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Apr 22 2008, 03:54 AM
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![]() LIEUTENANT ![]() ![]() Group: Full Members Posts: 199 Joined: 26-July 06 Member No.: 10,129 Location: Pakistan |
BAE Systems ‘paid actresses to entertain Saudi prince’
(IMG:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00154/TIM131WC02_154420a.jpg) Glamorous hostesses were allegedly paid tens of thousands of pounds from a BAE Systems slush fund to attend lavish parties where a Saudi prince and his entourage were guests of honour. According to documents seen by The Sunday Times, the money was paid to Anouska Bolton Lee and Karajan Mallinder to meet mortgage, rent, credit card and council tax bills. The two women went to parties in a penthouse suite at the Carlton Tower hotel in Knightsbridge attended by Prince Turki bin Nasser and other senior Saudis involved in the £40 billion al-Yamamah arms deal. The claims will revive the controversy over the Government’s decision to order the Serious Fraud Office (SFO) to abandon a long-running corruption inquiry, which had been examining BAE’s relationship with the Saudi regime. The SFO had amassed a wealth of material and, since 2004, had been attempting to piece together the workings of the alleged £60 million slush fund. But the investigation was abandoned last December after consultations between the Prime Minister and Lord Goldsmith, QC, the Attorney-General. The move followed pressure from Saudi Arabia, which had expressed anger at the SFO inquiry and was threatening to back out of a £10 billion deal to buy Eurofighter jets from BAE. There were also claims that the Saudis would withdraw cooperation on counter-terrorism and intelligence. Robert Wardle, the director of the SFO, said that the inquiry had been discontinued because of “the need to safeguard national and international security”. Lord Goldsmith told Parliament that the investigation had been discontinued in the national interest. But allegations of political interference have persisted, and the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) has expressed serious concerns over the case and asked for an explanation of the decision to drop it. The OECD also raised worries about “continued shortcomings” in British anticorruption legislation. The payments to Ms Mallinder and Ms Bolton Lee were said to have been made in 2001 and 2002 and routed through a travel company. Ms Mallinder, 42, a model and actress, was once engaged to David van Day, the singer in the 1980s pop duo Dollar. Ms Bolton Lee, 29, a former lingerie model, has appeared in a number of acting roles and worked as a presenter on the MTV show Blaggers. A spokesman for BAE Systems said yesterday: “Throughout the long SFO investigation we were consistent in denying allegations of wrongdoing. “The SFO has considered a huge volume of material over the course of its investigation which it then decided should be terminated. We are not making any comment on these continued allegations.” source link BBC lifts the lid on secret BAE slush fund With exclusive interviews with three former insiders, BBC Two's flagship business series The Money Programme reveals a secret £60m slush fund used by the UK's leading arms maker, BAE Systems, to grease the wheels of the biggest arms deals in British history. Prince Turki bin Nasser, a leading member of Saudi Arabia's ruling royal family, was the principal beneficiary of BAE's millions. For almost 20 years, he was responsible for overseeing the Saudi side of the massive al-Yamamah arms deals, worth billions of pounds to BAE. While BAE, formerly known as British Aerospace, consistently refuses to acknowledge the existence of their slush fund, in the programme Bribing for Britain? one of the men who lavished luxury on Prince Turki for more than a decade, Peter Gardiner, speaks out for the first time about what he did. Luxury Mr Gardiner started working with BAE in 1988. The small travel agency he owned soon became a major conduit for BAE's money, channelling over £7m a year. Mr Gardiner's job was to lavish luxury on Prince Turki. On BAE's instructions, he reveals the seemingly endless stream of 5-star hotels, chartered aircraft, luxury limousines, personal security and exotic holidays he would provide for Prince Turki and his entourage. The Prince's family also benefited royally from BAE's bounty. Peter Gardiner gave some of the highlights: Prince Turki's wife got a £170,000 Rolls-Royce as a birthday present. She and her entourage had a chartered Boeing 747 cargo plane laid on to fly home their shopping. The Prince's son enjoyed a £99,000 skiing trip in Colorado for himself and his friends while the Prince's daughter got a video of her wedding costing almost £200,000. All paid for by BAE. Film stars A three-month summer holiday Mr Gardiner organised for the prince and his family in 2001 cost BAE £2m. Mr Gardiner: "This is way beyond the life style of most film stars" "This is way beyond the life style of most film stars," Mr Gardiner tells The Money Programme. "Film stars were quite often around at the large hotels that we were visiting, but they wouldn't be living in this level of affluence." Cash Mr Gardiner was also instructed to provide money; sometimes in cash, sometimes as bank transfers to pay off credit card bills. The bank transfers, Mr Gardiner recalls, averaged $100,000. "We didn't actually ask any questions about it," Mr Gardiner says. "We were told to remit the payment and we did so." Big items or small, the pattern was the same: whatever Prince Turki wanted, Prince Turki got. And BAE paid. Councillor Another insider, Edward Cunningham, also speaking on television for the first time, says he was instructed to look after more junior Saudis officials for BAE. I wasn't happy about it because I felt that they were probably going to sort of shove it under the carpet Martin Bromley Internal BAE investigator Cunningham found himself laying on lavish helpings of London nightlife, settling gambling bills and arranging prostitutes for young Saudi pilots visiting London on al-Yamamah business. "Some of them came from the area where I lived," Mr Cunningham told the programme, "which was very embarrassing for me as I was a Labour councillor in that area." For officials at the Saudi embassy, Mr Cunningham says he offered canteens of gold or silver cutlery which retailed at £1,000 apiece. "I was inundated by everyone who was of any standing in the embassy," Mr Cunningham said. "They all wanted gold. They wouldn't take the silver ones." Visitors The programme also describes how BAE disguised where their slush fund money was going with the help of Tony Winship, a retired Royal Air Force wing commander and long-standing friend of Prince Turki. Mr Cunningham: "They all wanted gold. They wouldn't take the silver." Every month, the wing commander would replace the detailed records documenting the slush fund spending with a single-page invoice. For August 1995, for example, the invoice simply reads: "Accommodation services and Support for Overseas visitors" with a total charged of "£987,365", giving no clue as to what the money had actually been spent on. Mr Gardiner says the wing commander did this because "he wanted to keep it very private, very secret, he didn't want prying eyes looking at any of these transactions". Enquiry The Money Programme has identified Steve Mogford as the BAE executive who authorised a series of these slush fund invoices. Mr Mogford is now a director of BAE and chief operating officer of the company. In the last four months of 1995 alone, the programme reveals, he signed off slush fund invoices worth over £3m. Mr Mogford is also identified as the BAE executive who met Martin Bromley, an internal BAE investigator, in 1996 and ordered him to stop an enquiry he was then conducting into the slush fund. Shock Speaking exclusively to The Money Programme, Mr Bromley says: "I wasn't happy about it because I felt that they were probably going to sort of shove it under the carpet." "I was a bit shell-shocked when I came out of the meeting, I have to say." Mr Mogford refused to be interviewed for the programme, as did BAE. Wing Commander Winship is not answering questions either, nor is his friend Prince Turki bin Nasser. In a statement, the Saudi Arabian embassy told The Money Programme that they were shocked to hear about these allegations of corrupt practice, adding, that "fraudulent behaviour of any kind is not condoned by the Saudi government or embassy in any way". In February 2002, the UK Parliament toughened up the law on bribery and corruption, outlawing payments to foreign government officials. With government investigators now probing the slush fund operation with the help of Peter Gardiner's extensive records, it may get more difficult for BAE to go on avoiding the question: Were they, in fact, "Bribing for Britain"? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In response to the allegations made by the Money Programme, BAE Systems gave the BBC the following statement: "BAE Systems is disappointed and surprised that the BBC's Money Programme and other media are repeating nine-year-old allegations that are ill-informed and wrong. The facts are that the Al Yamamah contract, which is the subject of these allegations, is a contract between the governments of the United Kingdom and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. "BAE Systems can state categorically that there is not now and there has never been in existence what the media refers to as a 'slush fund'. Neither has BAE Systems or any of its officers or employees been involved in false accounting. "BAE Systems operates in accordance with the laws of the United Kingdom and all other countries in which it operates." All paid for by BAE. source -------------------- Imam Ali (a.s) said : "An Un-Islamic Government may last a while, Tyranny cannot Endure".
I tell Barak, and this is my new pledge, your five divisions will be crushed on our mountains, valleys, houses and villages and with them, your usurping entity will be destroyed. Mofaz, Barak, (Chief of Staff Gabi) Ashkenazi and others are speaking about a swift and successful war, but I tell them that, even though we hate to see this war happening, our next victory will be definite, unequivocally decisive and crystal clear. This army will see in the battlefields, in the eyes of the resistance fighters and in their fists, things they have never seen since the establishment of the Zionist entity, God willing.” Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah |
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Apr 22 2008, 04:48 AM
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![]() GENERAL ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 3,788 Joined: 22-June 06 From: Riyadh Member No.: 9,689 Location: KSA |
its rubbish and not true unless they proove this crap by hard evidence like videos or photos
secondly , this is old news. it was posted alot of times before and i understand whats going on in your head when you posted this expired rumors. its because of my stance against hizbulla terrorists. watch this clip from the movie (around the world in 80 days) starting from 3:58 to 4:59 it shows the progress of rumors and lies in England lol (for fun) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vooyhxyde0 -------------------- (قل هل يستوي الذين يعلمون و الذين لا يعلمون)
₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ the Houthi-Saudi War news http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/index.php?showtopic=85660 http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/index.php?showtopic=87248 ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ Saudi Air Force In Red Flag Exercise (photos + Documentary Video) http://pakistanidefenceforum.com//index.php?showtopic=76269 ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ www.MODA.gov.sa , www.RSAF.gov.sa , www.Bariah.gov.sa , www.SANG.gov.sa , www.RSADF.gov.sa www.GIP.gov.sa , www.MOFA.gov.sa , www.CTIC.org.sa , www.RoyalGuard.gov.sa , www.RSNF.gov.sa ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ if you have any Question About SAUDI ARABIA , then ask it on the thread at the link below and i'll answer you http://pakistanidefenceforum.com/index.php?showtopic=56541 |
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Apr 22 2008, 08:50 AM
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![]() LIEUTENANT ![]() ![]() Group: Full Members Posts: 199 Joined: 26-July 06 Member No.: 10,129 Location: Pakistan |
its rubbish and not true unless they proove this crap by hard evidence like videos or photos secondly , this is old news. it was posted alot of times before and i understand whats going on in your head when you posted this expired rumors. its because of my stance against hizbulla terrorists. watch this clip from the movie (around the world in 80 days) starting from 3:58 to 4:59 it shows the progress of rumors and lies in England lol (for fun) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vooyhxyde0 firstly thanx for the link. :) secondly, how do u always knows that every weird news coming from western media about saudis is bullshit and all stuff related to iran or Hizballah is true,i mean is there any general formula for this? i think u r going through patriotic phobia on its last stage. (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/PakistanFlag.gif) -------------------- Imam Ali (a.s) said : "An Un-Islamic Government may last a while, Tyranny cannot Endure".
I tell Barak, and this is my new pledge, your five divisions will be crushed on our mountains, valleys, houses and villages and with them, your usurping entity will be destroyed. Mofaz, Barak, (Chief of Staff Gabi) Ashkenazi and others are speaking about a swift and successful war, but I tell them that, even though we hate to see this war happening, our next victory will be definite, unequivocally decisive and crystal clear. This army will see in the battlefields, in the eyes of the resistance fighters and in their fists, things they have never seen since the establishment of the Zionist entity, God willing.” Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah |
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Apr 22 2008, 09:35 AM
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![]() GENERAL Group: Moderator Posts: 22,743 Joined: 16-October 02 From: UK Member No.: 109 |
Does anyone really care? Who here is naive enough to think these types of things don't happen in the world of big business?
-------------------- -=-=-=-=Faith, Unity, Discipline-=-=-=-=
Kashmir is the jugular Vein of Pakistan and no nation or country would tolerate its jugular vein remains under the sword of the enemy. -Muhammed Ali Jinnah -=-=-=-=FREE KASHMIR-=-=-=-= These eye's do not wander in lust, for my queen of hearts has graced them with love. "We gave our today for your tommorrow ". |
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Apr 22 2008, 10:12 AM
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![]() MAJOR GENERAL ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 2,597 Joined: 29-August 05 Member No.: 7,747 Location: Lahore |
firstly thanx for the link. :) secondly, how do u always knows that every weird news coming from western media about saudis is bullshit and all stuff related to iran or Hizballah is true,i mean is there any general formula for this? i think u r going through patriotic phobia on its last stage. (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/PakistanFlag.gif) I agree. Saudiarabian u really need to understand facts n figures! -------------------- I dont know how the World War 3 will be faught, But i do know that World War 4 will be faught with sticks and stones!
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Apr 22 2008, 10:18 AM
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![]() GENERAL ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 3,788 Joined: 22-June 06 From: Riyadh Member No.: 9,689 Location: KSA |
firstly thanx for the link. :) secondly, how do u always knows that every weird news coming from western media about saudis is bullshit and all stuff related to iran or Hizballah is true,i mean is there any general formula for this? i think u r going through patriotic phobia on its last stage. (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/PakistanFlag.gif) you said it. its because its weird. Prince Turki bin Nasir is an old grandfather and a very decent respectable man. when they claim they hired those women for his pleasure then its nonsense and untrue and they have to proove this allegation and show their evidence to make us believe them. as for Iran and hizbulla , all i said has its proofs and evidences. i don't collect silly articles written by someone who get paid for it to use them as evidence. instead , i use videos , photos , qoutes or official statements. -------------------- (قل هل يستوي الذين يعلمون و الذين لا يعلمون)
₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ the Houthi-Saudi War news http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/index.php?showtopic=85660 http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/index.php?showtopic=87248 ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ Saudi Air Force In Red Flag Exercise (photos + Documentary Video) http://pakistanidefenceforum.com//index.php?showtopic=76269 ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ www.MODA.gov.sa , www.RSAF.gov.sa , www.Bariah.gov.sa , www.SANG.gov.sa , www.RSADF.gov.sa www.GIP.gov.sa , www.MOFA.gov.sa , www.CTIC.org.sa , www.RoyalGuard.gov.sa , www.RSNF.gov.sa ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ if you have any Question About SAUDI ARABIA , then ask it on the thread at the link below and i'll answer you http://pakistanidefenceforum.com/index.php?showtopic=56541 |
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Apr 22 2008, 11:06 AM
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![]() GENERAL ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 9,890 Joined: 18-August 03 Member No.: 2,208 Location: Scotland |
What has this got to do with Pakistan or military?
-------------------- "The mosques are our barracks, the minarets our bayonets, the domes our helmets, and the believers our soldiers"
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Davos Switzerland Deeper than the oceans higher than the mountains China-Pakistan Allied Forces brothers In Arms 'Shaheen teri parwaaz sey jalta hai zamana, Tu bazo-e-par sey issey aur hawa dey'-------JF17 Thunder |
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Apr 22 2008, 02:28 PM
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![]() LIEUTENANT ![]() ![]() Group: Full Members Posts: 199 Joined: 26-July 06 Member No.: 10,129 Location: Pakistan |
What has this got to do with Pakistan or military? ahm!i think this section is called global military forum. -------------------- Imam Ali (a.s) said : "An Un-Islamic Government may last a while, Tyranny cannot Endure".
I tell Barak, and this is my new pledge, your five divisions will be crushed on our mountains, valleys, houses and villages and with them, your usurping entity will be destroyed. Mofaz, Barak, (Chief of Staff Gabi) Ashkenazi and others are speaking about a swift and successful war, but I tell them that, even though we hate to see this war happening, our next victory will be definite, unequivocally decisive and crystal clear. This army will see in the battlefields, in the eyes of the resistance fighters and in their fists, things they have never seen since the establishment of the Zionist entity, God willing.” Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah |
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Apr 22 2008, 04:14 PM
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GENERAL ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 5,617 Joined: 6-September 03 Member No.: 2,581 Location: Pakistan |
Aoa
Why is everyone trying to malign the Saudis all the time... Now even if it is true - well I agree with Platinum - so what? these kind of things happen - does it mean that the whole Saudi society is currupt and what have you? no - just would mean that this particular individual (or those involved) are. Big deal! These days - Pakistan and KSA are fair game for all. w/salaam -------------------- In case I forgot here is it is... Asalaamualikum
"There is none worthy of worship but He, glorified be He: [Far is He] above that which they associate [with Him]" (Qur'an 9:31) Not equal are the owners of the fire and the owners of the Garden. The owners of the Garden, they are the victorious. [Quran 59:20] Allah knows best [who are] your enemies. Allah is sufficient as a Friend, and Allah is sufficient as a Helper. [4:45] Fudayl ibn Iyaad said: "Verily, if an action was done sincerely for the sake of Allah but was not correct, it will not be accepted by Allah. And if the action was correct but not done sincerely it will not be accepted until the act is sincere and correct. For it to be sincere, it has to be done for the sake of Allah, and in order for it to be correct, it has to agree to the sunnah." the Messenger of Allah pbuh says; “whoever does not care about the affairs of the Muslims is not one of them.” islamqa.com |
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Apr 22 2008, 04:27 PM
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![]() GENERAL ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 11,028 Joined: 15-October 02 Member No.: 88 |
Aoa Why is everyone trying to malign the Saudis all the time... Now even if it is true - well I agree with Platinum - so what? these kind of things happen - does it mean that the whole Saudi society is currupt and what have you? no - just would mean that this particular individual (or those involved) are. Big deal! These days - Pakistan and KSA are fair game for all. w/salaam Bro ... as long as I and those like me have a breath left in them ... and a drop of blood still in our veins .... Pakistan will never be fair game for anyone ... NEVER! - and that refers to all FOREIGNERS!! -------------------- Pakistan ZINDABAAD!
People who have no hold over their process of thinking are likely to be ruined by liberty of thought. If thought is immature, liberty of thought becomes a method of converting men into animals. It is time that I reopen the tavern of Rumi: the shaikhs of the Kaaba are lying drunk in the courtyard of the church. Unbeliever is he who follows predestination even if he be Muslim, Faithful is he, if he himself is the Divine Destiny. Psychologically speaking, all states, whether their content is religious or non-religious, are organically determined. Thou art not for the earth, nor for the Heaven the world is for thee, thou art not for the world. ALL ABOVE QUOTES FROM SIR ALLAMA IQBAL Dunning-Kruger Effect - recommended reading for some members and all Indians in general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect |
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Apr 22 2008, 04:30 PM
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GENERAL ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 16,971 Joined: 30-December 03 From: Pakistan Member No.: 3,670 Location: Canada |
What has this got to do with Pakistan or military? ...because many PDF members are behind this drama. They want the Saudi EF deal to go down the drain so that the Saudis buy a lot of Rafale, which would then influence countries like Greece, Algeria, Malaysia and our own Pakistan to buy the French fighter. In the end it is for our national defence...don't worry. -------------------- Formerly 'Mark Sien' & 'Diving Falcon' ...
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