Pakistani Sam's & Radar Systems, What Sams and Radars we have Options

[pingpong]

Could any one plz list the sam's and radar systems which pakistan currently using and what are their future plans. :PakistanFlag:

[blain2]

Go here: http://www.pakdef.info/pakmilitary/airforce/index.html

Go to the surveillance tab and you will see the following:

# Marconi Type 992 radar
# TRS 2215 3-D radar & TRS 2230 3-D radar
# AN/ALR-69 radar warning receiver
# Other Air Defence Radars
# Pakistan Air Defence Ground Environment System

Read the details there.

For SAMs, pick the tab Surface-to-Air.

You will see:
SAM
# Hughes Missile Systems Company FIM-92 Stinger low-altitude surface-to-air missile system
# Matra BAe Dynamics Mistral MANPADS low-altitude surface-to-air missile system
# Thomson-CSF Airsys Crotale low-altitude surface-to-air missile system
# Dr A Q Khan Research Laboratories Anza Mk I and Mk II
# Almaz S-75 family of (SA-2 'Guideline') low- to high-altitude surface-to-air missile systems
# BOFORS MISSILES - RBS 70 AIR DEFENCE MISSILE SYSTEM

There is ample info to satisfy your question.
Regards

[pingpong]

http://www.paktribune.com/exclusive/exclus...tails.php?id=77

Air - To - Air Missiles

Currently there are four types of missiles in PAF inventory. They are :

AIM - 9 P2:

The AIM-9P2 is the 1980s update of the older AIM-9Bs. It has improved lead acquisition capability, solid state electronics, improved infrared warhead and a reduced smoke motor. The Sidewinder has been Pakistan's standard air-to-air missile since 1956. The range is from 4 to 8 Km.

AIM - 9 L:

This is the latest version of this long-lived missile. It weighs 86 Kg. compared to 75 Kg. of -9Bs. It is an all-aspect attack missile and also has greater ECM protection. The range is about 10 Km.

MATRA R 550:

It is a 91 Kg. infrared seeker, intended for dog-fight missions. The range is from 2 to 10 Km. depending on the altitude and speed. It is of French origin that came with the Mirages but can also arm A-5s and other aircraft.

PL - 5:

The Chinese PL-5 is infact a copy of the French -550 missile but lacking the performance of its counterpart. It was supplied with the F-7Ps. The range is from 4 to 6 km.

Surface-To-Air Missiles

CROTALE 2000/3000/4000:

PAF inducted Crotale 2000s in 1975-6, Crotale 3000s in 1986 and Crotale 4000s in 1985. These formed a total of around 6 squardons. PAF's Crotale consitute an all-weather system with near-instantaneous reaction, highly lethal fire power and a near 100 % kill probability. These can be transported by rail and air without any special preparation.

HQ - 2 B:

Based on the Soviet SA-2 SAM, the Chinese HQ-2B has been developed and refined to include ECCM with fine anti-jamming ability. It has an operational range from 1000 m to 27000 m and a speed of 4.2 Mach. It was inducted in 1983 and equips 2 squardons.

PL - 9:

Developed for the area-defence, this comprehensive air defence network combines ultra-low level search radar and fire control radar with a combination of PL-9 SAM and twin 35/37 mm guns. It interfaces guns and missiles against low-level attack aircraft by means of optical units and automatic computer-controlled infrared-laser radar.

Air-To-Surface Missiles

AGM - 65 A/B:

This missile was introduced in 1983. It is for use against tanks, ships and concrete defence. It has a TV guidance and the warhead weighs 57 and 136 Kg. It costs between $60,000 and $100,000. The missile is carried by the F-16 aircraft and has a kill rate of around 80 %.

AM - 39:

The air-launched Exocet AM-39 anti-ship missiles are carried by the PAF's Mirage VPA3 of No. 8 Maritime Squardon for maritime strike. They can also be carried by the Atlantic aircraft and Sea King helicopter of the Navy. The range is from 40 to 75 km. The missile weighs about 655 Kg. with a 165 Kg. warhead. It can fly at just under Mach 1 at about 2-3 m above water.

Bombs

Atlas:

Atlas guided bomb was basically intended for the Mirage V aircraft, but after a modification PAF has been able to arm F-16s with it also. This gives PAF a real lethal strike capability. The bomb weighs 2000 lb. and can be guided and fired through Thompson CSF pod.

Paveway:

This bomb weighs 2000 lbs. and is carried by the F-16 aircraft. It costs somewhere around $30,000. and the kit can be applied to bombs anywhere within the 500 to 3000 lb. range. It is usually fired at a height less than 2000 ft. and has a range of about 2 - 4 km.

Durrandal:

Durrandel is an airfield attack munition that is used to crater runways. It weighs 195 Kg. and six to ten can be carried by the Mirage III/V aircraft. The penetration is claimed to be 40 cm of concrete and area disrupted to be 150 to 200 sq.m.

Rockeye:

Rockeyes are basically cluster-bombs i.e numerous bomblets are present in a bomb shell which are released at a particular height. It is a wide area weapon which is used against troop and artillary concentrations. Weight is some where around 600 lb.

General Purpose HE Bombs:

PAF has general purpose bombs of 250 lb. 500 lb. 750 lb. and the 1000 lb. range that are used against large land targets. They don't have any guidance systems and are used either for the troop harrasment or against buildings. These are carried by F-16, Mirage V and the A-5 aircraft.

Radars

The Pakistan Air Defence Command was formed in 1975. It is based at Chaklala and exercises surveillance, control, and coordination of all pakistan airspace. It controls all the air defence elements (fighters, SAMs, ack ack guns etc) which are fully integrated with the other weapon systems to form a cohesive and potent deterrent force. The Air Office Commanding, ADC, is responsible for maintaining a highly responsive combat-worthy status of all air defence units. The HQ is built underground, to a depth of somewhere between 5 to 10 metres. It is divided into three regional air commands as :

Northern Air Command (Peshawar)
Central Air Command (Sargodha)
Southern Air Command (Masroor)

Subordinate to it are four sector operations centers and subordinate to the SOC's are seven Control And Reporting Centers. The Sectors with their HQs are :

North : Peshawar
West : Quetta
Center : Sargodha
South : Karachi

There are 8 separate identified radar systems netted into the Pakistan Air Defence system. Of these, 5 are long-range and the remaining 3 are low-level.

Long Range Radar Systems

1.FPS-89/100: It is located at two locations. It has a search range of 350 km.
2.Type 514: This is a Chinese system acquired in 1978.
3.Condor: This high-level system was acquired from UK in 1968.
4.TPS-43G: This is an advanced American radar system with a 200 mile range. These were commissioned in 1985.
5.Thompson CSF: These are ATC radars that corrospond to Pakistan's growing civil air traffic routes,
but they are really placed to boost early warning from the Indian border.

Low Level Radars

1.AR-1/15Six: AR-1 radars were installed in 1968-9. They have a range of 150 km.
2.MPDR45: MPDRs were obtained from Siemens of Germany in 1979-80. They are
controlled from six control and reporting centers which are also mobile. The three versions
available with Pakistan are :
MPDR 45 (with 45 km. range)
MPDR 60 (with 60 km. range)
MPDR 90 (with 90 km. range)

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Long Range Radar Systems

FPS-89/100:

There are two installations, at Sakesar near Sargodha and Badin in the Thar desert. They are modernized versions of the US-supplied MAP radar, the FPS-6/20. The former is the height-finder, the latter is the search radar with a 350 km range. Sakesar also has a Plessey HF-200 height-finder acquired in 1967. Badin's FPS-6 was destroyed in the 1965 war and was replaced with a Chinese height- finder.

Type 514: This is a Chinese system first acquired in 1978. It is known to be installed at Skardu and Gilgit in the Northern areas and at other locations. No other details are available.

Condor: The high-level system was acquired from the UK in 1968 and serves with Nos. 400, 403 and 410 Squadrons.

TPS-43G: This transportable radar is expected to remain in first line US service till 2010. Pakistan purchased sis systems at a cost of $60 million and all were commissioned by 1985. It consists of two modules, each less than 3 tons, and can be transported by two 5-ton trucks, a C-130, or two medium-lift helicopters. A six-man team can reassemble the radar within 50 minutes. It's high-level range is 400 km, but its low-level range is classified. It is a 3D system with a 4 megawatt output. The system was the second phase of Project Crystal initiated in 1976 to provide Pakistan with a modern air defence system.

Thomson-CSF ATC: As far back as 1984 the Pakistan Government planned a modern Air Traffic Control System that could be netted into its ADGE. Possibly owing to financial stringency, the six radar started arriving only in 1987. The Pakistani ATC radar are at Pasni, Jiawani, Karachi, Rahim Yar Khan, Lahore and Rawalpindi. Though the locations correspond strictly to Pakistan's growing civil air traffic routes, they are ideally placed to boost early warning from the Indian frontier.

It is of interest that in 1969 two Soviet P.35 high-level radar are PRV height-finders were installed, being decommissioned in 1979 owing to maintenance and spares difficulties.

Low Level Radar Systems

AR-1/6 Radar: In 1968-69 six AR-1 Plessey low level radars were installed, followed by 3 of the mobile versions, called AR-15. The range is about 150 km.

MPDR: very major investment was made between 1979-80 in 45 Mobile Pulse Doppler Radars acquired from Siemens of Germany. These are called the SILLACS MPDR 45/E. SILLACS stand for Siemens Low Level Air Defence Control System. They are controlled from six Control and Reporting Centers which are also mobile, and correspond presumably the PAF's six MPDR wings.

Each CRC can control up to 8 radars; the CRC is data-linked to the Sector Operations Center. According to Janes Weapons System 1987-88 edition, there are two fully mobile versions one with 45km range another with 60 km. There is a third version, transportable, with a 90 km range. The first two are single vehicle system with a radar mast extendable to 18 meters and a shelter for the operating crew. The CRC is in two units, a shelter with 4 workstations and two assistant's positions and power generators on trailers.

The MPDR project was the first phase of Project Crystal.

US Low Level Systems
Pakistan has been buying US-low level systems, probably the TPS-63 or 70 or both. One such buy for four low-level air defence radars was identified in a march 1990 list to the US Congress.

It may be noted that Pakistan has the capability to completely overhaul all radars except the Chinese type 514s and possibly the US TPS-43.

[jani]

we need to add some lattest of these man

[fiaz]

we need to add some lattest of these man
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Exactly, we don't have any good sam's which means our fighters would be the ONLY line of defence against indian fighters.

While the indians have multiple defences with their fighters and sams systems.

I hope we get a good sam system that will be effective against their fighters and ballistic missiles SOON...

:PakistanFlag:

[USAM]

PAF have some decent radars and more of them coming soon.



You guys did not include six YL 2C radars that Pakistan got and i think they are the longest range radars with PAF at the moment untill American radars come. YL 2C is a phased array radar with range in excess 200+NM and is transportable.


And Pakistan has atleast 6 of these beasts right now scanning skies.

[000786]

http://www.pakdef.info/pakmilitary/airforce/sam/crotale.html


ISLAMABAD: Opening a new chapter of indigenisation and self-reliance in defence systems, Pakistan Air Force has indigenously overhauled surface-to-air anti-aircraft Crotale missiles and upgraded its range.
The roll-out ceremony of this indigenously overhauled Crotale missiles was held on Thursday at the PAF Base, Chaklala. Air Chief Marshal Pervaiz Mehdi Qureshi, Chief of the Air Staff, was the chief guest on the occasion.
Terming it a landmark, official sources said the PAF has indigenously enhanced the Crotale missile original range of 20 kilometres to 30 kilometres. "The existing Crotale 2000 have been upgraded to Crotale 4000," said an official source.
"The overhauling of Crotale weapon system in the country holds out great promise, and will go a long way in enhancing our indigenous engineering skills," said Chief of Air Staff ACM Qureshi while speaking at the ceremony. "The present government has accorded high priority to self-reliance and indigenisation so as to stand on our feet in all the critical fields."
He said the Crotale overhaul programme is a major step in the direction of achieving self-reliance and indigenisation of weapon systems. In particular, the air chief thanked Mr Massel, the Managing Director of Thompson-CSF Air Systems, for sparing his valuable time and coming all the way from France to attend this ceremony.
In the normal course, had the overhaul of Crotale missiles been done in France, the cost could have touched $ 23 million. "But we have done it less then half of this amount," said a senior official.
Crotale missile system was inducted in the PAF in 1976 to ameliorate the short range air defence. Pakistan Air Force possesses sufficient number of missiles, the source said. With the upgradation of these missiles the enemy aircraft cannot dare to enter Pakistani territory, he added. The system has provided useful service to the PAF for more than two decades and has proved to be an effective deterrence against attacks on vital installations.

When did this upgrade take place, anybody knows the year?

[Avinandan]

What about the Chinese FT2000 Antiradiation missile ? Any latest news on it?
Sinodefence FT2000 antiradiation SAM

[hassan1]

What about the Chinese FT2000 Antiradiation missile ? Any latest news on it?
Sinodefence FT2000 antiradiation SAM

i need the images of all paf radars
specialy ar 1

[ZJoseph]

Could any one plz list the sam's and radar systems which pakistan currently using and what are their future plans. (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/PakistanFlag.gif)

what is the longest range sam of pakistan???

[el nino]

Have to be brutally Honest PAFS Air defense is very poor in deed.

The SAM systems are all 1970s & 1980s era and the radar systems are of the same era.

There is no mention of AWACS induction date or satalite based recon...

We talk about daring a nuclear exchange with india yet there is no defense against their Brahmos cruise missles AGNI missles or UAVs etc.

You cannot have air control over your skies with just JF17 & F16.. CERTAINLY NOT AGAINST a multi layered attacking enemy like india..

1. New long range SAMS like PAC3 USA or FT2000 china

2. 4-6 awacs planes

3. New ground based radar similar to green pine that can track using phassed array at over 300km

4. Satalite cover india has just launched spy satalites for Israel china do this for Pakistan.

[azharsaadat]

I agree with el nino, we have 70-80 stuff at the moment.
Why are we not we going for latest technology. haven't seen any real progress in last 3 yrs.
Like to know what our enemy india has at the moment other then from russia, and can we get the same.
Also what can we get from USA and other European countries.

[leuitenentcolone...]

Pakistan Navy has however separated its paths from the air force & have opted for E2C Hawkeye to be mounted on its P3C Orion aircraft


Some handy options

SURFACED BASED
ARTHUR is an abbreviation for mobile "Artillery Hunting Radar" system developed in Sweden.
48 million Swedish krona per unit

The S1850M is a long range radar for wide area search. The S1850M is produced by BAE Systems Insyte (formerly AMS UK) and Thales and is a modified version of the Thales Nederland SMART-L radar. The S1850M is advertised as being capable of fully automatic detection, track initiation and tracking of up to 1,000 targets at a range of 400 kilometres (250 miles). It is also claimed to be highly capable of detecting stealth targets, and is able to detect and track outer atmosphere objects, making it capable of forming part of a Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence system.

JY-14 Radar System is a medium to long range air defense radar produced and used by the Chinese. It is capable of detecting multiple targets within its range and determine their parameters, tracking them even through surface clutter and ECM jamming. It utilizes a frequency-agile mode with 31 different frequencies, has a large band of ECCM operating parameter frequencies, and uses linear FM compression.This system can simultaneously track up to 100 targets and can feed the data to missile-interceptor batteries. It can track targets flying as high as 75,000 feet (22,900 m) and 186 miles (299 km) in distance.[1]

AIRBORNE
The Airborne Multirole Solid State Active Array Radar (AMSAR)
The AMSAR project began in 1993 in a 50/50 Anglo-French programme with German technical participation.


Dont forget Erieye radar system is already coming

[leuitenentcolone...]

We strictly need to work on FT2000 in big numbers and try for Patriot from US i guess KS-1 Surface-to-air missile from China is a good choice too

[Lightning F57]

Pakistans biigest defence is its airforce, the doctrine does not rely on sams to protect vital assets but fighter planes to do that. Radar systems are quie modern a number have been aquired from the US and China.

[Alkhalid-19]

here look this picture it says all (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/read.gif)
(IMG:http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2203/yesyesmn0ih3.th.png)

[Alkhalid-19]

Have to be brutally Honest PAFS Air defense is very poor in deed.

The SAM systems are all 1970s & 1980s era and the radar systems are of the same era.

There is no mention of AWACS induction date or satalite based recon...

We talk about daring a nuclear exchange with india yet there is no defense against their Brahmos cruise missles AGNI missles or UAVs etc.

You cannot have air control over your skies with just JF17 & F16.. CERTAINLY NOT AGAINST a multi layered attacking enemy like india..

1. New long range SAMS like PAC3 USA or FT2000 china

2. 4-6 awacs planes

3. New ground based radar similar to green pine that can track using phassed array at over 300km

4. Satalite cover india has just launched spy satalites for Israel china do this for Pakistan.

here look this picture it says all (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/read.gif)
(IMG:http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2203/yesyesmn0ih3.th.png)

[Alkhalid-19]

I agree with el nino, we have 70-80 stuff at the moment.
Why are we not we going for latest technology. haven't seen any real progress in last 3 yrs.
Like to know what our enemy india has at the moment other then from russia, and can we get the same.
Also what can we get from USA and other European countries.

you are a Lieutnant and should inform you self before you agree with this Hindus..what he say is Bullshit you think our Army is ideoctily that we have not a effective air-defence..??

here look this picture it says all (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/read.gif)
(IMG:http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2203/yesyesmn0ih3.th.png)

[penguin]

you are a Lieutnant and should inform you self before you agree with this Hindus..what he say is Bullshit you think our Army is ideoctily that we have not a effective air-defence..??

you are a colonel and should set a better example than you do for your junior officers.

[HAROON RASOOL]

General you got Colonel's six.

[Alkhalid-19]

you are a colonel and should set a better example than you do for your junior officers.

yes sir !

[Daredevil]

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=348...c=EUR&s=AIR

MBDA Confirms Air Defense System Sale to Pakistan
By tom kington
Published: 16 Apr 13:54 EDT (09:54 GMT) Print | Email

ROME - European missile house MBDA has officially confirmed the sale of its Spada 2000 air defense system to the Pakistan Air Force.

Speaking here April 16, Chief Executive Antoine Bouvier said the deal for 10 batteries was worth 415 million euros ($656.56 million) over five years, adding that the contract was signed last August and put into force in February.

The Spada 2000, produced by the Italian-controlled part of the firm, MBDA Italia, and used by Italy and Spain, includes a 60-kilometer-range radar and two firing sections, each containing two missile launchers with six Aspide 2000 missiles each. The missiles have an intercept range of more than 20 kilometers.

"This is a wonderful achievement," Bouvier said of the Pakistan deal. "It was a tough fight."

Industrial sources have told Defense News that the Spada system defeated competition from Raytheon, Diehl BGT and Saab.

MBDA Italia represents the 25 percent stake held in MBDA by Italy's Finmeccanica group.

A series of firing tests that formed part of the evaluation program with the Pakistan Air Force will be followed soon by further firing tests for qualification purposes, Bouvier said. He hopes the deal may be expanded in the future.

Although the deal officially fell under the responsibility of MBDA as a whole, Bouvier said "strong support" was provided by the Italian government and Finmeccanica. The Italian Air Force assisted with pre-contract firing tests in Pakistan, he added.

The export license for the deal was processed in Italy and helped push MBDA Italia to the top of Italy's chart of defense firms ranked by exports for 2007 - calculated on the basis of export licenses issued - with an 18.5 percent share of exports worth 443 million euros.

[Magnus]

Ly-60
DK-9 (Airforce)