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GENERAL
Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:29 AM
GENERAL
MAJOR GENERAL
Posted 28 June 2012 - 03:58 AM
GENERAL
Posted 28 June 2012 - 04:35 AM
MAJOR GENERAL
Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:31 AM
Pakistani GDP 2011: $211 Billion
GDP Growth 2011-2012: 3.7% (Estimate)
GDP Ranking: 47th (15th In Asia)
Pakistani Trade 2010-2011: $65.22 Billion
Trade With Neighbours: $16.7 Billion
China ($10B) | India ($2.7B) | Afghanistan ($2.5B) | Iran ($1.5B)
Trade With US/EU: $16.38 Billion
Trade with GCC: $16 Billion
Pakistani Mobile Phone Subscriptions: 118 million (2012)
Pakistani Internet Connections: 22 million (2012)
CAPTAIN
Posted 28 June 2012 - 07:13 PM
GENERAL
Posted 01 July 2012 - 03:44 AM
what happened to the TIGER evaluation ?
COLONEL
Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:34 PM
GENERAL
Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:22 PM
GENERAL
Posted 07 July 2012 - 06:34 PM
GENERAL
Posted 07 July 2012 - 10:09 PM
Most likely PAA will follow the same Hi-Low mix strategy that the PAF used (F-16/FC-20 and JF17) and that PA used (T-80UD and Al-Khalid/Al-Zarrar), which is to buy a few relatively expensive, but advanced platforms that will be complimented by a capable but relatively cheaper platform to make up for numbers.
I think I would be reasonable in proposing, that PAA could acquire a few T-129s that can be complimented by a larger number of WZ-19. I don't think PAA will buy the WZ-10 since that will be more expensive.
In addition, given that Pakistan has always enjoyed a good relationship with both Italy and Turkey, the T129 would be a logical choice for an advanced NATO standard attack helicopter.
I dont see Pakistan sticking with Chinese only that would be very unwise. The days of purchasing equipment from the West is not over, nor should be.
GENERAL
Posted 08 July 2012 - 12:06 AM
GENERAL
Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:43 AM
GENERAL
Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:55 AM
frankly, gunships are luxury weapons. We cannt afford to have them. And if we can afford them, we cannt use them. Lets grow some brain cells here, shell we?
- First identify your enemy capability
- secondly, identify your capability
Do the two of above things and you will get the reality. Pak V India is no US vs iraq or US vs vietnam. if the full war breaks, these choppers will fall from sky like flies. Have you guys not learn anything from afghanistan. Topping that, we have no air superiority to begin with.
But if we do stick with expensive toys like these, congratulation - you guys just provided enemy sam some good target practicing.
So what should we do...........simple.............have no choppers but if you really need them, have cheaper choppers.
GENERAL
Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:10 AM
frankly, gunships are luxury weapons. We cannt afford to have them. And if we can afford them, we cannt use them. Lets grow some brain cells here, shell we?
- First identify your enemy capability
- secondly, identify your capability
Do the two of above things and you will get the reality. Pak V India is no US vs iraq or US vs vietnam. if the full war breaks, these choppers will fall from sky like flies. Have you guys not learn anything from afghanistan. Topping that, we have no air superiority to begin with.
But if we do stick with expensive toys like these, congratulation - you guys just provided enemy sam some good target practicing.
So what should we do...........simple.............have no choppers but if you really need them, have cheaper choppers.
GENERAL
Posted 08 July 2012 - 07:52 AM
GENERAL
Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:07 AM
GENERAL
Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:30 AM
@blueazure47
BRIGADIER
Posted 13 July 2012 - 05:28 AM
u may like to add miles and miles of anti-tank ditches to these items, they are also well placed....like this one, bunkers every 100 m........... 29° 6'12.61"N 72° 5'22.54"EGreen
PA's fixed defences are enough to halt any armor pincers by india , there are literally hundreds of ATGM posts / pillboxes saturated with Baktar shikans to blunt any indian incursions , this is minus the 2200 + armored force ( T 80s , AKs , even T 59s have the L 56 105mm gun that is pretty potent against bulk indian T 72s ) . isnt it so ?
GENERAL
Posted 13 July 2012 - 05:37 AM
u may like to add miles and miles of anti-tank ditches to these items, they are also well placed....like this one, bunkers every 100 m........... 29° 6'12.61"N 72° 5'22.54"E
@blueazure47
BRIGADIER
Posted 13 July 2012 - 05:41 AM
yeah, generally it is like that, no doubt, layers of minefields and multiple DCBs (Ditch cum Bunds) pose a direct threat to any attacker, these things are made to stop an attack dead in its tracks and then the stranded force can be decimated by pre-registered artillery strikes....!panzer, if im not mistaken, both india and Pakistan have HEAVILY mined and have almost THREE layers of defensive lines in the most critical areas .of their borders , this is not counting arty and rear units ( with armor ) that will smash any incursion
after DMZ ( N/S korea ) , the pak - india border mush be the most heavily manned
GENERAL
Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:10 PM
yeah, generally it is like that, no doubt, layers of minefields and multiple DCBs (Ditch cum Bunds) pose a direct threat to any attacker, these things are made to stop an attack dead in its tracks and then the stranded force can be decimated by pre-registered artillery strikes....!
BRIGADIER
Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:25 PM
.....just like the Atlantic Wall, we will need ALOT of mines, concrete for gun emplacements, all kinds of obstacles, plus alot of manpower to man the beaches....or if u want to hav the beaches thinly held, then we need strong reserves to counter the main enemy landing once it has been identified, the second option wud also required dedicated AD support, because enemy air power would be such that it will interdict with our force movement towards the beaches.....What's the possibly of doing something like that along our shores so that an amphibious assault can be blunted and decimated in the same fashion? I am very seriously concerned about an amphibious assault from american and nato carrier task forces that mushy sold his soul to.
GENERAL
Posted 14 July 2012 - 01:44 AM
.....just like the Atlantic Wall, we will need ALOT of mines, concrete for gun emplacements, all kinds of obstacles, plus alot of manpower to man the beaches....or if u want to hav the beaches thinly held, then we need strong reserves to counter the main enemy landing once it has been identified, the second option wud also required dedicated AD support, because enemy air power would be such that it will interdict with our force movement towards the beaches.....
BRIGADIER
Posted 14 July 2012 - 02:55 AM
Sir, it always comes to the resources, and manpower and quality of leadership.....the ingredients to do anything in this world, if u have these things, u can wish anything.....and i believe we have them all in abundance, the point is to use them in a positive and constructive manner!I'm the cautiously aggressive type, so my choice would be to do all of the above.
GENERAL
Posted 20 October 2012 - 12:43 AM
frankly, gunships are luxury weapons. We cannt afford to have them. And if we can afford them, we cannt use them. Lets grow some brain cells here, shell we?
- First identify your enemy capability
- secondly, identify your capability
Do the two of above things and you will get the reality. Pak V India is no US vs iraq or US vs vietnam. if the full war breaks, these choppers will fall from sky like flies. Have you guys not learn anything from afghanistan. Topping that, we have no air superiority to begin with.
But if we do stick with expensive toys like these, congratulation - you guys just provided enemy sam some good target practicing.
So what should we do...........simple.............have no choppers but if you really need them, have cheaper choppers.
COLONEL
Posted 20 October 2012 - 05:40 AM
GENERAL
Posted 27 October 2012 - 12:03 PM
Admiral
Posted 28 October 2012 - 12:00 PM
I'm the cautiously aggressive type, so my choice would be to do all of the above.
GENERAL
Posted 17 November 2013 - 12:04 AM
GENERAL
Posted 17 November 2013 - 12:06 AM
BRIGADIER
GENERAL
Posted 21 November 2013 - 02:30 AM
...looking so cool....
i hope u mean the chopper, and aren't refering to ganja.
I've stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.
BRIGADIER
Posted 21 November 2013 - 08:35 AM
i hope u mean the chopper, and aren't refering to ganja.
ofcourse, his tind is only useful for ricocheting incoming small caliber bullets...
GENERAL
Posted 21 November 2013 - 10:13 AM
ofcourse, his tind is only useful for ricocheting incoming small caliber bullets...
ganja has stealth tind , and if you look closely t-129 air-intake is designed based on ganja ear's
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GENERAL
Posted 20 December 2013 - 01:01 PM
GENERAL
Posted 16 August 2014 - 11:17 AM
GENERAL
Posted 17 August 2014 - 12:12 AM
Pakistan to collaborate with Turkey on T-129
GENERAL
Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:03 AM
Hey Magnus, whatever happened to that T 129 gunship for Pakistan? Is it not happening anymore?
GENERAL
Posted 17 August 2014 - 08:20 AM
@Dizasta: PA was seeking joint production capability and yes US engine is an issue.
http://en.trend.az/n...cs/2201750.html
http://www.defensene..._sectionstories
There is a whole new discussion on UAVs like Predator versus gunships -(uavs being cheaper, quieter and without human casualties on cards). It would be interesting how time decides the victor between these two platforms.
Edited by Magnus, 17 August 2014 - 08:39 AM.
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