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[ZPak]

And to think, assholes like him are part of the legislative body in the US.

[ranmaniac]

The US is not too far from economic collapse, most Americans are one paycheck away from bankruptcy and losing their home, as they are up to their ears in debt, and have little or no savings. Their infrastructure is crumbling, as they have spent over a trillion dollars for their wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but don't spend the money necessary to fix their bridges. The military industrial complex, oil lobby, and the neo-cons have such a strangle hold on the politics in the US, that the average American has really little or no say in what goes on their govt.

[Caesar]

He is a homo moron of the highest order!! He is a drunk fu-ck who doesn't know anything!! What else can u expect from a born bastard who doesn't know with how many his mom slept with!!!

[Tamerlane]

If we count all the countries that are the victims of American aggression then it would be a long one, and if we add the potential victims, then it would include every single Muslim country and half of the rest of the world.

Maybe it's time for the world to unite and bring down this rogue to its knees before it kills and destroys any more. This country is an unbearable burden on mankind and needs to have its teeth removed for the sake of the world and its leaders need to be captured and tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

When these monkeys add God's religion and God's places of worship to their list of targets then we can be sure that their doom is near. It is very near.

[CDarussalam]

The US is not too far from economic collapse, most Americans are one paycheck away from bankruptcy and losing their home, as they are up to their ears in debt, and have little or no savings. Their infrastructure is crumbling, as they have spent over a trillion dollars for their wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but don't spend the money necessary to fix their bridges. The military industrial complex, oil lobby, and the neo-cons have such a strangle hold on the politics in the US, that the average American has really little or no say in what goes on their govt.

I can testify to that bro,. my dad has friends working in commercial and residential real estate, business has plummeted down even worse since the last 2 years.  And by God the businesses are closing down, and recently one of the biggest financial firms "Unilever" will cut 20,000 jobs, and the list goes on and on.  

We own our home here in US as well but I thank God it's in our desi blood to save, Lol.  I haven't found a job since the last 2 years in my town and my dads business is dwindling as well (who also works in stocks and real estate & we have a huge loss).

What I have found funny is how the US, always talked about USSR falling apart on it's own, and wouldn't acknowledge their own downfall coming out someone else's mouth.  It makes no difference if this is a $ 13 Trillion dollar economy or not, what goes up must come down.

And lo, I have seen alot of Indians in many places brag about how US falls, China will go down, but they fail to realize that China is diversifying it's economy espically among the Asian nations, with food, tech, etc, and soon it willn't heavily depend on US, and also soon EU will be lifting it's embargo's since cause of US economic trouble they are also taking a hit, and also Indians forget to mention that even though China has a trillion dolllars in reserve it's not invested and they can switch they reserves anytime they want.

[Dizasta]

WASHINGTON: The US presidential candidate Tom Tancredo said that in his opinion the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Madina should be attacked if America is attacked.

The presidential candidate belonging to the Republican Party said in a restaurant that the US should consider attack on the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Madina to save America from nuclear attacks.

He said that in case of nuclear attacks they would decide how to target Mecca and Madina. He said this is the only way to save the US from attacks and through which it can be secured.

It may be mentioned that this is not for the first time that any statement regarding attacks on the sacred cities of the Muslims has been issued from Tom Tancredo. Earlier in 2005 also, he said about attacks on Mecca and Madina.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=26946

What this pipsqueak doesn't know is that 10,000 angels guard the gates of the holy cities. They bring the F-22s & B-52s but when the guardian angels of the holy cities wrought havoc upon them, they would live to tell what had happened to them. So in other words, Mr. Obama, bring it on and you shall see what happens when you pick a fight with God!

[Tamerlane]

What this pipsqueak doesn't know is that 10,000 angels guard the gates of the holy cities. America's might would crumble before the might of Allah!

The Americans do a lot of things just to disprove to the Muslims that Allah even exists. When they bomb mosques, or torture prisoners, or shove Qurans down toilets, the question they keep asking Muslims is: "where is your Allah now?" To them bombing Mecca or Medina would be the ultimate way of making Muslims stop believing: "look, we just destroyed Mecca, where was your Allah?"

[aziqbal]

In whole of history these flith filled beggers with thier begger bowls have tried to commit crimes against muslims. In crusaders time they was repeatidly defeated like wild dogs and still they dont learn thier lessons. French general Gouraud kicked Saadins grave, the Israeli burned down his one-thousand-year-old wood and ivory pulpit in Al Aqsa in 1969 they are so much against muslims they will stop at nothing, this why it is important that we learn and see the signs coming to us so we can prepare and defeat them if they try and do it again.

[Dizasta]

The Americans do a lot of things just to disprove to the Muslims that Allah even exists. When they bomb mosques, or torture prisoners, or shove Qurans down toilets, the question they keep asking Muslims is: "where is your Allah now?" To them bombing Mecca or Medina would be the ultimate way of making Muslims stop believing: "look, we just destroyed Mecca, where was your Allah?"

My dear friend, the Noble Quran is protected by Allah in its authenticity, that no one shall compromise its credibility, till Qayamah (end of time). Flushing it down the toilet (Naozobillah) will not diminish its credibility as the word of Allah. Bombing Masajid, bombing where people come to pray to Allah and when people start using the Masjid as a fortress, it negates the purpose for which it was built. This does not degrade Islam, rather it does provoke Muslims. But trying to bomb the house of Allah ...... try it ..... you shall verily see the impossible happen. And do you know what that impossible is? That impossible is what hasn't happen since 87 years .... Muslims unite as one, ignite as one and fight as one. The impossible as almost a quarter of the world population stands under one flag, the flag of Islam. Over 1.6 billion Muslims all over the world resoundingly unite against those who try to attack Makkah and Madinah!

Again ..... for the sake of reality ..... i challenge Obama ..... heck, i challenge America ...... better yet i provoke America to attack our holy cities and you shall see the end of todays superpower blow away like dust!

[sobank]

"Democracy" Slow and painful process aint it?

Even idiots can be elected or run for president!!

Correction. idiot was elected. sorry my mistake. idiot was re-elected.

[SaudiArabian]

the US government has denounced Tancredo's statement and called him "absolutely crazy"

[demonslayer]

This republican nut's statement should be condemend by all the Muslim countries. Morons like him do not realize that the Islamic fundamentalists can do the same thing to the Vatican.

[meengla]

Why the Vatican!? Vatican is a world apart from the evangelical Zio Christians and the Bible thumping Baptists--who, incidentally, are a large group of a-spiritual money hungry, war mongering rednecks mostly from American Mid-west and Southern States. Vatican actively condemns the Iraq war and Israeli atrocities and seeks 'dialog' with other faiths while sticking to their own 'true faith'.

[demonslayer]

Why the Vatican!? Vatican is a world apart from the evangelical Zio Christians and the Bible thumping Baptists--who, incidentally, are a large group of a-spiritual money hungry, war mongering rednecks mostly from American Mid-west and Southern States. Vatican actively condemns the Iraq war and Israeli atrocities and seeks 'dialog' with other faiths while sticking to their own 'true faith'.

I was just giving an example. Also, to a terrorists it wont make a difference what the views are of someone. They attack to spread terror and hatred.This will achieve their goals.

[SaudiArabian]

This republican nut's statement should be condemend by all the Muslim countries. Morons like him do not realize that the Islamic fundamentalists can do the same thing to the Vatican.

doing that will make him famous. he is seeking fame through a stupid way.

[SOHAIL]

WASHINGTON: The US presidential candidate Tom Tancredo said that in his opinion the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Madina should be attacked if America is attacked.

The presidential candidate belonging to the Republican Party said in a restaurant that the US should consider attack on the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Madina to save America from nuclear attacks.

He said that in case of nuclear attacks they would decide how to target Mecca and Madina. He said this is the only way to save the US from attacks and through which it can be secured.

It may be mentioned that this is not for the first time that any statement regarding attacks on the sacred cities of the Muslims has been issued from Tom Tancredo. Earlier in 2005 also, he said about attacks on Mecca and Madina.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=26946

ASalam-o-alaikum


All muslims countries should have given the answer … “If that ever happened we will attack all American bases within and  in reach of the Islamic counties”.

[akthus]

I don't understand why we Pakistanis should be custodian of a land we are not in charge of.

Saudi Arabia should be voicing its anger at the Americans and not us.

It seems that for all the world troubles we are the first to speak out.

Pakistanis take up the cause of others without thinking that would the other side do the same for us.

The reputation of Pakistanis in the United Kingdom where I am based is so bad now because of the recent suicide bombings.

These bombers are disillusioned men who take their own life in vain and left anguish for their family.

Think Pakistan First and let those idiot Saudis do thier own work.

[Saqr]

I don't understand why we Pakistanis should be custodian of a land we are not in charge of.

Saudi Arabia should be voicing its anger at the Americans and not us.

It seems that for all the world troubles we are the first to speak out.

Pakistanis take up the cause of others without thinking that would the other side do the same for us.

The reputation of Pakistanis in the United Kingdom where I am based is so bad now because of the recent suicide bombings.

These bombers are disillusioned men who take their own life in vain and left anguish for their family.

Think Pakistan First and let those idiot Saudis do thier own work.

We're Muslim before we're Pakistani...and Mecca and Madinah form a part of one of our pillars - as Muslims we have to defend it.  If other Muslims - especially the host country Saudi Arabia - don't take up the cause, then let it be.

[kahn]

Salaam
Pakistan has condemned his his statement...

and so have I

This is the best reply  ...and your condemnation has made a lot difference.....

[Tamerlane]

If we're willing to sit and watch as the Americans, British and Israelis destroy Islam and the whole Muslim world, then we might as well dismantle Pakistan and join India. What's the point of Pakistan, then, if Islam is destroyed?

We don't necessarily need to fight on our own. Rather we need to try to get together with other Muslim countries, especially Iran and Saudi Arabia, to counter the plans of the enemies of Islam.

It's not like, if we sit and dance like monkeys for America, that the Americans will leave us alone. What have we got from them? Threats to bomb us to the Stone Age, threats to bomb our territory, threats for regime change. All we get are threats, and they laugh at how threatening Pakistan works out to their advantage and they get everything they want.

Pakistan needs to at least try to de-couple its economy from America and Britain so that while they can continue to threaten to bomb us, at least we know that out economy will be safe from their blackmail.

[Tamerlane]

Pakistan will react with full force against any agression against Saudi Arabia: Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz

ISLAMABAD. Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has said that Pakistan will react with full force against any aggression on Pakistani or Saudi Arabian territory. Giving an exclusive interview to an Arab TV channel the Prime Minister said that the threats by some candidates in the American presidential elections against Pakistan and Mecca and Medina are intolerable and Pakistan not only dismisses these threats, but also condemns them. He said that in the event of any attack against Mecca, Medina or Saudi Arabia Pakistan as a sovereign nation will not sit as a quiet spectator but will go all out to defend Saudi Arabia. Shaukat Aziz said that Pakistan is proud of its strength, it's security forces and its army; therefore the presence of any foreign forces is not open to debate and Pakistan can defend itself. The Prime Minister said that the Pakistan/Saudi relation is very strong and Pakistan considers it an obligation to defend Saudi Arabia.

http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/aug2007-daily/...8-2007/up54.gif

[Ghias]

^^ahhh...thand paiy gai yaar.

[Kim Jong-il Hater]

When you really think about it, the US didn't become the dicks of the world until after WWII. Before that they were very anti-imperialist (although they did have a few islands of their own), condemning Europe's imperialistic policies and maltreatment of their African colonies and their spheres of influence over the Middle East. \

So in the end it's all Hitler's fault.

[Bazigaar]

pakistan will react etc etc...
muslims will react etc etc...

ye sab baten jo politicans kehtay hain bas kehnay ke hee batehn hain...unfortunately...

jab Holy Prophet (PBUH) ke cartoon ka problem hoa tha to muslims ne kon se teer maar liye thaay?  muslims have to make themselves strong first before they can do anything...aur ye sab unity se ho ga...and unfortunatly muslim dictionary mae aj kal ye word (unity) nahi hae...

Khana Kaaba Khuda ka ghar hae...the best we individual muslims can do is pray ke aay Khuda tu he apne ghar ke hifazat farma ya phir humain ye taufeeq ata farma ke hum us ke hifazat ker sakain...Ameen!

[aziqbal]

I don't understand why we Pakistanis should be custodian of a land we are not in charge of.

Mecca and Madina is the holy place for muslims do you know its meaning and relavence in Islam? cleary not, who are Pakistani without Islam if there wasnt a Islam there wouldnt have been a Pakistan in the first place mate, like Mark said we are muslims first and nationality is afterwards.

If Pakistan is attacked we should reply with full force if the holy cities of Mecca and Madina are attacked we should invite Armageddon and destroy every living and moving thing, nothing should be left all should be destroyed.

We are repeatidly threatened and bullied instead of living like a coward for 100 years better to live like a brave person and fight off the evils for one day.

Instead of being embarrssed all the time its better to embarressed once and for all. I say bring it on.

[Bazigaar]

I don't understand why we Pakistanis should be custodian of a land we are not in charge of.

Saudi Arabia should be voicing its anger at the Americans and not us.

It seems that for all the world troubles we are the first to speak out.

Pakistanis take up the cause of others without thinking that would the other side do the same for us.

The reputation of Pakistanis in the United Kingdom where I am based is so bad now because of the recent suicide bombings.

These bombers are disillusioned men who take their own life in vain and left anguish for their family.

Think Pakistan First and let those idiot Saudis do thier own work.

r u saying that any attack on mecca or madian won'e effect u as a muslim?? i am surprised...we r muslims first then pakistanis...

[Lightning F57]

A more fuller article of Shaukat Aziz comments with the arab news paper can be found here:

http://www.app.com.pk/en/index.php?option=...02&Itemid=2

[asal-main]

attack on Makkah/Madinah is too serious.  To do it, they themselves would have to want death wish. Pakistan is not the only muslim country. Not only Pakistan, but all muslims will respond. Pakistanis need not feel the pressure alone.

Western civilization will end if they do #### like that, and they know it. US govt spokesman has already condemned the yahoo who made the comments.

[Volcano-X]

Pakistan will react with full force against any agression against Saudi Arabia: Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz

ISLAMABAD. Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has said that Pakistan will react with full force against any aggression on Pakistani or Saudi Arabian territory. Giving an exclusive interview to an Arab TV channel the Prime Minister said that the threats by some candidates in the American presidential elections against Pakistan and Mecca and Medina are intolerable and Pakistan not only dismisses these threats, but also condemns them. He said that in the event of any attack against Mecca, Medina or Saudi Arabia Pakistan as a sovereign nation will not sit as a quiet spectator but will go all out to defend Saudi Arabia. Shaukat Aziz said that Pakistan is proud of its strength, it's security forces and its army; therefore the presence of any foreign forces is not open to debate and Pakistan can defend itself. The Prime Minister said that the Pakistan/Saudi relation is very strong and Pakistan considers it an obligation to defend Saudi Arabia.

http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/aug2007-daily/...8-2007/up54.gif

salam

well thts one hell of a statement and made my dayy... as for ppl who say tht wht happened when Prophet salalahualihiwalsam's Cartoons(nauzubillah) were made and nothin happened ..u shud hav seen in lahore and in malaysia and other parts of world ... the chirstian said upon seing this reaction ..tht muslims only burnt shops and markets nw BUT if a flame came once more of like this one then Muslims will burn everything which comes in there sight and u forgot Amir cheema shaheed ...

Anywayz thts ooff topic... the thing is tht Makkah And madina who ever remains in charge MUST b a muslim and saudi Arabians are muslims as far as i no :) so it doesnt matter infact lot of muslims see Saudi Arabia as there second home because of Makkah and Madina :)

Allah Hafiz

[asal-main]

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/070803/ap/d8qpm3fo0.html

The State Department has a message for White House candidates wanting to expound on sensitive diplomatic issues: Shut up.

The State Department had hoped to steer clear of controversy, complaints and public protests sparked by Obama and Clinton, but Tancredo's comments bumped up against the limit of diplomatic patience.

Casey had unusually harsh words for Tancredo, R-Colo., who said this week that if elected he would threaten to bomb the Saudi cities of Mecca and Medina, Islam's two holiest sites, to deter attacks on the United States. "It is absolutely outrageous and reprehensible for anyone to suggest attacks on holy sites, whether they are Muslim, Christian, Jewish or those of any other religion," a clearly agitated Casey told reporters, shaking his head in disgust.

"To somehow suggest that an appropriate response to terrorism would be to attack sites that are holy and sacred to more than a billion people throughout the world is just absolutely crazy," he said, denouncing "any suggestion that the defense of the American homeland or the defense of American interests would ever justify attacking holy sites."

[asal-main]

I would like the above statements, also made from al-Q. I dont trust these kaafirs either. They support people who explode themselves in unsuspecting crowds, even of muslims and justify it for all kinds of bizarre reasons. Hey america made them so mad, they killed every muslim, and destroyed makkah. Its possible according to their logic. Its as crazy as and no different than shooting 30 unsuspecting and unarmed people in the back then shooting ownself in the head. The phenomenon has no limits and without bounds. Whats even crazier are the people rushing to support these murderers. Its a crazy brainwashed ideology capable of gross crimes. They have no religion.

[Bazigaar]

salam

well thts one hell of a statement and made my dayy... as for ppl who say tht wht happened when Prophet salalahualihiwalsam's Cartoons(nauzubillah) were made and nothin happened ..u shud hav seen in lahore and in malaysia and other parts of world ... the chirstian said upon seing this reaction ..tht muslims only burnt shops and markets nw BUT if a flame came once more of like this one then Muslims will burn everything which comes in there sight and u forgot Amir cheema shaheed ...


Allah Hafiz

thing is...did burning of stuff and what so ever did anything? did the editor got punished? no...then it was all useless... don;t think emotionally, but think about it..r our governments capable of doing anything? not really...most of them r corrupt coward officials

[Tropicana]

thing is...did burning of stuff and what so ever did anything? did the editor got punished? no...then it was all useless... don;t think emotionally, but think about it..r our governments capable of doing anything? not really...most of them r corrupt coward officials

Cartoons insulting Muslims get published, and Muslims take turns in burning their own property, thinking "I am doing my duty towards Islam by burning this car/Building". How idiotic and stupid!

As you said, the editor did not get punished, and nothign much happened. I fully support the demonstrations and economic boycott to some extent, however burning tyres and cars was done by emotional protestors who think out of their ***** rather than their heads