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Posted 18 November 2010 - 06:35 PM
they should always check my post, should never allow me to post unchecked or i will wreck havoc on this forum
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 10:08 AM
Musharraf was a demon of west and still is.

Musharraf started a civil war in Pakistan, he is responsible for hundreds if not thousands of innocent deaths. He hands are dripping with blood. In fact his entire body is drenched in innocent blood.
He sold several Pakistani citizens to america for dollars and is even proud of it! He sold the entire paskitani nation to americans, sold our sovereignty to keep his power, sold the kashmir cause down the drain , banned kashmiri mujahideen movement, all to keep his KURSI.
Who sold Afia siddiqui to the dogs? Who sold Muazzam Baig to the dogs and this is just to name a few.......
http://express.com.p....geno=10&View=1
He kidnapped hundreds of pakistanis and tortured them in his dungeons for months and years without any charges....
He put the cheif justice of Pakistan and even his kids under imprisonment. He kept over 60 Judges under imprisonment.... what was their crime again?
This is an act that is un-paralleled in the history of all dictators and despots , Can anyone tell me what was their crime?
And this is not even an exhaustive list of his crimes....there's a lot more.
Pakistan ka khuda hafiz hai.

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 10:23 AM
So dont be disappointed with your leaders they are what you are.
Its never the machine but the MAN itself.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 10:25 AM
Musharraf was a demon of west and still is.

Musharraf started a civil war in Pakistan, he is responsible for hundreds if not thousands of innocent deaths. He hands are dripping with blood. In fact his entire body is drenched in innocent blood.
He sold several Pakistani citizens to america for dollars and is even proud of it! He sold the entire paskitani nation to americans, sold our sovereignty to keep his power, sold the kashmir cause down the drain , banned kashmiri mujahideen movement, all to keep his KURSI.
Who sold Afia siddiqui to the dogs? Who sold Muazzam Baig to the dogs and this is just to name a few.......
http://express.com.p....geno=10&View=1
He kidnapped hundreds of pakistanis and tortured them in his dungeons for months and years without any charges....
He put the cheif justice of Pakistan and even his kids under imprisonment. He kept over 60 Judges under imprisonment.... what was their crime again?
This is an act that is un-paralleled in the history of all dictators and despots , Can anyone tell me what was their crime?
And this is not even an exhaustive list of his crimes....there's a lot more.
Pakistan ka khuda hafiz hai.

Aur meri jan ye kursi chez he aesi hai ke koi bhe ho ye sab karta hai. Ye baki sab jo us ko galiyan de rhe hain na, ye bhe koi haji sab ni hain, given the chance they themselve would have done it.
Its never the machine but the MAN itself.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 11:33 AM
So a party shall be created by recruiting members from all over the world, but being a Pakistani by blood shall be a necessary requirement...
Nothing against the Pakistani people here, although i believe that they have failed to bring any change what so ever...
But then again, having said that, those voters are still going to be the Pakistani public, isnt it?
I dont know when would these jahils living here would ever wake up..........
''Victory is for those who endure the most''
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:00 PM
Lal Masjid operation was rightly done and they deserved it. And yes no innocent people are killed alright. Only bloody militants who KILLED our 14 SSG brave commandoes were killed.
"Nawab" Bugti was an anti-state element who, with his RAW backed BLA and BRA was challenging the writ of government. I am glad that ba$tard is killed. And besides plz num_nuts get your facts straight. "Nawab" Bugti blew himself up when he refused to hand himself to Pak army.
Having said all this Mushy was NOT an INFALLIBLE leader (NO ONE IS). Everyone makes mistakes. But the difference is that Mushy made some HONEST mistakes and he has already apologized for NRO.
And besides it is the PUBLIC of Pakistan who elected these PML-N and PPP jokers. Quit blaming Mushy for that. Mushy did wonders for Pakistan and he was one of the best leaders we ever had!
Allah kee lanaat hoh on this type of "democracy". WHO gives a bloody FCUUK if 2/3 people elected a DICTATOR in the shape of nawaz shariff. If people who elect YAZID on more than 2/3 majority, then that SHOULD not stop PATRIOTIC army to overthrow this lantee Nawaz shariff who had made Pakistan a FAILED state in 1999.
LONG LIVE our Mushy! Quite beating the same old drums of "these leaders were democratically elected"! They were democratically elected DICTATORS and Army has every right to take out Lantee Nawaz league and PPP because they have continuously ruined our country!
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:09 PM
Lal Masjid operation was rightly done and they deserved it. And yes no innocent people are killed alright. Only bloody militants who KILLED our 14 SSG brave commandoes were killed.
"Nawab" Bugti was an anti-state element who, with his RAW backed BLA and BRA was challenging the writ of government. I am glad that ba$tard is killed. And besides plz num_nuts get your facts straight. "Nawab" Bugti blew himself up when he refused to hand himself to Pak army.
Having said all this Mushy was NOT an INFALLIBLE leader (NO ONE IS). Everyone makes mistakes. But the difference is that Mushy made some HONEST mistakes and he has already apologized for NRO.
And besides it is the PUBLIC of Pakistan who elected these PML-N and PPP jokers. Quit blaming Mushy for that. Mushy did wonders for Pakistan and he was one of the best leaders we ever had!
Allah kee lanaat hoh on this type of "democracy". WHO gives a bloody FCUUK if 2/3 people elected a DICTATOR in the shape of nawaz shariff. If people who elect YAZID on more than 2/3 majority, then that SHOULD not stop PATRIOTIC army to overthrow this lantee Nawaz shariff who had made Pakistan a FAILED state in 1999.
LONG LIVE our Mushy! Quite beating the same old drums of "these leaders were democratically elected"! They were democratically elected DICTATORS and Army has every right to take out Lantee Nawaz league and PPP because they have continuously ruined our country!
you anger on side ..... i didnt know that nawaz da ganga

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:27 PM

bro Mushy support is even on Mars.
Didn't u see the polls. After Imran Khan Mushy is number 2. People still like him and people of Pakistan still miss him.
Nawaz/shabaz/Zardari etc all had practically got no votes.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:30 PM
- I attended Woodbine Convention Centre yesterday where former president of Pakistan Pervaiz Musharraf addressed a crowd.
- The gathering was suppose to be for 500 guests by invitation only but 900+ showed up.
- There were also 15-20 Imran khan kay chicoaray outside for 10-15 minutes freezing and holding banners.
- Police was also there.
- No cell phones or gadgets were allowed inside.
- Usual economic performance.
- Apology for NRO. His reasoning was that he didnt belive (miscalculated) that people of Pakistan would actually vote PPP or PML back to power.
- Stood by his right decision to launch an operation against the Lal masjid terrorists.
- Intends to go back to Pakistan soon.
- Ridiculed the cases against him as politically motivated and baseless.
- Definitely will be in Pakistan before the elections !
Edited later: I am officially a member of APML now.

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:35 PM
Didn't u see the polls. After Imran Khan Mushy is number 2. People still like him and people of Pakistan still miss him.
Nawaz/shabaz/Zardari etc all had practically got no votes.
anyway i dont want to go it any argument or detail, coz of simple fact our awam will again choose the same drum beater as it happen in past ....... ppp again and gain like family business , ML same $hit as well ....... mushy gee just finding a master who will pay him better ( higher bidder) .....
i am out of this discussion .... Allah nigehbaan
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:45 PM
- I attended Woodbine Convention Centre yesterday where former president of Pakistan Pervaiz Musharraf addressed a crowd.
- The gathering was suppose to be for 500 guests by invitation only but 900+ showed up.
- There were also 15-20 Imran khan kay chicoaray outside for 10-15 minutes freezing and holding banners.
- Police was also there.
- No cell phones or gadgets were allowed inside.
- Usual economic performance.
- Apology for NRO. His reasoning was that he didnt belive (miscalculated) that people of Pakistan would actually vote PPP or PML back to power.
- Stood by his right decision to launch an operation against the Lal masjid terrorists.
- Intends to go back to Pakistan soon.
- Ridiculed the cases against him as politically motivated and baseless.
- Definitely will be in Pakistan before the elections !
Edited later: I am officially a member of APML now.

Naraiii Haideriii!
YAH ALI!
Simply amazing! Thank you my brother for reporting this! Your reporting proves that MUSHY the GREAT is still VERY VERY popular amongst people who have some BRAINS left!
On the other than ignorant and uneducated masses of Pakistan still are worshiping their gods like lantee Nawaz/Shabaz, Zardari.
People who have brains and analyze the Pakistani situation objectively are supporting Mushy!
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 02:12 PM
Bro just to shut you up PLZ (for GOD sake) plz watch these mini videos and OPEN your eyes. Have enough patience and PLZ watch all of these videos.
Just look what Abdul Sattar says about our great Musharraf:
look what Javed Chaudry says about Mushy's economic achievements: http://www.youtube.c.../27/ehohg5eFySU
Look what Baba jee says about Musharraf (Mushy was friend of poor people). This is LATEST from Pakistan: http://www.youtube.c...u/2/Dj-aPkdqOow
Kamran Khan on Mushy: http://www.youtube.c...u/7/J-nt_agP68Q
Hypocracy of journalists on Lal masjid: http://www.youtube.c.../40/hNu7oJ-TS5A
Hassan Nisar admits that Mushy was indeed VERY VERY good for Pakistan: http://www.youtube.c.../44/zlUPTeFJfLk
What Lucman says about Musharraf: http://www.youtube.c.../42/InMW7cMYCzs
(Start at 2:30 minutes and onwards and just SEE with ur EYES OPEN what he achieved for Pakistan. These economic numbers are NOT fake. The hold world recognized them: http://www.youtube.c...u/1/bKtRJ-gfNrs
[color="#FF0000"]Watch this whole video and C with your eyes what he did for the Nation. : http://www.youtube.c...u/0/yMpY_epvcsI
Bro listen to the REAL truth from Horse's mouth. This SSG commando was the MAJOR who led the assault: This is the REALITY of LAL Masjid. There were NO innocent people who died in LAL MASJID. Media LIES to u and u people trust the IDIOTIC media and terrorists instead of SSG commandos who LED the assault. Shame on u guys: http://www.youtube.c.../12/3dP2qkSymhU
AND bro these are just FEW videos that praise Mushy. I can bring u 1000s OF MORE! But these ought to be enough to end your arguments.
Educated people of Pakistan or Pakistanis who are living abroad....who tend NOT to be EMOTIONAL and analyze things OBJECTIVELY have always and continue to support Mushy:
We WANT MUSHY back! Long live Mushy and may Allah bless him for his GREAT services for Pakistan:
You guys have NO idea what Pakistan has lost by losing such a great leader!
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 02:26 PM
MQM stood by their actions on that sad day of may 12th, ppp for stood by by their selection of future and present chairmen, Nawaz stood by his decision of getting over CJ head.
Edited by sobank, 19 November 2010 - 02:28 PM.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 03:35 PM
Lal Masjid operation was rightly done and they deserved it. And yes no innocent people are killed alright. Only bloody militants who KILLED our 14 SSG brave commandoes were killed.
"Nawab" Bugti was an anti-state element who, with his RAW backed BLA and BRA was challenging the writ of government. I am glad that ba$tard is killed. And besides plz num_nuts get your facts straight. "Nawab" Bugti blew himself up when he refused to hand himself to Pak army.
Having said all this Mushy was NOT an INFALLIBLE leader (NO ONE IS). Everyone makes mistakes. But the difference is that Mushy made some HONEST mistakes and he has already apologized for NRO.
And besides it is the PUBLIC of Pakistan who elected these PML-N and PPP jokers. Quit blaming Mushy for that. Mushy did wonders for Pakistan and he was one of the best leaders we ever had!
Allah kee lanaat hoh on this type of "democracy". WHO gives a bloody FCUUK if 2/3 people elected a DICTATOR in the shape of nawaz shariff. If people who elect YAZID on more than 2/3 majority, then that SHOULD not stop PATRIOTIC army to overthrow this lantee Nawaz shariff who had made Pakistan a FAILED state in 1999.
LONG LIVE our Mushy! Quite beating the same old drums of "these leaders were democratically elected"! They were democratically elected DICTATORS and Army has every right to take out Lantee Nawaz league and PPP because they have continuously ruined our country!
Am no Nawaz or Shahbaz or Zardari lover, but ur desperation is on display here. Making fun of urself by acting as an Hindu idol worshipper 'monkey' Musharraf.
Musharraf KILLED MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PASTHUNS AND PATHANS IN THE HISTORY OF Pakistan. Everyone knows he is a murder of Baloch too.
You seem to be HURT and Jealous. You are acting like a blood hound mental case. Ur desperation show is allover here that is u r empty from inside and weak RAT. Mods can look to ban a stupid crazy like u and u have been 'reported' mr Musharraf pagwan prayer Hindu idol worshiper.
Are u another MQMer who in disguise working for APML - All Pakistan Musharraf League ?
1. Musharraf is labeled a western agents (everyone else is a paragon of virtue and a patriot.)
2. His past is haunting him politically (PM/army)
3. PM is slave and a killer of Pakistanis.
4. Musharraf is a failure and will be a failure, he doesnot have any big vote bank so keep crying until 2020.
5. Musharraf the DOG ran away to LONDON, to its MASTERS place.
Musharraf had 6 years to find a decent solution to the problem in FATA / KP and he failed in it completely mainly because of his lack of backbone against even an ounce of american pressure. (Sellouts rarely have a choice).
Each time there was any effort of talks , it was burried by a single frown from washington. Those quarter-hearted talks were nothing but stupid excuse of 'Muzakarat'.
Infact, while there were many inside the army who wanted to resolve it with talks, it was musharraf whose stubbornness sabotaged any talks.
Infact Corps commander peshawar Gen. Safdar made a lot of effort in this regard.
Remember the incident where an agreement was to be signed and hours before there was an american drone strike (that killed nearly 80 people), and all talks were off after that...
What did musharraf do on that occassion? Did he make any serious efforts to redeem the situation? What was his duty on that occassion as a head of state? You tell me?
Instead he turned round and claimed that it was not an american strike but that it was done by Pakistan ARMED FORCES!!
In short musharraf sabotaged any and all efforts by his own generals to any peacefull or even semi-peacefull solution.
MUSHARRAF IS THE MURDERER OF Pakistani SOLDIERS of PAK ARMY
Hamid_Mirro and the likes of you are nothing but SLAVES and PUPPETS of Musharraf. What do u get from him in personal ? - NOTHING
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 03:57 PM
In the Video:
Musharaf A Coward Former Chief of Army Staff made allegations that Dr Qadeer Is Characterless But Dr aq khan said Musharaf is himself is characterless,He accepted line of control of Kashmir as international Border,He handed over jackob abad and Pasni air bases to America,He made plan to kill chief ustice ifikhar Muhammed Chaudhry . A Culprit Musharaf is wanted for his criminal blunders
Musharraf Abused in Dunya tv live flood relief telethon :
Pervez Musharraf vs Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW6h7MsJf6s
Musharraf visibly shaken:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DZgTuJ9vRw
[b]Musharraf and Miss Pakistan on AAJ TAK NEWS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL05bzf8jSg
OMG!!! - Musharraf Calls Army Chief Pervez Kiyani Characterless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z1yuaiItOQ
Baloch leader's Rs 1bn reward for Musharraf head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1-Dr98eYpc
Feudals & Landlords Of Pakistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz5OBHIYf30
Musharraf an Army man has bought 50 Acres of Land in Bahawalpur, Do you know that about this CRIME and LOOT ?
Hopefully this will be enough to make u go back to ur hole where u came from and take the moorti of Musharraf along u.


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Posted 19 November 2010 - 04:15 PM
In the Video:
Musharaf A Coward Former Chief of Army Staff made allegations that Dr Qadeer Is Characterless But Dr aq khan said Musharaf is himself is characterless,He accepted line of control of Kashmir as international Border,He handed over jackob abad and Pasni air bases to America,He made plan to kill chief ustice ifikhar Muhammed Chaudhry . A Culprit Musharaf is wanted for his criminal blunders
Musharraf Abused in Dunya tv live flood relief telethon :
Pervez Musharraf vs Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW6h7MsJf6s
Musharraf visibly shaken:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DZgTuJ9vRw
[b]Musharraf and Miss Pakistan on AAJ TAK NEWS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL05bzf8jSg
OMG!!! - Musharraf Calls Army Chief Pervez Kiyani Characterless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z1yuaiItOQ
Baloch leader's Rs 1bn reward for Musharraf head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1-Dr98eYpc
Feudals & Landlords Of Pakistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz5OBHIYf30
Musharraf an Army man has bought 50 Acres of Land in Bahawalpur, Do you know that about this CRIME and LOOT ?
Hopefully this will be enough to make u go back to ur hole where u came from and take the moorti of Musharraf along u.


Bro these are simply JUST personal attacks that you are throwing at Mushy's character!
SHOW ME FACTS as far as how he DID NOT do anything for the country! Showing me videos of what AQ Khan says about Mushy, and what this guy or that guy says about Mushy WILL NOT HELP!
Please try to PROVE, if you can, if Mushy was bad for Pakistan. HIS BIGGEST ACHIEVEMENTS were ECONOMIC progress and HELPING the poor people of Pakistan and this is the ultimate aim of ANY leader...irrespective of demoCRAZY or army rule.
U r simply showing videos of AQ KHAN or idiot Jamali bashing Mushy. This DOES NOT HELP IN PROVING ANYTHING. These are simply personal attacks.
PROVE to me if he was CORRUPT or if he did not do anything for the people of Pakistan. IF (and that is a big if) if he was corrupt, then these bloody PML-N and PPP parties would have already made corruption cases against him.
I gave you economic facts. AND PLEASE do not change the topic.
Talk to me about the realities of Pakistani economy, LAL-Masjid Ops etc. I AM NOT INTERESTED in what he OR she said about Mushy.
THIS shows the level of OBJECTIVITY that you have! SImply going to utube and bringing in videos of what AQ KHAN said about Mushy or waht idiot Jamali said about Mushy is not OBJECTIVITY!
GROW UP! You seem like a school boy.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 04:42 PM
SHOW ME FACTS as far as how he DID NOT do anything for the country! Showing me videos of what AQ Khan says about Mushy, and what this guy or that guy says about Mushy WILL NOT HELP!
Please try to PROVE, if you can, if Mushy was bad for Pakistan. HIS BIGGEST ACHIEVEMENTS were ECONOMIC progress and HELPING the poor people of Pakistan and this is the ultimate aim of ANY leader...irrespective of demoCRAZY or army rule.
U r simply showing videos of AQ KHAN or idiot Jamali bashing Mushy. This DOES NOT HELP IN PROVING ANYTHING. These are simply personal attacks.
PROVE to me if he was CORRUPT or if he did not do anything for the people of Pakistan. IF (and that is a big if) if he was corrupt, then these bloody PML-N and PPP parties would have already made corruption cases against him.
I gave you economic facts. AND PLEASE do not change the topic.
Talk to me about the realities of Pakistani economy, LAL-Masjid Ops etc. I AM NOT INTERESTED in what he OR she said about Mushy.
THIS shows the level of OBJECTIVITY that you have! SImply going to utube and bringing in videos of what AQ KHAN said about Mushy or waht idiot Jamali said about Mushy is not OBJECTIVITY!
GROW UP! You seem like a school boy.
Okay here comes FACTS:
After Musharraf left Uniform and defeat in 2008 there was massive loot of economy by MQM and PML-Q ministers Musharraff party members. Now the loot and rape is going on with PPP and PMLN thugs dog feudals and jagirdars. They all are HARAMIS man, Donot you see there is no FEAUDAL or AGRICULTURAL TAX, there is no MILITARY TAX . ALL TAXES are on put on SALARIED PPL.
Musharraf KILLED MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PASTHUNS AND PATHANS IN THE HISTORY OF Pakistan. Everyone knows he is a murder of Baloch too (War on Terror Evidence /Facts)
Musharraf is confirmed a labeled western agent (FACT - SEE Mushy's BOOT LICKING for WESTERN PRESS)
Musharraf the DOG ran away to LONDON, to its MASTERS place. (Another FACT)
Musharraf had 6 years to find a decent solution to the problem in FATA / KP and he failed in it completely mainly because of his lack of backbone against even an ounce of american pressure. (Sellouts rarely have a choice). (Another FACT)
Each time there was any effort of talks , it was burried by a single frown from washington. Those quarter-hearted talks were nothing but stupid excuse of 'Muzakarat'.
Infact, while there were many inside the army who wanted to resolve it with talks, it was musharraf whose stubbornness sabotaged any talks.
Infact Corps commander peshawar Gen. Safdar made a lot of effort in this regard.
Remember the incident where an agreement was to be signed and hours before there was an american drone strike (that killed nearly 80 people), and all talks were off after that...
What did musharraf do on that occassion? Did he make any serious efforts to redeem the situation? What was his duty on that occassion as a head of state? You tell me?
Instead he turned round and claimed that it was not an american strike but that it was done by Pakistan ARMED FORCES!!
In short musharraf sabotaged any and all efforts by his own generals to any peacefull or even semi-peacefull solution.
MUSHARRAF IS THE MURDERER OF Pakistani SOLDIERS of PAK ARMY (FACT 2000+ soldiers killed)
ARMY itself is now another biggest corrupt state in Pakistan.Look at the purchases of equipment they make for loot and rape of money by generals and soldiers.
They are just fooling Pakistani nation (Another FACT)
It was MUSHARRAF who signed the NRO EVIL Deal to bring the CORRUPT ASSES of ZARDARI AND NAWAZ ON Pakistan.
Want more FACTS:
Musharraf started a civil war in Pakistan, he is responsible for hundreds if not thousands of innocent deaths. He hands are dripping with blood. In fact his entire body is drenched in innocent blood.
He sold several Pakistani citizens to america for dollars and is even proud of it! He sold the entire paskitani nation to americans, sold our sovereignty to keep his power, sold the kashmir cause down the drain , banned kashmiri mujahideen movement, all to keep his KURSI.
Who sold Afia siddiqui to the dogs? Who sold Muazzam Baig to the dogs and this is just to name a few.......
http://express.com.p....geno=10&View=1
He kidnapped hundreds of pakistanis and tortured them in his dungeons for months and years without any charges....
He put the cheif justice of Pakistan and even his kids under imprisonment. He kept over 60 Judges under imprisonment.... what was their crime again?
This is an act that is un-paralleled in the history of all dictators and despots.
The LAL MAJID OPS COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER HANDLED THAN HAVING OUR 14 SSG Killed. LAL MAjid Ops became reason for START of Suicide FIRE. It FLAMED EVERYTHING.
Do u remember the 'boxing Mukkas' shown when so many ppl were in Karachi by MQM thugs.
The big EMERGENCY was put by MUSHARRAF and his old ARMY puppets. (FACT)
Hamid_Mirro and the likes of you are nothing but SLAVES and PUPPETS of Musharraf. What do u get from him in personal ? - NOTHING
I ask you what Pakistan citizens and people get out of these evil thats happening. Its all based on lie and fraud. What benefit normal Pakistani get ?
We want new leadership and young pakistanis come up, these ppl in power are all corrupt, looters cheap and sick to the core. REVOLUTION is the right way.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:10 PM
After Musharraf left in 2007 there was massive loot of economy by MQM and PML-Q ministers Musharraff party members. Now the loot and rape is going on with PPP and PMLN thugs dog feudals and jagirdars. They all are HARAMIS man, Donot you see there is no FEAUDAL or AGRICULTURAL TAX, there is no MILITARY TAX . ALL TAXES are on put on SALARIED PPL.
Musharraf KILLED MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PASTHUNS AND PATHANS IN THE HISTORY OF Pakistan. Everyone knows he is a murder of Baloch too (War on Terror Evidence /Facts)
Musharraf is confirmed a labeled western agent (FACT - SEE Mushy's BOOT LICKING for WESTERN PRESS)
Musharraf the DOG ran away to LONDON, to its MASTERS place. (Another FACT)
Musharraf had 6 years to find a decent solution to the problem in FATA / KP and he failed in it completely mainly because of his lack of backbone against even an ounce of american pressure. (Sellouts rarely have a choice). (Another FACT)
Each time there was any effort of talks , it was burried by a single frown from washington. Those quarter-hearted talks were nothing but stupid excuse of 'Muzakarat'.
Infact, while there were many inside the army who wanted to resolve it with talks, it was musharraf whose stubbornness sabotaged any talks.
Infact Corps commander peshawar Gen. Safdar made a lot of effort in this regard.
Remember the incident where an agreement was to be signed and hours before there was an american drone strike (that killed nearly 80 people), and all talks were off after that...
What did musharraf do on that occassion? Did he make any serious efforts to redeem the situation? What was his duty on that occassion as a head of state? You tell me?
Instead he turned round and claimed that it was not an american strike but that it was done by Pakistan ARMED FORCES!!
In short musharraf sabotaged any and all efforts by his own generals to any peacefull or even semi-peacefull solution.
MUSHARRAF IS THE MURDERER OF Pakistani SOLDIERS of PAK ARMY (FACT 2000+ soldiers killed)
ARMY itself is now another biggest corrupt state in Pakistan.Look at the purchases of equipment they make for loot and rape of money by generals and soldiers.
They are just fooling Pakistani nation (Another FACT)
It was MUSHARRAF who signed the NRO EVIL Deal to bring the CORRUPT ASSES of ZARDARI AND NAWAZ ON Pakistan.
Want more FACTS:
Musharraf started a civil war in Pakistan, he is responsible for hundreds if not thousands of innocent deaths. He hands are dripping with blood. In fact his entire body is drenched in innocent blood.
He sold several Pakistani citizens to america for dollars and is even proud of it! He sold the entire paskitani nation to americans, sold our sovereignty to keep his power, sold the kashmir cause down the drain , banned kashmiri mujahideen movement, all to keep his KURSI.
Who sold Afia siddiqui to the dogs? Who sold Muazzam Baig to the dogs and this is just to name a few.......
http://express.com.p....geno=10&View=1
He kidnapped hundreds of pakistanis and tortured them in his dungeons for months and years without any charges....
He put the cheif justice of Pakistan and even his kids under imprisonment. He kept over 60 Judges under imprisonment.... what was their crime again?
This is an act that is un-paralleled in the history of all dictators and despots.
The LAL MAJID OPS COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER HANDLED THAN HAVING OUR 14 SSG Killed. LAL MAjid Ops became reason for START of Suicide FIRE. It FLAMED EVERYTHING.
Hamid_Mirro and the likes of you are nothing but SLAVES and PUPPETS of Musharraf. What do u get from him in personal ? - NOTHING
I ask you what Pakistan citizens and people get out of these evil thats happening. Its all based on lie and fraud. What benefit normal Pakistani get ?
We want new leadership and young pakistanis come up, these ppl in power are all corrupt, looters cheap and sick to the core. REVOLUTION is the right way.
I have some serious disagreements with your points, but my entire thesis is based on the mantra that ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID! If people of ANY nation are not prospering, then NOTHING can become better. And it is A PROVEN fact, beyond any DOUBT, that Mushy did SOOOOOOOOOO much for the economics and for the betterment of common man like these guys (these are the LATEST emotions of common man of Pakistan):
http://www.youtube.c...u/2/Dj-aPkdqOow
I REST MY CASE! The POOR people and common man liked Mushy because he was making the ECONOMY of Pakistan better and exponentially better. EVERYTHING is related to economy. If economy is bad, then NOTHING is GOOD!
ok so basically u r waiting for Imam Mahdi (A.S.)!!! Bro this is NOT happening!
The only logical choice is to choose leaders who are LESSER of the two evils! And bro Mushy is way way way way way less EVIL than all the A HOLES combined!
Although I have severe disagreements with Imran Khan....I still would support his struggle to come to power....BUT the fact is that Imran Khan simply CANNOT COME TO POWER since the most evil parties like PML-N and PPP are in power!
BRO I would recommend u PLZ STOP bad mouthing the armed forces of Pakistan! They are the ONLY and LAST line of defense left for Pakistan. So bad mouthing them is NOT smart.
I believe in objectivity and HARDCORE analysis of FACTS! The economic facts and prosperity of COMMON MAN that occurred under Mushy is simply UNMATCHED! As long as ANY entity in Pakistan is making the ECONOMY of that country better, then I am with him. It is the COMMON man's prosperity that matters and Mushy simply defeated everyone when it comes to serving the COMMON MAN! Any good government is that which serves the PEOPLE of that country and helps them to prosper! I leave you with Clinton's famous election winning mantra: Its the ECONOMY STUPID and Mushy did exactly that! That is why he is the MOST logical & OBJECTIVE (and NOT an emotional) choice!
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He may done some good things but overall a FAILURE. And these PPP, PMLN Feudal, Zamindar is bigger incompetent FAILURE and Corrupt looter to the core. Analyse the life in Pakistan now. Everything is expensive, even the judicary is a failing now.
Some other FACTs :
Musharraf said, Ghauris missile donot work just because of his vendatta with AQK, he doesnot need to give reckless statements.
Mushy said Nuclear weapons are in tubes and tunnels etc, he doesnot need to give bad statement against Armed Forces.
Do u remember the boxing Mukkas shown when so many ppl were in murdered in Karachi by MQM thugs.
The big EMERGENCY was put by MUSHARRAF and his old ARMY puppets. (FACT)
Am no waiting for Imam Ali..am waiting for young and old youth to come out and capture ISLAMABAD PARLIAMENT and Start a new Government based on Islam. And that is what is Revolution and a Solution. They must finish this garbage of people.
It is upto u to ran away and rest ur case. The link u send is APML utube (All Pakistan Musharraf League).
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He may done some good things but overall a FAILURE. And these PPP, PMLN Feudal, Zamindar is bigger incompetent FAILURE and Corrupt looter to the core. Analyse the life in Pakistan now. Everything is expensive, even the judicary is a failing now.
Some other FACTs :
Musharraf said, Ghauris missile donot work just because of his vendatta with AQK, he doesnot need to give reckless statements.
Mushy said Nuclear weapons are in tubes and tunnels etc, he doesnot need to give bad statement against Armed Forces.
Do u remember the boxing Mukkas shown when so many ppl were in murdered in Karachi by MQM thugs.
The big EMERGENCY was put by MUSHARRAF and his old ARMY puppets. (FACT)
Am no waiting for Imam Ali..am waiting for young and old youth to come out and capture ISLAMABAD PARLIAMENT and Start a new Government based on Islam. And that is what is Revolution and a Solution. They must finish this garbage of people.
It is upto u to ran away and rest ur case. The link u send is APML utube (All Pakistan Musharraf League).
Your analysis on economics is VERY faulty. TRUST ME. Plz give me some facts that may back this up.
Good luck with bringing in the revolution led by the youths of Pakistan (Iran's revolution model when Irani young youth rose up in 1979). IT simply is NOT happening! You, your children and their children will continued to be governed by PML-N and PPP dynasties.
I hope I DID NOT end your wet dream of bringing a revolution. The only solution is MILITARY coup that kills all corrupt politicians and eliminates that Feudal system....and even this I DO NOT FORESEE happening.
btw....yes I took that utube link from Mushy utube channel....but the CHANNAL is express news and the host is Javed Chaudry. So this clip is NOT at all MUSHY funded or APML members. These are common people of Pakistan.
GOOD LUCK with DREAMING of bringing in the revolution. It ain't happening! You say economy is not everything...you are VERY wrong. Economy is the BACKBONE of ANY country. You fix economy, then terrorism, poverty, illiteracy and social injustices disappear very quickly. Just why the heck do u think Western Nations, and countries like Japan are so bloody prosperous and social infrastructure is so good.
I am sorry but u are SO wrong when it comes to criticizing the armed forces of Pakistan. It is the ONLY entity that keeps your borders protected! Otherwise India would have eaten Pakistan a long time ago.
btw it is NOT Imam Ali...but Imam Mahdi (A.S.) who u are waiting for!
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:48 PM
- I attended Woodbine Convention Centre yesterday where former president of Pakistan Pervaiz Musharraf addressed a crowd.
- The gathering was suppose to be for 500 guests by invitation only but 900+ showed up.
- There were also 15-20 Imran khan kay chicoaray outside for 10-15 minutes freezing and holding banners.
- Police was also there.
- No cell phones or gadgets were allowed inside.
- Usual economic performance.
- Apology for NRO. His reasoning was that he didnt belive (miscalculated) that people of Pakistan would actually vote PPP or PML back to power.
- Stood by his right decision to launch an operation against the Lal masjid terrorists.
- Intends to go back to Pakistan soon.
- Ridiculed the cases against him as politically motivated and baseless.
- Definitely will be in Pakistan before the elections !
Edited later: I am officially a member of APML now.

HE CAME TO UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN AND TRUST ME THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE HOLDING THEIR SHOES IN THEIR HAND FOR HIS RECEPTION.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:53 PM
we have to wait till end of this'' war on whatever '' to evaluate and analyze his role whether his NAIK OR KHALNAIK
let him try his luck though I doubt very much that barring Karachi or hydarabad he can secure his Bail.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:53 PM
probably supporters of lantee Nawaz league or PPP idiots!
This is just ONE of the many examples of how us Pakistanis r so pathetically dumb. They have suffered Allah's azaab by electing PML-N twice and PPP twice and still idiots of Pakistan in America support Nawaz or Zardari.
I am glad Allah is punishing people of Pakistan for being so idiotic!
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:57 PM
I do not believe you !
Honestly, I would have believed you had I not seen PERSONALLY the love and affection of the people for him last night. People were just going crazy for him
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Good to foresee an Army takeover with a new technocratic Govt. as an alternative option in 6 months time. We want EDUCATED ppl in GOVERNMENT and not these Evil Feudals, Zamindars, Jagirdars of MQM, PPP and PMLN.
PPL on streets and young taking the parliament is the right thing to do...basic job is to finish these corrupts and looters.
Bro some more FACTS:
Musharraf occupied Pakistan's Goveroment in 1999Ad & Kicked an elected PM. He imposed martial law without referendum, WHY ?
There were suicide attacks one after the other in the wake of the Lal Masjid and the Jamia Hafsa operation. thanks to bad handling by Musharraf and his loyalists.
Musharraf Exposed:
Your Tall Economic claims when he and his loyalists are corrupt looters to the core of Pakistani Money;
Financial scams expose Musharraf's claims of good governance
Islamabad, (Asiantribune.com): Financial scams
and irregularities in different ministries and
divisions of the federal government of Pakistan has
exposed the tall claims of President Gen Pervez
Musharraf about good governance.
Report of Auditor General of Pakistan, reveals that
the irregularities and scams unearthed in different
ministries and divisions during 2000-01 amounted to
Rs.10 billion, which in 2002-03 shot up to nearly 31
billion.
This also included anomalies of Rs.8.15 billion in
federal ministry of food and agriculture, Rs.7.74
billion in National Highway Authority of the ministry
of communication and unjustified expenditures of
Rs.620 million in the foreign ministry.
Departments ensuring check and balance hold the flawed
audit system responsible for irregularities and
corruptions in different ministries and divisions on
such a large scale.
The federal secretary posted in any ministry or
division, called principal accounting officer, also
heads the departmental accounts committee as chairman,
who is primarily responsible for controlling anomalies
and vested with powers to take action against the
errant officials, appears to be quite ineffective in
the existing system of bureaucracy.
The government on the other hand claims that the flaws
in the existing departmental audit system was being
sorted out, while the opposition blames that the
government was not sincere in upholding the
accountability across the board and Public Accounts
Committee was also not playing its effective role.
The Auditor General report recommended upgrading of
the internal audit and financial management in the
ministries and divisions besides underscored the need
for bringing the culprits to book in order to stem
billions spilling over every year.
- Asian Tribune -
http://www.asiantrib...good-governance
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I do not believe you !
Honestly, I would have believed you had I not seen PERSONALLY the love and affection of the people for him last night. People were just going crazy for him
good one Aliph Ahmed!!! I back your analysis!
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:18 PM
I do not believe you !
Honestly, I would have believed you had I not seen PERSONALLY the love and affection of the people for him last night. People were just going crazy for him
Bro iwas there watching this and you don't beleive me?????I personally don't hate him. I guess people in MICHIGAN don't like his policies.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:26 PM
I guess so.........
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:28 PM
we have to wait till end of this'' war on whatever '' to evaluate and analyze his role whether his NAIK OR KHALNAIK
let him try his luck though I doubt very much that barring Karachi or hydarabad he can secure his Bail.
Bro! I agree with you but what kind of policy is this >" If you join the army you will get the free plot". Guess what happened?? people strats joining the army just to get those plots. I know many people who got out of the army at the young age.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:30 PM
Not sure but I think you have to log a few years before being elegible for plots......
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:37 PM
Not sure but I think you have to log a few years before being elegible for plots......
This matter was discussed on KASHIF ABBASI'S SHOW. I guess spending 10 to 15 years in the army for the plot is not a bad deal at all.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:45 PM
we have to wait till end of this'' war on whatever '' to evaluate and analyze his role whether his NAIK OR KHALNAIK
let him try his luck though I doubt very much that barring Karachi or hydarabad he can secure his Bail.
Right on the spot anaylsis, Musharraf can win a few seats and that too in Karachi or Hyderabad to kick start the terror campaigns in the shape of APML against other ethnicities. Maybe give some little bit PML-Q seats in Punjab. Musharraf a failure doesnot have any big vote bank, so the loyalists can keep crying and working until 2015.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 07:01 PM
BINGOOO!!!!!!!!WHATS THE POINT OF CHANGING WHOLE NISAB(COURSE) IN THE SCHOOLS? ALL OF THE AYYATS FROM ISLAMIAT'S SUBJECTS ARE GONE, HOW COME
ABDUL SATTAR EDHI, MOTHER THRESEA ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SAHABAZ???WHY HE REFUSED TO CLAIM CAPTAIN KARNAL SHER KHAN'S BODY????
DID YOU SEE HIS PALACE AND FARMS HE OWN????HE BOUGHT (14 MILLION DOLLAR WORTH) PALACE IN BORN GERMANY. HOW CAN HE AFFORD TO LIVE IN BRITAIN WHEN HIS SALARY WASNT THAT MUCH???WHERE DID HE GET ALL OF THAT MONEY FROM??????????? AND WE ALL KNOW THAT HE ALLOWED THE MUJRAS ON CABLE AND I M VERY SURE YOU HEARD HIS STATEMENT THAT JISS KO NAHIN DEKHNA WOH APNI AANKHAIN BAND KAAR LAY.
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Posted 19 November 2010 - 07:10 PM
ABDUL SATTAR EDHI, MOTHER THRESEA ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SAHABAZ???WHY HE REFUSED TO CLAIM CAPTAIN KARNAL SHER KHAN'S BODY????
DID YOU SEE HIS PALACE AND FARMS HE OWN????HE BOUGHT (14 MILLION DOLLAR WORTH) PALACE IN BORN GERMANY. HOW CAN HE AFFORD TO LIVE IN BRITAIN WHEN HIS SALARY WASNT THAT MUCH???WHERE DID HE GET ALL OF THAT MONEY FROM???????????
bro this is where you are wrong. Mushy was President for 8.5 years and first Presidents get ALOT of gifts from foreign countries.....BUT even more importantly...Mushy is getting 300,000 Euros for EACH lecture that he is giving. This is according to Major General Qureshi who revealed this on one of the shows.
So Mushy has done COUNTLESS lectures and this is how he is earning much of the money.
IF you are trying to imply that he is corrupt, then you will fail miserably. NO ONE has been able to prove no corruption against Mushy during his 8.5 years of rule....and keep in mind that the MEDIA was free during his tenure. EVEN a 100 channels could not prove anything on him. And guess what during the LOST decade of 90s....when we had only ONE PTV channel....corruption charges against Nawaz Harami and BB Beeetch were coming here and there.
EVEN right now EVERYDAY you hear news of PPP government's corruption and it is this EXACT same media which COULD NOT EVEN COME UP WITH ONE SINGLE corruption case against Mushy when he ruled for 8.5 years!
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ABDUL SATTAR EDHI, MOTHER THRESEA ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SAHABAZ???WHY HE REFUSED TO CLAIM CAPTAIN KARNAL SHER KHAN'S BODY????
DID YOU SEE HIS PALACE AND FARMS HE OWN????HE BOUGHT (14 MILLION DOLLAR WORTH) PALACE IN BORN GERMANY. HOW CAN HE AFFORD TO LIVE IN BRITAIN WHEN HIS SALARY WASNT THAT MUCH???WHERE DID HE GET ALL OF THAT MONEY FROM??????????? AND WE ALL KNOW THAT HE ALLOWED THE MUJRAS ON CABLE AND I M VERY SURE YOU HEARD HIS STATEMENT THAT JISS KO NAHIN DEKHNA WOH APNI AANKHAIN BAND KAAR LAY.
On the spot questions my friend, Only Musharraf, MQM, APML and his puppets can ardently answer them, I cannot, sorry.
Hamid_Marro:
Got more FACTS:
How many times he beaten and banned the Media in Pakistan? though he claims he gave independence.
Heard 50 acres of land bought by Mushy in Bhawalpur apart from chak Shehzad, London properties. Where is APML money coming from.
His puppets are not left behind too in this act of corruption and loot.
I can say one thing - Pakistan FIRST !

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 07:30 PM


People who think Mr Mush did bad are conveniently forgetting that every military or civilian leader of Pakistan after the Quiad (and Liquat A Khan) was a moron! Mush was a moron and so was and is every leader! What bunch of sissies like you forget is that the country is ruled by a corrupt Junta, and instead of doing something about it we have sissies whining like little girls complaining how bad one person was!! Grow up please and stop being ruled like donkeys!!


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Posted 19 November 2010 - 07:35 PM
So Mushy has done COUNTLESS lectures and this is how he is earning much of the money.
IF you are trying to imply that he is corrupt, then you will fail miserably. NO ONE has been able to prove no corruption against Mushy during his 8.5 years of rule....and keep in mind that the MEDIA was free during his tenure. EVEN a 100 channels could not prove anything on him. And guess what during the LOST decade of 90s....when we had only ONE PTV channel....corruption charges against Nawaz Harami and BB Beeetch were coming here and there.
EVEN right now EVERYDAY you hear news of PPP government's corruption and it is this EXACT same media which COULD NOT EVEN COME UP WITH ONE SINGLE corruption case against Mushy when he ruled for 8.5 years!
BRO ! DO YOU TRUST GENERAL QURESHI?????HOW CAN YOU PROVE HIS CORRUPTION WHEN HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE MOST POWER INSTITUE( ARMY) AND PRESIDENT OF THE Pakistan. HE WAS HOLDING 2 TITLES AND ARMY WAS BACKING HIM UP. HOW ABOUT TAKING OUT ALL OF THE SURAHS OUT OF ISLAMIYAT???WHAT ABOUT THE MUJRA THINGS????KASHIF ABBASI TALKED ABOUT HIM ON ARY CHANNEL.
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People who think Mr Mush did bad are conveniently forgetting that every military or civilian leader of Pakistan after the Quiad (and Liquat A Khan) was a moron! Mush was a moron and so was and is every leader! What bunch of sissies like you forget is that the country is ruled by a corrupt Junta, and instead of doing something about it we have sissies whining like little girls complaining how bad one person was!! Grow up please and stop being ruled like donkeys!!


NOBODY HERE IS SISSY NEITHER WE ARE WHINING. ITS JUST A NORMAL DISCUSSION. YOU ARE ACTING LIKE >>>MARK SIEN. PLEASE DON'T RUIN THIS POST.EVERYBODY HAVE RIGHT TO SHARE HIS/HER OPNION.
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