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post Mar 28 2009, 10:58 AM
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Don't know if this has been posted before .... but here we go ....

an excellent man defending his nation ....

PART 1 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrPV-qIyk_k
PART 2 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kinIWT7b14g
PART 3 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eIxkGiCPuI
PART 4 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLnKhJqP5Cc
PART 5 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s9_QpesWtQ
PART 6 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hO4BBHo3gI
PART 7 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H_N1pkThCk
PART 8 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0I9WPMeU_U
PART 9 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhZJ8DMs-JA
PART 10 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZgnNMzt1B4
PART 11 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Z0GLiJwSc
PART 12 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq1_VXDQOVw
PART 13 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxd96zLnEXE

It is nice to see patriotism in a person ..... it takes a brave person to go into the enemy's den and speak the truth ....

Pakistan Zindabaad!!


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People who have no hold over their process of thinking are likely to be ruined by liberty of thought. If thought is immature, liberty of thought becomes a method of converting men into animals.

It is time that I reopen the tavern of Rumi: the shaikhs of the Kaaba are lying drunk in the courtyard of the church.

Unbeliever is he who follows predestination even if he be Muslim, Faithful is he, if he himself is the Divine Destiny.

Psychologically speaking, all states, whether their content is religious or non-religious, are organically determined.

Thou art not for the earth, nor for the Heaven the world is for thee, thou art not for the world.

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post Mar 28 2009, 11:15 AM
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full of many good points

watch part 1 from 4:15min - 7min very important point he makes great answer


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post Mar 28 2009, 11:17 AM
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The sad thing from watching all this is that it convinces ordinary people even more that India and Indians will never be logical ..... when it comes to Pakistan ..... there is only ONE way to deal with them ..... make our country stronger in all aspects, these people only respect power!!


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Pakistan ZINDABAAD!

People who have no hold over their process of thinking are likely to be ruined by liberty of thought. If thought is immature, liberty of thought becomes a method of converting men into animals.

It is time that I reopen the tavern of Rumi: the shaikhs of the Kaaba are lying drunk in the courtyard of the church.

Unbeliever is he who follows predestination even if he be Muslim, Faithful is he, if he himself is the Divine Destiny.

Psychologically speaking, all states, whether their content is religious or non-religious, are organically determined.

Thou art not for the earth, nor for the Heaven the world is for thee, thou art not for the world.

ALL ABOVE QUOTES FROM SIR ALLAMA IQBAL


Dunning-Kruger Effect - recommended reading for some members and all Indians in general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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post Mar 28 2009, 11:35 AM
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PART 7 is a MUST WATCH ..... excellent answer to the Mullah defending India!!!


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Pakistan ZINDABAAD!

People who have no hold over their process of thinking are likely to be ruined by liberty of thought. If thought is immature, liberty of thought becomes a method of converting men into animals.

It is time that I reopen the tavern of Rumi: the shaikhs of the Kaaba are lying drunk in the courtyard of the church.

Unbeliever is he who follows predestination even if he be Muslim, Faithful is he, if he himself is the Divine Destiny.

Psychologically speaking, all states, whether their content is religious or non-religious, are organically determined.

Thou art not for the earth, nor for the Heaven the world is for thee, thou art not for the world.

ALL ABOVE QUOTES FROM SIR ALLAMA IQBAL


Dunning-Kruger Effect - recommended reading for some members and all Indians in general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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post Mar 28 2009, 11:42 AM
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PART 8 ..... excellent reply to the Ghaddar .... Farook Abdullah!!!


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Pakistan ZINDABAAD!

People who have no hold over their process of thinking are likely to be ruined by liberty of thought. If thought is immature, liberty of thought becomes a method of converting men into animals.

It is time that I reopen the tavern of Rumi: the shaikhs of the Kaaba are lying drunk in the courtyard of the church.

Unbeliever is he who follows predestination even if he be Muslim, Faithful is he, if he himself is the Divine Destiny.

Psychologically speaking, all states, whether their content is religious or non-religious, are organically determined.

Thou art not for the earth, nor for the Heaven the world is for thee, thou art not for the world.

ALL ABOVE QUOTES FROM SIR ALLAMA IQBAL


Dunning-Kruger Effect - recommended reading for some members and all Indians in general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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post Mar 28 2009, 01:14 PM
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True son of the nation... he defends Pakistan in enemy turf while feudal democratic political leaders sit at home watching Indian films.


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post Mar 28 2009, 02:04 PM
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As always General Musharraf towers above the rest,

The most eligable leader Pakistan could have.


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post Mar 28 2009, 03:49 PM
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Bless that man...still fighting for the country like the soldier he is.
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post Mar 29 2009, 03:42 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uW_o7pJr2M

I love how he replys so strongly against Indian " surgical strike" talk !!!


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Pakistan ZINDABAAD!

People who have no hold over their process of thinking are likely to be ruined by liberty of thought. If thought is immature, liberty of thought becomes a method of converting men into animals.

It is time that I reopen the tavern of Rumi: the shaikhs of the Kaaba are lying drunk in the courtyard of the church.

Unbeliever is he who follows predestination even if he be Muslim, Faithful is he, if he himself is the Divine Destiny.

Psychologically speaking, all states, whether their content is religious or non-religious, are organically determined.

Thou art not for the earth, nor for the Heaven the world is for thee, thou art not for the world.

ALL ABOVE QUOTES FROM SIR ALLAMA IQBAL


Dunning-Kruger Effect - recommended reading for some members and all Indians in general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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post Mar 29 2009, 01:38 PM
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I wonder y no haters reply this these sort of threads......
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post Mar 29 2009, 02:01 PM
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No retreat, no surrender,

Pervez Musharraf, you are a wonder.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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post Mar 29 2009, 03:00 PM
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Mush's Latest Interview today Mar. 29th. 2009.
He is going to China on lectures tour (Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu) and UAE.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEScticfI8o


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post Mar 29 2009, 03:34 PM
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With media like this, who needs enemies... Musharraf gave them freedom and they come back and bite him on his ass..... WTF?


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Results of democracy... Na Bijli, na roti, na pani... Aam Pakistani Khappay! I told you so!
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post Mar 29 2009, 03:43 PM
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Cry your heart out nation,

You are like a rudderless ship without the ultimate leader.!!!!!!!!!


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post Mar 29 2009, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Ababeel @ Mar 29 2009, 11:00 PM) *
Mush's Latest Interview today Mar. 29th. 2009.
He is going to China on lectures tour (Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu) and UAE.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEScticfI8o


Excellent.

The best thing is China has invited him, and does mean a lot for a ex-president and ex-general of Pakistan.

Is there a chanche for China still trusts in Musharraf or seeks his guidance on Pakistan?
Besides, are there any plans on eventually visiting JF-17, J-10 and F-22P plants?

Peace :-)
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post Mar 29 2009, 06:41 PM
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What can we do us all as pdf members to defend and promote leaders as Musharraf? Can we start some Media campaign? What can we do? I'm willing to do something with my limited resources, it will benifit the masses and we can get lots of Sawaab :P


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post Mar 29 2009, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (usmanakram @ Mar 30 2009, 01:41 AM) *
What can we do us all as pdf members to defend and promote leaders as Musharraf? Can we start some Media campaign? What can we do? I'm willing to do something with my limited resources, it will benifit the masses and we can get lots of Sawaab :P


best thing to do is be a keyboard warrior and defend the defaming and propaganda against this great patriotic person, start blogs and start writing articles.
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post Mar 30 2009, 10:38 AM
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also can someone turn these poems into videos and out them on youtube as a tribute to musharraf

http://www.geocities.com/nayyarafaq/Pakistan-first.htm
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post Mar 30 2009, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (joshi @ Mar 30 2009, 06:38 PM) *
also can someone turn these poems into videos and out them on youtube as a tribute to musharraf

http://www.geocities.com/nayyarafaq/Pakistan-first.htm


dont think Musharraf will be happy with this trend ..... he's not a king or a sheikh ..... no need for poems ..... my personal view


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Pakistan ZINDABAAD!

People who have no hold over their process of thinking are likely to be ruined by liberty of thought. If thought is immature, liberty of thought becomes a method of converting men into animals.

It is time that I reopen the tavern of Rumi: the shaikhs of the Kaaba are lying drunk in the courtyard of the church.

Unbeliever is he who follows predestination even if he be Muslim, Faithful is he, if he himself is the Divine Destiny.

Psychologically speaking, all states, whether their content is religious or non-religious, are organically determined.

Thou art not for the earth, nor for the Heaven the world is for thee, thou art not for the world.

ALL ABOVE QUOTES FROM SIR ALLAMA IQBAL


Dunning-Kruger Effect - recommended reading for some members and all Indians in general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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post Mar 30 2009, 11:29 AM
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Yes he is our first and last front man ! crushing the bloody Indian face with simple words ! I have enjoy this Videos like a war Film Pakistan against India whooooooooa

Musharraf must join this Brasstacks Club !


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Aoa

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QUOTE (Asad @ Mar 28 2009, 08:14 PM) *
True son of the nation... he defends Pakistan in enemy turf while feudal democratic political leaders sit at home watching Indian films.


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We are nation who are overwhelmed by people who suffer from inferiority complex, get excited with real insignificant things and rants of people who we may like. At the end of the day, great nations remember their heros for what they did and achived, not what they uttered. Chaios, in fighting, deislamization of this country, american colonization, so on, thats the legacy of musharraf and thats how he will be remembered.
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post Apr 1 2009, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE (HKK @ Apr 1 2009, 10:14 AM) *
We are nation who are overwhelmed by people who suffer from inferiority complex, get excited with real insignificant things and rants of people who we may like. At the end of the day, great nations remember their heros for what they did and achived, not what they uttered. Chaios, in fighting, deislamization of this country, american colonization, so on, thats the legacy of musharraf and thats how he will be remembered.



Thats because you delibirately choose to ignore this mans great achievements and would rather harp on about the achievement of low life siyasatdaan.

Steering Pakistan through a treachorous post 9/11 period, facing India down in a million man potential conflict in 2002, 8 years of record breaking economic growth, oh lets not forget...finally bringing the national governments writ over the "semi-autonomous" region to fight the bullshit CAVEMAN, ISlam perverting ideology emanating from the region. Thats how I'll remember him.
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QUOTE (ZPak @ Apr 2 2009, 06:53 AM) *
Thats because you delibirately choose to ignore this mans great achievements and would rather harp on about the achievement of low life siyasatdaan.

Steering Pakistan through a treachorous post 9/11 period, facing India down in a million man potential conflict in 2002, 8 years of record breaking economic growth, oh lets not forget...finally bringing the national governments writ over the "semi-autonomous" region to fight the bullshit CAVEMAN, ISlam perverting ideology emanating from the region. Thats how I'll remember him.


What was so treacherous about 9/11? You and Mushy are the only ones afraid of facing amreeka, the so called cavemen are still putting up a good fight.

We have faced India before, and in situations much worse than those of 2002.

I thought the record economic growth of Pakistan was from 50's till the 80's.

What writ of the govt are you talking about...in the tribal areas? Do we have peace there? Take a hint from the experience at Swat valley.

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PS those tribal areas never came under the rule of national govt so they were never ours to govern, we are the invaders.


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^^^ The tribal areas have always been governed federally, you can only be "invaders" if you crossed over a border. They are a part of Pakistan, they seceeded to Pakistan. The territory is owned by the tribes, but that does not mean the state does not have the right to be present there as and when it see's fit.


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Yes Musharraf gave good answers and defended well , but that means he should run Pakistan again? lol you got to be crazy! the mess we are in now is mostly because of him. Maybe if he comes into power , we can sell of some of his supporters to the US for money?? haha , guys grow up for God sake! dont do blind idol worship. He has good points but his bad points and bad actions shadow all good he did.


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QUOTE (HKK @ Apr 1 2009, 10:14 AM) *
We are nation who are overwhelmed by people who suffer from inferiority complex, get excited with real insignificant things and rants of people who we may like. At the end of the day, great nations remember their heros for what they did and achived, not what they uttered. Chaios, in fighting, deislamization of this country, american colonization, so on, thats the legacy of musharraf and thats how he will be remembered.



Former President Musharraf did achieve a lot compared to the other rulers of Pakistan. Other than Mohammad Ali Jinnah or Liaqat Ali Khan can you give an example of a leader in Pakistan who have done a lot for Pakistan while beset by both internal and external enemies.


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QUOTE (demonslayer @ Apr 2 2009, 10:59 PM) *
Former President Musharraf did achieve a lot compared to the other rulers of Pakistan. Other than Mohammad Ali Jinnah or Liaqat Ali Khan can you give an example of a leader in Pakistan who have done a lot for Pakistan while beset by both internal and external enemies.

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QUOTE (demonslayer @ Apr 2 2009, 10:59 PM) *
Former President Musharraf did achieve a lot compared to the other rulers of Pakistan. Other than Mohammad Ali Jinnah or Liaqat Ali Khan can you give an example of a leader in Pakistan who have done a lot for Pakistan while beset by both internal and external enemies.


ZIA-UL-HAQ .....
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QUOTE (HKK @ Apr 3 2009, 10:50 AM) *
ZIA-UL-HAQ .....


Wow now u r declared totally nuts....
go get urself a handjob and losen up urself


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BRAVO

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QUOTE (ajaj @ Apr 3 2009, 02:42 AM) *
Yes Musharraf gave good answers and defended well , but that means he should run Pakistan again? lol you got to be crazy! the mess we are in now is mostly because of him. Maybe if he comes into power , we can sell of some of his supporters to the US for money?? haha , guys grow up for God sake! dont do blind idol worship. He has good points but his bad points and bad actions shadow all good he did.


Mess started: End of Mush rule.

Mess grew exponentially: One year of democracy. The best revenge indeed. One has to wonder why the Pakistani people are paying the price for this revenge?


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post Apr 16 2009, 02:50 PM
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On the Couch with Koel Show: with Musharraf

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
Part 8
Part 9
Part 10
Part 11
Part 12


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QUOTE (Ababeel @ Apr 16 2009, 03:50 PM) *



I think i have seen logs smarter than this lady


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Check out part 6...

Made me smile...


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post Apr 16 2009, 09:19 PM
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On January 26, 2009, the World Affairs Council was honored to host former president of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, who joined members at the Franklin Institute to discuss the challenges facing Pakistan and Asia.

Following the program, a small groups of the Council's most supportive members joined President Musharraf for a facilitated roundtable discussion.

For support of this program, the Council thanks the Sabina and Raza Bokhari foundation.

Read more about the issues raised by President Musharraf's visit to Philadelphia in Michael Smerconishs columns in the Daily News and The Philadelphia Inquirer.

President Musharraf at the World Affairs Council - January 26, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr2ZE2FZ_P8

Video is 1 hour long Mush comes to stage around 8:36


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Neel Ke Sahil Se Lekar Taabkhak-e-Kashgar

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Bari Mushkil Se Hota Hai Chaman Mien Deed-a-War Paida
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post Apr 17 2009, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE (Ababeel @ Apr 16 2009, 10:19 PM) *
On January 26, 2009, the World Affairs Council was honored to host former president of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, who joined members at the Franklin Institute to discuss the challenges facing Pakistan and Asia.

Following the program, a small groups of the Council's most supportive members joined President Musharraf for a facilitated roundtable discussion.

For support of this program, the Council thanks the Sabina and Raza Bokhari foundation.

Read more about the issues raised by President Musharraf's visit to Philadelphia in Michael Smerconishs columns in the Daily News and The Philadelphia Inquirer.

President Musharraf at the World Affairs Council - January 26, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr2ZE2FZ_P8

Video is 1 hour long Mush comes to stage around 8:36




I think its very interesting that they put H.E. before his name, which I am guessing stands for His excellency ...



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I missed watching this interview. Thanks for posting it ‘visioninthedark.’

Musharraf was more polite than his hosts. I know, easier said than done, but a lawyer kind of person with his facts straight would have railroaded these roaches. The General is comparatively quite a simple person but then honest persons; who aren’t hypocrites, tend to be like that.

BJP talking about terrorism in Pakistan! I guess the destruction of centuries old ‘Babri Mosque;’ without any archeological or historical evidence, and the massacre in Gujarat, killing Christians and burning their Churches, etc. are the things that can be conveniently forgotten since they only happened in the past!

Extremists can come to power in Pakistan! BJP has already been in power for one term.

Pakistan a ‘migraine’ for rest of the World; according to Madelyn Albright! Difference of opinion I guess. How many UN Resolutions are against Israel? Did USA really have any evidence of weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq? Why then the unnecessary massacre of hundreds of thousands of civilians? Did USA want criminals responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks or punish all Afghans? Did the daisy cutters knew precisely who to burn and who not to? etc.

As far as I am concerned, the problems for which Pakistanis are directly responsible aren’t even 1% of the World’s problems as a whole. Yes, calling Pakistan World’s ‘migraine’ and then hoping to neutralize or get control of our nuclear weapons seems like the real motive.

Honor killings are a problem in Pakistan and neither Islam nor any of our Laws permit it but aren’t there any problems for women in India? According to their own government surveys, about 900 Million of them (about 3 times the population of USA!) consume less than 2,300 calories each day; or, they are plain starving. Aren’t women 50% of this group? Isn’t the Hindu Cast System; as enshrined in their holiest religious books Vedas, directly responsible for blocking the upward mobility of Lower Castes and the Minorities in India? I guess ‘not a millionaires Slumbitch’ was part of this Bollywood drama to proclaim once again that India can do no wrong and it is all the fault of Pakistanis!

Bottom line, why do we even bother arguing with them? If they were that good, there won’t even have been Pakistan. As they say, we can only achieve through negotiations what in reality we can achieve on ground. That is, no peace between us through weakness and relying purely on talk. Peace will only come to this region through strength; not through weakness.

We must concentrate on improving our economy, educating our people, etc. We need to confront all those internal and external enemies who want to divide and weaken us. We should be more like a close-knit family than create divided islands or fiefdoms. If they are so highly motivated to work day and night to harm us, we should also unite to work selflessly for a prosperous and strong Pakistan. As they say: Success, the best form of revenge.


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QUOTE (HKK @ Apr 3 2009, 10:50 AM) *
ZIA-UL-HAQ .....



Oh yes! Zia-Ul-Haq was loved so much that he was betrayed and killed a most horrible death one can imagine. Ripped into tiny pieces.


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