has been suspected of spying 
on Americans.

If, as seems likely, the Al Qaeda messages concerning this summer’s floods in Pakistan are fake. They provide further evidence of what some analysts say is a campaign to destabilise the world’s only Islamic nuclear power. The question then becomes, what, if anything, Islamabad will do to counter such efforts before it too goes the way of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Maidhc Ó Cathail is a widely published writer based in Japan

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle...n_October23.xml

[Tamerlane]

US officials warn of major assault on airports

The list of potential terror targets in Europe was expanded to major airports after a US official said five hubs could be attacked by commando-like teams modeled on the Mumbai attack two years ago.

By Alex Spillius in Washington
Published: 6:34PM BST 04 Oct 2010

Forecourts, lobbies, check-in zones and any part of an airport complex that can be accessed by non-travellers could be vulnerable, according to an official quoted in the US media.

It had previously been thought that the possible attacks were focused on city centres and commercial areas.

Japan followed America in warning its citizens that a terrorist attack in Europe would target foreign visitors.

Sweden also told travellers in Europe to be on alert "in public places, in and around public buildings, at tourist attractions, on public transport and in other places with large crowds."

The Foreign Office told Britons on Sunday that the risk of living and working in Germany, France and Sweden had changed.

US sources also said that US, British and other intelligence agencies were casting a wide net as they searched for al-Qaeda affiliated teams planning attacks.

Counter-terrorism officials said they were examining multiple plots and multiple types of attacks.

Several groups are under suspicion for planning attacks, include Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Pakistani group behind the Mumbai attack which claimed 160 lives, the Pakistani Taliban, and al-Qaeda in Islamic Maghreb, an affiliate in North Africa.

Brad Garrett, a former FBI agent now an ABC News consultant, said: "If they believe they can pull it off, I think there's every reason to believe they may go ahead and try it. These plans go together at a particular point in time, and it may be perhaps that they are at a juncture with people, equipment and locations that they need to do it now."

Bruce Hoffman, an expert on terrorism at Georgetown University, said that even if some of the ringleaders of the suspected plots had been killed by recent US drone attacks, al-Qaeda may well decide to go ahead.

The 2006 plot to bring down multiple passenger jets leaving Britain was continued even though the original ringleader was captured and his replacement killed, he said. That attack was foiled before the threat level had been raised to imminent. None of the warnings issued by Britain, the US or Japan have reached the maximum level.

Five German militants were believed to have been killed by an American missile strike yesterday in Mir Ali, North Waziristan, close to the Afghan border.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...n-airports.html

[Tamerlane]

One of the amazing things about 911 was that while it was still happening the Americans already knew who was responsible and the pictures of every single terrorist was shown on TV while the buildings were still burning. They also discovered the passports of the hijackers lying near the buildings which was very convenient, and also copies of Qurans which the hijackers had left lying around at various locations.

Since then the Americans have become even better and now they know who the attackers are even before the attack happens. They're already spreading the news of the next attack and telling the world that the headquarters of the terrorists is in Pakistan.

EU and U.S. hold talks after terror alert causes alarm

Pakistan should be taking this seriously and not just sitting waiting for it to happen. In the first place we should be telling the Americans not to do it and if they don't listen then we should be telling them that if they go ahead and do the attack and come after Pakistan then it will be war. We won't surrender next time just because Musharraf did last time.

Pakistan should also publicly deny that any attacks are being planned from Pakistan soil and that this is all an American conspiracy theory.

This is what comes out of accepting the American official version of events on 911 instead of challenging them. The most losses suffered from the 911 Drama were by Pakistan, apart from Afghanistan and Iraq. The 911 Drama has given  the Americans a permanent death warrant for every single Muslim in the world. A licence to kill.

Pakistan has also fallen into the trap of the Bombay Drama. Pakistan never denied that properly and today the whole world's media talks about it as if it has been proven that Pakistan did it.

Now we're being threatened with another drama. They could be doing it to scare Pakistan into accelerating the civil-war inside Pakistan. Or it could be part of their plan to launch a ferocious attack on FATA in time for Obama to win the elections in November. In American election terminology it is called the "October Surprise" - an surprising event that the politicians create to win the elections in November.

During Bush's run for the second term the "October Surprise" was a video in October 2003 urging Americans to vote for Bush's rivals. That caused enough voters to switch to Bush to allow him to win.

Now the October Surprise may be the false-flag to be blamed on Pakistan. This is going to be very serious for Pakistan and the Americans are going to bring the Afghanistan war into Pakistan in a big way.

Pakistan should be planning already to deny the American accusations in the world media and to defend ourselves from an American military assault.

[Tamerlane]

Obama hoping for a 'nuclear' 9/11 excuse to invade Pakistan??? Bob Woodward interview on BO's wars

Obama says: "Pakistan is a cancer."

Bob Woodward say: "Pakistan is the most dangerous country in the world." (That's what Bush also said).

There's no doubt that the final assault on Pakistan will happen after the Americans do a false-flag dirty-bomb on themselves so that they can go for Pakistan's nuclear weapons. The only question is if Obama has the balls to order it, or we have to wait for the next Republican president.

[Tamerlane]

Now they're even trying to link 911 to Pakistan.

Hamburg mosque which links 9/11 to the badlands of Pakistan

[clutch]

Shifting the "War on Terror" to Pakistan: The Real Target is Pakistan’s Nuclear Potential

by A R Jerral


The NATO forces attack on FC post in FATA has evoked “deep concern” from Pakistan, as the media reports indicate. Our Foreign Minister has expressed this concern to NATO’s Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen at its headquarters in Brussels. One hoped that the NATO would see the gravity of reaction in Pakistan, but that was a wishful thinking. Mr Rasmussen in the “good and open” discussion with our FM admitted that the attack was carried out “intentionally” - so much for our deep concern. The NATO boss thinks that by offering condolences and expressing regrets he has settled the incident.

In a previous article regarding America’s strategic objectives in Pakistan, I had opined that the ongoing war on terror in Afghanistan is aimed to take the operations into the Pakistani territory. The real target is Pakistan’s nuclear potential; they have no plausible security threat from the ill-equipped Talibans or ragtag extremist. Arthur Herman, an author and scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), has hinted at the real objective of the US. AEI is a think tank closely associated with the neoconservatives and is openly committed to Israel’s security. It supplies advisors to officials of the US administration and serves as “incubator for new policy ideas and is critical part of the web of power in Washington” (The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy by Mearsheimer and Walt).

What Herman suggests in his write-up is in fact a policy direction to the US administration. He implies that the policy of sending drones and attacking the militant hideouts in the Pakistan territory has not worked. His line of argument is that Pakistan encourages drone attacks on those terrorist who pose a threat to them; they do not support attack on groups who target the Afghan government. His underlying thrust is obvious, he wants to tell the US and NATO forces to prop up the Afghan government against Pakistan.

One can understand now why President Hamid Karazai vents his anger on Pakistan from time to time. Herman suggests that if Pakistan government is further destabilised “the only thing keeping the country’s nukes out of the hands of Al-Qaeda may have to be the US troops.” So, the thrust is Pakistan’s nukes. It is a tacit way to tell the policymakers in Washington to keep the pressure on our country, which will weaken the Pakistani government’s standing causing instability. That will provide the reason for the US troops to move in.

What is unknown to the public in Pakistan is that the pressure is escalating. Herman quotes interesting figures of NATO excursions into the Pakistan territory. In 2009, he lists 45 Predator drone attacks, in 2010 so far the attacks have tripled - 22 attacks in September alone. We know about the drone attacks as these are reported in the media, but what we do not know and our media does not report, is the fact that the US-led NATO forces are launching crossborder raids into Pakistan to flush out the Taliban insurgents. For this, CIA is operating Counterterrorism Pursuit Teams in Afghanistan. These teams are regularly mounting ground raids into the Pak territory. Bob Woodard in his latest book, Obama’s Wars, claims that CIA boss Leon Panetta has demanded more powers and authority to wage a secret war inside Pakistan. In this way, things are getting hot as far as the war on terror is concerned. Pakistan is moving to become centre stage in this war. Bruce Riedel, a former CIA and NSC official, has advised Mr Obama to shift the focus of war “from Afghanistan to Pakistan”; this is what we are witnessing in the shape of heightened war effort into the Pakistan territory.

Another American author, Eric Margolis assesses USA’s perception about Pakistan, as an “ungrateful ally and a potential enemy of US interests in the region.” America is amidst mid-term elections in which the Republicans see a chance to return in majority. There will be stronger calls for tougher military action in the war on terror. After the polls, there are chances that there will be deeper “air and land attacks” in Pakistan. Pentagon, too, seems convinced on this strategic approach. Whatever way we look at the situation America is moving gradually towards invading Pakistan.

The line of arguments puts the emphasis on the perceived fact that the US cannot win the war on terror in Afghanistan, unless the militant sanctuaries in Pakistan are shutdown or ‘blown out’ - but the current US policy is not achieving that goal. The hidden suggestion is obvious: there has to be an escalation in the crossborder military attacks. What we have witnessed in the latest NATO raid on FC post is a step towards that direction. It was intentional, as the NATO Secretary General has said; they knew the post was not a terrorist sanctuary and yet they attacked it. It is a deliberate provocation to test the response from Pakistan side.

My assessment is that the US-led NATO troops are not yet ready to move into Pakistan in a big way. The US, thus, is not inclined to militarily move into Pakistan and stay here for a longer duration in occupation mode. With Pakistan army’s fighting potential and the general hostility of the masses it will be a very costly affair. America does not want another Vietnam in this region. They would like to mount a lightning strike to take out Pakistan’s nukes. That can happen only once General David Petraeus is reasonably assured about the location of our nuclear assets.

I had voiced my apprehension in a previous article about the role and tasking of the notorious Blackwater and its deployment in Pakistan. The USA’s Defence Department hired it to provide security to its military installations in Iraq. Its exploit are elaborately covered in a book, according to which it had been tasked to other dirty works too. What is it doing in Pakistan no one knows? In fact, it has just vanished. It may be vigorously searching the storage facilities and locations of our assets which weigh heavily on the American mind, or should one say the Israeli mind. Israel is wary of nuclear capability with any Muslim country. During Zia’s regime, it is reported that Israel with the connivance of India wanted to destroy Kahuta by launching an air raid.

More so, the political clout that Israel exercises on the US administration is obvious. The fact that policy suggestions to take the war to Pakistan emanate from the think tanks, who work for the Israel lobby, indicates that this lobby is using all its might to force the Obama administration to create conditions where it becomes possible to go after Pak nuclear assets. For the time being, aerial and ground based pressure will be exercised to keep things hot. Once the ground reconnaissance by Blackwater confirms the targets, there will be an all-out effort to destroy them. Till then, the US led “anti-terror forces” will keep Pakistan engaged by raids in FATA area stepping up the tempo. Pakistan needs to remain vigilant and be prepared for the worst.

It may sound cynical and alarming, but one should view the US designs with doubt. Pakistan has gained nothing from their friendship and it lasts till the US sees any benefit to its policy, and then we are thrown to the wolves to fend for ourselves. It is high time that we should chalk out a political course for ourselves which can help us to act in national interest.

A R Jerral is a freelance columnist.

[Caesar]

Looks like every dick and harry is now an expert columnist on this issue including endian Jerral. I have lost count on how many of exactly the same articles have been posted on PDF, but the theme is the same. Looks like so called experts just copy and paste each others articles!

[faizan khaliq]

1.The concept of generating full combat power of USA against one nation and creating an example out of them is getting popularity, Here is colmn of Hassan nisar about a Book written by Michael Shoer about absolute Power.
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/oct2010-daily/...-2010/col15.htm
BE PREPARED FOR absolute WAR  IF  we have to defy them