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[Tamerlane]

WASHINGTON: The US presidential candidate Tom Tancredo said that in his opinion the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Madina should be attacked if America is attacked.

The presidential candidate belonging to the Republican Party said in a restaurant that the US should consider attack on the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Madina to save America from nuclear attacks.

He said that in case of nuclear attacks they would decide how to target Mecca and Madina. He said this is the only way to save the US from attacks and through which it can be secured.

It may be mentioned that this is not for the first time that any statement regarding attacks on the sacred cities of the Muslims has been issued from Tom Tancredo. Earlier in 2005 also, he said about attacks on Mecca and Madina.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=26946

[Tamerlane]

In the American elections it's like its open season on all things Islamic. It appears that the more you talk about destroying Islam the more votes you get. This is what Muslims get for sitting like mice and accepting false accusations that are leveled against them; like the Americans blowing up their own cities on 911 and accusing Muslims. Will we ever ask for proof?

Is there any outrage the Americans can commit that will bring back any self respect to the Muslims; or are they dead beyond repair?

[platinum786]

Hahaha... Now watch as no muslims object, all these so called muslim senators etc and lobbies and arab investors will just st on thier arse.

thise is grounds to force this guy out of office, yet nobody will utisise it.

[DarkAngel]

salaam.
why bthe surprise, we know the scum there is out there, but im getting the growing impression that this anti islamic desperation is more pervasive in the government than the common person. he should be targetted by the media and an apology demanded. but then again the muslims dont seem to care that much anyway.

[Saqr]

Not the first time Mecca and Madina were threatened with assault...Muslims should just say "bring it on"...

[Saira]

An asinine brute. How do they even allow such a philistine imbecile to run for president is beyond me.

[chief1]

Now it is confirm that this is war on the basis of religion..not on the basis of terrorism..

Mush should stop the help of these @ss holes americans terrorists.
The problem of Muslims peoples is that they display himself as a warrior in the media..


.and the non muslims like
USA ,europe show himself as a peace full on the media with a symbole of pigon.. this is propaganda..


MY heart is full against the LIARS.
this is Salbee war

[aziqbal]

Well guys the last time violence came to Mecca its was Pakistan who first arrived to the scence so if anyone even dreams of it happening again yes Pakistan shall be the first one there again but this time we wont stop till we get straight to Washington and pull those croneys out and beat them like wild dogs.

But I think Pakistan has one big major problem I dont think we dont have enough Nukes we should qucikly increase our production.

[desi munda]

Everybody in US knows Tancredo is a crazy dude! (One platform idiot "Immigration").  I think he is tired is of scarring poor Mexicans and knows by showing his anti Islam colors he can gain some votes, As of today he has 1% of favorable rating among conservatives so I guess he needs to talk crazy stuff and beat Michael Wiener opps Savage.

[visioninthedark]

and this p...i...g... thinks we will just be sitting and watching the show .... ?????

[meengla]

An asinine brute. How do they even allow such a philistine imbecile to run for president is beyond me.

Made my day!

By the way, the Republican Presidential Debates on TV is full of wild stereotyping and jingoistic patriotism--almost bordering on Tancredo's zeal.

Many, many politicians in America crave wars. Look at how many wars America has been in over last 6 decades alone?

I strongly encourage people to watch 'Why We Fight'--a documentary along 'Fahrenheit 911' but much better. If you can't rent it then at least watch the trailers on its website: http://www.whywefight.com . Then you may better understand the mindset of many American politicians. Although, in my opinion the writer Eugene is too charitable to Eisenheur, Ike does seem like an angel compared to who followed him.


War is a big business to them. LOTS of money. And so, even if this politician's threat to attack Mecca, Medina is a tiny minority's view, the utter contempt with which the American politicians look at the rest of the world is not a minority view.

Viva a multipolar world!

[SaudiArabian]

The presidential candidate belonging to the Republican Party said in a restaurant that the

it seems that this sick jaskass was too drunk when he gave that outrageous statement

[Jazba-e-Kashmir]

Salaam


Pakistan has condemned his his statement...

and so have I

[crazyinsane105]

This is a pretty big sign of desperation if you ask me. Not only is America's entire Army stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan, but they have no way to get out either. So what better way than to shift the blame on the entire Muslim population? Maybe an attack on Mecca and Medina is what is needed to wake up the Muslim world anyway....

[safdar]

Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the companions of the Elephant! Did He not make their treacherous plan go astray? And He sent against them Flights of Birds, striking them with stones of baked clay. Then did He make them like an empty field of stalks and straw, (of which the corn) has been eaten up.

-Al Quran (105 : 1-5)

(Translation Allama Yusuf Ali)

the story behind the holy-Quran verse...

A report reached Abrahah (companions of the Elephant) that the devotees of the Ka'bah had defiled his cathedral (untrue by the way), Abrahah swore that he would not rest until he had destroyed the Ka'bah.

So, in 570 or 571 A. D., he took 60,000 troops and 13 elephants (according to another tradition, 9 elephants) and set off for Makkah.


The above verse from the holy-Quran is for Muslims, that Allah knows how to protect his house.

[Sardar]

As crazy as these comments are by this lunatic, what worries me more is closer to home...

The statements by Barack Obama TODAY...

Barack Obama 'would strike' Pakistan

    US presidential candidate Barack Obama has said he would order military action against al-Qaeda in Pakistan without the consent of Pakistan's government.

    Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions.

    Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point scoring.

"If President Musharraf won't act, we will"

http://ajsnyd.newsvine.com/_news/2007/08/0...ike-in-pakistan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm

[PS:Annonymous]

An asinine brute. How do they even allow such a philistine imbecile to run for president is beyond me.

"Democracy" Slow and painful process aint it?

Even idiots can be elected or run for president!!

[BaburMissile]

I hope that Pakistan has some sort of nuke program going on in SA. The last time I heard some Pakistani scientists were spotted. Surely some sort of precautionary measures must’ve been taken.

[rameezraja]

Another attack on US mainland will bring religious War. That is for sure.  We can only hope Al-Queda doesn't strike US again.

[CDarussalam]

Doesn't matter who attacks who, Muslims till this day can't get back Jerusalem Islams 3rd holiest site.  I don't see how we can protect Mecca and Medina (Besides, God's intervention if he decides to help), last time I read a Hadith saying "that Medina will be in ruins when Jerusalem will flourish".

Were in no position to threaten US:

1. You try to use 1 nuke, they will use 100.
2. Send 1 ship (If it can get anywhere) get ready for 10.

The list goes on and on, the Islamic world is good for nothing but asking for "apologies".  And I'm frankly getting sick and tired of this.  Now you see Arabs joining around a wild fire making a camp to attack (in future) Iran another Islamic country, and next thing you know they get hit it will end up as another :

CONSPIRACY THEORY

And frankly, even that is getting tiring to listen to every time, Jews this and day.  If they fixed their own house they wouldn't be opening their mouth and uttering those pathetic words.  

Also, their is no conspiracy against Muslims every thing is their for people to see, those who seek to see it with open hearts and minds.

1. Jews control media so what, we all know and have been hearing their big mouths for years, is that a "Conspiracy", NO.  Cause it's out in the open.
2. US controls alot of Islamic countries "YES", no conspiracy their Green is big these days.

Didn't Allah say in the Quran don't seek protectors besides him, if you look at the Islamic world who are they depending upon, for these people have forgotten the very first message in the Quran, and took US as protectors you guys can deny it all you want but it's their for us to see.

This is nothing but Gods wrath on us, he doesn't have to do anything to us but send someone else to screw us up.

[Tamerlane]

Those nice people who brought us 911 are already filming the sequel. Here's one of those nice people telling us in detail what the next one will be like:

U.S. Terror Attack — 'Ninety Days at Most'
Wednesday, July 13, 2005

Counterterrorism expert Juval Aviv spoke with FOX Fan Central about what Americans can do to protect themselves in case of a terror attack.

Do you believe another terrorist attack is likely on American soil?

I predict, based primarily on information that is floating in Europe and the Middle East, that an event is imminent and around the corner here in the United States. It could happen as soon as tomorrow, or it could happen in the next few months. Ninety days at the most.

What advice do you have for individuals that have the misfortune of finding themselves in the middle of a terror attack?

Since mass transportation is the next attack, when you travel to work have with you, a bottle of water, a small towel and a flashlight. What happened in London is exactly a point to look at. Those people who were close to the bombs died, then others were injured or died from inhaling the toxic fumes or getting trampled. The reason you take a bottle of water and a towel is that if you wet the towel and put it over your face, you can protect yourself against the fumes and get yourself out of there.
Don't be bashful. If your gut feeling tells you when you walk onto a bus there is something unusual or suspicious, get out and walk away. You may do it 10 times for no reason, but there will be one time that saves your life. Let your sixth sense direct you.

Try to break your routine. If you travel during rush hour every day, try to get up a little earlier and drive to work or take the train when it’s still not full. Don’t find yourself every day in the midst of rush hour. Terrorists are not going to waste a bomb on a half-empty train.

What portion of the American infrastructure do you believe is at the greatest risk for a terror attack?

We have put all of our emphasis, right or wrong, on the aviation area. What has happened, in the last two to three years, based on information we have, is the terrorists have realized that they cannot hijack a plane in America soon because the passengers are going to fight back. So they realize what they have been very successful with over the last 50 years in Madrid, London, Iraq, Israel: demoralizing the public when they go to work and when they come back from work.

What they’re going to do is hit six, seven or eight cities simultaneously to show sophistication and really hit the public. This time, which is the message of the day, it will not only be big cities. They’re going to try to hit rural America. They want to send a message to rural America: "You’re not protected. If you figured out that if you just move out of New York and move to Montana or to Pittsburgh, you’re not immune. We’re going [to] get you wherever we can and it’s easier there than in New York."

What more do you think the government can do to protect the public?

Number one, and this is the beef I’ve had with Homeland Security for the last four years, is educating the public on how to deal with those types of events. There’s no education. We’re raising the color code alert and that means nothing to anyone. Whether it’s green, yellow, pink, no one ever educated the public how to identify suspicious items or people. In Israel, so many of them [terrorists] have been apprehended just because people have phoned in. We don’t have that training on campuses, schools or kindergarten.

In Israel, it’s very popular right now [amongst terrorists] to put one device to explode and time another one for five minutes later when it’s all calm, people are getting up and the rescue teams have responded. You need to know all those things and think about those things. The government must pursue that. Law enforcement will never have enough people on the street to detect things. We don’t have that kind of manpower. That’s why the government must enlist the public.

Juval Aviv is a former Israeli Counterterrorism Intelligence Officer and President and CEO of Interfor, Inc. Mr. Aviv has also served as a special consultant to the U.S. Congress on issues of terrorism and security and is the author of “Staying Safe : The Complete Guide to Protecting Yourself, Your Family, and Your Business.”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C161962%2C00.html

[aziqbal]

Doesn't matter who attacks who, Muslims till this day can't get back Jerusalem Islams 3rd holiest site.  I don't see how we can protect Mecca and Medina (Besides, God's intervention if he decides to help), last time I read a Hadith saying "that Medina will be in ruins when Jerusalem will flourish".

Were in no position to threaten US:

1. You try to use 1 nuke, they will use 100.
2. Send 1 ship (If it can get anywhere) get ready for 10.

The list goes on and on, the Islamic world is good for nothing but asking for "apologies".  And I'm frankly getting sick and tired of this.  Now you see Arabs joining around a wild fire making a camp to attack (in future) Iran another Islamic country, and next thing you know they get hit it will end up as another :

CONSPIRACY THEORY

And frankly, even that is getting tiring to listen to every time, Jews this and day.  If they fixed their own house they wouldn't be opening their mouth and uttering those pathetic words.  

Also, their is no conspiracy against Muslims every thing is their for people to see, those who seek to see it with open hearts and minds.

1. Jews control media so what, we all know and have been hearing their big mouths for years, is that a "Conspiracy", NO.  Cause it's out in the open.
2. US controls alot of Islamic countries "YES", no conspiracy their Green is big these days.

Didn't Allah say in the Quran don't seek protectors besides him, if you look at the Islamic world who are they depending upon, for these people have forgotten the very first message in the Quran, and took US as protectors you guys can deny it all you want but it's their for us to see.

This is nothing but Gods wrath on us, he doesn't have to do anything to us but send someone else to screw us up.

They have weapons which was made by humans so it can be destroyed by humans you make it look like they are some sort of outer-space creatures which are invincible!! If anyone talks about war on Islam then reguardless of situation one must stand and fight no matter what is the result but be sure the final victory will be for the muslims. Things may look very bad and out numbered but it dont mean anything we should still do the best we can to defend. We are the ones who teach Europeans how to be like humans and not animals now they are going to challange us!

[SaudiArabian]

Counterterrorism expert Juval Aviv spoke with FOX Fan Central about what Americans can do to protect themselves in case of a terror attack.

thats just great , a sick zion-terrorist speaking on a zionist brainwashing fan central on the comming terror attack on the Americans

Americans should wake up from getting brainwashed like this and start protests against giving tens of billions of US$ to the zionists since 3 decades to give that money for the victims of Katrina

[aziqbal]

thats just great , a sick zion-terrorist speaking on a zionist brainwashing fan central on the comming terror attack on the Americans

Americans should wake up from getting brainwashed like this and start protests against giving tens of billions of US$ to the zionists since 3 decades to give that money for the victims of Katrina

Can you belive 100 F16 "Sufas" was given to Israel and now they are going to take delivery of 100 JSF!!!!!

[Saira]

"Democracy" Slow and painful process aint it?

Even idiots can be elected or run for president!!

Can be. But Wont.

Just because there is a possibility of lightning striking you 1/700,000, doest mean you will stop going outside.

[CDarussalam]

They have weapons which was made by humans so it can be destroyed by humans you make it look like they are some sort of outer-space creatures which are invincible!! If anyone talks about war on Islam then reguardless of situation one must stand and fight no matter what is the result but be sure the final victory will be for the muslims. Things may look very bad and out numbered but it dont mean anything we should still do the best we can to defend.

Tell me 1 nation that stood up to US and didn't have it's nation sunk into the sand, or hard soil?
Were outnumbered if every way, shape and forum.  Fighting "Yes", I wouldn't mind I'm sick of living in this world with other Muslims (Leaders) who can't do ####, besdies cry and weep like dogs when an Iraqi, etc, dies knowing they have a hand in it as well basically I'm wasting my time living, if I was to fight I would fight for "Allah" cause and my honor instead defending what those responsible for out protection couldn't (in Pakistan).

We are the ones who teach Europeans how to be like humans and not animals now they are going to challange us!

Please, go back and read history "Europe" advanced alot is social, education, invention fields.  Their society cracked "Roman Empire", and they took a few books, "BIG DEAL".  Now they are teaching us how to live, fight modern warfare, medicine.  We haven't done jack-#### since then we haven't even come out with anything worst mentioning besides the number 0 and some Algebra.

If you look they went into a decline like were in right now, even though were even 100X worse than what they were.

So trust me we really didn't have to teach them how to live, I read all the "Dark Age" stories, and I see alot of flaw in them espically when Muslims say we thought them how to live, me being a Muslim knows they were still better off.

thats just great , a sick zion-terrorist speaking on a zionist brainwashing fan central on the comming terror attack on the Americans

Americans should wake up from getting brainwashed like this and start protests against giving tens of billions of US$ to the zionists since 3 decades to give that money for the victims of Katrina

Not again with this Zionist garbage, Arabs do the same thing showing TV serials about Jews eating Christian children, and all that other mumbo-jumbo, I have seen them with my own eyes.  And preaching "the protocols of zion".  Arab leaders themselves are brainwashed and doing the same with others.

Can you belive 100 F16 "Sufas" was given to Israel and now they are going to take delivery of 100 JSF!!!!!

Sad, but unfortunately they have the right to get what they want.  This shows who's truly a friend and who's not, it's not going stop US from delivering, just like it didn't stop them delivering bomb pallets to drop on Lebanon.

This tells you another quote; "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".  (Man we could have learned alot from the Mayans).

Edited by CDarussalam, 02 August 2007 - 04:29 PM.

[visioninthedark]

Doesn't matter who attacks who, Muslims till this day can't get back Jerusalem Islams 3rd holiest site.  I don't see how we can protect Mecca and Medina (Besides, God's intervention if he decides to help), last time I read a Hadith saying "that Medina will be in ruins when Jerusalem will flourish".

Were in no position to threaten US:

1. You try to use 1 nuke, they will use 100.
2. Send 1 ship (If it can get anywhere) get ready for 10.

The list goes on and on, the Islamic world is good for nothing but asking for "apologies".  And I'm frankly getting sick and tired of this.  Now you see Arabs joining around a wild fire making a camp to attack (in future) Iran another Islamic country, and next thing you know they get hit it will end up as another :

CONSPIRACY THEORY

And frankly, even that is getting tiring to listen to every time, Jews this and day.  If they fixed their own house they wouldn't be opening their mouth and uttering those pathetic words.  

Also, their is no conspiracy against Muslims every thing is their for people to see, those who seek to see it with open hearts and minds.

1. Jews control media so what, we all know and have been hearing their big mouths for years, is that a "Conspiracy", NO.  Cause it's out in the open.
2. US controls alot of Islamic countries "YES", no conspiracy their Green is big these days.

Didn't Allah say in the Quran don't seek protectors besides him, if you look at the Islamic world who are they depending upon, for these people have forgotten the very first message in the Quran, and took US as protectors you guys can deny it all you want but it's their for us to see.

This is nothing but Gods wrath on us, he doesn't have to do anything to us but send someone else to screw us up.

I share your perspective .... that is why I support Musharraf for a strong Pakistan

[BaburMissile]

Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the companions of the Elephant! Did He not make their treacherous plan go astray? And He sent against them Flights of Birds, striking them with stones of baked clay. Then did He make them like an empty field of stalks and straw, (of which the corn) has been eaten up.

-Al Quran (105 : 1-5)

(Translation Allama Yusuf Ali)

the story behind the holy-Quran verse...

A report reached Abrahah (companions of the Elephant) that the devotees of the Ka'bah had defiled his cathedral (untrue by the way), Abrahah swore that he would not rest until he had destroyed the Ka'bah.

So, in 570 or 571 A. D., he took 60,000 troops and 13 elephants (according to another tradition, 9 elephants) and set off for Makkah.
The above verse from the holy-Quran is for Muslims, that Allah knows how to protect his house.

I agree. Allah will protect his symbol. We pathetic beings aren't capable.

[asal-main]

anyone can run for president. He obviously has a vote bank to say what he says and get away with it as he has elected seat. But he is not a major candidate. Pakistan has similar loudmouths, lots of them.

[clutch]

Hahaha... Now watch as no muslims object, all these so called muslim senators etc and lobbies and arab investors will just st on thier arse.

thise is grounds to force this guy out of office, yet nobody will utisise it.

  
Sadly I agree with your comments... a sign of the times?

On one hand, Muslims are besieged by fanatical extremists who know not what jihad means... On the other hand we have the crazy end-times Neo-Con Zionist Christian terrorists!

Muslims are between a rock and a hard place.... Mainly due to our own impotence to react to attacks from both sides in a proper forceful manner!

Muslims should:
a) Impose a total complete oil embargo on these Neo ZioNazis crazies of the west
b) A complete lock-up of the  jahil Mullahs terrorists (an enemy who I believe are playing into the hands of these Christian Neo-cons - wittingly &/or unwittingly)

[hassan]

yeah right dooms day....Allah will secure He secured in past too.
        but nothing will save that country who even think about it.....

[crazyinsane105]

Muslims should:
a) Impose a total complete oil embargo on these Neo ZioNazis crazies of the west
b) A complete lock-up of the  jahil Mullahs terrorists (an enemy who I believe are playing into the hands of these Christian Neo-cons - wittingly &/or unwittingly)

Sadly most of these Muslim countries that sell oil do no have the capability to make food themselves. If we cut off oil, they'lll respond in kind by cutting off our food supply. Countries like Pakistan and maybe a few other countries won't be effected as much, but KSA, Iran, Kuwait, etc. would be.

[asal-main]

therein is the problem. Muslim countries arent structured and united to put up a fight, not to mention 50 years behind in just about everything. with countless of poor, refugees and ever increasing desire for ethnic, sectarian wars. Unless you understand the problem, you wont have a solution. Mullahs dont get this part. Yet go on exciting jahil crowds in mad anti-western frenzy, while al-Q actually wants to destroy the whole thing, people, infrastructure inclusive. Go back to the days of swords, guns and horses, perhaps that way they can reconquer rome and persia? Fanatics like these were responsible for the decline of Muslim spain.

[dargay]

This Tim Tancredo is a nutcase and has zero chance of being elected President or VP. Dont worry too much about him.

[Pikes]

I say bring it up buddy .... I bet that would be last day We will see america on the map of the world.  1 billion muslims will give their lives to protect our Holy Places.    but i dont think so that would be needed because Allah himself is the protector of Holy Kaaba & Masjid Nabawi.

[Tropicana]

it seems that this sick jaskass was too drunk when he gave that outrageous statement

I dont think he was drunk. Maybe you should start realizingng that many many Americans hate Saudis and Muslims. You may think that Americans are your loyal friends, and that Zionists are responsible for any misunderstanding. But in reality, there are many many Americans who love nothing more than to bash Muslims

[SaudiArabian]

Tom Tancredo Speaking in a Resturant On Bombing The Holy Cities of Makkah and Madinah

right click on the link above then "save target as" the size is 1.27 MB

[chief1]

this man should be hanged in the public...without any mercy..
he is a terrorist.

[aziqbal]

This Tim Tancredo is a nutcase and has zero chance of being elected President or VP. Dont worry too much about him.

He might have zero chance of becoming president but why is there one rule for one and another rule for someone else.

When Iran said we should wipe Israel off the map whole world is up in arms against them, now when this retarded son of a dog talks of attacking Mecca why isnt whole muslim world not ready to attack America???

When we threat them they start barking but its ok for them to threat us, hell no we should close US embassey in Pakistan and quickly build our nuclear stop piles we need minimum of 150 nukes.

[Dizasta]

WASHINGTON: The US presidential candidate Tom Tancredo said that in his opinion the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Madina should be attacked if America is attacked.

The presidential candidate belonging to the Republican Party said in a restaurant that the US should consider attack on the sacred Muslim cities of Mecca and Madina to save America from nuclear attacks.

He said that in case of nuclear attacks they would decide how to target Mecca and Madina. He said this is the only way to save the US from attacks and through which it can be secured.

It may be mentioned that this is not for the first time that any statement regarding attacks on the sacred cities of the Muslims has been issued from Tom Tancredo. Earlier in 2005 also, he said about attacks on Mecca and Madina.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=26946

Well in that case, all Muslim based oil producing countries should immediately and effectively stop selling oil to America and its allies. Then watch how the cookie crumbles!!