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[aamirzs]

Egyptian President Mohammad Mursi announced on Saturday the “definitive” cutting of ties with the regime of President Bashar al-Assad and called for imposing a no-fly zone over the warn-torn country.

Egypt “decided today to definitively break off relations with the current regime in Syria, to close that regime's embassy in Cairo and to recall Egypt's charge d'affaires,” President Mursi said at a rally in Cairo on Saturday.

The “Support for Syria” rally was organized in Cairo and came a day after the Muslim Brotherhood denounced Hezbollah’s military intervention in Syria and backed calls for Jihad (holy war) there.

Sunni Muslim clerics had gathered in Cairo early this week urging the Muslim youth to go and fight in Syria against the Shiite Hezbollah and Iran.

In his speech on Saturday, Mursi also urged world powers not to hesitate to enforce a no-fly zone over Syria.

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[platinum786]

Rightfully so. Eygpt, KSA and Turkey have the military might to step in and enforce one themselves. They should be looking to do so. Muslims cannot complain about others interfering and then gaining benefit from our conflicts, when we ourselves will not do so. Iran, Hizbollah have openly waged wars against Sunnis of Syria. Even shia from Iraq who follow the Ayatollahs commands are going there to fight along the Alawite kuffar. Sunni Muslims should urge their NATIONS to intervene, not just individuals or jihadi groups. I read leading clerics of Eygpt urging Arab men to go and fight alongside the sunni's of Syria, they should instead urge their governments to do so.

[blueazure]

obama announces military aid to syrian rebels

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[Hulegu]

platinum786, on 16 June 2013 - 07:04 AM, said:

Rightfully so. Eygpt, KSA and Turkey have the military might to step in and enforce one themselves. They should be looking to do so. Muslims cannot complain about others interfering and then gaining benefit from our conflicts, when we ourselves will not do so. Iran, Hizbollah have openly waged wars against Sunnis of Syria. Even shia from Iraq who follow the Ayatollahs commands are going there to fight along the Alawite kuffar. Sunni Muslims should urge their NATIONS to intervene, not just individuals or jihadi groups. I read leading clerics of Eygpt urging Arab men to go and fight alongside the sunni's of Syria, they should instead urge their governments to do so.

Well, Uncle NATO says that more than 70% of Syrians support President Assad. How can sane minds depict current chaos in Syria as sectarian is beyond me. But i guess we could always count on foolishness of the fools.

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Well, the "Syrian people" have spoken. Roughly 70% support the government of Bashar al-Assad. Another 20% are neutral. And only 10% are aligned with the Western-supported "rebels", including those of the kidnapping, lung-eating, beheading jihadi kind.
http://www.atimes.co...-03-050613.html

[platinum786]

Lies, damned lies and statistics. Firstly the article references no names of who carried out the survey. Secondly it looks like it was written by a blogger rather than s mature journalist. The guardian states one from 2012 giving him about 50% popularity. This is before he gassed he s own people, killing over 100,000. Right now there are millions of refugees in Turkey and Jordan, all Sunnis. Thus is sar-e-am war on Sunnis of Syria by Assad, Ayatollah and his attack dogs.

[Hulegu]

Just google the polls.It was done by European relief agencies this month. Asia Times caters to journalists and not bloggers.
Yes Syria gassed its people. Iraq had WMD.
The day Pakistan as a nation backs the TTP terrorists, is the day I'd believe Syrians back the alqaida terrorists. One thing you gotta remember is that people aint fools when it comes to their personal interests. That despite your Islamic zeal, I am sure that you prefer the govt of Pakistan which is seen as inefficient, corrupt, and a puppet than the Islamic TTP or LJ that are supposedly independent or Islamic. Same goes for the 70% of Syrians who back their govt. If you were a Syrian, you too would back the govt because you seem rational. Religious slogans are just that- slogans. Always good to chant and never appropriate to implement or live by. Iranians chant slogans, Egyptians chant slogans, Lebanese, Qataris, Turks etc. At the end of the day they all seek their own national & personal interests that have very little to do with religion.
Dont believe me? Take a look at the Burmese Muslims? How many of those cannibal terrorists are there to protect a community that is on the verge of annihilation? The answer is ZERO!!!! So please do yourself a favor and take the sectarian goggles off and look at the world with the faculties that god has given you and not with the propaganda that is shoved our throats.

[cheif No 1]

Hulegu, on 16 June 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

Well, Uncle NATO says that more than 70% of Syrians support President Assad. How can sane minds depict current chaos in Syria as sectarian is beyond me. But i guess we could always count on foolishness of the fools.

And Nearly 100% supported Saddam when he took vote few days before the invasion started.

[motorola]

Well they really messed it up. 2 years and nearly 100,000 dead and pretty much nowhere in terms of getting rid of Assad (if anything things are looking rosier)...and people wonder why the Saudis called in the Americans to push Saddam out of Kuwait...can you imagine the mess it would have been if the Muslims tried it themselves.

Not only that Syria is now full of AQ nutters (by some reports) so even if they do remove Assad the new goverment is going to have to deal with this mess...no, we're all gonna have to deal with it if Lee Rigbys death is anything to go by.

Quit messing about and send in your troops or train a proper free syrian army, they've had 2 years and 000s of fully trained defectors from Syrian army. It's not like Iran isn't already in there.

[Jazba-e-Kashmir]

before everyone reads my comment, i want to underline i am not throwing dirt, any accusation or anyt small insult on Shias etc.
This is a converstation i had with my Iraqi-Shia - and MY MuSLIM BROTHER!* Who lived in Syria and has had personal experience with Syrians.

- He told or argued with me that the reason the Shias support bashar al assad with full iranian support is, if bashar al assad is removed then the crazy Sunni lunatics would end up killing Shias.
Eventhough he said that before the war erupted, Shia and Sunni communities lived side by side, in peace, harmony and wishing love for each other. Before the war erupted, Sunnis shot bullet rounds up in the sky to mark that no Shias and Sunnis would cross the "invisible limits", even if they live in the same street.

Then in our conversation, he brang up the internal conflict between Sunni-Shia, which i counter argued wasn't needed to discuss as it was not related to Syria. When Syria hasn't had any major problems before.
Anyways, i said that, the level of emotional stupidity is Sunni-Shia will think back to the conflict between the two sides due to religious reasons - where in reality none of those two till this day will ever agree what happend during hazrat Abu Kar, Umar, Uthmaan and Hazrat Ali's (May Allah Bless all) time.
I counter argued, when our common Islamic Forefathers and Elders of This Ummah (May Allah Bless them all) have all passed away, and they disagreed on issues, yet agreed upon on many other issues, respected and loved each other, then why should we bang our own heads in the wall, when we can't do anything about it all?! Now it's not that we can open their graves (AsterfirullAllah) to ask them why such and such, so and so, we want his and this, because we want it to be like so.


- Majority of the soldiers/attackers/fighters are from African countries, Qatar, Bahrain, KSA. None of the foreigners are allowed to inflict in Syria's own internal affairs, but everyone thinks they have the right to do so.
Ironically and very oddly, i think - that it's ok iran inflicts in Syria's politics and internal matters - eventhough i am against all foreign politcal intervention/infliction in Syria's internal political matters.


So, does my conversation with my Shia Muslim BROTHER* sum up or reflect upon the present situation in Syria?

Peace


*  wrote BROTHER on purpose as it is time and a need to stand as Muslims side by side, shoulder to shoulder even if we have our differences. It should't bring us down as a whole family.