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[Web Master]

Currently Pakistani government is trying to engage India in a dialogue to resolve issues such as Kashmir, confidence building measures, Indian support of radical groups in Baluchistan etc. It seems like our government is getting very negative replies to our offer of talks such as statements India should opt for surgical strikes in Pakistan. Pakistan is the main terror hub. Kashmir is a forever part of India etc.

Do you think friendship with India is in Pakistan’s favor? What should be the nature of relationship with India when Indian political parties and government feel that they are superior to Pakistan?

Edited by Web Master, 14 September 2009 - 04:48 PM.

[Web Master]

Here are my thoughts. Based on the current mood in the Indian government I don’t think its a right time to have talks with India. Pakistan must stay strong and only talk to India when India is also interested in peace. Our constant requests to India to start peace talks is taken the wrong way in Indian government circles. It seems like they take it as a sign of weakness. What do you guys think?

No talks with Pakistan, no pressure on restarting talks: PM

New Delhi, April 10: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh Friday denied any US pressure on India to restart talks with Pakistan and made it clear that the stalled composite dialogue will not resume unless Islamabad shows “sincere evidence” to prosecute all the pepetrators of the Mumbai carnage.

“Let me say, there is no pressure on us to resume dialogue. If there is any attempt… we will not succumb to that pressure,” Manmohan Singh said when asked about media reports suggesting the US was pressuring India to resume talks with Pakistan.

“I have stated it several times that the dialogue with Pakistan is a necessity. We are neighbours and we can’t choose our neighbours,” the prime minister said in an interaction with members of the Indian Women’s Press Corps.

“This dialogue cannot resume unless Pakistan gives sincere evidence of its willingness to prosecute all those involved in the Mumbai attacks,” he said. He had made the same point over a week ago in London on the sidelines of the G20 summit.

http://etalaat.com/english/News/state-scan/5127.html

Edited by Web Master, 14 September 2009 - 04:46 PM.

[Speedray]

Pakistan must use her influence at every level to obtain peaceful settlement of Kashmir Issue  .. but we know India .. they will not accept it so easily ..

Best opportuity was  the Agra  Summit ..  Musharraf was the most powerful leader and at the same time most flexible too  .. he was ready for  serious and practical steps for resolving the longstanding issue.


India had the golden opportunity to find any acceptable resolution for both countries ..  but Bhindian  nature is just to pass the time on Kashmir issue  ..

They will talk about  Trade , cultural events ,  Jooint ventures in film industry  etc etc but escapes on the question of Kashmir   and we Pakistanis cannt forget Kashmir ..this is the core dispute ..just trade and economic relation will never ever give any permanent solution ..

At the same time we cannt inititate a WAR ..that will throw  Pakistan/India 25 years back ..  No country will gain anything but destruction.

Therefore in my opinion after watching Indian stupid  behaviour in Agra Summit .  

Policy of Current Govt should be  

• Peaceful Coexistence: Not As Friends Or Enemies, Just Neighbours   ( + continue supporting  Mujahideen in Kashmir)

OR

• Coldwar: Diplomatic War But No Armed Military Conflict

[Dizasta]

There should be no relationship with the enemy (india), period!

[Tiberia]

Pakistan should always be in a state of constant denial of the involvement of any Pakistani elements in the Kashmir, Sikhs, the ULFA militancy, or any other separation movement in India.
While giving full secret support to the above mentioned areas Pakistan should work hard diplomatically and through all means to destroy India through its own elements....(And thats what India is trying to do these days.)
The ISI backed infiltrators should alway be busy in killing of Indian army and every Hindu  in cold blood manners.
Their should always be a cold war with India, no matter what the battle field is Pakistan should always keep an edge on India(As we have done it for the past 60+ years).
At the current times India is trying to do the same that Pakistan was doing since 1947 in Kashmir and other areas of India...
We should take care of the separation movement in every part of Pakistan.
Do what ever it takes to win this war....
That is the theme of ISI
Who ever wins this cold war will survive in South Asia.
Pakistan's ISI has always won this battle while India is learning through ISI's examples (The srilankan team ambush, Balochistan, Swat, and bombings in different parts of Pakistan these are all the example of Raw's fighting back policy)

As long as we have this powerful ISI we'll be the ultimate winners of this endless battle...
So to save Pakistan, make ISI powerful .
Make every part of India bleed unless they accept their slavery and become muslims......
That is the only way my fellow Pakistani friends....
Watching Indian sh.itless movies and flying kites with them will kill us..........
As they are trying to do the same with us, we should be united and ISI should always trigger different headaches for India.
ISI's edge.....
1. The Jihad strategy.
2. The Talibans ( Remember we created them so use them again when needed they are more powerful then a Hydrogen bomb).
3.  Arms and ammunition supply to the elements.
4. Go back to the 80s strategies with an updated and refined manner.

[Speedray]

Make every part of India bleed unless they accept their slavery and become muslims......

Tiberia bhai , What does it mean  ?

Fighting back the enemy is one thing , we all understand ...but talking about converting  Hindus to 'Islam'  in such manners ? ??

[Web Master]

Here is "friendly" India's new peace move......And they say they want friendship with Pakistan!

India to station all MiG-29s along Pak border

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: The Indian Air Force (IAF) has decided to station all its MiG-29 squadrons at Adampur to beef up air defence capabilities and react in the shortest possible time along the international border with Pakistan, the Indian Express has reported.
“We consider ourselves to be a strategic air power establishment of the IAF in the western sector, ever ready for operations,” said Air Commodore HS Arora, Air Officer Commanding of the Adampur airbase.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defence has signed a contract with the RAC MiG aircraft corporation to extend the service life of the MiG-29 by 25 to 40 years. Arora said six MiG-29 fighters were being upgraded and flight-tested in Russia, adding the remaining aircraft would be overhauled in India with the aid of Russian experts. “The upgraded MiG-29 fighters will have better radar systems and avionics to help fighters, a new weapon control system and modernised RD-33 engines, which would increase the aircraft hitting capability from long ranges,” he added.
Separately, the Indian army is planning to acquire 300 light tanks for deployment in the mountainous regions of the border with China and Pakistan, the Press Trust Of India has reported. It cited army sources as saying the tanks would be deployed in Jammu and Kashmir in the north and Arunachal Pradesh and Assam in the northeast.
http://www.pakistanlink.com/Headlines/Oct09/05/10.htm

[faizan khaliq]

KASHMIR  involvement should be active which has to be combination of regular military intervention like Kargill and hot border plus guerrilla war inside Valley and   completely disregard  international pressure including UN till the desired results are achieved.things will take better turn inshallah

[Felicius]

Policy of Current Govt should be  

• Peaceful Coexistence: Not As Friends Or Enemies, Just Neighbours   ( + continue supporting  Mujahideen in Kashmir)

OR

• Coldwar: Diplomatic War But No Armed Military Conflict

We are currently doing both as is.
Is sey ziada peacefull hona mushkil hai.

[1Pakistani]

There should be no relationship with the enemy (india), period!

I will go with that. Until the occupation of Kashmir doesnt end, until our water supply is not secured there is no talks with them. I personally dont support any form of dealing nor do I support diplomatic relations with them.

We are currently doing both as is.
Is sey ziada peacefull hona mushkil hai.

There is issue with first one. Former President Musharaf gave kashmir to them on a plate, we killed off the Kashmir insurgency and now India is claiming that violence is record low, while Kashmirs are being killed and raped. At the same time India infact started to fund and incite violence in Pakistan.

SO in any shape there should be no relations until certain issues are sorted out once and for all. Once that happens we should consider the future.