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Posted 19 May 2013 - 07:04 AM
This man is calling for the separation of Pakistan as well.
He has ordered the killing of vice-president Zahra Shahid Hussain.
I think the MQM should be banned from politics for treason and terrorism against the State Of Pakistan.
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:07 PM
until and unless the masses realize what is good for them and their future generations in the long run and ditch these ghunda parties like the mqm, pee pee pee and what not, these thugs will continue to be around.
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:07 PM
akthus, on 19 May 2013 - 07:04 AM, said:
This man is calling for the separation of Pakistan as well.
He has ordered the killing of vice-president Zahra Shahid Hussain.
I think the MQM should be banned from politics for treason and terrorism against the State Of Pakistan.
mqm, pee pee pee and pmln, they are all national threats and hazards and need to be stamped out.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:21 AM
Baring Nawaz political suicide, I foresee a friendly opposition, and Sharifs will be given 5 years to pillage this country.
Meanwhile, I would need to swallow my own bitter pill and as mentioned before the elections on this forum, I'd be changing my nationality.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:24 AM
MoThSmOkE, on 20 May 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:
Baring Nawaz political suicide, I foresee a friendly opposition, and Sharifs will be given 5 years to pillage this country.
Meanwhile, I would need to swallow my own bitter pill and as mentioned before the elections on this forum, I'd be changing my nationality.
I don't think PTI would be a friendly opposition by any means. But let's see.
Which nationality are you opting for?
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:26 AM
I am in Bangkok Thailand for a long time.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:42 AM
Canadian? Australian? Find a nice Thai woman from the thai Muslim community there and marry her then get naturalized I guess. There is a pretty sizable Muslim community in Thailand from what I hear...
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:03 AM
MoThSmOkE, on 20 May 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:
Baring Nawaz political suicide, I foresee a friendly opposition, and Sharifs will be given 5 years to pillage this country.
Meanwhile, I would need to swallow my own bitter pill and as mentioned before the elections on this forum, I'd be changing my nationality.
You could give kaffara - if you must. But I wouldn't give up on Pakistan just yet. PTI came in second in the whole country - and recieved large number of votes in most of the constituencies. Are about to make Government in KPK. People are waking up - sometimes it required more then one blow to bring down a structure so well rooted.
I would suggest you not give up on Pakistan - people haven't. besides the fact that Imran Khan's message of change got so much support - should in itself be enough for you to not consider. It is no longer a back and fro between NS and BB.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:06 AM
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 03:27 AM
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Canadian? Australian? Find a nice Thai woman from the thai Muslim community there and marry her then get naturalized I guess. There is a pretty sizable Muslim community in Thailand from what I hear...
I am married with a kid. Although marrying another is not out of the question, lol. I think about 5% of Thais are muslims. With a lot of them having Pathan blood.
The call for change is loud at the moment as elections just passed last week. A month after today, we'll all be praying.
What do you mean by kaffara? taking back one's word?
Thailand gives nationality, but its very difficult. The system is not transparent. Although people who were born here, educated here, have good education background, and have paid decent amount of tax for the last 5 years are eligible to get it in a very short time. While others, the process keeps dragging on for ages, 5-10 years.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 04:21 AM
Altaf gets money from GB of which he then shares with his immediate MQM workers who in turn funnel it down to their troopers. Hence, you get a wealthy party with a military wing which then exercises its mandate by terrorism and mass murder.
You control the flow of money to MQM, Altaf and party will be history. That is Pakistani politics and that is the game. It is simple to understand but tough to eradicate.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 05:56 AM
rungroot, on 20 May 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:
Than someone else will rise up. People are not out for Imran Khan - they are out because they want change. They want their lives to improve, they want Pakistan to move forward towards prosperity, and betterment.
If he fails, someone else will be brought in, as we can see people don't have to be brought into power by military leadership.
And at the end - Allah has power over everything.
We should not despair.
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Allah knows best [who are] your enemies. Allah is sufficient as a Friend, and Allah is sufficient as a Helper. [4:45]
Fudayl ibn Iyaad said: "Verily, if an action was done sincerely for the sake of Allah but was not correct, it will not be accepted by Allah. And if the action was correct but not done sincerely it will not be accepted until the act is sincere and correct. For it to be sincere, it has to be done for the sake of Allah, and in order for it to be correct, it has to agree to the sunnah."
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 06:07 AM
MoThSmOkE, on 20 May 2013 - 03:27 AM, said:
Yes, but this time we have a good opposition. it's not going to be Noora Kushti like last time. And here is the thing - as bad as the last government was, it's time too has passed. So if these guys decide to loot, and I hope they wont get free reign as the last, their time too will pass.
Insha'Allah eventually someone better would come to power. These elections have shown that own people are not dead just yet.
Who knows, maybe if India decides to block off our water we could actually find a new motivation to think beyond mere money and unite once again...
MoThSmOkE, on 20 May 2013 - 03:27 AM, said:
I mean if you think you have made a promise and you are unable to fulfill it, then there is another way. You shouldn't give up on Pakistani Nationality. It is your land, just as you don't leave your family forever because they are going through a tough time, you shouldn't leave Pakistan.
You hold on to it, maybe one day you would find that the situation has improved enough for you to return. Don't give up on Pakistan.
Remember, Pakistan is not just any country - it is an idea. Maybe someday Allah will enable us to do something important.
What have you got to loose bhai?
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Not equal are the owners of the fire and the owners of the Garden. The owners of the Garden, they are the victorious. [Quran 59:20]
Allah knows best [who are] your enemies. Allah is sufficient as a Friend, and Allah is sufficient as a Helper. [4:45]
Fudayl ibn Iyaad said: "Verily, if an action was done sincerely for the sake of Allah but was not correct, it will not be accepted by Allah. And if the action was correct but not done sincerely it will not be accepted until the act is sincere and correct. For it to be sincere, it has to be done for the sake of Allah, and in order for it to be correct, it has to agree to the sunnah."
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:33 AM
akthus, on 19 May 2013 - 07:04 AM, said:
This man is calling for the separation of Pakistan as well.
He has ordered the killing of vice-president Zahra Shahid Hussain.
I think the MQM should be banned from politics for treason and terrorism against the State Of Pakistan.
I believe that Imran Khan got Zahra Shahid Hussein killed in order to win the sympathy of people and bag that NA-250 seat.. He is following the footsteps of Zardari.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 10:30 AM
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Aliph Ahmed, on 20 May 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:
Wow... simply wow.
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Not equal are the owners of the fire and the owners of the Garden. The owners of the Garden, they are the victorious. [Quran 59:20]
Allah knows best [who are] your enemies. Allah is sufficient as a Friend, and Allah is sufficient as a Helper. [4:45]
Fudayl ibn Iyaad said: "Verily, if an action was done sincerely for the sake of Allah but was not correct, it will not be accepted by Allah. And if the action was correct but not done sincerely it will not be accepted until the act is sincere and correct. For it to be sincere, it has to be done for the sake of Allah, and in order for it to be correct, it has to agree to the sunnah."
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Apologies in advance if my comments or questions come across as rude or provocative. I am only trying to understand the mindset of a diehard MQM supporter.
My questions
1. Why do you support MQM?
2. Do you believe Altaf Hussain is a good leader for Pakistan?
3. Do you believe Altaf Hussain is a good leader for MQM?
4. Can you please explain your definition of "good leader"?
5. Do you honestly believe that Imran Khan killed Zahra Shahid Hussein?
6. Do you consider yourself to be a "Mohajir"?
7. Can you please define your understanding or "Mohajir"?
8. Do you believe MQM is involved in terrorism?
Regards,
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We can't rely on PTI or anyone else, we must work ourselves on small things to make the big difference. If every 1 of us could organise and fund (through the donations of others) 1 class in 1 village. It could be a fiqh class, it could be basic literacy or numeracy for adults, or women, or family planning, imagine how many lives we can touch. Imagine if 100 of us can do it? Or if we can provide the support to 1 poor family to get a bright student through higher education. Perhaps fund a micro-loan system. Have a fundraiser, get some people to provide money, then use this money to help setup or improve small businesses in Pakistan, like buying a person a sowing machine, or providing a shop with money for stock? The catch would be they return it back into the pot, if they can. These little changes might multiply.
Thinking big is essential, but lets not forget the little things and the little people.
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platinum786, on 22 May 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:
Words of wisdom. hehe
Me like.
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Not equal are the owners of the fire and the owners of the Garden. The owners of the Garden, they are the victorious. [Quran 59:20]
Allah knows best [who are] your enemies. Allah is sufficient as a Friend, and Allah is sufficient as a Helper. [4:45]
Fudayl ibn Iyaad said: "Verily, if an action was done sincerely for the sake of Allah but was not correct, it will not be accepted by Allah. And if the action was correct but not done sincerely it will not be accepted until the act is sincere and correct. For it to be sincere, it has to be done for the sake of Allah, and in order for it to be correct, it has to agree to the sunnah."
the Messenger of Allah pbuh says; “whoever does not care about the affairs of the Muslims is not one of them.”
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