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[colorwolf2000]

If the war between china and india,india will be.........., china will be .....
Pakistan will be ..............., the world will be.............
can u imagine that? :cat

[shamayel]

India will be..........Toast!
China will be.............victorious!
Pakistan will be.........happy!


          

[colorwolf2000]

that is great!!!!!!!!
u are a funny guy!!!!! :cat

[Bazigaar]

the world will be.............changing their map...pak/china more bigger area...

[Kabul Hitman]

India will be.....Kentucy Fried Indians
China will be...... a little bruised but Victorious
Pakistan will be....Partying!
World will be,,,,,a better place  

[Wu Lei]

india will be   ---> :XNuke
china will be  ---> :ermm
pak will be    --->
world will be --->  

[PakistanSSG]

Dragon VS Monkey.

China has advantage in number and it also has an indian hating strategic ally, Pakistan. China, like the indians have Russian technology available to them the only difference is.... they dont crash em too often.


If you ask me, its a very unfair scenario as Pakistan will do everything in order to see india in agony.
Then again, for the one and a half year that I've been on this forum I always said this when a topic like this one came up; Pakistan continues to be a pain in indias butt, so how the hell will india compete with China, the sole nation that can challenge US. Now thats significant.

[PS:Annonymous]

Kabul Hitman, on Nov 18 2002, 09:02 AM, said:

India will be.....Kentucy Fried Indians
China will be...... a little bruised but Victorious
Pakistan will be....Partying!
World will be,,,,,a better place  

                       Just one thing..

World will be MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER PLACE WITHOUT INDIA AND PEACEFULL TOO

[rahul0072002]

**China has advantage in number and it also has an indian hating strategic ally, Pakistan. China, like the indians have Russian technology available to them the only difference is.... they dont crash em too often.**

Correction!  If you didn't know, China's press is one of the world's most "NON-free" press in the world.  Nobody know how many planes China crashed, nor will ever know.  So don't come to your own conclusions.  God knows how many thousands outdated Mig-19's and 15's they have, not to mention the tremendous maintenance costs.  But still, I believe that China will prevail over India in a conflict, but not without damage to itself.  But hey, after all, what are nukes for?? :ermm

[PhrozenFlame]

once n00ks have been used..what we can do is take kashmir, punjab, Gujrat I guess or Rajistan whatever, while our Bengali freinds can have Assam ???

[rajeev]

If it comes down to the complete destruction of India in an utopian scenario with Pakistan attacking on the west and China on the west I am sure it will turn into a world war with Russia and America jumping in. If it is only China attacking India I think it will be very much localised and not throughout the border. If in a very very utopian scenario China attacks India and tries to destroy it, I think India will take down China with its full nukes and get itself fully destroyed. But I dont think such scenarios are going to happen at all and we can all day dream about it. China is a very responsible country compared to theocratic regimes in India's western border and beyond.

[UnitedDiversity]

When the war starts...

Indians will be --> doing what they do best, drop their guns and run

Chinese will be --> running the Indians over with their tanks

Pakstanis will be --> getting ready for a huuuuuuge party

The World will be --> reprinting their maps with India in a different colour


When the war is over

Indians will be --> under the Chinese tanks

Chinese will be --> running the Indians over even more

Pakstanis will be --> enjoying their huuuuuuuuge party

The world will be --> well... lets jest say that there will be one less *BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP* government on the planet Earth...

[lifeisfun]

huh alwayz wet dreams! any decent chinese defense analyst will not acknowledge this scenario in near future!

if u want u can start 'n' number of scenarios, like China VS Canada, China VS Pakistan, China VS rest of world or even China VS rest of universe. call it what u want...nothing's gonna change on yar "thotful" remarks....

thanks for yar wonderful research and postings

[PakistanSSG]

"But still, I believe that China will prevail over India in a conflict, but not without damage to itself. But hey, after all, what are nukes for??"

Now thats what I call, 'being rational'

However, lets leave the nukes out of this. These weapons would only be used if it were the last option, like if the PLA gets to New Delhi.
If india can put up a fight, it wouldnt be for too long as fighting such a big enemy is going to cost india a fortune, same for China.  But China is economically more stronger than india and would survive longer.
Heres my equation, China in a war with india= China+india which implies that the war will end in (million deaths) SQUARED, depending on magnitude of the war.

[Wu Lei]

nuke is get somewhere Kentucy Fried  

[Kabul Hitman]

PakistanSSG, on Nov 19 2002, 07:31 PM, said:

Dragon VS Monkey.

                        (w00t)  (w00t)  (w00t)        (w00t)  (w00t)

[PhrozenFlame]

if n00ks have been used..for the SECOND time in the known histroy of the EARTH...the World Population will fall back to 4-5 Billion

[UnitedDiversity]

PakistanSSG, on Nov 20 2002, 06:06 AM, said:

"But still, I believe that China will prevail over India in a conflict, but not without damage to itself. But hey, after all, what are nukes for??"

Now thats what I call, 'being rational'

However, lets leave the nukes out of this. These weapons would only be used if it were the last option, like if the PLA gets to New Delhi.
If india can put up a fight, it wouldnt be for too long as fighting such a big enemy is going to cost india a fortune, same for China.  But China is economically more stronger than india and would survive longer.
Heres my equation, China in a war with india= China+india which implies that the war will end in (million deaths) SQUARED, depending on magnitude of the war.

                       so you are one of those people who thinks that India is going to win a war aginest China...

well... enjoy...

[rahul0072002]

**Now thats what I call, 'being rational'**

It is not a matter of being rational, it is a matter of survival.  Doesen't Pakistan have a first-strike nuke policy against India?  Same situation with India and China.  On the other hand, I am also againt the use of nukes in a war, unless India is in a dire situation where its survival is threatened.

[surya]

"Pakstanis will be --> enjoying their huuuuuuuuge party"

you really think so.. but i wonder where????
a)it will party in india:not possible india will be high radiation zone
b)it will party in china: not possible china will be high radiation zone
c)Pakistan will party in Pakistan: again not possible.. Pakistan  ceases to exist

China thought it was smart helping Pakistan but what china did not realize was that in the eyes of an indian
we see the countries surrounding us as china and little china...And india has for long now been arming itself
for china !!! little china isnt even in our radar anymore..

In 1962 pak did not interfere because china pak friendship wasnt what it is now. But now if china were to attack india
may be india will fire 50 nuclear agni's at china..but it will make sure it has a few prithvi's for Pakistan as well ... just in case
india goes down Pakistan ceases to exist!!!!!!!that way without Pakistan existing anymore who can take kashmir away.

God Bless America

[Rostam]

There would never be a large scale engagement between the two countries given the Himlayas.  You would see skirmishes and the like, but no large scale tank battles that we usu. witness in Indo-Pak wars.

The primary theatres of battle will involve their navies and air forces.  The Indian Navy could defeat the Chinese Navy, but with the aid of the Chinese Air Force, the Indian Navy could be neutralized.  The Chinese have more than enough a/c to flood Indian airspace and ground the IAF.

[UnitedDiversity]

next someone start a topic like this... they should add "NOOOOOOOOOO NUKES INVOLVED"

we are having a discussion here... involving the nukes jest takes away all the fun...

[PakistanSSG]

"so you are one of those people who thinks that India is going to win a war aginest China...

well... enjoy..."



Dont talk trash, how can you determine from my post that I of all the people would say that india would win. SO THINK before you write. Any old member here knows I have always rooted for China.
Read my first post in this topic. I have always supported China, and DUH! China will kick indian ass, however there will be damage to both sides, lesser to China ofcourse.

[UnitedDiversity]

any OLD members???????????????????? how old?????????????????? like having 2000 posts in the old PAK D forum old??????????????? well... dat's me

[PS:Annonymous]

I am an Old member..i had 2700 Posts on Ezboard forum. i am here on this forum for one years and so

[harpy1]

China HAS LESS THAN 4 DIVs in tibet area. It has 4-6 air bases mostly Mig 19s and recon aircraft. Numbers less than 200 TODAY.

The huge natural buffer of the HIMLAYERS maker it  impossible to launch major armoured thrust into india EVER.

There will never be a major war BETWEEN these two giant countries.

Even India only deploys 8 out of 35 divs IN northern border. THE THREAT IS SO MINIMAL at present.  

IF china decided it wanted to invade it the logistics, supply line, airbases, depots and barracks needed would be so vast in number it would take a whole year to construct.

  China to invade India would require over 1000 fighters in J10 SU27/SU30 & JH7 CLASS. OVER 1.5 MILLION troops. A helicopter and transport fleet of over 300. Awacs, sams, cruise missles.

The Navy that china wud need 30 modern subs and 40+ destroyers and frigates. at leasst a dozen supply ships.

  They have made huge progress BUT even China won,t have the above for another decade.

  EVEN THEN ITS TOUCH AND GO has to success of invasion.......

  India has the largest professional army in the world 1 million strong

  biggest navy in the indian ocean

  Air force of over 750 combat planes including su30, mig 29 mirage 2000.

S300 ABM, satalites and green pine radar.

Huge strategic depth.

ONLY USA could realisticly invade india and go all the way to delhi....

NO ONE ELSE ON EARTH CAN DO IT.

Remember we are talking gulf stle conventional conflict......

[PakistanSSG]

My friend, if a 10 man assault team of Mujahideen can get through to india, what will stop an army like Chinas? And what do you mean by "Largest Professional Army in the world"? So that means india's army is more professional compared to Chinas and yeah, and would you kindly tell me WHO did WHAT to WHOM in 1962?
Can you please define "huge strategic depth"?
And if the indian army is 1 MILLION strong as you say, how in the world have the mujahideen today, been able to breach through your 'professional' force and caused havoc in your temple?

[lifeisfun]

dude if u still wanna speak abt 1962 (some 30 year story) so what happened in 1971?? didnt u guys do the same?? "surrenderd"..so u dont consider pak army as professional??

[halfemtysoul]

is it just me or does that surya guy have an israeli type of image of his mother india, wake up and smell the coffee kid theres no way in hell, u morons would ever be as good as the israelis, hahaha being surrounded hahaha bla bla bla good one, cause in indias case the oposition isnt carrying rocks morons haha.

[halfemtysoul]

no we lost 71 becuase of our weakness, we never said we were way better then india, but u guys dunno why for some reason think u can take out china i mean cmon get real the us right now takes china as a threat now u guys cant honestly tell me ure better then the US??

ps
indian army....professionalism.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA ......how many soldiers did u guys loose on that 10 month picknick o wait yea bout 200 haha and we didnt even shoot at em haha!!

[lifeisfun]

halfemtysoul, on Nov 24 2002, 04:05 PM, said:

no we lost 71 becuase of our weakness, we never said we were way better then india, but u guys dunno why for some reason think u can take out china i mean cmon get real the us right now takes china as a threat now u guys cant honestly tell me ure better then the US??

                       did i say anthing abt indians better than china, usa , pak...all i said was abt professonalism...if u think bcoz of 1962 we'r not professionals then it holds for u coz of 1971.

[platinum786]

my two cents...........

(1) China with there superior sodliers and tanks (in numbers and tanks) will have some resistance at the border. they will soon crush it and steam into india.

(2) Indian army will engage China in a gurreilla style war fighting in cities etc. Both sides will take large loses and the civillian cost will be high.

(3) PLAAF will wipe out IAF with relative ease. tehy have better tech and in more numbers. it's like current PAF V iAF scenario.

(4) Chinese navy will advance and engage IN near Korea etc. They will have a long battle which india will eentually lose after inflicting notable losses on Chinese navy.

(5) feeling all is lost India will launch nooks at China, however since tehy have anti missile capability they will take care of it (ft2000 ask usmanali).

the rest..............
USA- will talk about restraint etc, usual retoric, won't intervene. the cost is too much. India is only a pawn, they will get other pawns.

Russia- china is big time ally of them they wil have same stance as USA.

[harpy1]

Listen guys

Firstly you lot are not chinease your pakistanis or Indians. SO FORGET WAT China can do. Lets talk abouit wat Pakistan can or can,t do.

Second strategic depth means a huge land mass. great mountains, rivers, widespread economic infrastructure. More importantly huge population.

To make it dehli and takeover india is too big a job for china.

China can defend its borders, fight border wars. It does not have the attacking capability to invade india. You would need military like that assembled  against iraq to acheive this. ONLY USA. can do this.

As for mujahadin invading india. If your idea of a few turban heads wealding ak47S HIDING in the hills and mountains and firing sniper shots is your idea of military success, WELL GOOD FOR YOU PAKISTANIS.

I suppose on that basis Osma bin laden has beaten the USA has they haven,t found him yet.

Very impressive military planning "hiding in mountains.". Yep the PAK military really showed what they can do in Kargil.. lol lol

[platinum786]

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. If your idea of a few turban heads wealding ak47S

don't diss sikh harpy.

if you want to talk about pak/india start another topic, we are talking about china and india. the topic makes it very clear.

[lifeisfun]

in one word impossible and destructive to both sides!

[PakistanSSG]

"As for mujahadin invading india. If your idea of a few turban heads wealding ak47S HIDING in the hills and mountains and firing sniper shots is your idea of military success, WELL GOOD FOR YOU PAKISTANIS."



Call them whatever you want but these rinky dink fighters are the ones kicking your ugly hairy asses in IOK and your bloody excuse for soldiers BSF cant do jack $hit to stop em, thats overkill for you guys, you cant even stop them from infiltrating. Where Does your professionalism and quantity come in after 6 civilians have been killed in the current standoff? And why cant your professionalism stop the sniper shots from Mujahideen that you wined about? . Furthermore your NSG take 30 hours to arrive to 'neutralize' a handful of Mujahideen who get holed up in temples.  I condemn the killing of any indian civilian, however I dont have sympathy for a BSF jawan lost, God is simply punishing them for the war crimes they commit against innocent Kashmiris.

"Second strategic depth means a huge land mass. great mountains, rivers, widespread economic infrastructure. More importantly huge population. "

From your other post you said that india has huge strategic depth which you have defined above. So you admit that China can get through and your strategic depth will counter them? And if not, let me tell you that China ALSO has your idea of strategic depth.
What about 1971? We lost, no Pakistani has ever denied.
What about 1965? KICK@SS JOB DONE BY OUR FORCES.

[platinum786]

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impossible and destructive to both sides!

thats 6 words mate.

and if you mean by immpossible that it won't (in the fore seeable) happen i agree.
destructive to all concerned, you bet!!

[MoThSmOkE]

You guys are forgetting the himalayas. They are a great buffer zone between India and China.

How would China roll in their tanks into India?

Would it be that easy for India to launch Agnis over the Himalayas?

Airpower would be vital, with small concentration of mechanized infantry attacking vital strategic locations.

At the end of the day, it would be China anyways.

[UnitedDiversity]

harpy1, on Nov 24 2002, 05:00 PM, said:

China can defend its borders, fight border wars. It does not have the attacking capability to invade india. You would need military like that assembled  against iraq to acheive this. ONLY USA. can do this.

                       on what bases do you say that?

troops number?

quility?

history?

economy?

citizen support?


well... if you thought of any of those 5 point in India's favor... you are wrong...

[lifeisfun]

it's not in indias favor neither it's in favor chinese! so this is a BS topic!