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[faizan khaliq]

So what if even we don't exist as Pakistanis anymore? Should we die then all together and cease to exist? Nay! What we were before 1947? Think beyond the man made boundries; nationalism is great but shouldn't be taken as god; this rcent territorial nationalism, mostly and not surprisingly starts right after WW2; ever wondered why?

You see the way things are moving, atleast I agree with you on one part; we as Pakistan has to suffer more, alot more, as per the indications we shall go further down ... but keeping our past in view, with very basic analysis you shall witness that we keep on moving; I mean to start with the earthquake and recent floods are prime examples

We are still there and standing tall!

What defines nations and people is how best they rise after falling

America will be there; it has many key stakeholders who won't allow her to go down completely; USA has to serve certain Israeli, religious and non-religious interests; till then USA has to breathe one way or another

kiya baat kartay ho yaar Pakistan will prevail and will expand and inshallah you will see it in your life time

[Pak-Eye]

kiya baat kartay ho yaar Pakistan will prevail and will expand and inshallah you will see it in your life time

Sure, Insha Allah it will exist

I was just making Ceaser understand that we Muslims cannot be demoralized like others in the absence or lack of nationalism, if it ever occurs God forbid

[clutch]

Here is my prediction--nothing will happen!

We will have the same corrupt government and the same corrupt system, and to think as if something INCREDIBLE will happen in 2 to 3 years times that will make these corrupt people lead the Muslims is childish.

I am making a note of this thread and other threads like this--and if we are all still alive in 2013 I will give a link to this thread as ask "WELL WHAT'S NEXT??"

+1 I agree

[HKK]

Can anyone explain why this upcoming Jihad is classed a "Gazwa". Gazwas are those Jihads in which Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) personally took part and fought against the enemies of Allah.

On separate note, one thing which caught my eye about the Hadees narrated by Hazart Abu Hurairah:

It is related to Hazrat Abu Hurairah(R.A) that Hazrat Muhammad(P.B.U.H.) talked about Hindustan(India) & said:

“Definitely, one of your troop would do a war with Hindustan, Allah would grant success to those warriors, as far as they would bring their kings by dragging them in chains / fetters. And Allah would forgive those warriors (by the Blessing of this great war). And when those Muslims would return, they would find Hazrat Isa Ibn-e-Maryam(A.S.) in Syria (Shaam)”.

Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) told that ‘if I could find that Ghazwa, then would sell all my new & old goods and would participate in it. When Allah (S.W.T.) granted us success & we returned, then I would be a free Abu Hurairah; who would come in the country of Syria with such a pride of finding Hazrat Isa (A.S.) over there. O Muhammad(P.B.U.H.) ! that time it would be my intense wish that by coming closer to Hazrat Isa(A.S.), I may tell him that I am the Sahabi of Muhammad(P.B.U.H.).
The narrator tells that Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) smiled & said: ‘very difficult, very difficult’.


Perhaps the part in red is in the reference of our armed forces committing sin by becoming mercenaries for america.

[Ababeel]

Can anyone explain why this upcoming Jihad is classed a "Gazwa". Gazwas are those Jihads in which Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) personally took part and fought against the enemies of Allah.

Please Look at post # 48 on this thread.

Link

[HKK]

Gora baba Barkat Ali lol.. Its funny. but even he is telling yanks to stay out of Pakistan..

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

[JANA]

Here is my prediction--nothing will happen!

We will have the same corrupt government and the same corrupt system, and to think as if something INCREDIBLE will happen in 2 to 3 years times that will make these corrupt people lead the Muslims is childish.

I am making a note of this thread and other threads like this--and if we are all still alive in 2013 I will give a link to this thread as ask "WELL WHAT'S NEXT??"

Rightly said. i dont see any major big change in 2013 or few years . the system will go on as we from top to bottom are corrupt.

But i think we should let this current govt complete its tenure and we will know the how much change has occurred after the result of next election


i personally feel with each election we get mature though not to a big extent but gradually and slowly that is what needed for reforming the system on long term basis instead of opting for abrupt military take overs direct or indirect of advocating street bloody revolution.