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[noxiouspython]

Aoa


^^^^I get your point bro. Thanx for explaining


w/salaam

[haroons222]

aparantly, we (the people of pakistan) paid for the generals education...he is qualified from Sandhurst Military School, well versed in warfare and geo politics...as a matter of fact....ever since he joined the army, he has continuesly done courses and educated himself to excell in every field..
lets talk about shaukat aziz...shauket aziz prior to coming into pakistani politics was the vice president of the worlds bigest bank (citi bank) and was next in line for presidency....this makes benazirs and khans degrees look pale in comparison....we have a star team....we have one of the worlds foremost economic geniuses driving the countries development and we have a highly qualified educated and experienced general (general is no insult, 90% of us can never become one because we are not intelectualy able enough!) in the tactitioners seat..

we are rising...tomorrow is ours...be aware world, we are muslim...! we are back....NO to injustice!

Utho beta UTHO,subha ho gaye hai,SChool nahi jana????

[Pakistan First]

Okay, so he was a playboy and fooled with loads of women around the world. He may have "reproduced" here and there (Imran strongly denies this allegation) and he churns out nonsense to fellow Pakistanis about being brown sahibs and not endorsing their own Pakistani culture but only embracing western ideals.

The lion of Pakistan, the sher of the Pathans, the greatest all rounder Pakistan has ever produced, has in the last few years turned his ambitions from cricket and charity to the great Pakistani male past time...politics. This article will attempt to briefly look at some of the reasons critics/Pakistanis have raised their arms as to why the Khan should not be AND CANNOT BE the captain of politics in the land of pure.

Hypocrisy: Calling himself a born again Muslim, many in Pakistan cannot believe this change and feel it borders either on a schizo complex or a ploy to adhere to the more religious amongst us. Feminists have argued and raised doubts that the Khan has led a double life in the past with his playboy image and pot smoking, that have filled the pages of tabloids across the world. Other radicals amongst us will point to the fact that this born again Muslim and champion of "ethesab" and "insaaf" has married not only a Jewish woman but a rich one at that. Accusations of gold digging and marrying a Jew/kafir plagued Pakistani papers in the last election courtesy of Nawaz and his media spinner Mushahid. Their spinning combination helped bowl Immy on debut.

Political Experience: Fine. Excellent credentials in academia. With a major in Political Science and Economics from Oxford, the Khan has the education and hence the academic pre-requisite to rule the country. Other national leaders like Farooq Leghari, Wasim Sajjad and ZAB, also graced some these hallowed institutions. But what did they all achieve? Benazir herself, a well educated woman did nothing to improve the destiny and lives of her people and neither did the other mentioned Cambridge-Oxford grads. On the other hand, other leaders with the feudal approach, have shown an excellent education is not what is required to make it to the top in Pakistan. It is just the power you are born with. What all this leads down to is that Immy, (according to his critics) just does not have what it takes to be a political leader. He is inexperienced with the rules of the game, he does not have the feudal connection and most of all he is too idealistic and arrogant to survive on the dangerous pitch of Pakistani politics.

Just a cricketer: Winning the world cup and defeating India in India in a cricket test series and building a hospital for cancer patients are no achievements that should deserve the right to rule your country. He is just a cricket hero, his critics say, who in a country with a lack of heroes and surplus of sycophants has moulded a man who once denied that he would ever into politics into a contender for the crown. Who does he think he is - this brash, arrogant, hypocritical ex-womanizing gold digger? A little fame can blow up any one's ego.

Now for the flip side.

The rebuttal.

In terms of being a hypocrite - who in Pakistan isn't? Especially in politics. Every politician in every nation of this world has portrayed double standards and changed their ideals on a number of occasions. On the other hand, let's say we even give Immy the benefit of the doubt. Every one is entitled to a second chance. (Though for the record, Nawaz Sharif is on his third). Let us say the Khan is a born again Muslim and his wife Haiqa (Jemima) is a true believer. Kudos for Imran. Bringing one of them to our side. But the question remains then - does it really matter if he was a playboy and a womanizer and how would these traits affect him becoming a successful leader of Pakistan? One of the greatest maxims that has arisen in modern politics in the 90's is "it's the economy stupid." Clinton may be a pathological liar, but Americans are not complaining. The economy is booming, the poor are getting jobs, more students are getting educated and on the whole people's lives have improved. People have said that to be a leader one has to upright and good and Jinnah like. Well the Quaid was a great leader but for most of his life he was a dedicated bachelor living up the good life in Hampstead, London and Bombay. What it comes down to is that personal life should not be an issue. In the old days, you never had the modern media. Otherwise, Jinnah would have remembered for being a cradle snatcher, Nehru for having a torrid Lewinsky style affair with Edwina Mountbatten and Gandhi for experimenting sexually with his niece. In essence if you can get the job done without being corrupt and if you can improve the lives of millions than in the final analysis that is what counts.

Political Experience. In reality and with each passing day Imran Khan is learning the rules of the game. The dilemma in Pakistan has always been whether to enter the system within and change it or to challenge it directly. The Khan lost the last elections because he directly challenged the political system. On a platform of revolution, accountability and justice he scared the pants out of the PPP, Muslim League, and the military establishment. Accountability and justice under Imran would have put a lot of people behind bars. It was hence essential that Imran and the the Therik-e-Insaaf not win a single seat anywhere. Just imagine now. If Imran and his party had even one seat they would have a voice. And that's a voice too many. It would give the potential mandate for a future party and a future political force. The only logical deduction is election fraud. The fact that Imran Khan hero of a whole country lost in his own home constituents, where he is loved like a God is a little suspicious. Also remembering the month of Ramadan, only 18% of the population turned up to vote. Calculated and planned, elections in Pakistan always are, by the people who have money, who then plan to retrieve most of the campaign cost after they become members of parliament.

Not just a cricketer. The two hardest jobs in Pakistan is being the leader of the country and the captain of the Pakistan cricket team. Expectations from the public are just too high. Actually let me refresh that statement. Being the captain of Pakistan is the hardest job. Just ask Wasim Akram, his house has been attacked and his father has been kidnapped. Cricket, so integral a sport to the Pakistani identity and masses is considered more a religion in relation to politics. Imran chose the best cricketers for the right games and ran the team in a firm efficient manner. Governance is many ways is similar. Choosing the right people for the job and making sure no one flounders in their respective positions. Politics is a convoluted realm but being the captain of Pakistan involves politics in itself.

Still, while this is an interesting analogy, reality needs to set in. Imran Khan has a lot to learn and a long way to go. He is searching for the right people, (like he did in cricket). He may not be the best person out there to lead the country, but he has the recognition and to some extent a hero's respect and adulation amongst his people. Out of every potential candidate out there, he seems to the lesser of the evils. When he had announced that he was setting up a political party, I like many others thought it was a big mistake. Stick to social welfare and charity, I thought. Politics is no place for him. He is a fool mesmerized by the ass lickers around him. I then had the good fortune of hearing him speak one day thinking it would be a joke. But I was impressed. He spoke articulately, but most of all he showed that he really cared about the people of this country and that he was willing to put everything in to it, to make Pakistan a better place to live. But like many of Pakistan's generations, we have been deceived by the promises of demagogue. We all supported ZAB and his socialist "kapra, roti, makan" and Benazir with her prodigal promises. Imran seems to be the real deal. He could be the last hope to bring Pakistan out of its social and economical problems. He just needs the right players to do it.

[Caesar]

Utho beta UTHO,subha ho gaye hai,SChool nahi jana????

And that's the statement u could come up with??? Shows your maturity and what a genius you are!!  With all due respect What an arse!!

[haroons222]

And that's the statement u could come up with??? Shows your maturity and what a genius you are!!  With all due respect What an arse!!

what else do u want me to say,no logical arguement would suffice.You wudnt see the truth coming if it hit u between the eyes.

Good post PakistanFirst.I dont actually care if he is a womanizer,the point is,he is sincere and trustworthy.Golddigging?i dont think he made any money off his divorce!!But regardless of anything,he is honest and sincere.

ppl laugh abt him getting one seat,but look at the how much the govt. and other political parties try to play him down,it just shows how scared they are off him!

[Pakistan First]

Good post PakistanFirst.I dont actually care if he is a womanizer,the point is,he is sincere and trustworthy.Golddigging?i dont think he made any money off his divorce!!But regardless of anything,he is honest and sincere.

ppl laugh abt him getting one seat,but look at the how much the govt. and other political parties try to play him down,it just shows how scared they are off him!

I agree. Also observe closely the amount of coverage he gets on the media. In talk shows, all major channels try to invite him as a member of the opposition and in most of the cases, we see him there representing the opposition instead of PML-N, MMA, PPP representatives.

[MoThSmOkE]

Imran is confused. He seems to be representing MMA alot these days.

[faizan khaliq]

Imran is confused. He seems to be representing MMA alot these days.

his opposition to present set up is based on nationalistic feelings ,there is an inverse proportion between Pro-westrenism and Pakistani nationalism after war on whatever.When he talks against west he sounds like MMA leader.
  There is another point to it as well , in middle age or around lust of power overpowers the lust of sex
but the attitude remains the same.Imran had no control overhimself on lust matter may it be power or.....
so let him mature up a bit

[Pakistan First]

Minister files privilege motion against Imran Khan

ISLAMABAD: Labour and Manpower Minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan has filed a privilege motion against Imran Khan, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman, for allegedly using abusive language against members of the parliament, sources said. In his motion filed with the National Assembly Secretariat on Monday, the minister said that Khan, in a statement, had dubbed parliamentarians a bunch of "thieves and saleable commodity", sources said. They said Khan's statement was published in an Urdu daily on April 28. The minister also sought the support of NA Speaker Chaudhry Amir Hussain to approve and refer his motion to the Privileges Committee of the NA. staff report

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...1-5-2007_pg7_16

[faz101]

i've started wondering if given all Pakistan's options, Imran Khan would make the better choice for a PM then anyone else inc. NS or BB or whoever else. The guy has more credibility and brains then all of them which to be honest isn't saying much but still....

[Caesar]

i've started wondering if given all Pakistan's options, Imran Khan would make the better choice for a PM then anyone else inc. NS or BB or whoever else. The guy has more credibility and brains then all of them which to be honest isn't saying much but still....

Please dude.....enough of this joking around....get serious!! In plain and simple terms the man is a nutcase!!! He IS NOT THE KING AND WILL NEVER BE THE KING....HE HAS NO SUCH ATTRIBUTES!!!

[faz101]

Please dude.....enough of this joking around....get serious!! In plain and simple terms the man is a nutcase!!! He IS NOT THE KING AND WILL NEVER BE THE KING....HE HAS NO SUCH ATTRIBUTES!!!

fair enough but i mean who else is there? perhaps best just to stick to the status quo then.

[MoThSmOkE]

Imran Khan has more brain? Who said that?

Frankly, Benazir has the highest IQ out of Imran, Nawaz. Relatively speaking that is.

[Pakistan First]

Case to be filed against Altaf in London: Imran

ISLAMABAD: Dubbing Altaf Hussain Chief Muttahida Qaumi Movement as a major terrorist, Chairman Tehreek-e-Insaf Imran Khan has said that legal team is being constituted which would go to London and file a case against the MQM Quaid for killing innocent people.

Addressing a function organized by the Islamabad Bar Association Imran Khan said MQM was never a political party rather it was a group and organization of "Gundas" prospering under the patronage of a dictator.

On May 12, he said, MQM has crossed all the limitation of terrorsim in Karachi and innocent people were killed.

Imran alleged that President General Pervez Musharraf and Altaf Hussain are carrying out terrorsim in the country just to please America.

He urged lawyers to keep unity among their ranks and expand their ongoing movement for the independence of Judiciary. He said British Prime Minister Tony Blair had killed Muslims in the name of war on terrorism while one of the biggest terrorist Altaf Hussain is in his shelter.

He feared that the President would not reinstate Chief Justice of Pakistan Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry. He lauded the role of media who timely and correctly informed the people about the case of Chief Justice of Pakistan.

For the first time, Imran held that Power of Supreme Court of Pakistan would return with the support of citizens of the country. Pakistan cannot develop without independence of judiciary and setup of independence election commission.

Criticizing the Government unwise policies, he said inflation is increasing day by day in the country, round about RS 8 to 9 billion are being utilized for the construction of GHQ and million of ruppess were spent to hold rally in Islamabad by Government.

Additional Advocate General Khadim Hussain Qaiser who tendered resignation in protest of the Presidential reference against Chief Justice of Pakistan and President District Bar Haroon Rashid also addressed on the occasion.

http://www.paktribune.com/news/print.php?id=178696

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ANOTHER VIDEO OF IMRAN KHAN SPEAKING ON MQM AND KARACHI CARNAGE OF MAY 12

http://www.moveforjustice.org/Forum/tabid/...ic/Default.aspx

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Video showing Imran's life and his current efforts for independent judiciary system in Pakistan.

Imran Khan in his own words

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dL9XRv2H2E

Imran has everything in life, still he struggles for people of Pakistan. Superb!

[Pakistan First]

IMRAN KHAN IN LONDON. VIDEOS.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_xe0kBLq4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFnVRhcanU8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdpeEcSEztc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77pEKcDnduQ

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...499546852061757

WARM WELCOME GIVEN TO IMRAN KHAN ON HIS ARRIVAL AT LONDON

http://www.moveforjustice.org/Forum/tabid/...13/Default.aspx

[Pakistan First]

Courtesy of Chief 1

[Skull-Buster]

the problem is that, with most of the Pakistanis i have talked to, most of them say that they agree with Imran Khan's views and believe him to be the most trustworthy and patriotic politicians. BUT they do not join his party coz they say he is "unpopular".

i say, how can he be popular unless we stand for him? we should try, at whatever level we can to support Imran Khan and urge our friends and relatives back home to do the same. guys no party becomes popular unless the people make it. and Imran Khan has shown that he is the only politician capable of leading Pakistan.

PLEASE SUPPORT IMRAN KHAN!

[greatpeople1]

I saw Imran Khan and Imran Farooque's interview by Geo News. The name of the program was "Point of View From London". The host was Amir Ghauri.

The program was nice as it dint had the ty[ical pakistani politicans cult of arguging they definitly both looked very sensible when they talked and respected each others views. Actually i was impressed the way IMRAN KAHN handled.
The program definitly shed light on  point of views from both sides.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ-N82yn-to

here the link of you tube and you'll be suprised to see that pakistani politicans can be very reasonable in there argumnets .

[greatpeople1]

<<<<<<<<<< View Point (Sir Imran Khan & Dr.Imran Farooq) - London >>>>>>>>>>



1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyfitn-GtT4 (View Point ( Imran Khan & Dr.Imran Farooq) - Part 1)

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0-PhP5l4tI (View Point ( Imran Khan & Dr.Imran Farooq) - Part 2)

3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-xaRoFSqgQ (View Point (Imran Khan & Dr.Imran Farooq) - Part 3)

4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgBC4tAD3e8 (View Point ( Imran Khan & Dr.Imran Farooq) - Part 4)

5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrtamjahTMs (View Point ( Imran Khan & Dr.Imran Farooq) - Part 5)

[Skull-Buster]

the funny part was when Imran Farooq said MQM is against the military establishment but at the same time they support Musharraf. Imran Khan pointed out this contradiction but Farooq had no reasonable reply and kept beating around the bush. also Farooq said that he is against many policies of the govt but at the same time they support the govt. again Imran Khan pointed out this contradiction. Dr. Farooq looked quite puzzled.

[clutch]

Imran Khan has more brain? Who said that?

Frankly, Benazir has the highest IQ out of Imran, Nawaz. Relatively speaking that is.

Benazir's bitchh factor negates her (allegedly) high IQ rating...
Therefore, due to her bitchiness... she is one dumb whore!

As per Imran Khan, personally, I don't have an opinion about him yet.... still studying him....

[maglomanic]

Benazir's bitchh factor negates her (allegedly) high IQ rating...
Therefore, due to her bitchiness... she is one dumb whore!

As per Imran Khan, personally, I don't have an opinion about him yet.... still studying him....

A couple of times he sounded so mature that i really wonder. Then i look back at his flip flops and that really is a turn off. Hope he can get his act together. By aligning himself with NS,Qazi and BB for political ends he is proving himself to be no better than these same politicians.

[maglomanic]

the funny part was when Imran Farooq said MQM is against the military establishment but at the same time they support Musharraf. Imran Khan pointed out this contradiction but Farooq had no reasonable reply and kept beating around the bush. also Farooq said that he is against many policies of the govt but at the same time they support the govt. again Imran Khan pointed out this contradiction. Dr. Farooq looked quite puzzled.

Thats true SKULL. But then do u get to see the interview in which Imran said he is "trying" get out of parlimentsince it's rubber stamp and nothing else? Waseem akhter asked him you have trying all this while to resign from parliment and couldn't do it..who was stopping you from it?parliment's time is already over and you are still thinking!!!

So it's not like Imran Khan doesn't come up with gold nuggets of his own at times.

[Skull-Buster]

Thats true SKULL. But then do u get to see the interview in which Imran said he is "trying" get out of parlimentsince it's rubber stamp and nothing else? Waseem akhter asked him you have trying all this while to resign from parliment and couldn't do it..who was stopping you from it?parliment's time is already over and you are still thinking!!!

So it's not like Imran Khan doesn't come up with gold nuggets of his own at times.

bro, i knw senior PTI members who are also involved in the case against Altaf in London. i talked to them on this issue. they said that Imran wants to resign from the parliment as ALL the opposition leaders have said that they will collectively resign from the parliment before the elections. one man's resignation is useless. if the opposition resigns, he will resign, otherwise, he wont. yes but i agree he is not a saint, he has his own faults. but keeping in mind our current choices, he is the best bet.

[maglomanic]

bro, i knw senior PTI members who are also involved in the case against Altaf in London. i talked to them on this issue. they said that Imran wants to resign from the parliment as ALL the opposition leaders have said that they will collectively resign from the parliment before the elections. one man's resignation is useless. if the opposition resigns, he will resign, otherwise, he wont. yes but i agree he is not a saint, he has his own faults. but keeping in mind our current choices, he is the best bet.

Skull  here lies my problem with Imran. He accuses Musharref of alliance with corrupt and terrorist politicians while he himself is doing the same by making an alliance with opposition here. His personal life is the last thing i am woried about. And actually i do kind of think it is irrelevant, my only problem with him is his flip flop on the very issues he is supposedly offering is an alternate solution for. I have recently seen him talk and i can tell you at times i totally feel he is talking like a very mature and sensible person but then he comes up with some very stupid political decisions (and going after MQM is not one of those, that would be a great thing if he can actually do it). I hope he forumlates a clear policy as to what he wants to do and sticks to it. I m sure people will be more inclined to listen to him and support him in future. It's not like people dont want an alternative. It's just that he has to prove himself worthy atleast in words and a little with deed that he can do even now.

[Skull-Buster]

yes bro you are right. i do not agree with Imran's decision to ally with the corrupt politicians. altho the PTI members say that his alliance is limited for the restoration of democracy, i dont want a democracy until there is an independant election commission and no feudal lord can take votes by threatening his people. this is very unlikely to happen in the near future. if there is a system which guarantees that only that person will be elected whom the people want, then Bismillah.

[haroons222]

yes bro you are right. i do not agree with Imran's decision to ally with the corrupt politicians. altho the PTI members say that his alliance is limited for the restoration of democracy, i dont want a democracy until there is an independant election commission and no feudal lord can take votes by threatening his people. this is very unlikely to happen in the near future. if there is a system which guarantees that only that person will be elected whom the people want, then Bismillah.

I agree,he has stated this on live tv that the alliance is only till musharraf steps down and then each party can go back to their own manifesto.I dono how clear he can make it to ppl.You know its funny ppl use to joke and criticize him of being politically immature and not making alliances with ppl who differed from his principles and views.Now that he has been doing this,and is more political,many of the same ppl are accusing him for allying with the wrong ppl etc.

For me,putting enuf pressure on Mush to step down from one of his posts and hold free and fair elections is the main goal,when the elections do come, ppl will ofcourse vote for one party or the other and if someone doesnt like MMA,they can vote them out,plain and simple.

[MoThSmOkE]

As far as I have listened to him, his views are there, Nawaz/Bhutto have the right to contest elections, and if they win, they have to be given a chance. He thinks a strong judiciary (if possible) would tackle the corrupted.

[Pakistan First]

References against Imran sent to CEC

* Opp walks out of NA in protest
* Vows references against president, PM, others

Staff Report

ISLAMABAD: National Assembly Speaker Chauhdry Amir Hussain on Wednesday sent two disqualification references against MNA Imran Khan to the chief election commissioner (CEC) for further action.

The MQM and Minister for Parliamentary Affairs Dr Sher Afgan Niazi filed these references against the Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaaf chairman.

“I evaluated the references prima facie. In my view the references were valid,” the speaker said. “I applied my mind to these references honestly and with responsibility and made the decision after thoroughly thinking on these references.”

The speaker was bound to forward the reference within 30 days, while he did so in eight. The CEC is to summon both parties to testify and complete proceeding on the references within 30 days. He must announce his decision in 90 days. Protesting the decision, opposition parties walked out of the house and boycotted Wednesday’s afternoon proceedings. While walking out, they shouted, “Katil, Katil MQM Katil”.

Opposition members vowed to file similar disqualification references against the president, prime minister, PML president, railways minister, minister of state for minorities, former minister of state for communications Shahid Jamil Qureshi and the “lotas” who ditched their parties to join the government.

Mehmood Khan Achakzai slammed the government for failing to initiate investigations into the killing of 42 people in Karachi on May 12. “It is condemnable that the president and prime minister did not take any action against the culprits of the Karachi carnage, but Imran is being victimised for calling a British national (Altaf Hussain) a terrorist. This is a mockery of justice and we condemn it,” he said.

Qamar Zaman Kaira of the PPP accused the government of political victimisation. “We had filed references against Chaudhry Shujaat and our party turncoats, but no action was taken. Now, the government has become active against Imran Khan for political motives,” he said.

Khawaja Asif of the PML-N suggested that few MNAs qualified under the criteria in articles 62 and 63.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...21-6-2007_pg1_1

It will firm my resolve: Imran

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chief Imran Khan said on Wednesday that the National Assembly speaker had referred the MQM’s reference to the ECP in a ‘haste’ and that it would firm his resolve to fight the ‘terrorists’. He said it was tragic for the country when all political decisions such as the elections timing revolved around prolonging General Musharaf’s rule. “If Musharraf did not pave the way for the peaceful transfer of power, it would lead the country towards bloodshed and chaos.” staff report

[haroons222]

btw, anyone here involved with the Toronto chapter of PTI. Imran Personally talked to the whole group over the fone for abt 30 mins last long weekend,that is really something.There were abt 80 ppl and its only been active for 2 months or so.

Anyone who wants to join,pm me.

Skull,again Imran said that this alliance is only till they force Mush to give up one of his posts.Do u really think they will help each other come election time:P:P.He is being political as well,choosing lesser of the evils.

[Aliph Ahmed]

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[Aliph Ahmed]

A person who couldnt be true to his own daughter who is his own flesh and blood, how can that very person be very true to the country and people who are not his flesh and blood ?

A person who abandoned his daughter at a time when she needed him most, what guarantee is there that he will not abandon his people who are not his flesh and blood ?

You guys can say all you want but there is no way Imran Khan making it to the " king " status. Heck, he cant even make it to the governer and that is the truth. Elections are not far and we all shall see the results.

Which offcourse we all know. If he wins ( which he will not ), he was always slated to win and if he lose then oh well, government manipulated the results. Not the first time, we'll be hearing that. Will we now? Welcome to Pakistan. :-)

Now that I have wasted a few precious moments of my life on this scum Imran, you guys can go back to your desks and promote him all you want but to no avail.

I see PPP coming back with new faces.  

[lein303]

A person who couldnt be true to his own daughter who is his own flesh and blood, how can that very person be very true to the country and people who are not his flesh and blood ?

A person who abandoned his daughter at a time when she needed him most, what guarantee is there that he will not abandon his people who are not his flesh and blood ?

You guys can say all you want but there is no way Imran Khan making it to the " king " status. Heck, he cant even make it to the governer and that is the truth. Elections are not far and we all shall see the results.

Which offcourse we all know. If he wins ( which he will not ), he was always slated to win and if he lose then oh well, government manipulated the results. Not the first time, we'll be hearing that. Will we now? Welcome to Pakistan. :-)

Now that I have wasted a few precious moments of my life on this scum Imran, you guys can go back to your desks and promote him all you want but to no avail.

I see PPP coming back with new faces.  

I would to support PPP but look at there leadership all of which are lollypops to bhutto and that is corrupt to the core. They serve her more than they serve there own country.PPP was set up to benefit the people of Pakistan but look at its feudal leadershit that runs in the family which is not the essence of true democracy. Dont get me wrong PPP has some brilliant minds but as long as Benezir is the chair women for life the party wont get my support

[Skull-Buster]

A person who couldnt be true to his own daughter who is his own flesh and blood, how can that very person be very true to the country and people who are not his flesh and blood ?

A person who abandoned his daughter at a time when she needed him most, what guarantee is there that he will not abandon his people who are not his flesh and blood ?

You guys can say all you want but there is no way Imran Khan making it to the " king " status. Heck, he cant even make it to the governer and that is the truth. Elections are not far and we all shall see the results.

Which offcourse we all know. If he wins ( which he will not ), he was always slated to win and if he lose then oh well, government manipulated the results. Not the first time, we'll be hearing that. Will we now? Welcome to Pakistan. :-)

Now that I have wasted a few precious moments of my life on this scum Imran, you guys can go back to your desks and promote him all you want but to no avail.

I see PPP coming back with new faces.  

lol..come up with something better.

[aziqbal]

Alot of the stuff Imran says makes alot of sense and even some of his predictions are right.

[JANA]

Alot of the stuff Imran says makes alot of sense and even some of his predictions are right.

most of the stuff he said might be right but he lacks vision.

Look at his conduct he is sitting with MMA and MMA is sitting with the government so what he different attitude is he showing.

Here politics is not played with the ideas rather its a  family affair.
PPP and PML no matter how many factions they have are always there to get seats by hook or by crook

[haroons222]

most of the stuff he said might be right but he lacks vision.

Look at his conduct he is sitting with MMA and MMA is sitting with the government so what he different attitude is he showing.

Here politics is not played with the ideas rather its a  family affair.
PPP and PML no matter how many factions they have are always there to get seats by hook or by crook

MMA isnt sitting with the establishment(COAS+PREZ) and the fake parliament we have,they are minority in the parliament.As far as provinces are concerned,that is a separate body.So how can MMA be sitting with the govt?(fed,since thats what Imran attacks).

Also,he probably talks more abt vision then most of our politicians.He cud have recruited same old feudals and industrialists into his party but he chose not to,so that shows he doesnt have vision?

Yes,a leader abandoned his child(supposed) and will leave his ppl.Who cares if he built the biggest charitable organization in the country.Lets bow down to a traitor who doesnt even live in tihs country and sends orders from abroad to kill other Pakistanis.

[Aliph Ahmed]

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[MirBadshah]

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look on my avatar, like it or not you have to live with it for another 5 years.

[Aliph Ahmed]

look on my avatar, like it or not you have to live with it for another 5 years.

Something I already acknowledged on post number 72.  :-(