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[PakSniper]

The question is for qnak, so kindly butt out.

ok, caesarito.: the kido abducted by galactic pornotic species.       

[gnak]

I watched the movie called "Fire in the Sky". It was about an alien abduction -- very interesting movie. qnak do you know what Alien beings are shown below, they were shown experimenting on humans. Some nasty scenes.

did some research the movie is loosely based on the real life story of Travis Walton abductee http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=rM7e3P...feature=related

in his interview he described them as typical greys accompanied by nordic human looking aliens presumably clones

the movie alien looks similar to the alien Dr Reed bashed over the head with a stick after it killed his dog



also similar... the italian women with the aborted alien fetus story also claims she was abducted http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=yRPV-N...feature=related



anyway answer ur question they most likley greys, synthetic robots

[Caesar]

Thanks gnak. I also saw the movie "The Fourth Kind". Frankly I wasn't expecting it to be that scary! It is about an ongoing unsolved mystery in Alaska, where one town has seen an extraordinary number of unexplained disappearances during the past 40 years and there are accusations of a federal cover up.

The movie shows Aliens communicating using the "Sumerian" language. It was very good movie, edge of the seat! I also didn't know that the film was a box office success, earning US$47.46 million worldwide, from an estimated $10 million budget.

[PakSniper]

Ok gnak and caesar i have a question, which galactic species are involved in these phenomenon here????

Hessdalen Lights?  LINK

I want your analyse, sincerely.

[gnak]

Thanks gnak. I also saw the movie "The Fourth Kind". Frankly I wasn't expecting it to be that scary! It is about an ongoing unsolved mystery in Alaska, where one town has seen an extraordinary number of unexplained disappearances during the past 40 years and there are accusations of a federal cover up.

The movie shows Aliens communicating using the "Sumerian" language. It was very good movie, edge of the seat! I also didn't know that the film was a box office success, earning US$47.46 million worldwide, from an estimated $10 million budget.

yea i heard of that movie... u know its not based on real life story as the movie claims... thats just smart advertising to trick the weak minded

btw u heard of the movie demons and angels the original title was illuminati wonder why they changed it lol...

Ok gnak and caesar i have a question, which galactic species are involved in these phenomenon here????

Hessdalen Lights? LINK

I want your analyse, sincerely.

this from the guy who laughed at my enlil elvis comparison lol thats ok no offense taken... i got it from a book i read called pleiadian agenda

Hessdalen Lights my opinion hate to sound stereotypical but my best guess ufo... i remember hearing theres underground alien bases in that region

[Caesar]

yea i heard of that movie... u know its not based on real life story as the movie claims... thats just smart advertising to trick the weak minded

btw u heard of the movie demons and angels the original title was illuminati wonder why they changed it lol...

Well Angels & Demons is based on Dan Brown's bestseller book. And Tom Hanks is the lead actor again just as in Da Vinci code. I saw the movie but it wasn't good.

[PakSniper]

this from the guy who laughed at my enlil elvis comparison lol thats ok no offense taken... i got it from a book i read called pleiadian agenda

Hessdalen Lights my opinion hate to sound stereotypical but my best guess ufo... i remember hearing theres underground alien bases in that region

yeah i know, i laughed and etc and i apologyse for. This doesn't mean that i trust your nuts theories    but these lights are so bizarre, its dont react like others ufolike things, its deviate and draw a complexe route. it seems me these things are completely differents from what we know about ufos. No?

[gnak]

yeah i know, i laughed and etc and i apologyse for. This doesn't mean that i trust your nuts theories    but these lights are so bizarre, its dont react like others ufolike things, its deviate and draw a complexe route. it seems me these things are completely differents from what we know about ufos. No?

gg i know u where bs'ing so no offense taken... i dunno i seen a few ufo vids where the ufo look like balls of light flashing in an out and changing colours http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=_TubIw...feature=related

[gnak]

George Kavassilas australian contactee

ok i heard bout this guy for a while... his first videos on net u find tells bout ascended masters, jesus, archangels u name all those BS thats floating around

that gets mixed up with the truth... however since then he admitted he was deceived and that the negatives aliens are very good at deceiving and giving out false love

now hes more recent material is makin more sense to me. long story short he says in past bout galactic federation of light and lord sananda(jesus) coming to rescue all of us

in their ships was false... and wats actually happening is they send a group from their empire to play the part of the bad guys (greys) then the higher echelons of the empire

come and portray themselves as our saviours (good cop bad cop scenario) wat he calls the grand deception find more on his site http://georgekavassilas.org/

[Pak-Eye]

gnak:

Ever heard of Project Blue Beam OR Tesla Scalar Wars?

What is your say on it?

[gnak]

gnak:

Ever heard of Project Blue Beam OR Tesla Scalar Wars?

What is your say on it?

i heard bout just every conspiracy to do with aliens...

blue beam from wat i heard is some kind of holographic technology. they say the planes that hit wtc on 9/11 were infact holograms  

scalar weapons hard to explain cus im not physics oriented, shoots some kind of invisible wave of energy that cause the target to shatter

[Pak-Eye]

i heard bout just every conspiracy to do with aliens...

blue beam from wat i heard is some kind of holographic technology. they say the planes that hit wtc on 9/11 were infact holograms  

scalar weapons hard to explain cus im not physics oriented, shoots some kind of invisible wave of energy that cause the target to shatter

So there is possibility of certain UFO sightings could be actually mere holographic images?

[Caesar]

Well one of the aims of "Project Blue Beam", is to replace all religions with ONE SINGLE RELIGION!

If this can bring peace for ordinary people than this has my full support.

[Pak-Eye]

Well one of the aims of "Project Blue Beam", is to replace all religions with ONE SINGLE RELIGION!

If this can bring peace for ordinary people than this has my full support.

Man we thought the planet earth deserves democracy, right?

Single religion (actually it wud be system), don't you think is more like dictatorship?

[Caesar]

Man we thought the planet earth deserves democracy, right?

Single religion (actually it wud be system), don't you think is more like dictatorship?

Once again if dictatorship is needed to bring peace and stop the madness of people killing one another on the orders of 'Religions' than so be it. The centuries of experiments with the existing systems including religions has failed miserably. Presently Humanity is taking one step forward and ten steps backwards in terms of its progress as an intelligent species.

The only positive thing going for us is the fact that existing and newer generations have a deep know how of technology, and technology is like their backyard. It won't be easy to use technology to deceive people.

[gnak]

Man we thought the planet earth deserves democracy, right?

Single religion (actually it wud be system), don't you think is more like dictatorship?

it would be more than a just dictatorship...

wats really at stake here is we wont be able to dictate our own evolution anymore(physically and spiritually)... there will be no more free will

i read within the orion empire death is no longer a means to escape, that their control extends beyond physical life

now think bout it do really want a system/program like that inplace here?

The only positive thing going for us is the fact that existing and newer generations have a deep know how of technology, and technology is like their backyard. It won't be easy to use technology to deceive people.

i doubt it be just hologram ufos, i think it will be real ufos with real aliens... except they wont be tellin us the truth... they pretend to be something they are not... and most people will be none the wiser

now if scroll up to my post bout George Kavassilas. he sums it all up perfectly saying bad guys also pretend to be the good guys... and for people who don't have a point of reference wont know the difference

[Pak-Eye]

Thanks for your inputs gnak and Caeser

Somehow I find gnak and myself on the same picture; might be supriise for some; one is kind of athiest, other a Muslim

But what gnak has said above, more or less, happened to be the case

I agree that the technology that Americans or more precisely zionists have access to, is decades ahead of our perceptions; do you really believe they would have never experimented on research left by Tesla? I don't think so to start with

Yes, they would 'claim' that they are aliens and would have 'means' to prove it also; but as gnak said, the reality would be quite the otherwise

I believe these 'aliens' have been with us all along right from day one; the only reason they are getting stronger & more visible now is because someone is opening 'gates' and giving them more access to this world

Now you need to figure it out who are the people from our side aiding them

[Pak-Eye]

Specially for you gnak:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=130606

I bet you would like 'homo jinns' section as 'shape shifting reptiliens' is one hot topic in west nowadays

[Caesar]

i read within the orion empire death is no longer a means to escape, that their control extends beyond physical life

gnak, could you please elaborate on this -- I am curious to know how they have control over after life?

[gnak]

gnak, could you please elaborate on this -- I am curious to know how they have control over after life?

once sentence from the book "prism of lyra" from the chapter of "black league" describe the following

Within the souls of these repressed people existed a great desperation. They knew the extent of the Orion Empire's control. The Empire had devised ways to control astral bodies; death was no longer freedom

[gnak]

the new age movement is BS at is its core most channellers/mediums are also false either they genuinely believe the disinformation they presenting or they down right charlatans

people who abandon religion and look to journey down the spiritual path usually fall into the new age movement... which is spiritually just as damaging as religion in terms of the BS they feeding u

heres the explanation from George Kavassilas i might not 100% believe everything he says but he hit the nail right on its head bout the new age thing and channellers

George Kavassilas dissing new age

What really astonished me was when I became aware of the connection between the Jesus of the church with the Lord Sananda in the new age movement. Apparently Lord Sananda is the cosmic name of the ascended Jesus, so
essentially it is the same story at the core.

So here we have it. The beings that created the church and its dogmatic religions realise that our consciousness was rising in frequency and the old dogmatic programs of the church were no longer controlling as many people. So these
entities / beings created a new paradigm which we call the new age movement with a new fancier and cosmic version, a more sophisticated version of Jesus to attract and capture the minds and hearts of all those who are now vibrating beyond the paradigm of the original church dogma.

George Kavassilas dissing channellers

The connection one has in the false realm is on a mental level and communication occurs using a form of telepathy that stimulates and strokes the central nervous system giving the unsuspecting or in-experienced person the feeling of a benevolent presence and euphoria. This is what it feels like to be connected to an artificial intelligence posing as benevolence.

[gnak]

George Kavassilas finest hour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BL88C9p8KI...layer_embedded#!

[Simpleton]

Evidence for ET increasing daily, but not proven
Wave of new discoveries make it seem more likely that there is life somewhere else in the universe, researchers say.
By Seth Borenstein

ASSOCIATED PRESS

Updated: 7:43 p.m. Saturday, Dec. 11, 2010

Published: 7:36 p.m. Saturday, Dec. 11, 2010


WASHINGTON — Lately, a handful of new discoveries make it seem more likely that we are not alone that there is life somewhere else in the universe.

In the past two weeks, scientists have reported that there are three times as many stars as they previously thought. Another group of researchers discovered a microbe that can live on arsenic, expanding our understanding of how life can thrive under the harshest environments. And earlier this year, astronomers for the first time said they'd found a potentially habitable planet.

"The evidence is just getting stronger and stronger," said Carl Pilcher, director of NASA's Astrobiology Institute, which studies the origins, evolution and possibilities of life in the universe. "I think anybody looking at this evidence is going to say, 'There's got to be life out there.'"

A caveat: Because much of this research is new, scientists are still debating how solid the conclusions are. Another reason not to get too excited is that the search for life starts small — microscopically small — and then looks to evolution for more. The first signs of life elsewhere are more likely to be closer to slime mold than to ET.

What the most recent findings did was both increase the number of potential homes for life and broaden the definition of what life is. That means the probability for alien life is higher than ever before, agree 10 scientists interviewed by The Associated Press.

"All of these have gone in the direction of encouraging life out there, and they didn't have to," said Seth Shostak, senior astronomer at the SETI Institute in California.

Two new studies published online Wednesday in the journal Nature add to the interest in weird planets outside our solar system, though they don't exactly make a stronger case for life. One study found a super-hot planet much bigger than Jupiter that seems to be full of carbon in its atmosphere. In the other study, astronomers found a star with at least four large young planets, challenging past assumptions that there's a limit to how many huge planets a star system could have.

Scientists who looked for life were once dismissed as working on the fringes of science. Now, Shostak said, it's the other way around. He said that given the mounting evidence, to believe now that Earth is the only place harboring life is essentially like believing in miracles. "And astronomers tend not to believe in miracles."

Astronomers, however, do believe in proof. They don't have proof of life yet. There's no green alien or even a bacterium that scientists can point to and say it's alive and alien.

But "there are real things we can point to and show that being optimistic about life elsewhere is not silly," said NASA astrobiologist Chris McKay, who has worked on searches for life on Mars and extreme places on Earth.

First, there's the basic question of where such life might exist. Until a few years ago, astronomers thought life was likely to be found only on or around planets circling stars like our sun. So that's where the search of life focused — on stars like ours.

That left out the universe's most common stars: red dwarfs, which are smaller than our sun and dimmer. Up to 90 percent of the stars in the universe are red dwarfs. Astronomers assumed planets circling them would be devoid of life.

But three years ago, NASA got the top experts in the field together. They crunched numbers and realized that life could exist on planets orbiting red dwarfs. The planets would have to be closer to their star and wouldn't rotate as quickly as Earth. The scientists considered habitability and found that conditions near these small stars wouldn't be similar to Earth but could still be acceptable for life.

That didn't open up just billions of new worlds, but many, many times that.

Last week, a Yale University astronomer said he estimates there are 300 sextillion stars — triple the previous number. Lisa Kaltenegger of Harvard University said scientists now believe that as many as half the stars in our galaxy have planets that are two to 10 times the size of Earth — "super Earths" that might sustain life.

Then the question is, how many of those are in the so-called Goldilocks zone — not too hot, not too cold? The discovery of such a planet was announced in April, although some scientists are challenging that.

The other key question is: How likely is life? Over the past decade and a half, scientists have found Earth life growing in acid, Antarctica and other extreme environments. But nothing topped this month's news of a lake bacterium that could thrive on arsenic instead of phosphorous. Six major elements have long been considered essential for life: carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur. This changed that definition of life.

With life more likely in extreme places, the number of planets that are potential homes for life increases, said Kaltenegger, who also works at the Max Planck Institute in Germany.

Donald Brownlee, an astronomer at the University of Washington, is less optimistic. He believes what's likely to be out there is not going to be easy to find — or that meaningful. If it's out there, he said, it's probably microbes that can't be seen easily from great distances. Also, the different geologic and atmospheric forces on planets might keep life from evolving into something complex or intelligent, he said.

If life is going to be found, Mars is the most likely candidate. And any life is probably underground, where there is water, astronomers said. Other possibilities include Jupiter's moon Europa and Saturn's moons Enceladus and Titan.

There's also a chance that a telescope could spot a planet with an atmosphere that suggests photosynthesis is occurring, Kaltenegger said.

And there's the possibility of finding alien life on Earth, perhaps in a meteorite, or something with a different set of DNA.

And finally, advanced aliens could find us, or we could hear their radio transmissions, McKay said. That's what the SETI Institute is about — listening for intelligent life.

At his public lectures, Shostak bets a cup of coffee for everyone in the audience that scientists will find proof of alien life by about 2026. The odds, he figures, have never been more in his favor.

[gnak]

bbc internet add wtf

u tell me this doesnt make u think alien lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OT5jQCaM8Y

[GreenBeret]

it would be more than a just dictatorship...

wats really at stake here is we wont be able to dictate our own evolution anymore(physically and spiritually)... there will be no more free will

i read within the orion empire death is no longer a means to escape, that their control extends beyond physical life

There are ways and means for souls and spirits to escape, after they have left the bodies. The souls can be made weaker or stronger while its inside the human body, thus making it immune to capture.
I dont know whats Orion Empire, but I believe its something negative, if its exists, which i doubt it does. Anyways, control of soul/spirit after death is not a difficult phenomenon or in control of a single entity.

[gnak]

There are ways and means for souls and spirits to escape, after they have left the bodies. The souls can be made weaker or stronger while its inside the human body, thus making it immune to capture.
I dont know whats Orion Empire, but I believe its something negative, if its exists, which i doubt it does. Anyways, control of soul/spirit after death is not a difficult phenomenon or in control of a single entity.

my mistake here is i shouldnt call them orion empire cus it sounds bias... non bias name is orion group

so i gonna spend some effort in explaining wat the orion group is since no one here read any of my loooong articles i used to post  

orion group is one of the 3 big powers in this galaxy the other 2 being the reptilian federation, and the confederation(mostly human races)

now orion group comprises of 7 races according to a expert on the subject

the hierarchy of this faction is reptilian queen royalty then the tall greys the administrators then the reptilian warriors the military and finally humans the working class

theres also resistance movement within this group(empire) called the black league (note neither side is benevolent) following quote is from lyssa royale

These resisters were fighting the Empire and both the resisters and the Empire were using the same methodologies with which to bring about their desires. In a tug-of-war, for instance, if the weight is balanced on both sides, neither person is going to win. It took them a very, very long time to realize that all they were doing was holding a balance through the amount of negativity each group placed on the other.

now ppl ask wat does orion got to do with earth?... well alot the souls here incarnated from orion / maldek. then ppl ask wat is maldek? maldek was their planet wen they controlled this part of the galaxy a loooong time ago

now the reason they want control us together with the draconians is they want to keep as much of the galaxy within 3rd density(including us) cus wen the universe evolves everything goes up in frequency because of the negativity they hold

they cant evolve past the forth density... now why is it important they keep as much of the galaxy in third density? wen everything evolves upwards the one left behind create a sag in the universal fabric eventually the sag becomes too heavy

and breaks off. wat we call black holes the andromedan council knows this and they want to keep the orion group and dracos within the space they already hold not allow them to expand their territory cus eventually their own negativity will

be their own demise cus when their star explodes they get sucked in to a black hole its gameover for them. hopefully this explain the basics to ppl unaware or maybe im barking up the wrong tree who knows  

[Balallar]

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[GreenBeret]

my mistake here is i shouldnt call them orion empire cus it sounds bias... non bias name is orion group

so i gonna spend some effort in explaining wat the orion group is since no one here read any of my loooong articles i used to post  

orion group is one of the 3 big powers in this galaxy the other 2 being the reptilian federation, and the confederation(mostly human races)

now orion group comprises of 7 races according to a expert on the subject

the hierarchy of this faction is reptilian queen royalty then the tall greys the administrators then the reptilian warriors the military and finally humans the working class

theres also resistance movement within this group(empire) called the black league (note neither side is benevolent) following quote is from lyssa royale

This wasnt the point of discussion

[gnak]

This wasnt the point of discussion

sorry mate my mistake i thought i was replying to this part of ur comment

I dont know whats Orion Empire, but I believe its something negative, if its exists, which i doubt it does

if u talking bout souls made weaker during a lifetime its in my signature  

[GreenBeret]

sorry mate my mistake i thought i was replying to this part of ur comment

if u talking bout souls made weaker during a lifetime its in my signature  

Its not that complicated, as its in ur signature. make a person do all actions that are opposed by Allah and the soul will lose its track and become weak whereas the person will only be concentrating on his body and not his "nafs".

[Caesar]

Believe it or not Earth will be getting a Second Sun!!!

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http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech...c-1225991009247

Tatooine's twin suns - coming to a planet near you just as soon as Betelgeuse explodes

Betelgeuse losing mass
Explosion will create "new sun"
May be set for 2012 appearance
IT'S the ultimate experience for Star Wars fans - staring forlornly off into the distance as twin suns sink into the horizon.

Yet it's not just a figment of George Lucas's imagination - twin suns are real. And here's the big news - they could be coming to Earth.

Yes, any day now we see a second sun light up the sky, if only for a matter of weeks.

The infamous red super-giant star in Orion’s nebula - Betelgeuse - is predicted to go gangbusters and the impending super-nova may reach Earth before 2012, and when it does, all of our wildest Star Wars dreams will come true.

The second biggest star in the universe is losing mass, a typical indication that a gravitation collapse is occurring.

When that happens, we'll get our second sun, according to Dr Brad Carter, Senior Lecturer of Physics at the University of Southern Queensland.

“This old star is running out of fuel in its centre”, Dr Carter said.

“This fuel keeps Betelgeuse shining and supported. When this fuel runs out the star will literally collapse in upon itself and it will do so very quickly.”

When this happens a giant explosion will occur, tens of millions of times brighter than the sun.

The bad news is, it could also happen in a million years. But who's counting?

The important thing is, one day, night will become day for several weeks on Earth.

“This is the final hurrah for the star,” says Dr Carter.

“It goes bang, it explodes, it lights up - we’ll have incredible brightness for a brief period of time for a couple of weeks and then over the coming months it begins to fade and then eventually it will be very hard to see at all.”

The interwebs is being flooded with doomsday theories saying the impending supernova confirms the Mayan calendar’s prediction of the Armageddon in 2012.

These conspiracies aren’t helped by the word “Betelgeuse” being associated with the devil.

Though it is a derivation of the Arabic phrase “yad Al Jauza” meaning the “hand of Al-Jauza” referring to a mysterious woman that controls the order of the universe, it hasn’t stopped some people from clearing out their bunkers and stocking up on tinned food.

Far from being a sign of the apocalypse, according to Dr Carter the supernova will provide Earth with elements necessary for survival and continuity.

“When a star goes bang, the first we will observe of it is a rain of tiny particles called nuetrinos,” says Dr Carter.

“They will flood through the Earth and bizarrely enough, even though the supernova we see visually will light up the night sky, 99 per cent of the energy in the supernova is released in these particles that will come through our bodies and through the Earth with absolutely no harm whatsoever.”

Stars such as the supernova produce elements that are critical to life on Earth.

Quite literally, the whole of Earth and our solar system is made of star stuff, including most of the heavy elements of the Periodic Table.

“It literally makes things like gold, silver - all the heavy elements - even things like uranium….a star like Betelgeuse is instantly forming for us all sorts of heavy elements and atoms that our own Earth and our own bodies have from long past supernovi,” Dr carter said.

Some experts have speculated Betelgeuse’s explosion may cause a neutron star or result in the formation of a black hole approximately 1300 light years from Earth, but Dr Carter says it could go either way.

“There’s a reasonably even chance of a neutron star or a black hole”, he says.



“If it were me, I’d suspect it would more likely become a black hole at 20 solar masses.”

[safdar]

Believe it or not Earth will be getting a Second Sun!!!


http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech...c-1225991009247


“If it were me, I’d suspect it would more likely become a black hole at 20 solar masses.”

There you go chesarae, three pagan cheers for you for sharing us this prophecy.

Hiphip… hooray… hiphip hooray… hiphip hooray!

if Im the first one to spot it, I shall proclaim it "The searing bollocks of the skies"

what about you? what would you name it?

[Caesar]

what about you? what would you name it?

safdar ....  

Why people like you even bother coming to this thread, they should stick to religious forums.

[safdar]

well, Chesarae. I’m a muslim not necessarily a very religious person or such, I'm also fascinated by extra terrestrials or evolved humans traveling back in time and a fan of sci-fi, but come on two suns in our solar system is a pagan prophecy contrary to you’re beliefs of not believing in any religions, its like you claiming that the sun will one day rise from the west which is of course a muslim belief.

[Caesar]

The thread is for people who believe in Conspiracies, so once again why poke your nose where it doesn't belong??   .. And using the word Chesarae makes you look immature kidergarten kid. Even two year old kids don't do this anymore.

[Khalqat]

Thanks for your inputs gnak and Caeser

Somehow I find gnak and myself on the same picture; might be supriise for some; one is kind of athiest, other a Muslim

But what gnak has said above, more or less, happened to be the case

I agree that the technology that Americans or more precisely zionists have access to, is decades ahead of our perceptions; do you really believe they would have never experimented on research left by Tesla? I don't think so to start with

Yes, they would 'claim' that they are aliens and would have 'means' to prove it also; but as gnak said, the reality would be quite the otherwise

I believe these 'aliens' have been with us all along right from day one; the only reason they are getting stronger & more visible now is because someone is opening 'gates' and giving them more access to this world

Now you need to figure it out who are the people from our side aiding them

The answers to your questions lie in anger management. If you think about it, you would realize what I mean.

And nothing in this world would ever happen without the Will of Allah.

[safdar]

The Latin pronunciation of you’re psoydoneum is: CHE-SA-RAE.

didn’t you know that?

And its you who’s talking about Star Wars film in the wrong thread.


Who’s the immature kindergarten kid now!

[Caesar]

BORING ... Funny people are now using latin to look cool, latin being the language of lying thugs in Vatican.

[gnak]

Some experts have speculated Betelgeuse’s explosion may cause a neutron star or result in the formation of a black hole approximately 1300 light years from Earth, but Dr Carter says it could go either way.

“There’s a reasonably even chance of a neutron star or a black hole”, he says.



“If it were me, I’d suspect it would more likely become a black hole at 20 solar masses.”

if betelguese goes nova there goes 1/3 of orion and the end of the black league... its not only orion many places this gonna happen

closer to home sirius b might go nova real soon but no one talks bout it... even closer to home our sun set to release a series of corona mass ejections within the next 3-4 yrs

set to kill all/most surface life on this planet not to mention an artificial pole shift (which i believe the pleiadians might have something to do with) before the corona mass ejections

bout the second sun... if jupiter ignites we'll have a second sun thats a possibility in itself

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Believe it or not Earth will be getting a Second Sun!!!

btw i just read part of the article they dun mean second sun literally   its just that betelguese nova will be as bright as our sun... how long it last i dun know

[Pak-Eye]

The answers to your questions lie in anger management. If you think about it, you would realize what I mean.

And nothing in this world would ever happen without the Will of Allah.

Anger Management is of no use if you are still talking with guns in your hands; I am sure you also got the drift :)

Indeed nothing will happen without the will of Allah, God, the Creator ...

Actually in this thread we try to understand the other side, bringing in even extreme theories, not necessarily to change our faiths but to better understand the universe we live in