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Us Official Kills Two Pakistanis In Lahore
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 11:20 AM
PTI is trying to increase its popularity. PPP will be seen as siding with the Americans, PML-N will maintain a low profile as it would not want to antagonize the Americans either.
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 11:39 AM
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That is why we call them uloo ka patha,s all the politicians who try to en cash this situation it is time for national unity not for a stupid moves of Imran khan
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 12:20 PM
O please. When did the americans treat others as equal? Nukes on Japan, agent orange in Vietnam, lying in Korea (to start a war) Iran and some other examples... We have seen trigger happy morons shooting on opponents like idiots. Frankly, I have never seen one nations behaving this arrogant and bad. This so called asking to release an moron by USA is the normal attitude. They should hang the killer. That is what he should have.
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 03:18 PM
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PTI is trying to increase its popularity. PPP will be seen as siding with the Americans, PML-N will maintain a low profile as it would not want to antagonize the Americans either.
PPP is the ghulam of americans, their days are over. Only some sindhi nationalists still support PPP.
PTI is becoming increasingly popular. If everyone in Pakistan between the ages of 18-35 come out and vote on election day then PTI will definately win the elections. PTI is very popular among the youth of Pakistan and the majority of Pakistan's population is under the age of 30.
Imran Khan is the only politician that speaks for the interest of Pakistan. Americans and their ghulams are destroying Pakistan.
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 03:24 PM
The Americans are demanding his release, I don’t know if the Pakistani politicians will be able to resist American demands and twisted law to free him. The onus is on Pakistan now. if Pakistan fast-tracks the case and get him imprisoned that’s half the matter resolved, if an American represents him he has a chance to escape, so I think Pakistan should use this opportunity to force them a plea bargain or lock him up and do a prisoner swap deal for him to serve his sentence in America which would of course be freedom anyway, its better to hold on to him no matter how hard it would be then to just release him like this.
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 03:35 PM
Pakistani politicians will do nothing but to release him after the situation calm down a bit.
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 03:53 PM
Arrested US national does not have diplomatic visa: Documents
A new twist in the Raymond Davis saga has come to the fore, as DawnNews exclusively reveals vital information related to the accused.
Travel Documents exclusively obtained by DawnNews reveal that Raymond Davis who is allegedly involved in the killing of two Pakistani citizens is not on a diplomatic visa.
According to the documents it is also revealed that Davis was issued a two-year extension to his last visa from the interior ministry in Islamabad which was the third time he received a Pakistani visa.
The travel documents also disclose that this was Davis’s ninth trip to Pakistan.
The US Embassy had first claimed that Raymond Davis was a staff member of the US Consulate in Lahore.
The embassy then retracted their statement and called him a diplomat and finally on Sunday the embassy stated that the US diplomat detained in Lahore is a member of the Embassy’s technical and administrative staff, and therefore entitled to full criminal immunity and cannot be lawfully arrested or detained in accordance with the Vienna convention of 1963.
Another surprising twist to the story saw the US State Department spokemman P.J Crowley claiming that the actual name of the suspect has not been revealed, however the travel documents clearly show the name to be Raymond Allen Davis.
http://www.dawn.com/...-documents.html
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‘Accused US diplomat holds no special privileges’
LAHORE: Deputy Prosecutor General of Punjab, Rana Bakhtiar said on Sunday that Raymond Davis had fired the bullets from the back thus it was not a case of ‘self defense’ as he had stated earlier.
Rana also said that Davis, charged with murder of two motorcyclists in Lahore, did not hold any special privileges as a diplomat.
Referring to Article 49-2 of the Vienna Convention, he said that diplomatic officials only hold privilege when they are on duty, but Davis was in Pakistan on a business visa.
Davis is being described by the American media as a security contractor from a Florida-based firm, Hyperion Protective Consultants, LLC.
That Foreign Office and the US embassy were not on the same page on the issue of status of the accused was obvious from an FO press release that mentioned Davis as a US ‘functionary’, and not a diplomat.
http://www.dawn.com/...privileges.html
A new twist in the Raymond Davis saga has come to the fore, as DawnNews exclusively reveals vital information related to the accused.
Travel Documents exclusively obtained by DawnNews reveal that Raymond Davis who is allegedly involved in the killing of two Pakistani citizens is not on a diplomatic visa.
According to the documents it is also revealed that Davis was issued a two-year extension to his last visa from the interior ministry in Islamabad which was the third time he received a Pakistani visa.
The travel documents also disclose that this was Davis’s ninth trip to Pakistan.
The US Embassy had first claimed that Raymond Davis was a staff member of the US Consulate in Lahore.
The embassy then retracted their statement and called him a diplomat and finally on Sunday the embassy stated that the US diplomat detained in Lahore is a member of the Embassy’s technical and administrative staff, and therefore entitled to full criminal immunity and cannot be lawfully arrested or detained in accordance with the Vienna convention of 1963.
Another surprising twist to the story saw the US State Department spokemman P.J Crowley claiming that the actual name of the suspect has not been revealed, however the travel documents clearly show the name to be Raymond Allen Davis.
http://www.dawn.com/...-documents.html
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‘Accused US diplomat holds no special privileges’
LAHORE: Deputy Prosecutor General of Punjab, Rana Bakhtiar said on Sunday that Raymond Davis had fired the bullets from the back thus it was not a case of ‘self defense’ as he had stated earlier.
Rana also said that Davis, charged with murder of two motorcyclists in Lahore, did not hold any special privileges as a diplomat.
Referring to Article 49-2 of the Vienna Convention, he said that diplomatic officials only hold privilege when they are on duty, but Davis was in Pakistan on a business visa.
Davis is being described by the American media as a security contractor from a Florida-based firm, Hyperion Protective Consultants, LLC.
That Foreign Office and the US embassy were not on the same page on the issue of status of the accused was obvious from an FO press release that mentioned Davis as a US ‘functionary’, and not a diplomat.
http://www.dawn.com/...privileges.html
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 04:46 PM
These rulers and politician (including the ganjas) they are just giving statements and dragging this issue. In ideal world, this fker should have been send to anti terrorism court, get and speedy trial, and hanged three times on the same spot he killed the Pakistanis. Time wasting is this. Perhaps they are weary as Salman Taseer episode is not a distant memory. Maybe they are thinking and looking after their own backsides. We know how much Zardari value the lives of Pakistanis when he declared that he didnt give a #### about collateral damage caused by drones, and with regards to ganjas, their track record isnt to be proud of either. The way Amil Kansi was handed over to yanks is no secret.
My heart say skin this redneck alive on the streets of lahore, but mind say na, let him go scot free with a middle finger shown to the nation of 180 million, perhpas that may, may trigger Tunisia/Eygpt style uprising against the rulers/politicians.
My heart say skin this redneck alive on the streets of lahore, but mind say na, let him go scot free with a middle finger shown to the nation of 180 million, perhpas that may, may trigger Tunisia/Eygpt style uprising against the rulers/politicians.
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 05:02 PM
If this killer manages to escape then other Americans terrorists running around the country may be hunted down by people and made to pay the price. And the Pakistani traitors on American payroll will also be exterminated.
But the Yankees cannot afford to let the killer go on trial. It sends the wrong message to the other American terrorists that their government can't save them.
Either way they're going to lose.
As Egypt shows, everything is not in the Yankee's control. They're soon going to taste the fruits of their War on Islam.
But the Yankees cannot afford to let the killer go on trial. It sends the wrong message to the other American terrorists that their government can't save them.
Either way they're going to lose.
As Egypt shows, everything is not in the Yankee's control. They're soon going to taste the fruits of their War on Islam.
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QUOTE (Zola @ Jan 30 2011, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Arrested US national does not have diplomatic visa: Documents
A new twist in the Raymond Davis saga has come to the fore, as DawnNews exclusively reveals vital information related to the accused.
Travel Documents exclusively obtained by DawnNews reveal that Raymond Davis who is allegedly involved in the killing of two Pakistani citizens is not on a diplomatic visa.
According to the documents it is also revealed that Davis was issued a two-year extension to his last visa from the interior ministry in Islamabad which was the third time he received a Pakistani visa.
The travel documents also disclose that this was Davis’s ninth trip to Pakistan.
The US Embassy had first claimed that Raymond Davis was a staff member of the US Consulate in Lahore.
The embassy then retracted their statement and called him a diplomat and finally on Sunday the embassy stated that the US diplomat detained in Lahore is a member of the Embassy’s technical and administrative staff, and therefore entitled to full criminal immunity and cannot be lawfully arrested or detained in accordance with the Vienna convention of 1963.
Another surprising twist to the story saw the US State Department spokemman P.J Crowley claiming that the actual name of the suspect has not been revealed, however the travel documents clearly show the name to be Raymond Allen Davis.
http://www.dawn.com/...-documents.html
_____________________________________________________________________
‘Accused US diplomat holds no special privileges’
LAHORE: Deputy Prosecutor General of Punjab, Rana Bakhtiar said on Sunday that Raymond Davis had fired the bullets from the back thus it was not a case of ‘self defense’ as he had stated earlier.
Rana also said that Davis, charged with murder of two motorcyclists in Lahore, did not hold any special privileges as a diplomat.
Referring to Article 49-2 of the Vienna Convention, he said that diplomatic officials only hold privilege when they are on duty, but Davis was in Pakistan on a business visa.
Davis is being described by the American media as a security contractor from a Florida-based firm, Hyperion Protective Consultants, LLC.
That Foreign Office and the US embassy were not on the same page on the issue of status of the accused was obvious from an FO press release that mentioned Davis as a US ‘functionary’, and not a diplomat.
http://www.dawn.com/...privileges.html
A new twist in the Raymond Davis saga has come to the fore, as DawnNews exclusively reveals vital information related to the accused.
Travel Documents exclusively obtained by DawnNews reveal that Raymond Davis who is allegedly involved in the killing of two Pakistani citizens is not on a diplomatic visa.
According to the documents it is also revealed that Davis was issued a two-year extension to his last visa from the interior ministry in Islamabad which was the third time he received a Pakistani visa.
The travel documents also disclose that this was Davis’s ninth trip to Pakistan.
The US Embassy had first claimed that Raymond Davis was a staff member of the US Consulate in Lahore.
The embassy then retracted their statement and called him a diplomat and finally on Sunday the embassy stated that the US diplomat detained in Lahore is a member of the Embassy’s technical and administrative staff, and therefore entitled to full criminal immunity and cannot be lawfully arrested or detained in accordance with the Vienna convention of 1963.
Another surprising twist to the story saw the US State Department spokemman P.J Crowley claiming that the actual name of the suspect has not been revealed, however the travel documents clearly show the name to be Raymond Allen Davis.
http://www.dawn.com/...-documents.html
_____________________________________________________________________
‘Accused US diplomat holds no special privileges’
LAHORE: Deputy Prosecutor General of Punjab, Rana Bakhtiar said on Sunday that Raymond Davis had fired the bullets from the back thus it was not a case of ‘self defense’ as he had stated earlier.
Rana also said that Davis, charged with murder of two motorcyclists in Lahore, did not hold any special privileges as a diplomat.
Referring to Article 49-2 of the Vienna Convention, he said that diplomatic officials only hold privilege when they are on duty, but Davis was in Pakistan on a business visa.
Davis is being described by the American media as a security contractor from a Florida-based firm, Hyperion Protective Consultants, LLC.
That Foreign Office and the US embassy were not on the same page on the issue of status of the accused was obvious from an FO press release that mentioned Davis as a US ‘functionary’, and not a diplomat.
http://www.dawn.com/...privileges.html
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 09:14 PM
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had this incident taken place in islamabad , federal area etc, this redneck trailer trash would have been back home by now
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had this incident taken place in islamabad , federal area etc, this redneck trailer trash would have been back home by now
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 09:49 PM
They had similar terrorists arrested in Batha, Iraq posing as Sunni extremists while gunning down Shias, trying to create divide over there. They were captured and put in jail and were found to be MI6 agents, and British forces stormed the jail and released them before their trial could go public.
I am impressed that this guy hasn't been released yet, but rest assured other Blackwater/CIA agents will bust him out soon enough before any kind of trial could go into effect. Only justice here is vigilante justice I'm afraid, let this swine into the open streets unarmed, and let the folks do with him what the Iraqi civilians did to these 4 contractors
http://www.chinadail...tent_323136.htm
I am impressed that this guy hasn't been released yet, but rest assured other Blackwater/CIA agents will bust him out soon enough before any kind of trial could go into effect. Only justice here is vigilante justice I'm afraid, let this swine into the open streets unarmed, and let the folks do with him what the Iraqi civilians did to these 4 contractors
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 09:57 PM
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 11:24 PM
According to Express News the two men who were shot in the back were working for Pakistani intelligence and were following the American terrorist.
The American withdrew cash from a bank. I wouldn't be surprised if he was going to pay the people who bombed Lahore a couple of days ago.
The American withdrew cash from a bank. I wouldn't be surprised if he was going to pay the people who bombed Lahore a couple of days ago.
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Nawaz cancels UK visit
LAHORE: Chief of his own faction of the Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N), Nawaz Sharif on Sunday postponed his scheduled tour to the UK. Sharif was supposed to leave on Monday on a private visit but he cancelled his plans owing to his current engagements.
Sources in the PML-N said that the US has put immense pressure on Nawaz Sharif to relieve the US official involved in the Lahore shootings. The Punjab government is involved in litigation and investigation against US Embassy official Raymond Davis. Party members said that US Ambassador in Pakistan Cameron Munter on Saturday asked Nawaz Sharif to resolve the issue.
They said that Nawaz has held several meetings with seasoned party officials, discussing the matter in depth, adding that Munter told Nawaz that the federal government had assured the ambassador it will not create any hurdles if the Punjab government was ready to facilitate Davis’ release.
Party members said that Nawaz has assigned PML-N office-bearers the task of persuading the family of the dead person to pardon Davis. Nawaz has cancelled all other party activities and is taking a personal interest in the matter, they said.
According to PML-N officials, the federal government has informed foreign diplomats that the Punjab government is responsible for legal procedures against Davis because he committed the crime in Lahore. They said that the Punjab government’s involvement in the Davis issue and the US’ pressure on Nawaz have forced the PML-N chief to cancel his foreign visit.
Religious parties and various factions of the Pakistan Muslim League have started a campaign against Davis and if Nawaz takes a wrong step, he risks losing his popularity. On the other hand if he refuses to cooperate with the US, he could lose his good reputation there, a party official said.
Published in The Express Tribune, January 31st, 2011.
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LAHORE: Chief of his own faction of the Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N), Nawaz Sharif on Sunday postponed his scheduled tour to the UK. Sharif was supposed to leave on Monday on a private visit but he cancelled his plans owing to his current engagements.
Sources in the PML-N said that the US has put immense pressure on Nawaz Sharif to relieve the US official involved in the Lahore shootings. The Punjab government is involved in litigation and investigation against US Embassy official Raymond Davis. Party members said that US Ambassador in Pakistan Cameron Munter on Saturday asked Nawaz Sharif to resolve the issue.
They said that Nawaz has held several meetings with seasoned party officials, discussing the matter in depth, adding that Munter told Nawaz that the federal government had assured the ambassador it will not create any hurdles if the Punjab government was ready to facilitate Davis’ release.
Party members said that Nawaz has assigned PML-N office-bearers the task of persuading the family of the dead person to pardon Davis. Nawaz has cancelled all other party activities and is taking a personal interest in the matter, they said.
According to PML-N officials, the federal government has informed foreign diplomats that the Punjab government is responsible for legal procedures against Davis because he committed the crime in Lahore. They said that the Punjab government’s involvement in the Davis issue and the US’ pressure on Nawaz have forced the PML-N chief to cancel his foreign visit.
Religious parties and various factions of the Pakistan Muslim League have started a campaign against Davis and if Nawaz takes a wrong step, he risks losing his popularity. On the other hand if he refuses to cooperate with the US, he could lose his good reputation there, a party official said.
Published in The Express Tribune, January 31st, 2011.
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QUOTE (Tamerlane @ Jan 31 2011, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to Express News the two men who were shot in the back were working for Pakistani intelligence and were following the American terrorist.
The American withdrew cash from a bank. I wouldn't be surprised if he was going to pay the people who bombed Lahore a couple of days ago.
The American withdrew cash from a bank. I wouldn't be surprised if he was going to pay the people who bombed Lahore a couple of days ago.
Exactly!! This guy was probably a terrorist financier of Blackwater. The area (Qartaba Chowk) where he was caught red handed is very close to the spot where few days back a suicide bombing took place. This s.o.b. was either going to pay the perpetrators of that crime or probably was preparing for another massacre in Lahore. He has no business to be in that area of Mazang.
That second 4x4 that crushed an innocent to death was in panic mode after this incident because it was most likely carrying explosives for the next job this s.o.b was going to pay. The question is if this guy after killing two persons didn't try to escape than why the other vehicle which came to help him immediately escaped from the scene. There must be some thing in this vehicle which these bastards americans do not wanted to be caught. Any why the american consulate is so far refusing to handover that vehicle to police for investigation?
I think this case is pretty clear. We got these bastards caught red handed. The police must find out that other vehicle and investigate that case from terrorism point of view as well. There is a clear linkage between the suicide bombing that happened few days back and this particular incident.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 12:19 AM
So Zardari has passed the buck to Sharif. Let's see where his loyalties lie - to Pakistan or America.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 12:24 AM
Pakistan has fallen so low, situation will have to get much worse before people realize they can change situation and start working
in their the interest of Pakistan, sole Muslim nuclear super power. What a shame.
in their the interest of Pakistan, sole Muslim nuclear super power. What a shame.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 12:32 AM
QUOTE (bosnam @ Jan 31 2011, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pakistan has fallen so low, situation will have to get much worse before people realize they can change situation and start working
in their the interest of Pakistan, sole Muslim nuclear super power. What a shame.
in their the interest of Pakistan, sole Muslim nuclear super power. What a shame.
You were saying that Pakistanis should have some self-confidence. Unfortunately we have the most rotten and corrupt government in the world. But we're going to have a revolution very soon and then we'll fix things and Pakistan will rise again inshallah.
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QUOTE (bosnam @ Jan 31 2011, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pakistan has fallen so low, situation will have to get much worse before people realize they can change situation and start working
in their the interest of Pakistan, sole Muslim nuclear super power. What a shame.
in their the interest of Pakistan, sole Muslim nuclear super power. What a shame.
you are right... We are not only at a low level..... I am afraid we have fallen beyond the point of no return...
There is no hope for this nation..... From the neo-liberal whitie asss lickers to the crazy blood-thirsty extremists there is no middle ground..... there is no honorable middle ground... They all left this sinking
ship.....
The muslim world should just give up on anything from Pakistan... no hope! Sorry.....
Watch & see... I bet u anything... The Pakistani baastard government will let this murdering american go fee!
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QUOTE (Tamerlane @ Jan 31 2011, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So Zardari has passed the buck to Sharif. Let's see where his loyalties lie - to Pakistan or America.
That Zardari Kutta and Rehman Nai have already promised the release of this s.o.b. to americans. Zardari has also promised the american ambassador that even if the court convicts him of his crime he will get him a presidential pardon after his conviction.
On the other hand Nawaz Sharif has so far refused to budge over the demands of his release as the case is in the court now.
Yes the buck is now on his door but if he made any concession to these bloody yanks then he knows pretty well where his political future will go. I think he should have in mind the disastrous decision he made on Kargil in 1999 that was against the public sentiment.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 12:56 AM
QUOTE (clutch @ Jan 31 2011, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you are right... We are not only at a low level..... I am afraid we have fallen beyond the point of no return...
There is no hope for this nation..... From the neo-liberal whitie asss lickers to the crazy blood-thirsty extremists there is no middle ground..... there is no honorable middle ground... They all left this sinking
ship.....
The muslim world should just give up on anything from Pakistan... no hope! Sorry.....
Watch & see... I bet u anything... The Pakistani baastard government will let this murdering american go fee!
There is no hope for this nation..... From the neo-liberal whitie asss lickers to the crazy blood-thirsty extremists there is no middle ground..... there is no honorable middle ground... They all left this sinking
ship.....
The muslim world should just give up on anything from Pakistan... no hope! Sorry.....
Watch & see... I bet u anything... The Pakistani baastard government will let this murdering american go fee!
I'm not worried at all. Like they say: it's darkest before dawn. Check out this site:
Future of Pakistan:
http://spiritual-Pak...e.blogspot.com/
This is a website that's compiled articles (mostly in Urdu) regarding prophecies about Pakistan made over the years by all kinds of spiritual and non-spiritual people. Despite all the doom and gloom nowadays all the predictions are that Pakistan is going to have a great future, inshallah.
The current collapse is going to be the turning point.
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‘Davis an employee of private security firm’ (Black Water, XE ?)
WASHINGTON: ABC News, a major US media network, has identified Raymond Davis, an American accused of killing two Pakistani men, as an employee of a private security company.
The company, Hyperion Protective Consultants LLC, is based at 5100 North Lane, Orlando, Florida 32808.
The Huffington Post, a popular US news Website, while commenting on the ABC News report, notes that the firm “seems like a fly-by-night company that, among other small bore services, sells things like pepper spray” and “sounds like a classic CIA cut-out”.
The company`s Website says that it was founded in 1999 by someone called Gerald L. Richardson “to find ways to guide (the customers) through the often foggy areas of loss and risk management”.
Each one of “our hand selected employees brings to the workplace the best attributes available in the south-eastern region of the United States”.
The US Embassy in Islamabad on Saturday demanded that Pakistani authorities release Mr Davis, who faces murder charges in the recent deaths of two men in Lahore, arguing that he was protected by diplomatic immunity.
Pakistani authorities say Mr Davis was a technical adviser working in the US Consulate in Lahore. The authorities also say that they will leave it to the courts to decide whether the consulate employee is protected by diplomatic immunity.
Last week, US State Department spokesman P. J. Crowley told a briefing in Washington that the name had been misreported.
After denying the man`s name is Raymond Davis, Mr Crowley said he could disclose the real identity of the accused. The spokesman also refused to disclose in what capacity did the accuse work for the embassy or why he was apparently carrying a firearm.
“I can confirm that an employee at the US consulate in Lahore was involved in an incident today,” Mr Crowley said on Thursday. “It is under investigation. We have not released the identity of our employee at this point.” —Correspondent
http://www.dawn.com/...urity-firm.html
WASHINGTON: ABC News, a major US media network, has identified Raymond Davis, an American accused of killing two Pakistani men, as an employee of a private security company.
The company, Hyperion Protective Consultants LLC, is based at 5100 North Lane, Orlando, Florida 32808.
The Huffington Post, a popular US news Website, while commenting on the ABC News report, notes that the firm “seems like a fly-by-night company that, among other small bore services, sells things like pepper spray” and “sounds like a classic CIA cut-out”.
The company`s Website says that it was founded in 1999 by someone called Gerald L. Richardson “to find ways to guide (the customers) through the often foggy areas of loss and risk management”.
Each one of “our hand selected employees brings to the workplace the best attributes available in the south-eastern region of the United States”.
The US Embassy in Islamabad on Saturday demanded that Pakistani authorities release Mr Davis, who faces murder charges in the recent deaths of two men in Lahore, arguing that he was protected by diplomatic immunity.
Pakistani authorities say Mr Davis was a technical adviser working in the US Consulate in Lahore. The authorities also say that they will leave it to the courts to decide whether the consulate employee is protected by diplomatic immunity.
Last week, US State Department spokesman P. J. Crowley told a briefing in Washington that the name had been misreported.
After denying the man`s name is Raymond Davis, Mr Crowley said he could disclose the real identity of the accused. The spokesman also refused to disclose in what capacity did the accuse work for the embassy or why he was apparently carrying a firearm.
“I can confirm that an employee at the US consulate in Lahore was involved in an incident today,” Mr Crowley said on Thursday. “It is under investigation. We have not released the identity of our employee at this point.” —Correspondent
http://www.dawn.com/...urity-firm.html
"The values we believe in are worth fighting for, they are in the ascendant, we should not be shy of giving our action, not just the force of self interest, but moral force, we must promote our values to ensure our long term security and prosperity but also because we are in the right. We must go further than smashing unfriendly regimes and hunting infidel in to the ground. We must also ensure that the governments and populations we allow to survive are convinced that our way is the high way. We must ensure that the Muslim college kids and school children and susceptible moderates steadily imbue tiny draughts of our values, we want them on our side before they are even aware that the war of values has began. We want them intoxicated". Tony Blair, April 2002.
''Victory is for those who endure the most''
''Victory is for those who endure the most''
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Handover this M****RF****R to the Pathans of NWFP and take revenge of Dr. Afia 
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 03:23 AM
QUOTE (clutch @ Jan 31 2011, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you are right... We are not only at a low level..... I am afraid we have fallen beyond the point of no return...
There is no hope for this nation..... From the neo-liberal whitie asss lickers to the crazy blood-thirsty extremists there is no middle ground..... there is no honorable middle ground... They all left this sinking
ship.....
The muslim world should just give up on anything from Pakistan... no hope! Sorry.....
Watch & see... I bet u anything... The Pakistani baastard government will let this murdering american go fee!
There is no hope for this nation..... From the neo-liberal whitie asss lickers to the crazy blood-thirsty extremists there is no middle ground..... there is no honorable middle ground... They all left this sinking
ship.....
The muslim world should just give up on anything from Pakistan... no hope! Sorry.....
Watch & see... I bet u anything... The Pakistani baastard government will let this murdering american go fee!
Pakistan has immense potential but some external and internal elements are hell-bent in trying to destroy Pakistan.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 04:30 AM
QUOTE (Saqib @ Jan 31 2011, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That Zardari Kutta and Rehman Nai have already promised the release of this s.o.b. to americans. Zardari has also promised the american ambassador that even if the court convicts him of his crime he will get him a presidential pardon after his conviction.
On the other hand Nawaz Sharif has so far refused to budge over the demands of his release as the case is in the court now.
Yes the buck is now on his door but if he made any concession to these bloody yanks then he knows pretty well where his political future will go. I think he should have in mind the disastrous decision he made on Kargil in 1999 that was against the public sentiment.
On the other hand Nawaz Sharif has so far refused to budge over the demands of his release as the case is in the court now.
Yes the buck is now on his door but if he made any concession to these bloody yanks then he knows pretty well where his political future will go. I think he should have in mind the disastrous decision he made on Kargil in 1999 that was against the public sentiment.
keeping his track record Gunja might budge under pressure but being a shrewd businessman he might like to throw the ball in Zardari,s court after perusing the flawless case against the yankee boy.This is his political compulsion and he understands it too well
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 06:01 AM
No relief in Raymond Davis case: Shahbaz
Updated at 1420 PST Monday, January 31, 2011
LAHORE: Chief Minister Punjab Shahbaz Sharif Monday called on the provincial governor Lateef Khosa and vowed to redress the problems of masses amicably, Geo News reported.
Addressing a joint press conference following the meeting at the governor house, both the leaders pledged to work together by forgetting past.
Referring to US national Raymond Davis, Shahbaz Sharif said no one would be granted relief in Davis issue.
To a question, the chief minister stated that federal government has right to provide or not the diplomatic immunity to Raymond Davis.
Source: http://www.thenews.c...l.aspx?ID=10371
Updated at 1420 PST Monday, January 31, 2011
LAHORE: Chief Minister Punjab Shahbaz Sharif Monday called on the provincial governor Lateef Khosa and vowed to redress the problems of masses amicably, Geo News reported.
Addressing a joint press conference following the meeting at the governor house, both the leaders pledged to work together by forgetting past.
Referring to US national Raymond Davis, Shahbaz Sharif said no one would be granted relief in Davis issue.
To a question, the chief minister stated that federal government has right to provide or not the diplomatic immunity to Raymond Davis.
Source: http://www.thenews.c...l.aspx?ID=10371
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 06:41 AM
I am from Lahore and knows the roads very well, he was stying in american consulate which is next to Shimla Pahari and Abbot Road , if this killer has to go to bank to withdraw money why he traveled all the way to Qurtaba Chowk, where all the major and other banks are on Abbot Road & Davis Road which is also next street to american consulate.
any thoughts
any thoughts
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 08:01 AM
Lawyer calls for trial of US gunman
LAHORE: A Pakistani lawyer called Monday for an American who shot dead two men last week to stand trial for murder despite US legal claims of diplomatic immunity.
Local lawyer Saeed Zafar filed the petition under public interest laws, claiming that Raymond Davis must stand trial in Pakistan and should be blocked from being handed over to the US government.
The US embassy in Islamabad has claimed diplomatic immunity on behalf of Davis, described as a consulate employee, who is under investigation on double murder charges after shooting dead two motorcyclists in Lahore Thursday.
Pakistan’s courts have so far refused to release the gunman, who claims to have acted in self-defense to fend off an armed robbery.
The high court on Monday asked the government to respond to the petition.
A third Pakistani was crushed to death by a consulate car that went to help Davis following the shooting in a busy street in the eastern city.
“I filed the petition because… a passer by who narrowly escaped in the firing came to me and asked me to file a case,” Zafar said.
“Since two Pakistani men were killed and the third one died in the related accident, and panic was caused because of the actions of Raymond Davis, his trial should be held in Pakistan,” he said.
A court official said that the chief justice of provincial Lahore high court heard the case in his chamber and “issued notices” to the country’s top prosecutor to seek government advice and respond to the petition on Tuesday.
He also claimed that international law does not grant immunity from criminal prosecution, even if Davis is deemed to have diplomatic status.
Article 41 of the Vienna Convention states: “Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, except in the case of a grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority.”
The US embassy in a statement late Sunday reiterated its claim of diplomatic immunity, saying Davis – whose exact status has been unclear – was a member of the “technical and administrative staff” at the embassy.
“Article 37 of the Vienna Convention specifically extends the same criminal immunity that diplomats have to members of the ‘technical and administrative staff’ of an embassy,” it said.
Thursday’s incident sparked small protests across Pakistan on Friday.
http://www.dawn.com/...-us-gunman.html
LAHORE: A Pakistani lawyer called Monday for an American who shot dead two men last week to stand trial for murder despite US legal claims of diplomatic immunity.
Local lawyer Saeed Zafar filed the petition under public interest laws, claiming that Raymond Davis must stand trial in Pakistan and should be blocked from being handed over to the US government.
The US embassy in Islamabad has claimed diplomatic immunity on behalf of Davis, described as a consulate employee, who is under investigation on double murder charges after shooting dead two motorcyclists in Lahore Thursday.
Pakistan’s courts have so far refused to release the gunman, who claims to have acted in self-defense to fend off an armed robbery.
The high court on Monday asked the government to respond to the petition.
A third Pakistani was crushed to death by a consulate car that went to help Davis following the shooting in a busy street in the eastern city.
“I filed the petition because… a passer by who narrowly escaped in the firing came to me and asked me to file a case,” Zafar said.
“Since two Pakistani men were killed and the third one died in the related accident, and panic was caused because of the actions of Raymond Davis, his trial should be held in Pakistan,” he said.
A court official said that the chief justice of provincial Lahore high court heard the case in his chamber and “issued notices” to the country’s top prosecutor to seek government advice and respond to the petition on Tuesday.
He also claimed that international law does not grant immunity from criminal prosecution, even if Davis is deemed to have diplomatic status.
Article 41 of the Vienna Convention states: “Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, except in the case of a grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority.”
The US embassy in a statement late Sunday reiterated its claim of diplomatic immunity, saying Davis – whose exact status has been unclear – was a member of the “technical and administrative staff” at the embassy.
“Article 37 of the Vienna Convention specifically extends the same criminal immunity that diplomats have to members of the ‘technical and administrative staff’ of an embassy,” it said.
Thursday’s incident sparked small protests across Pakistan on Friday.
http://www.dawn.com/...-us-gunman.html
"The values we believe in are worth fighting for, they are in the ascendant, we should not be shy of giving our action, not just the force of self interest, but moral force, we must promote our values to ensure our long term security and prosperity but also because we are in the right. We must go further than smashing unfriendly regimes and hunting infidel in to the ground. We must also ensure that the governments and populations we allow to survive are convinced that our way is the high way. We must ensure that the Muslim college kids and school children and susceptible moderates steadily imbue tiny draughts of our values, we want them on our side before they are even aware that the war of values has began. We want them intoxicated". Tony Blair, April 2002.
''Victory is for those who endure the most''
''Victory is for those who endure the most''
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QUOTE (Tipu-786 @ Jan 31 2011, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am from Lahore and knows the roads very well, he was stying in american consulate which is next to Shimla Pahari and Abbot Road , if this killer has to go to bank to withdraw money why he traveled all the way to Qurtaba Chowk, where all the major and other banks are on Abbot Road & Davis Road which is also next street to american consulate.
any thoughts
any thoughts
Most likely he is an intelligence operative.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 10:21 AM
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if this killer has to go to bank to withdraw money why he traveled all the way to Qurtaba Chowk
The police have stated that his contention of accessing his account is false as NO US Citizen has bank accounts in the area.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 10:23 AM
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The police have stated that his contention of accessing his account is false as NO US Citizen has bank accounts in the area.
He was caught with a large amount of cash. Probably to pay for some bomb attack.
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Well, according to my source which i spoke to about an hour or so ago, claims that the 2 men who were murdered by this gora belonged to the ISI....
The source also revealed that Gardari has already bowed down infront of his masters and have agreed to let the gora free as soon as the people calm down and after the Egyptian/Tunisian revolution ends and things get back to normal.
According to the same source, gaddari has ensured his white/black masters that even if the court convicts the gora, gaddari will wave those sentences off with his special powers (welcome to the constitution of Pakistan) and until then the gora would be provided with all the luxuries of life and wont be sent to prison, but rather in a luxurious villa situated within Lahore Defense...
The source also revealed that Gardari has already bowed down infront of his masters and have agreed to let the gora free as soon as the people calm down and after the Egyptian/Tunisian revolution ends and things get back to normal.
According to the same source, gaddari has ensured his white/black masters that even if the court convicts the gora, gaddari will wave those sentences off with his special powers (welcome to the constitution of Pakistan) and until then the gora would be provided with all the luxuries of life and wont be sent to prison, but rather in a luxurious villa situated within Lahore Defense...
"The values we believe in are worth fighting for, they are in the ascendant, we should not be shy of giving our action, not just the force of self interest, but moral force, we must promote our values to ensure our long term security and prosperity but also because we are in the right. We must go further than smashing unfriendly regimes and hunting infidel in to the ground. We must also ensure that the governments and populations we allow to survive are convinced that our way is the high way. We must ensure that the Muslim college kids and school children and susceptible moderates steadily imbue tiny draughts of our values, we want them on our side before they are even aware that the war of values has began. We want them intoxicated". Tony Blair, April 2002.
''Victory is for those who endure the most''
''Victory is for those who endure the most''
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 10:35 AM
While we have the gora the police should do to him what Americans do to Muslims. Once he starts singing like a bird we will find out a lot of things about American terrorist operations in Pakistan.
Afterward he might commit suicide.
Afterward he might commit suicide.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 10:44 AM
^^ For those actions you need ''men'' with balls who possess the; courage, integrity, honesty, sincierety, devotion, etc some basics which are missing in our leaders.... Not just the leaders but those qualities are absent from our people aswell, otherwise there would've been no such leaders...
Time to face the truth; Pakistani people deserve such idiots , feudals and mafias who are sold out to their masters of the west... Because the nation itself (majority) are messed up and cant even think straight anymore... We cant even distinguish between whats right and wrong.... Our nation is worse than donkeys, believe me you....
Time to face the truth; Pakistani people deserve such idiots , feudals and mafias who are sold out to their masters of the west... Because the nation itself (majority) are messed up and cant even think straight anymore... We cant even distinguish between whats right and wrong.... Our nation is worse than donkeys, believe me you....
"The values we believe in are worth fighting for, they are in the ascendant, we should not be shy of giving our action, not just the force of self interest, but moral force, we must promote our values to ensure our long term security and prosperity but also because we are in the right. We must go further than smashing unfriendly regimes and hunting infidel in to the ground. We must also ensure that the governments and populations we allow to survive are convinced that our way is the high way. We must ensure that the Muslim college kids and school children and susceptible moderates steadily imbue tiny draughts of our values, we want them on our side before they are even aware that the war of values has began. We want them intoxicated". Tony Blair, April 2002.
''Victory is for those who endure the most''
''Victory is for those who endure the most''
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Faizan’s mother refuses to take blood money, seeks action against Raymond
Mother of Faizanur Rehman requested the Chief Justice of Pakistan on Monday to take notice of his son’s killing by American citizen Raymond Davis.
Talking in Dunya News programme Khari Baat, Faizan’s mother and brother Ubaidur Rehman said that they will forgive the blood of Faizan if US repatriates Dr. Aafia Siddiqi. She further said that she will not take blood money to forgive the killing of her son.
It is pertinent to note that Raymond Davis hit the motorcyclist Faizan with his car in an attempt to flee the scene after killing two men in Mazang chowk Lahore due to which Faizan was killed on the spot.
http://dunyanews.tv/...iNOaWQ9MTk0NjU=
Mother of Faizanur Rehman requested the Chief Justice of Pakistan on Monday to take notice of his son’s killing by American citizen Raymond Davis.
Talking in Dunya News programme Khari Baat, Faizan’s mother and brother Ubaidur Rehman said that they will forgive the blood of Faizan if US repatriates Dr. Aafia Siddiqi. She further said that she will not take blood money to forgive the killing of her son.
It is pertinent to note that Raymond Davis hit the motorcyclist Faizan with his car in an attempt to flee the scene after killing two men in Mazang chowk Lahore due to which Faizan was killed on the spot.
http://dunyanews.tv/...iNOaWQ9MTk0NjU=
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 11:17 PM
Time to throw all Americans out of Pakistan.
Throw their money back out with them.
Throw the F-16s out with them.
Throw out everything American and peace will prevail.
Throw their money back out with them.
Throw the F-16s out with them.
Throw out everything American and peace will prevail.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 11:29 PM
What's happening with the 'other' American who ran all the way home to the rest of the piggies, are they releasing the vehicle used in the vehicular homocide?
We should place all the murderous criminals under a watch, especially Americans should have to go through a finger-printing process when entering Pakistan, and mandatory reporting when they are leaving Pakistan. Give it a name, say Naseers.
We should place all the murderous criminals under a watch, especially Americans should have to go through a finger-printing process when entering Pakistan, and mandatory reporting when they are leaving Pakistan. Give it a name, say Naseers.
Hakim Bey: Don't just survive while waiting for someone's revolution to clear your head
Napoleon Bonaparte: The world suffers a lot, not because of the violence of bad people, but because of the silence of good people!
Napoleon Bonaparte: The world suffers a lot, not because of the violence of bad people, but because of the silence of good people!
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:04 AM
Najam Sethi has done a good analysis here:
http://www.youtube.c.../11/vU-oEz5C5zQ
http://www.youtube.c.../10/yDUHic441LU
http://www.youtube.c...u/9/XdF4ngL4P1k
His main points are:
1) He killed those men because they waved guns at him
2) The killer HAS diplomatic immunity by law
3) He was given that status with the full consent of the Pakistan government
4) The case has become political so the government is afraid to let him go
5) This guy is actually a Blackwater type operative and is a trained killer
6) Pakistan has a secret agreement with America to allow these people to operate
7) There are 60-70 more people like him in Pakistan. Karachi has the most
8) These people operate with the full knowledge and approval of the Pakistan government, military, ISI etc
9) These killers should NOT be allowed in Pakistan
No one comes out looking good in this - the Americans or the Pakistani government or the military. Only the Pakistani people are the victims.
http://www.youtube.c.../11/vU-oEz5C5zQ
http://www.youtube.c.../10/yDUHic441LU
http://www.youtube.c...u/9/XdF4ngL4P1k
His main points are:
1) He killed those men because they waved guns at him
2) The killer HAS diplomatic immunity by law
3) He was given that status with the full consent of the Pakistan government
4) The case has become political so the government is afraid to let him go
5) This guy is actually a Blackwater type operative and is a trained killer
6) Pakistan has a secret agreement with America to allow these people to operate
7) There are 60-70 more people like him in Pakistan. Karachi has the most
8) These people operate with the full knowledge and approval of the Pakistan government, military, ISI etc
9) These killers should NOT be allowed in Pakistan
No one comes out looking good in this - the Americans or the Pakistani government or the military. Only the Pakistani people are the victims.
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