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[cheif No 1]

hmmmm......not a bad idea

Muta Brothel Bureau......You want a membership card brother chief? lol
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Now we have to ask webby to choose moderator of good moral character and with decent profession.

[Metanoia]

haha...I was just having some lighthearted fun with you...mind na karna 

 

I know a guy of good moral character and decent profession. maybe he can become a moderator.....it's Mahdi 

[cheif No 1]

haha...I was just having some lighthearted fun with you...mind na karna 
 
I know a guy of good moral character and decent profession. maybe he can become a moderator.....it's Mahdi 

Those who hides can't lead

[safdar]

Alqaeda and Isis are all controlled by America and to some extent even Israel. Back in 2001 I think an alqaeda cell in Palestine was caught and the members turned out to be Mossad agents.

[safdar]

Akhtus.. You must be a mosad to know that!

[Sardar]

 

Alqaeda and Isis are all controlled by America and to some extent even Israel. Back in 2001 I think an alqaeda cell in Palestine was caught and the members turned out to be Mossad agents.

 

 

I think that is far fetched and simplified, America has no more control over ISIS than it does over Taliban or Boko Haram or Somali Pirates. Unless you believe unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

 

ISIS are as "home grown" as they come, they are regional actors, and they emerged because there is

massive power vacuum in that region left by two shia dictators - one in Damascus and one in Baghdad,

who have both been rather hellbent on subjugating Sunnis.

 

ISIS started as the backlash that has now grown into something that is threatening most of the countries in

that region. However whatever sympathies Sunnis around the world may have had with ISIS in the begining

has steadily evaporated and continues to diminish in light of their brutality.

 

I think the killing of journalsit James Foley is when most Sunnis woke up and realised these guys have lost the plot and are going too far. If they dont spare journalists they are not likely to spare or feel sympathy for Western Muslims if they did a terror attack in the West and Muslims died, they would not care.

 

For this reason ISIS has to be stopped and contained, but the question is what to put in their place because 20 million Sunnis are not going to bow to Assad or the Shia Militias from Iraq - who would accuse them all of being ISIS anyway.

[btruant2002]

Extremist elements might have found favour with US secret agencies at some time or the other ..  they might fund these groups or even arm them for limited objectives... they are used and dumped.. that has always been the case everywehre. That is only one of the methods by which nation states have sought to preserve themselves or struck out to expand boundaries. ... every empire has used that and will continue to use it.

 

I think that is far fetched and simplified, America has no more control over ISIS than it does over Taliban or Boko Haram or Somali Pirates. Unless you believe unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

 

ISIS are as "home grown" as they come, they are regional actors, and they emerged because there is

massive power vacuum in that region left by two shia dictators - one in Damascus and one in Baghdad,

who have both been rather hellbent on subjugating Sunnis.

 

ISIS started as the backlash that has now grown into something that is threatening most of the countries in

that region. However whatever sympathies Sunnis around the world may have had with ISIS in the begining

has steadily evaporated and continues to diminish in light of their brutality.

 

I think the killing of journalsit James Foley is when most Sunnis woke up and realised these guys have lost the plot and are going too far. If they dont spare journalists they are not likely to spare or feel sympathy for Western Muslims if they did a terror attack in the West and Muslims died, they would not care.

 

For this reason ISIS has to be stopped and contained, but the question is what to put in their place because 20 million Sunnis are not going to bow to Assad or the Shia Militias from Iraq - who would accuse them all of being ISIS anyway.

[Pak-Eye]

Unlike al qaeda that is mainly hit and run attacks and suicide bombings, ISIS actually acts like an army seizing and holding territory

 

Identifying ISIS as simply another proxy force that could be used or dumped by western powers, would be inaccurate analysis leading to nowhere

[cheif No 1]

Finally the couple has announced their decades long relationship. Soon to announce their KID out of this illegitimate relationship. Though the lady has denounced the Yankee Boy on several occasion specially when he camped in the lady's courtyard. They had bitter exchange of words and allegations. But as experts has expressed their doubts about this "Defect o Non Alliance "  they have announced their relationship  

 

http://www.bbc.com/n...e-east-29079052

Iran 'backs US military contacts' to fight Islamic State,  Iran's Supreme Leader has approved co-operation with the US as part of the fight against Islamic State (IS) in Iraq, sources have told BBC Persian.

[butterfly]

Finally the couple has announced their decades long relationship. Soon to announce their KID out of this illegitimate relationship. Though the lady has denounced the Yankee Boy on several occasion specially when he camped in the lady's courtyard. They had bitter exchange of words and allegations. But as experts has expressed their doubts about this "Defect o Non Alliance "  they have announced their relationship  
 
http://www.bbc.com/n...e-east-29079052
Iran 'backs US military contacts' to fight Islamic State,  Iran's Supreme Leader has approved co-operation with the US as part of the fight against Islamic State (IS) in Iraq, sources have told BBC Persian.

Indeed we live in interesting times.

Shia Iran, Christian west and Israel vs Sunni Islam. Very interesting. Yet media tells us ISIS is very bad read below.

www.thenational.ae/world/middle-east/in-raqqa-isil-governs-with-fear-and-efficiency

Now why don't we ever hear of the above.
500 yazadis killed and NATO/ US wants blood and start airstrikes.
2100 Palestinians killed and no one cares.
ISIS (not that I agree) kill a journalist and the world is shocked. America with its air power kill hundreds daily and no one cares.

[Pak-Eye]

worth watching it, stewart on spot

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=Mp_xcJWChtA

[SLD10]

Indeed we live in interesting times.

Shia Iran, Christian west and Israel vs Sunni Islam. Very interesting. Yet media tells us ISIS is very bad read below.

www.thenational.ae/world/middle-east/in-raqqa-isil-governs-with-fear-and-efficiency

Now why don't we ever hear of the above.
500 yazadis killed and NATO/ US wants blood and start airstrikes.
2100 Palestinians killed and no one cares.
ISIS (not that I agree) kill a journalist and the world is shocked. America with its air power kill hundreds daily and no one cares.

 

 

Butterfly,

 

everyone know, jewish people are at top of States Affairs, they have their own people in Media, Banks, Business, Finance, Army, Police, Schools, Hospitals, etc... So manipulating opinion on their own side it's easy.

 

In France, a French comedian, is boycotted, sued in courts for having said the truth against jews.... nobody can speak, act or whatever against them.

 

They even started last year to brainwash my 8 years old son at school about jewish extermination by Hitler, and forgetting he killed disabled people, communists, gays, gipsys and many others. And that the war caused many more death. I explained him that and i will try to continue to explain him again in order to avoir any brainwashing but propaganda is started at very early age...

[safdar]

SDL 10 and butterfly.

You two are getting to the crux of the matter here, which is the fight between the west and the east.

Basically, ISIS is to save face against a power it cannot touch.

Us Muslims have been defeated by the west many many years ago, scientifically, economically and socially.

And the reason why we have been beating is because of groups like alqaida and Isis!

[Pak-Eye]

Understanding Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi And Phenomenon Of The Islamic Caliphate State

 

Published on Sunday, 14 September 2014 17:56 Written by Y. Carmon, Y. Yehoshua, and A. Leone

 

 

 

The successive atrocities committed by the Islamic State (IS, previously called the Islamic State in Iraq and Al-Sham – ISIS) have diverted the discussion away from an understanding of this organization's political program, creating the erroneous impression that it is simply a more vicious version of Al-Qaeda.

 

According to this view, this organization presumably intends to attack the West by means of its foreign militants who hold Western passports and could return to Western countries to carry out terror attacks – and hence it is paramount to destroy the IS forthwith. Saudi King 'Abdallah bin 'Abd Al-'Aziz promoted this approach when he said that he was certain that those jihadists "would arrive in Europe within a month and in America within two months".[1]

 

This report seeks to clarify the IS's doctrine based on the organization's official writings and speeches by its leaders. It will argue that, unlike Al-Qaeda, the IS places priority not on global terrorism, but rather on establishing and consolidating a state, and hence it defers the clash with the West to a much later stage. In this, it is emulating and reenacting the early Islamic model.

 

Unlike Al-Qaeda, IS Prioritizes State-Building

 

Although the IS and global jihad organizations affiliated with Al-Qaeda share similar beliefs about the necessity to wage jihad for the sake of Allah and establish a caliphate where Islamic shari'a law will be instated, a major distinction exists between them in terms of the order of priorities for implementing these major goals. Whereas in Al-Qaeda, emphasis is on worldwide jihad prior to the declaration of the yearned-for Islamic caliphate (see Osama bin Laden's February 23, 1998 declaration of jihad against the Crusaders and the Jews), IS doctrine is characterized by prioritizing the establishment and consolidation of the caliphate state as the immediate and overriding objective.[2] This objective is presented by the IS leaders as a matter of survival[3] that warrants making compromises dictated by reality, the major compromise being deferral of the struggle with the West to a distant future. In other words, the IS' doctrine under Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi explicitly puts off the clash with the West to different times, and concentrates in the immediate term on the region where the Islamic caliphate is being established.[4] The IS's English-language magazine Dabiq says that the Islamic State "is a marvel of history that has only come about to pave the way for al-Malhamah al-Kubra [the grand battle against the Crusaders at the End of Days]."[5]

 

Furthermore, Al-Baghdadi's vision of the Islamic state is modeled on ancient Islamic history, and therefore does not descend to the level of wallowing in contemporary Middle East politics and struggles. Hence, it addresses political issues such as the Palestinian national struggle quite marginally, and even postpones them to the End of Days era as well.[6]

 

In the current stage, the IS is concentrating on consolidating its rule in the parts of Iraq and Syria it has already conquered, and on expanding its rule in these countries, beginning with areas where there is a Sunni majority.[7] The next stage will be conquering the bordering Muslim states.[8] The second issue of Dabiq cites a reliable hadith of the Prophet that precisely defines the organization's order of priorities following the establishment of the state – first Saudi Arabia, then Iran and ultimately "Rome":[9] "You will invade the Arabian Peninsula, and Allah will enable you to conquer it. You will then invade Persia, and Allah will enable you to conquer it. You will then invade Rome, and will enable you to conquer it. Then you will fight the Dajjal, and Allah will enable you to conquer him."[10] In his declaration of the caliphate, IS spokesman Abu Muhammad Al-'Adnani stated that the area from which the caliphate will expand is the region presently under Al-Baghdadi's rule, extending "from Aleppo to Diyala".[11]

 

What supplants the struggle against the West at this stage are the duties of hijra [migration to the Islamic calipahte state] and bay'ah [pledge of allegiance to the Caliph], both of them central components in building the caliphate. In an audio message published immediately after the caliphate was declared, Al-Baghdadi said to Muslims everywhere,  including in the West: "Whoever amongst you can migrate to the Islamic State should migrate. Hijra to Dar Al-Islam is obligatory."[12] In his first public appearance, his Friday sermon in Mosul, [13]  he referred to the implementation of the shari’a as "a religious obligation," while avoiding any call to global jihad or to harming the West. Both Al-'Adnani in the declaration of the caliphate and Al-Baghdadi in his Mosul sermon refer to the caliphate as an "obligation that has been forgotten for generations." In this, their discourse contrasts sharply, for example, with the discourse of Muhammad 'Abd Al-Salam Faraj's, a major theorist of the Egyptian jihad movement in the 1980s, who termed jihad (rather than the establishment of a caliphate) the forgotten obligation.

 

In his speech following the declaration of the caliphate, Al-Baghdadi presented the vision of the caliphate following the hijra. He said: "Lift your heads up high. You now have a state and a caliphate that restores your honor , your might, your rights and your sovereignty.  The state forms a tie of brotherhood between Arab and non-Arab, white and black, Easterner and Westerner. The caliphate brings together the Caucasian, Indian, Chinese, Shami, Iraqi, Yemeni, Egyptian, North African, American, French, German and Australian... They are all in the same trench, defending each other, protecting each other and sacrificing for one another. Their blood mingles together under one flag [with] one goal and in one camp..."[14]

 

While Al-Qaeda publications in English, such as its magazine Inspire, are brimming with incitement, practical advice, and professional information for performing terror attacks in the West – either in organized groups or in "lone wolf" fashion – nothing of the kind appears in the IS' publications and in speeches by its leaders. On the contrary, IS spokesmen and mouthpieces constantly implore Muslims residing in the West to perform hijra to the Islamic State – which needs experts and qualified personnel (physicians, engineers, military experts, clerics and administrators)[15] to ensure its consolidation and success. The sequential order is clear: hijra is the path to jihad (specifically, jihad aimed at guarding the nascent caliphate and its evolving borders), and "the Islamic state [comes] before al-malhama [the battle against the Crusaders]."[16] Dabiq, which, being in English, is clearly directed at Western readers, states further: "A life of jihad is impossible until you pack your belongings and move to the caliphate."[17] Another article in the same issue states that "life amongst the infidels is heartrending."[18]

 

The issue also says: "Many readers are probably asking about their obligations towards the Khilafah right now. Therefore the Dabiq team wants to convey the position of the Islamic State leadership on this important matter. The first priority is to perform hijra from wherever you are to the Islamic State, from darul-kufr to darul-Islam. Rush to perform it as Musa ('alayhis-salam) rushed to his Lord, saying {and I hastened to You, my Lord, that You be pleased} [Taha:84]. Rush to the shade of the Islamic state with your parents, siblings, spouses and children. There are homes here for you and your families. You can be a major contributor towards the liberation of Makkah, Madinah, and al-Quds. Would you not like to reach Judgment Day with these grand deeds in your scales[?] Finally, if you cannot do any of the above for reasons extremely beyond your control, inshallah your intention and belief that the Islamic State is the Khilafah for all Muslims will be sufficient to save you from the warning mentioned in the hadith, 'Whoever dies without having bound himself by a bay'ah dies a death of jahiliyya.'"[19]

 

Moreover, this struggle to establish the Islamic State also involves a major confrontation with rival jihad organizations, whom the IS expects to disband and swear allegiance to the Caliph. This is bound to delay the later stages of struggle even further. In his declaration of the caliphate, IS spokesman Al-'Adnani addressed the other organizations, saying: "Now that the caliphate has been established, the legitimacy of your groups and organizations is null and void. None of you who believe in Allah can remain for even a single night without declaring loyalty to the Caliph." This demand  necessarily means a series of bloody confrontations that extend the first stage of building the caliphate and further postpone the battle to realize stages two and three. Dabiq often stresses the internal ideological struggle and the illegitimacy of the rival organizations, including by mocking their leaders, whose behavior, the IS believes, deviates from the true Islamic model. This contempt extends even to Al-Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri and to Jabhat Al-Nusra leader Abu-Muhammad Al-Joulani.

 

The IS even directs oblique criticism at the global jihad movement for advising Muslims in the West to stay put in order to carry out terror attacks. Thus, for example, according to the third issue of Dabiq, anyone remaining in the West is a hypocrite who enjoys the illicit pleasures of Western living and is content to surf jihadi forums instead of participating in the preservation and defense of the Islamic State. Furthermore, it is argued that anyone failing to support the Islamic State falsely associates himself with jihad: "Those who are falsely associated with jihad turn away from the Islamic State, even publicly declaring their enmity against it in bizarre competition with the crusaders and the apostates."[20]

 

Pursuing A State As A First Priority, Even At The Cost Of Compromises - Emulating The Strategy Of Muhammad

 

 

In his approach that prioritizes the consolidation of the Islamic State over an all-encompassing battle with Islam’s enemies, Al-Baghdadi is emulating the Prophet Muhammad – the ultimate Islamic role model.[21] The Prophet, while displaying cruelty in battle ­– cruelty mirrored by the IS – put off battles with his enemies and integrated compromises and tactical agreements in his policy, in order to gather strength prior to renewing action to obtain his ultimate goals.[22] The IS, ruling from its informal capital in Syria's Al-Raqqa, conducts itself in a similar manner, enforcing the laws of the shari'a while selling oil to Europe via the black market.[23]

 

 

Assessing The Threat Posed By The Islamic State To The West

 

The IS's ideology, discourse and conduct thus demonstrate that terror attacks in the West are at the bottom of its order of priorities. However, it is equally clear that, once the near and immediate enemy has been defeated, the West’s turn will arrive. Moreover, if allowed to implement its strategy of stages, upon reaching the third stage, the stage of war against the West, the Islamic state will no longer marshal only a few thousand fighters riding pickup trucks. Instead, it is likely to command a wide range of modern military assets, possibly including planes, guided missiles, and chemical weapons or some other kind of WMD. Therefore, postponing the clash with the West serves the IS' interests rather than the West's (which is precisely why it opts to postpone it in the first place).[24]

 

Furthermore, while the threat of terror in the West is not part of the IS's immediate agenda, the threat to Western interests in the Middle East, for instance in the Gulf States, Yemen and Jordan, materializes in the second stage, a good deal before the millenarian battles.

 

It should be emphasized that, although the doctrine of postponing the clash with the West is solidly entrenched, as reflected in the organization's writings and actions, it cannot be ruled out that certain developments, such as a massive Western attack, could change the organization's order of priorities and advance the stage of conflict with the West. The Western strategy of nipping the Islamic State in the bud may provoke counterattacks that were not planned by the organization at the outset. This places the West in a bind: inaction endangers the West in the long run, while immediate action may exact a heavy price that Al-Baghdadi did not plan to exact in the present stage.

 

Indeed, the parties who should have countered the caliphate, thus obviating the need for Western intervention in the first place, are the regional Muslim states who are threatened by the IS. However, these countries are incapable of acting alone. They need the US to form an anti-IS coalition, and even with American and other Western assistance, the job is proving difficult, as evident from the refusal of Egypt, Jordan and Turkey to commit themselves to the effort on the ground. [25]

 

http://www.rightside...hate-state.html

[Pak-Eye]

Obama leads his coalition of Arab tyrants into another losing, Islamist-boosting war

 

http://non-intervent...t-boosting-war/

 

 

“The real defeatist in America is the man who says this nation cannot survive alone.” Col. Charles A. Lindbergh, 1 July 1941

 

“There is nothing worse than a belligerent professor.” Walter Lippman

 

The Founders created a republic that could survive if it was run by honest men of moderate intelligence and common sense, but not one that could survive if run by men and women who are well-educated but also ideologues and pathological liars. Hence, America today is on the verge of being done like dinner.

 

Since Osama bin Laden declared war on the United States in August, 1996, the people of the United States have elected presidents, senators, and congressmen who are neither honest not apparently very intelligent. This kind of electoral result is the chance that voters take in every republican political system, and it is a painful result that, in normal times, can be endured until a more savvy and less dishonest American emerges to win the reins of power and talk frankly and factually to the citizenry.

 

These are not normal times, however, and the kind of leadership we have had continuously since 1996 is leading the nation into a world war with Islam that will be among the bloodiest ever fought by this country. This war will kill and maim so many American soldiers and Marines that those already killed in Afghanistan and Iraq will form no more than a corporal’s guard for the coming dead.

 

And why are we getting involved into this war?

 

–Because two U.S. journalists and one British journalist were beheaded by IS fighters? This a national security threat to neither the U.S. nor the UK.

–Because Christians, Yazidis, and other minorities are being persecuted by IS forces? This is not a national security threat to the United States?

–Because Iraqi, Syrian, and other Sunnis are warring against Iraqi, Iranian, and Syrian Shia and Alawites? This is a clear plus for U.S. national security and should be encouraged.

–Because IS forces will eventually threaten and destabilize our “allies” — most large oil producers — in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Bahrain, Kuwait, and the UAE? This is only a threat because Obama’s administration has not sprinted the final small distance to U.S. energy self sufficiency.  And, by the way, most of our Arab allies and/or their wealthy citizens are sending arms, funds, and recruits to IS, as well as paying for the intolerant religious education of youngsters — who will become future jihadis — in the United States and its English-speaking allies.

–Because IS is inspiring/funding/ordering local Islamists to attack in the United States, Canada, Britain, and Australia? This is a threat to those countries only because the insane leadership class  in each believes in the fatuous and debilitating myths of multiculturalism and diversity, has made it easy for foreigners who cannot or will not assimilate to enter those countries, and has refused to fully secure national borders.

–Because the fast-growing forces of militant Sunni Islam are threatening Israel? This is true, but it is not a national security threat to the United States. It is a threat only to the politicians in both U.S. parties who are on the take from AIPAC and other pro-Israel organizations.

 

And why should we have refused to re-intervene in Iraq?

 

–Because IS is cutting the heads off Westerners to lure America into re-intervening. Why? Because U.S. military intervention in any Muslim country means more donations, recruits, and popular support for IS, al-Qaeda, and other like-minded organizations. U.S. intervention in the Iraq-Syria theater will, over time, make everything it is designed to stop much worse.

–Because we will lose again, and so further add to the Muslim world’s perception that the United States is finished as a superpower, is unwilling to destroy its enemies; and can, with continued patience and sacrifice, be defeated. In addition, the U.S., UK, Canadian, and Australian militaries have proven themselves — in Iraq and Afghanistan — almost completely incompetent when it comes to defeating Islamist insurgents. Until they relearn the art of killing massive numbers of their enemies and their supporters those militaries should stay home and defend borders.

–Because the recklessly lawless Barack Obama has again violated the Constitution by attacking in Syria without congressional approval. He also has created a coalition of Arab tyrannies that will appear to Sunni Muslims as a clear U.S. effort to insure the stability of the Sunni tyrants who oppress them, as well as to protect the hated Shia and Alawite dictators who rule Syria, Iraq, and Iran.

–Because we are BROKE as a nation; re-intervention will be prolonged and extraordinarily expensive; and the goal of IS and all Islamist groups vis. the United States is to complete its economic ruin.

–Because Obama and the national government will further shred the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights in the name of “protecting Americans” from the Islamist enemies Washington is constantly motivating — through military intervention — to kill them and their soldier-children.

–Because we live in North America and our enemy has neither the naval nor air power to reach us. We also have the capability to incinerate them and their supporters if they find a way to hurt us badly at home. The Islamist enemy’s threat at the moment stems largely from the refusal of America’s bipartisan elite to control the nation’s borders and its willingness to tolerate the entry of enormous numbers of illegal aliens about whose location and intentions we are ignorant. (NB: If another major attack occurs in the United States, it should provoke not only the eradication of the enemy and its supporters, but also something akin to drum-head courts-martial for politicians who have served in the national government since 9/11 and opposed border control. The trials should be conducted with a substantial number of gallows and, as Willie Nelson would say, “all the rope in Texas” standing by and ready to promptly execute the sentences imposed.)

[Asian Union]

I S I S MAP:

 

[SLD10]

This map shows the zombies ´s land !

[kmc]

I S I S MAP:

 

 

oh tere . . . 

they left Bangladesh, Burma, Indonesia, Malaysia they also have large Muslim Population. 

[platinum786]

They got Sri Lanka though. It would have it's advantages, look at the cricket team we could have, assuming cricket was still allowed.

[kmc]

They got Sri Lanka though. It would have it's advantages, look at the cricket team we could have, assuming cricket was still allowed.

 

[noxiouspython]

Aoa

 

 

So Iraq&Shaam get a separate province but Pakistan&Iran&Afghanistan&Turkmenistan&Uzbekistan&Kazakhstan&Tajikistan&India&Nepal&Bhutan&SriLanka&china get one?

 

Horrible idea - administratively speaking.

 

w/salaam

[Krad]

No one said these guys are smart .

[platinum786]

Aoa
 
 
So Iraq&Shaam get a separate province but Pakistan&Iran&Afghanistan&Turkmenistan&Uzbekistan&Kazakhstan&Tajikistan&India&Nepal&Bhutan&SriLanka&china get one?
 
Horrible idea - administratively speaking.
 
w/salaam

Its outright racism. Anyone non-Arab they're not going to bother governing properly it seems. F that, lets create our own Isis we'll call it SISI and print maps with all the arabs marked as "others" apart from Makkah, Medina and Jerusalem.

As you may have noticed I don't take the Isis threat seriously at all. We've faced everything the TTP and AL Qeuda could throw at us and come out strong the other side, they can rebranded as whatever they want, there is no fear in Pakistan.

[Pak-Eye]

Never been a fan of NFP, but this one indeed deserves reading; its very much neutral for a subject like 'political Islam':

 

 

http://www.dawn.com/...tionary-history

[platinum786]

TTP sacked their spokesperson for claiming alleigence to ISIS

 

http://newsweekpakis...ting-spokesman/

[platinum786]

Never been a fan of NFP, but this one indeed deserves reading; its very much neutral for a subject like 'political Islam':

 

 

http://www.dawn.com/...tionary-history

 

I've read this an opened a new topic to discuss it here... http://forum.pakista...howtopic=103403

[Asian Union]

http://ibnlive.in.co...it-workers.html

[gnak]

Israeli Secret Intelligence Service

[butterfly]

They got Sri Lanka though. It would have it's advantages, look at the cricket team we could have, assuming cricket was still allowed.

I am sure cricket will be allowed considering we will be using grenades as a ball. Now that's a real boom boom.

[butterfly]

No one said these guys are smart .

Ahhhh but they are smart. That's the point.

[Jazba-e-Kashmir]

Has anyone heard that ISIS is looking for hardcore members in Pakistan?

They should be shot killed and dragged half dead in Pakistans streets for looking an evil eye against Pakistan khwariji kaafir laanatullah alehi!

[faizan khaliq]

they better form a spiritual cult and preach for khilafat instead ofbrutal killing,Caliph is fine but like vetican he better rule spirtual kingdom 

[MoThSmOkE]

There is a chance alot of splinter groups who are in search for financing would join Daish (another name for ISIS in Pakistan).

 

With an operation going on in FATA and thereabouts there is a good chance atleast their presence inside Pakistan could be kept in check. 

[SLD10]

it's time Pak Army speed up cleaning operation.

it's time Pakistanis wake up to stop all these terrorists !

it's time for shouting Pakistan ZINDABAD !!!!!!

[safdar]

I've read a few British news snippets also reference to ISIS as the "Khorasan" group!

First time I heard this "Khorasan" name is from PDF, years back..

[Pak-Eye]

The so called 'Khorasan Group' was/is an internal cell of Al- Nusra (Al Qaeda's franchise in Syria) and unlike ISIS they wanted to attack west

[Simpleton]

Yahoo News

Pakistani soldier beheaded by Afghan, Pakistani IS supporters: video

Reuters By Saud Mehsud 13 hours ago

By Saud Mehsud

DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan (Reuters) - A group of Pakistani and Afghan militants have beheaded a Pakistani soldier after pledging allegiance to Islamic State, according to a new video released online, copying execution tactics used by the Middle East jihadist group.

Islamic State, which controls large areas of Iraq and Syria, has gained a foothold in Pakistan and Afghanistan in the past year, with a number of former Taliban militants setting up a new group purporting to represent IS interests in the region.

Little is known about its activities or its size. It remains unclear whether IS-inspired militants hiding on the Pakistani-Afghan border are acting on their own or on direct orders from the IS leadership in the Middle East.

In the latest Arabic-language video, whose authenticity could not immediately be confirmed, a large group of turbaned militants, many on horseback and holding rifles and black IS flags, are seen gathered in an undisclosed forested area.

A militant identified by the SITE intelligence group as former Pakistani Taliban spokesman Shahidullah Shahid is then seen addressing the crowd to announce pledges of allegiance to IS from leaders of various groups in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

"We want to inform you that we have brought together the emirs of 10 groups who want to pledge their allegiance to the Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi," he said, referring to the IS leader.

At the end of the 16-minute video a man wearing a helmet, a T-shirt and combat trousers, identified as a Pakistani soldier, is seen being beheaded with a machete.

According to SITE, those present during the execution included both Afghan and Taliban militants but nothing was known about the beheaded soldier or how he was captured.

IS's radical ideology appears to have inspired many fighters operating across the region, posing a possible challenge to more established local groups such as the Taliban.

But, while some fighters switched sides to declare allegiance to IS in the past year, most Taliban insurgents remained staunchly loyal to Mullah Mohammad Omar, an Afghan Taliban leader who has been at the helm of the movement since the 1990s.

Videos of beheadings, popularized by IS, are not commonplace in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region, although the Taliban and other local militant groups often resort to similarly gruesome attacks against security forces and civilians.

(Additional reporting by Angus McDowall and Yara Bayoumy in Dubai, Writing by Maria Golovnina; Editing by Gareth Jones)

[Simpleton]

http://news.yahoo.co...-133821178.html