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Is The Mig-21/f-7 Still A Worthy Fighter
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 01:11 PM
Why dont the MOD do anything about this problem? Every time we have a decent topic some Indian always come here and starts bashing and we all get off topic.
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 03:33 PM
if any 1 dares to flame this thread they'll get rassed this is Fact not wishful thinking.
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Posted 24 January 2005 - 06:15 PM
yea maverikky now shut the hell up!
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 06:04 PM
Hi everybody,
People like maverickkiy and rahul really destroy the image of their country and people.
India is a huge country land wise and has never been able too enter Pakistan during wars,instead our Pakistani forces LITTERALY routed those indians.
Pakistan who spends ultra low budget has acheived much better then india(im talking quality wis not qunatity wise).1,Nuclear weapons:SOON israel will be in the deadly nuclear range of PAKISTAN. 2,JF-17:It is much more cheaper and is far more superior then the indian LIGHT COMBAT ASS(LCA). 3,Al-Khalid:Al-Khalid is FAR FAR FAR superior then indian unsucessful,EXTREMELY heavy arjun.
FACT ON ARJUN:
the most difficult task for arjun is too cross a BRIDGE!.
People like maverickkiy and rahul really destroy the image of their country and people.
India is a huge country land wise and has never been able too enter Pakistan during wars,instead our Pakistani forces LITTERALY routed those indians.
Pakistan who spends ultra low budget has acheived much better then india(im talking quality wis not qunatity wise).1,Nuclear weapons:SOON israel will be in the deadly nuclear range of PAKISTAN. 2,JF-17:It is much more cheaper and is far more superior then the indian LIGHT COMBAT ASS(LCA). 3,Al-Khalid:Al-Khalid is FAR FAR FAR superior then indian unsucessful,EXTREMELY heavy arjun.
FACT ON ARJUN:
the most difficult task for arjun is too cross a BRIDGE!.
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 08:11 PM
If we replace our F-7 fleet with the JF-17, wouldnt be a good idea to sell them to a third world country and make profit and use that profit to buy another A/C?
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 10:42 PM
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I AM REALLY SORRY IF I HAVE HURT THE FEELINGS OF PAKISTANIS IN THEIR FORUM, AS PERSONALLY I DO NOT HOLD ANY GRUDGE AGAINST ANYBODY. BUT I SINCERELY THINK THAT MODERATORS SHOULD TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY TOO. JUST LOOK AROUND, THIS THREAD SUPPOSIBLY BE DISCUSSING DETAILS AND MIG AND F-7, BUT WHATS GOING ON HERE. TO ALL THE PEOPLE FOR THE RECORD PLEASE NOTICE THAT I DID NOT START THIS BASHING GAME, ALL I WAS DOING WAS POSTING A REPLY AND THE TALK JUST ESCALATED, BUT I NEVER FOR ONCE DID START A CONVERSATION TO DEFAME OR RIDICULE ANYBODY LET ALONE A PAKISTANI...
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I AM REALLY SORRY IF I HAVE HURT THE FEELINGS OF PAKISTANIS IN THEIR FORUM, AS PERSONALLY I DO NOT HOLD ANY GRUDGE AGAINST ANYBODY. BUT I SINCERELY THINK THAT MODERATORS SHOULD TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY TOO. JUST LOOK AROUND, THIS THREAD SUPPOSIBLY BE DISCUSSING DETAILS AND MIG AND F-7, BUT WHATS GOING ON HERE. TO ALL THE PEOPLE FOR THE RECORD PLEASE NOTICE THAT I DID NOT START THIS BASHING GAME, ALL I WAS DOING WAS POSTING A REPLY AND THE TALK JUST ESCALATED, BUT I NEVER FOR ONCE DID START A CONVERSATION TO DEFAME OR RIDICULE ANYBODY LET ALONE A PAKISTANI...
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 05:51 AM
QUOTE(lil Paki @ Jan 26 2005, 08:11 PM)
If we replace our F-7 fleet with the JF-17, wouldnt be a good idea to sell them to a third world country and make profit and use that profit to buy another A/C?
Who want to buy it? Even african countries will ask for something better
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Posted 27 January 2005 - 04:22 PM
QUOTE(deltared075 @ Jan 27 2005, 07:51 AM)
Who want to buy it? Even african countries will ask for something better
Well if we announce to them that we are selling them maybe we will find a customer.
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Posted 28 January 2005 - 05:51 AM
QUOTE(lil Paki @ Jan 27 2005, 04:22 PM)
Well if we announce to them that we are selling them maybe we will find a customer.
African countries might wana buy them.no pessimistic assumptions without trying.
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Posted 29 January 2005 - 02:08 PM
Hi everybody,
PAF should replace alll the F-7`s with JF-17 except the F-7PG`s because they are valuable
PAF should replace alll the F-7`s with JF-17 except the F-7PG`s because they are valuable
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Posted 06 February 2005 - 06:46 AM
F-7P would end being sold as spares to countries like Sri Lanka & Bangladesh as they can't afford anything better.
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:01 AM
The F-7PG is still an effective aircraft. It is cheap, easy to maintain, reliable, has a good servicability rate. You also have to remember the PAF has extensive experience with the type and also its pilots have thousands of hours flying the F-7.
Couple this with the HMS and IF the F-7 is able to get close, it can really give a hard time to 4th gen fighters.
Couple this with the HMS and IF the F-7 is able to get close, it can really give a hard time to 4th gen fighters.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:53 AM
^^ My only issue with F-7PGs is it's limited endurance in Air Combat. The fuel capacity on the F-7Ps/PGs, is atrociously low for any effective and sustained CAP missions. IFR capability is for any fighter is essential, in this day and age, however the fighter itself needs sufficient fuel capacity and an engine which is high on performance and low on fuel consumption.
This is, in my personal view, one of the crucial things to focus on, in the JF-17 Thunders. The RD-93 engines are good enough to start with, however I really do hope that the WS-13 Taishan engines have the capability to deliver high performance and be fuel efficient. As it is a known fact that the engine is the heart of any fighter-jet's development. Without it, there is no use in going ahead with the development of an combat aircraft.
This is, in my personal view, one of the crucial things to focus on, in the JF-17 Thunders. The RD-93 engines are good enough to start with, however I really do hope that the WS-13 Taishan engines have the capability to deliver high performance and be fuel efficient. As it is a known fact that the engine is the heart of any fighter-jet's development. Without it, there is no use in going ahead with the development of an combat aircraft.
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Dizasta, on 30 April 2012 - 07:53 AM, said:
^^ My only issue with F-7PGs is it's limited endurance in Air Combat. The fuel capacity on the F-7Ps/PGs, is atrociously low for any effective and sustained CAP missions. IFR capability is for any fighter is essential, in this day and age, however the fighter itself needs sufficient fuel capacity and an engine which is high on performance and low on fuel consumption.
This is, in my personal view, one of the crucial things to focus on, in the JF-17 Thunders. The RD-93 engines are good enough to start with, however I really do hope that the WS-13 Taishan engines have the capability to deliver high performance and be fuel efficient. As it is a known fact that the engine is the heart of any fighter-jet's development. Without it, there is no use in going ahead with the development of an combat aircraft.
This is, in my personal view, one of the crucial things to focus on, in the JF-17 Thunders. The RD-93 engines are good enough to start with, however I really do hope that the WS-13 Taishan engines have the capability to deliver high performance and be fuel efficient. As it is a known fact that the engine is the heart of any fighter-jet's development. Without it, there is no use in going ahead with the development of an combat aircraft.
With a flying endurance of hardly 30 mins(stats from kargil war), the F-7 P/PG makes a point defence fighter only. it has limited A2G capability due to very limited payload capacity. 5 pylons is out dated phenomenon of 60-70's and its agility is less of a threat to BVR capable enemy aircrafts.
so the only value it has is of an interceptor or an alert fighter.
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