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[Slayer]

you dont have to agree with something to help humanity.

I also do consider this quake to be punishment, and a special sign. This is the only desaster which has shaken up the whole world. All continents are involved. And it devestated the areas well known for prostitution etc.

However this does not mean that we should not help.

If it was a punishment or not only God knows and its between God and man. We as humans have the obligation to help.

The holy prophet s.a.s. said some curse upon meccans and as a result there was femine and hunger in mecca. Thereupon abu sufian came to holy prophet s.a.s. and asked for help. He helped and prayed and the drought went away.

So even animosity of worst kind, all the sins of meccans and wars against muslims etc. were no hindrence for the prophet s.a.s. to pray for them and to help them.

Whatever be the cause of the quake, nature or punishment, humanity come first and foremost.

[syed alizaidi]

Are the daily killings of palestinians and other things they have to go thru on a daily basis a punishment from Allah? Was the attack on Iraq a punishment and wrath of God?  

[Jimmy Jimmy]

Arabs r Ba5rads really
Atleast they should think about those Childrens(always Innocent) who r Sleeping in Open Without shelter But with the Deadly Cold winds Some of them have lost their Parents THey r sleeping hungry   
KSA has Provided 30mn USD

[java]

no pak was NOT, see java's post above!

I doubt that it was uae either. probably it was someone from europe.

NOpe !!!  they are from UAE Im very sure about this ( I just back from Medan ) they sending Police, Doctor, SAR unit etc just adays after Tsunami happen, and they are the first coutry who coming to our country when another country busy with Thailand..

[Asim Aquil]

Skim thru these:

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/kuwait/?id=5236

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/kuwait/?id=11330

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/uae/?id=12197

Then read up on their aid to the Tsunami Victims here: (Right from Arabic Media!)

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/uae/?id=12349

Do you think Arabs have evolved out of this mindset of thinking things solely on terms of religion? And their refusal to help is more based on the fact that these are "those Asians"? as the last link suggests in one paragraph?

70Mn vs 3300 $Mn. You be the judge... Most of the people dead are probably Muslims. Most of the people saving them are Atheists or Christians. The last link's last paragraph sums it up nicely.

I'm glad Pakistanis are trying day in and day out to raise funds for the victims with whatever little we have.

[Saqr]

I donated 100 dollars from my own money for the relief effort in those areas.

Anyways, my local mosque is raising money for the relief effort.

[Jimmy Jimmy]

35000 Children Alone in Indonesia had lost there parents   
Man i got to Do some thing??
What can i do i dont Earn Money???
How can i help
Also Div Falcon is the Money 100$ Earned by u Urself or ur Father???

[avant-garde]

Skim thru these:

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/kuwait/?id=5236

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/kuwait/?id=11330

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/uae/?id=12197

Then read up on their aid to the Tsunami Victims here: (Right from Arabic Media!)

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/uae/?id=12349

Do you think Arabs have evolved out of this mindset of thinking things solely on terms of religion? And their refusal to help is more based on the fact that these are "those Asians"? as the last link suggests in one paragraph?

70Mn vs 3300 $Mn. You be the judge... Most of the people dead are probably Muslims. Most of the people saving them are Atheists or Christians. The last link's last paragraph sums it up nicely.

I'm glad Pakistanis are trying day in and day out to raise funds for the victims with whatever little we have.

Well.. i think its commendable that the Arab world's own media has questioned their nation's commitments towards the relief effort. While the donations made reflect the mindsets of their Sheikhs and Ameers, its the local people who have (attempted to) criticise the ruling elite's decision. I would say the arab people need to be viewed with a different eye. They aint democracies any way.

[aziqbal]

go china go

[avant-garde]

Alright, i have a good find.

It seems that donations from Muslim and Arab nations are quite "fair" - not that great, but more than they could afford - Nevertheless not bad either.

Theyre up there with the more richer countries, when compared with %GDP and stuff. Id say the donations were "just about right".

Here they are:

Pledged amounts as percentages of GDP

The table below examines the amounts pledged for humanitarian efforts in light of rough national economic power, which is arguably a more useful measures. There are a number of caveats that should be kept in mind while reading the table:

   1. The figures do not include the cost of operating military resources deployed to provide aid, and it is unclear how this should be quantified. While some would argue that military resources are already paid for and that the relief effort can be regarded as a logistics training exercise, the increased operational costs are an unbudgeted expenditure. Others would argue that the military resources provide the only infrastructure that will deliver aid in a timely manner to save lives to the hardest hit and neediest areas, and without this quickly deployable infrastructure the other contributions, no matter how large would be useless or arrive too late.
   2. Use of Gross Domestic Product (or Gross National Product) should be treated with caution as this does not accurately measure a country's ability to provide aid. Similarly, whether to use 'nominal' or 'real' GNP/GDPs can be argued. Some GDP/GNP figures are also out of date e.g. for the year 2002, or even 2001, so comparisons between countries may not be for the same time period. A better comparison might be used by examining Purchasing Power Parity-adjusted GDP/GNP figures (as used in the CIA factbook).
   3. "Aid" is an ambiguous term that may cover a wide variety of methods, such as 'soft' loans or 'tied aid', where the money has to be spent buying goods ands services from the donating country. The terms by which the aid is accepted play a large role in determining how useful it is.
   4. This is aid for one particular disaster. Without knowing how much aid the various countries and their people donate to other disasters, one cannot draw conclusions on their overall level of generosity.
   5. The numbers below are the pledged contributions. Arguably, only funds that are actually transferred should be counted. For example, after the Bam earthquake in December 2003, the Iranian government received only USD 17.5 million of the USD one billion that was promised. [46] (http://abcnews.go.co...Story?id=388438)

With all the caveats in mind, the following table lists some countries in order of nominal aid donated divided by GDP.


Country Aid
(US$ millions) GDP (2003 or earlier)
(US$ billions) % of GDP
Australia 914 518.4 0.18
Qatar 25 17.47 0.14
Norway 245 221.6 0.11
Saudi Arabia 97.5 188.5 0.052
Sweden 140 300.8 0.047
Germany 992 2400 0.042
Denmark 87.5 212.4 0.041
Republic of China (Taiwan) 110 293.2   0.038
Hong Kong 57.5 158.6 0.036
United Arab Emirates 25 70.96 0.035
Kuwait 10 35.37 0.028
Canada 163 834.4 0.020
Singapore 15 91.34 0.016
United Kingdom 241 1795 0.013
Japan 500 4326 0.012
Italy 125 1466 0.0085
Spain 69 836.1 0.0083
United States 733 10880 0.0067
China 63 1410 0.0045
India 23 599 0.0038
France 57 1748 0.0033

Pledged amounts on a per capita basis

Another way of looking at the figures.


Country Aid
(US$ millions) Population (July 2004 or earlier)
per capita (US$)
Norway 245 4,574,560 53.56
Australia 914 19,913,144 45.90
Denmark 87.5 5,413,392 16.16
Sweden 140 8,986,400 15.58
Germany 992 82,424,609 12.04
Qatar 10 840,290 11.90
Hong Kong 57.5 6,855,125 8.39
Canada 163 32,507,874 5.01
Republic of China (Taiwan) 110 22,191,087 (July 2000) 4.96
United Kingdom 241 60,270,708 4.00
Japan 500 127,333,002 3.93
Singapore 15 4,353,893 3.45
United States 733 293,027,571 2.50
Italy 125 58,057,477 2.15
Spain 69 40,280,780 1.71
Saudi Arabia 30 25,795,938 1.16
France 57 60,424,213 .94
United Arab Emirates 2 2,523,915 .79
Kuwait 1.7 2,257,549 .75
China 63 1,298,847,624 .05
India 23 1,065,070,607 .02

[avant-garde]

  That came out kinda messed.

Anyone know how to post tables here?

[asal-main]

saudis had a telethon , raised like a hundred million dollars. It was on yahoo news yesterday. Give credit where its due.

however  i think this had to do with the western media attention on saudia arabia post 9-11, because the gulf oil arabs usually just yawn looking at the poverty in sudan, somalia, ethiopia yemen all of which are their neighbors. The money they throw away in personal jets, fully golden, diamond studded bathrooms, palaces, ultra luxurious vacations, gambling, etc comes into the billions of dollars annually.

[FASAL XJ]

How can i help

make a petrol bomb, light it & dont throw it. on a more serious note, try getting people to sponsor u for a marathon or something, the money u raise through the marathon should b sent to a charitable relief organisation currently sending aid to the victims of the tusnami disaster.

[Jimmy Jimmy]

make a petrol bomb, light it & dont throw it. on a more serious note, try getting people to sponsor u for a marathon or something, the money u raise through the marathon should b sent to a charitable relief organisation currently sending aid to the victims of the tusnami disaster.

LOl a Suicide for collection of Charity THats sick
Is this the Only way we raise Charity in UK??

[DarkAngel]

LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Following is a list of monetary contributions pledged by governments and the World Bank to help Indian Ocean nations hit by the December 26 earthquake and tsunami, compiled from reports by Reuters bureaus and U.N. agencies. (Private donations are in parentheses where available)

(in millions of U.S. dollars)

African Union 0.10

Algeria 2.00

Australia 815.00

Austria 10.88 (13.60)

Bahrain 2.00

Belgium 16.32

Britain 95.00 (146.00)

Bulgaria 0.14

Canada 80.00

China 60.42

Cyprus 0.37

Czech Republic 0.668 (2.68)

Denmark 76.83

EU 529.00

Finland 15.88 (21.90)

France 64.57 (49.00)

Germany 680 (200.00)

Greece 1.34 (14.70)

Hungary 1.20

India 25.00

Ireland 13.62 (18.20)

Italy 95.00

Japan 500.00

Kuwait 10.00

Libya 2.00

Luxembourg 6.80

Netherlands 34.00

New Zealand 3.60

North Korea 0.15

Norway 181.90

Poland 1.00 (1.30)

Portugal 10.88 (2.72)

Qatar 25.00

Saudi Arabia 30.00

Singapore 23.10

Slovakia 0.23

Slovenia 0.24

South Korea 50.00

Spain 68.02

Sweden 80.00

Switzerland 23.81 (39.24)

Taiwan 50.25

Turkey 1.25

UAE 20.00

USA 350.00

Venezuela 2.00

World Bank 250.00

Total: 4,611.618 (765.73)


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the pity is there is no news about pakistans aid, wheras paakistan has been sending aid every 48 hours, set up a 50 bed hospital and sent engineering teams.
Furthermore as some of the local muslim groups are setting up aid camps and law enforcement sstems they are being accused of terrorist activity against the western forces while a large number of the western NGOs themselves are missionary. sad state of affairs in the media.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/...s.ap/index.html

and at the end id like to say the anti arab sentiment is pathetic. apne aap ko dekha hai tum logon ne? u expect equality and are not preparede to give it. they are wrongwith their racism , but so are you. and so long as this divison remains we will all suffer. the arab is no greater than the ajmi, but neither is the ajmi greater than the arab. and perhaps u underetimate another factor. while westerners help, they also brand u on the face telling u they have helped u, which truth be told i cannot say is wrong, but when muslims  ( atleast those who really are muslims by heart too) help, THEY DONT GO ABOUT WAVING A FLAG.

also i ask u what really matters, how much have YOU done in the effort?

"Ïnama al usri yusra"
"Verily in hardship there is ease" ( The Quran )

[DarkAngel]

and of all of those donations the one that touched my heart the most was by the african union, it may be the smallest, but with what they are going through, it is truly admirable. dnt be foled by indias donations though, that money went onto their own coast.

[Indonesiana]

NOpe !!!  they are from UAE Im very sure about this ( I just back from Medan ) they sending Police, Doctor, SAR unit etc just adays after Tsunami happen, and they are the first coutry who coming to our country when another country busy with Thailand..

Salaam, Java

Even Jordania sent its medical team to Aceh, I saw them in MetroTV.

P.S. Are you volunteer? Or just "humanitarian tourist"? No hard feeling please...

[Nazi hindu terrorist]

200 million rupees is less than 4 million US$.  So don't think it's a lot.

What the US and the West initially contributed does not mean anything, vs what they are actually paying today. The West has been EXTREMELY generous.

I have Indian Muslim relatives (luckily nobody was hurt in this disaster), so do I donate to a Muslim charity? If I donate to a Muslim group, sometime soon I will receive a visit from the police. So I decided to donate to the Prime Minister's Relief Fund.

I suggest all Indian Muslims to donate to some non-Islamic NGO, since donations to Muslim groups may put you in trouble later. It is called "charity" today, tomorrow it may be called "financial support to fundamentalist groups", and next step will be called "Al-Quaida financier".