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Posted 15 October 2012 - 06:26 AM
Qadri returns to Pakistan on Dec 23
LAHORE – Minhaj-ul-Quran chief Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, while addressing Workers Conventions through video conferencing from Canada on Sunday, announced that he would return to Pakistan on December 23.
The Minhaj-ul-Quran organised conventions in 100 countries of the world and more than 25 Tehsils of the country, including the main ceremony at Central Secretariat in Model Town.
Terming the existing electoral system the biggest enemy of the people of Pakistan, Qadri said that real change would come only by discarding it. “The ruling elite regard people as slaves and their psychology was like that of Pharaohs of Egypt.”
He said that it was wrong to describe the prevalent system as democracy, for democracy denoted exercise of rationality and free choice, while the people of Pakistan were forced to vote along tribal, ethnic and linguistic lines contrary to the spirit of democracy.
The Minhaj-ul-Quran said that the existing system only protected the interests of 3 per cent privileged elite, while the majority did not have access to basic necessities of life. “The assemblies are just rubber stamps and debating fora for fabricating lies. The decisions of the apex court are not being implemented, and people are being punished through price-hike, inflation and dearness.”
He said that the country’s sovereignty was being sold for peanuts, and all talk of integrity and sovereignty by the ruling classes was a sham. “The masses should not allow a handful of privileged people to befool them and initiate an effective but peaceful struggle against the existing electoral system based on corruption, violation of people’s rights and anti-people policies.”
Qadri said that the Minhaj-ul-Quran’s slogan of change in the system would become the basis of a sustainable change in the society. He condemned the attack on Malala Yousafzai and her fellow students, adding that terrorism originating from radicalism and fundamentalist mindset has undermined peace. “The attackers did not merely try to kill Malala, but the entire humanity.”
The Minhaj-ul-Quran chief said that the profane moviemakers were the worst enemies of humanity and global peace. He asked if the prime minister of Pakistan could be sent home for contempt of court, why the government was silent and not knocking the doors of the International Court of Justice.
“The international law does not allow making of a blasphemous movie. This issue refers to respect of religions and should not be looked at from the angle of freedom of speech. The law on respect and sanctity of religions already exists in a number of western countries, but it is not being implemented.”
Qadri highlighted the need for legislation at the UN level to preclude any possibility of such despicable occurrences. He also urged the Muslim countries to frame a joint policy on the issue.
http://www.nation.co...istan-on-dec-23
ARY News: Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri Coming Back to Pakistan on 23rd December 2012
ARY News-Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri announces return on 23rd December 2012
http://tune.pk/video...d-December-2012
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:28 AM
So he wants to be the new khomeni?
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Fudayl ibn Iyaad said: "Verily, if an action was done sincerely for the sake of Allah but was not correct, it will not be accepted by Allah. And if the action was correct but not done sincerely it will not be accepted until the act is sincere and correct. For it to be sincere, it has to be done for the sake of Allah, and in order for it to be correct, it has to agree to the sunnah."
the Messenger of Allah pbuh says; “whoever does not care about the affairs of the Muslims is not one of them.”
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:16 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_0F2IJEfmE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBJDy6GdlFo&feature=related
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:08 PM
I'm no fan of tahir ul qadri either but he has a point. The present system of elections needs to go dude. It's worthless.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:18 PM
I have my reservation about this man, if he was a pan islamist, a patriot who would want too make Pakistan a global power, they wouldnt have tolerated him in west.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_0F2IJEfmE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBJDy6GdlFo&feature=related
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:17 PM
^^ I would go on to say that under present circumstances, elections are useless. I would rather have a Islamist and firecely patriotic military man who would purge, literally all the liberal scumbags in every part of our society and purse ruthlessly all those, regardless of colour, on global level, who are involved in hurting Pakistan and its people in last 60 odd years.
I have my reservation about this man, if he was a pan islamist, a patriot who would want too make Pakistan a global power, they wouldnt have tolerated him in west.
Your right, obviously.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:58 PM
And win with a majority that they can fudge with the constitution without opposition.
Napoleon Bonaparte: The world suffers a lot, not because of the violence of bad people, but because of the silence of good people!
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:02 PM
^^ I would go on to say that under present circumstances, elections are useless. I would rather have a Islamist and firecely patriotic military man who would purge, literally all the liberal scumbags in every part of our society and purse ruthlessly all those, regardless of colour, on global level, who are involved in hurting Pakistan and its people in last 60 odd years.
I have my reservation about this man, if he was a pan islamist, a patriot who would want too make Pakistan a global power, they wouldnt have tolerated him in west.
The First question is who would be this fierce patriotic military man who cleans up the whole country? We have seen military rule as well as the rule from these criminals. No doubt Pakistan had better times under the military rule compared to the political era. The military rule was only a short term solution and none of the generals not even Zia-ul-Haq or Ayub Khan who were Islamic and patriotic could clean up the country. The generals can´t and will not do it for Pakistan. That´s for sure. We should not rely on the generals to come forward and do the job for us. It is the Pakistani people who must take the step.
Coming to Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri. His only purpose in life is to prepare and educate the people of Pakistan to bring a peaceful Islamic revolution in Pakistan. He is working on it day and night since more than 30 years. He tried it through the political process but when he saw that it is only a waste of time he decided to cancel his seat in the National Assembly. Believe me he is a true patriot who wants to make Pakistan a global power. The difference between him and other scholars or politicians is that he had a clear vision and a plan right from the beginning.
Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri knows how to deal with the west. He is an intellectual and a wise person. He distinguishes himself from the rest of the maulvis who become emotional in critical times and calm down when the issue is over without presenting any solution to the problems. Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gives solutions and this is what the west acknowledged. He always avoided a direct confrontation course because this would harm the greater purpose to bring an Islamic revolution in Pakistan. He revealed very little of his plans and this is the reason why he made it through to reach this stage.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:09 PM
To change anything, one needs to win first - putting the cart before the horse wali baat!
And win with a majority that they can fudge with the constitution without opposition.
You´ll see people will join in millions and the critics will be stunned. Revolution is near, It is now or never!
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:14 PM
Aoa
So he wants to be the new khomeni?
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Not at all. khomeni seized power through a bloody revolution. Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri wants a peaceful revolution and is not power-hungry.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:44 PM
Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri’s message on Pakistan Day
The 23rd of March is an important day in the history of Pakistan when seventy one years ago, the Muslims of the sub-continent gathered at the then Minto Park (now Minar-e-Pakistan) and charted a new course of action to achieve separate homeland under the inspiring leadership of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah. The day reminds us of the heroic sacrifices and contributions rendered by the Muslims to realize the dream of Allama Muhammad Iqbal.
Despite living together with Hindus for well over 800 years, the Muslims could not amalgamate into the native composite culture and civilization. They kept their cultural identity, religious values and civilizational ethos intact and distinct from those of other communities that inhabited in Hindustan in spite of various efforts to impose a uniform culture and code of life. They also resented the efforts of the British government to treat the Indian political and constitutional problem under the ideal of Westminster democracy. Their quest for seeking separate electorate and other Muslim-specific concessions from the ruling British also bespoke of their innate desire to be treated as a nation.
The insistence of Congress on the application of Westminster democracy, where majority rules the roost, was an attempt at stifling the Muslims’ identity and assimilating them into larger Indian whole. The Nehru Report, which turned a blind eye to the existence of the Muslims and tended to project the notion of joint Nationalism, was a watershed, which made Muslims realize the gravity of challenge they were up against. It was at this stage that Allama Dr Muhmmad Iqbal, sage and philosopher of the East, vented out their pent-up desires and emotions and came up with the idea of a separate homeland for the Muslims after studying the Indian problem from the prism of history, geography, religion and politics. The treatment meted out to the Muslims at the hands of the ruling Congress between 1937 and 1939 only confirmed the efficacy of Iqbal’s thoughts and genuineness of the Muslims’ demand for being treated as equal to the Hindus. This provides the historical background for the passage of Resolution for Pakistan on March 23, 1940.
This day demands of us to do much-needed introspection and identify whether Pakistan of today represents the ideals which characterized the freedom struggle. An objective appraisal reveals that we have drifted far beyond from the vision of our founding fathers who wanted to make Pakistan a truly modern, moderate, democratic and welfare Islamic state where all citizens could live peacefully, enjoy equality before law, equal access to opportunities in accordance with the principles of social justice and equity propounded by Islam.
The flood of challenges Pakistan is mired in suggests that we have put the idea of Pakistan at the backburner. In the absence of strong nationalism, various sub-national identities on the basis of ethnicity, sectarianism, and provincialism have emerged to fill in the vacuum. The cropping up of forces of terrorism and extremism also owes itself to absence of a unifying idea which could bind diverse elements into a national power. We cannot succeed unless we search for our moorings and values.
Minhaj-ul-Quran International is striving to attain the goal for which Pakistan was achieved. It has launched a worldwide campaign against the forces of terrorism and extremism that are bent on bringing Pakistan and Islam into disrepute and embarrassment. On this auspicious day, let us pledge not to rest unless we achieve the goal of making Pakistan a truly democratic, Islamic welfare state as envisioned by Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Allama Dr Muhammad Iqbal. I extend my felicitation to people of Pakistan on this day.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 06:26 PM
Maybe my personal bias against Dr Tahir ul Qadri is preventing me from getting excited but lets hope whatever happens makes Pakistan a better and stronger more prosperous place.
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Not equal are the owners of the fire and the owners of the Garden. The owners of the Garden, they are the victorious. [Quran 59:20]
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Fudayl ibn Iyaad said: "Verily, if an action was done sincerely for the sake of Allah but was not correct, it will not be accepted by Allah. And if the action was correct but not done sincerely it will not be accepted until the act is sincere and correct. For it to be sincere, it has to be done for the sake of Allah, and in order for it to be correct, it has to agree to the sunnah."
the Messenger of Allah pbuh says; “whoever does not care about the affairs of the Muslims is not one of them.”
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:12 AM
The First question is who would be this fierce patriotic military man who cleans up the whole country? We have seen military rule as well as the rule from these criminals. No doubt Pakistan had better times under the military rule compared to the political era. The military rule was only a short term solution and none of the generals not even Zia-ul-Haq or Ayub Khan who were Islamic and patriotic could clean up the country. The generals can´t and will not do it for Pakistan. That´s for sure. We should not rely on the generals to come forward and do the job for us. It is the Pakistani people who must take the step.
Coming to Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri. His only purpose in life is to prepare and educate the people of Pakistan to bring a peaceful Islamic revolution in Pakistan. He is working on it day and night since more than 30 years. He tried it through the political process but when he saw that it is only a waste of time he decided to cancel his seat in the National Assembly. Believe me he is a true patriot who wants to make Pakistan a global power. The difference between him and other scholars or politicians is that he had a clear vision and a plan right from the beginning.
Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri knows how to deal with the west. He is an intellectual and a wise person. He distinguishes himself from the rest of the maulvis who become emotional in critical times and calm down when the issue is over without presenting any solution to the problems. Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gives solutions and this is what the west acknowledged. He always avoided a direct confrontation course because this would harm the greater purpose to bring an Islamic revolution in Pakistan. He revealed very little of his plans and this is the reason why he made it through to reach this stage.
Ayub Khan wasnt Islamist, Zia was but unforunately for Zia, he was engulfed in disputes on both side of border with india and USSR.
People have different prespectives, personally I feel that time for leaders who make compromises just to appease other nations is long gone. We need someone who can tell the "world", either our way or highway. Our people are being cut to sizes in hundreds each day, yet our leaders or the ones who are aiming to be one, still look in the shades of black and grey.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_0F2IJEfmE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBJDy6GdlFo&feature=related
Liya jayega tujh se kam, duniya ki imamat ka
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:39 AM
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:49 AM
I'm not sure about this guy anymore. Not since minhaj ul Quran said something positive about coalition forces on thier website.
They did??? What did they say?
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:07 PM
poor average hard working Pakistanis are seen as third class citizens and suppressed politically, socially and financially!
It's all about beraa-pan - showing off and showing muscles to create fear among others.
ie. shahbaz sharif's daughter was in a bakery; she talked bad to the worker in the bakery.
Later on the day the elite security officers came along with some son-in-law or familymember related to shabaz sharif/nawaz sharif. The result was; that familymember beated the worker from the bakery where the other elite security officers beated him as well.
There is no clear story about the argue which occured in the bakery, but sending a elite force which protects only "elite"-groups and beats the crap out of labour force workers, then surely Pakistan needs a revolution!!
@ post no. 15 & 16; Rungroot and Platinium;
I've heard the same. it is said that in the fatwa against suicidal attacks, the attacks on the coalitions forces aren't allowed because they've come as guests in the country (Afghanistan) where there are a lot of Muslims. Therefore they must not be touched. I have to admit and state eventhough i haven't seen or read the fatwa which has been published, but been told by others who've critical reviews about the fatwa.
I've seen pictures of xe-agents protecting him when he was in mumbai.
There are rumours he met them as well.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:23 PM
http://www.minhaj.or...mist-Group.html
just access that link and search for the word tribute.
No matter how educated, how pious, i can't stand with someone who makes such statements.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:37 PM
Well, I might not be very fond of Dr. sb but the problem with not only him but all religious parties is that they don't have any vision. They only know how to manipulate people with what people like to hear. They have proved to demagogues nothing more. I feel the same problem with Imran Khan as well based on his recent performances. Both of them say we will make Pakistan "Quaid ka Pakistan" or "Allama Iqbal ka Pakistan" but they don't know how it will be done. Zaid Hamid belongs to the same category. Religious parties will just say we will implement Islamic system in Pakistan and it will cure everything and when you say that it will not solve all of Pakistan's problems, what about other problems, they will say oh this guy is not a muslim. That is what I have felt so far. You guys might disagree but this is the fact. I have seen his videos that put a big question mark on what he does and how he does it. Sorry but no offense intended. This is just my personal opinion.
Ok this is your personal opinion. I agree with you to some extent. Most of the religious parties really have no vision and no plan how to implement things. Religious parties got some chances in the past to prove their critics wrong and much to my regret they failed to deliver. But that does not mean that you put every religious party or everyone with an Islamic viewpoint into one category. Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri had a plan before announcing the revolution, which strategy to apply and how to implement it and also has a post-revolution plan. He revealed some points in talk shows and inshAllah he is going to reveal everything in front of the Pakistani crowd on the 23rd December. Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri is an intellectual who is not only a renowned Islamic scholar but also a lawyer who fought important cases for Pakistan and the Muslims.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:42 PM
Ayub Khan wasnt Islamist, Zia was but unforunately for Zia, he was engulfed in disputes on both side of border with india and USSR.
People have different prespectives, personally I feel that time for leaders who make compromises just to appease other nations is long gone. We need someone who can tell the "world", either our way or highway. Our people are being cut to sizes in hundreds each day, yet our leaders or the ones who are aiming to be one, still look in the shades of black and grey.
Ayub Khan was a true patriot. Pakistan had a good time under his rule. You are right Zia-ul-Haq had a very tough time with hostilities on both side of the borders. The current general is facing hostilities with even higher intensity from external (eastern and western borders) as well as internal forces (government, TTP, BLA, foreign agencies, media, etc.). I agree with you we need a leader who makes no more compromises but you can´t do anything if you are weak. The GoP ruined this country. The current situation is hurting every one of us and we simply can´t do anything unless the people of Pakistan say enough is enough. The Pakistani nation voted these incompetent and corrupt leaders into power now it should be their turn to topple them peacefully.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:48 PM
Taken from their own website, a UK spokesman for the organisation said "minhaj ul quran pays tribute to the dead british soldiers."
http://www.minhaj.or...mist-Group.html
just access that link and search for the word tribute.
No matter how educated, how pious, i can't stand with someone who makes such statements.
Minhaj ul Quran is not supporting any invasion whether in Iraq, in Afghanistan in Palestine or else where. Paying tribute to a dead British soldier does not make you a supporter of coalition forces. Even armies are paying respect to fallen enemy soldiers. Would someone call them traitors or supporters of the enemy army?
Relatives of some of the dead british soldiers are receiving their bodies in Wootton Bassett. Some extremist elements planned a march through this town for protesting against the british troops. They also could have planned it in any other town. Logically this sparked outrage amongst the British population. The statement was given to defuse some tensions between the Muslim community and the British population.
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@ post no. 15 & 16; Rungroot and Platinium;
I've heard the same. it is said that in the fatwa against suicidal attacks, the attacks on the coalitions forces aren't allowed because they've come as guests in the country (Afghanistan) where there are a lot of Muslims. Therefore they must not be touched. I have to admit and state eventhough i haven't seen or read the fatwa which has been published, but been told by others who've critical reviews about the fatwa.
I've seen pictures of xe-agents protecting him when he was in mumbai.
There are rumours he met them as well.
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Suicide bombings are decleared haram not only by Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri but also by other scholars because it is killing innocent non-combatants. The fatwa is consisting of more than 500 pages and it includes verses from the Qur´an, Ahadith of Holy Prophet SAW and opinions of leading jurists from different school of thoughts.
Let me correct you the persons which you have seen on the pictures protecting Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri on his tour to india were NOT xe-agents like some are claiming but a close protection team from a private security company based in mumbai, india. I also know the name of the close protector.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:58 PM
Ayub Khan was a true patriot. Pakistan had a good time under his rule. You are right Zia-ul-Haq had a very tough time with hostilities on both side of the borders. The current general is facing hostilities with even higher intensity from external (eastern and western borders) as well as internal forces (government, TTP, BLA, foreign agencies, media, etc.). I agree with you we need a leader who makes no more compromises but you can´t do anything if you are weak. The GoP ruined this country. The current situation is hurting every one of us and we simply can´t do anything unless the people of Pakistan say enough is enough. The Pakistani nation voted these incompetent and corrupt leaders into power now it should be their turn to topple them peacefully.
I havent seen Ayub Khan period, correct me if I am wrong, But the information i have that he was a against urdu speaking citizens of Pakistan and his decision to move capital away from karachi and his treatment of Fatima Jinnah , doesnt qualify him to be a patriot. Zia however, was a true patriot.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_0F2IJEfmE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBJDy6GdlFo&feature=related
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I havent seen Ayub Khan period, correct me if I am wrong, But the information i have that he was a against urdu speaking citizens of Pakistan and his decision to move capital away from karachi and his treatment of Fatima Jinnah , doesnt qualify him to be a patriot. Zia however, was a true patriot.
Zia ul Haq was a true Muslims and a true Patriot. He is unparalleled in Pakistani history.
Its too bad he died in that plane crash.
May he Insh'Allah go to Jannah.
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I havent seen Ayub Khan period, correct me if I am wrong, But the information i have that he was a against urdu speaking citizens of Pakistan and his decision to move capital away from karachi and his treatment of Fatima Jinnah , doesnt qualify him to be a patriot. Zia however, was a true patriot.
Pakistan had a rising rate of economic growth under Ayub Khan era and a flourishing industry which was also known as the ‘Green Revolution’. He fought against corruption and punished corrupt politicians. To move the capital away from Karachi to Islamabad was a political step. I think he was against Urdu speakers because they supported Fatima Jinnah over him.
I never knew that he treated the Mother of the nation Fatima Jinnah with disrespect and if it is true then it can´t be tolerated at all!
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Suicide bombings are decleared haram not only by Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri but also by other scholars because it is killing innocent non-combatants. The fatwa is consisting of more than 500 pages and it includes verses from the Qur´an, Ahadith of Holy Prophet SAW and opinions of leading jurists from different school of thoughts.
Let me correct you the persons which you have seen on the pictures protecting Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri on his tour to india were NOT xe-agents like some are claiming but a close protection team from a private security company based in mumbai, india. I also know the name of the close protector.
Can you give the name of the security-company that protected him during his visit in india, and secondly if that company has cooperations with xe at all...?while we're at it; there is one picture, where a white-western security-officer holding around Tahir ul Qadri, he has been identified as a former or present cia-agent, can you clearify this rumour as well.Peace
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:52 AM
But lets see what happens - anything annoying the current government is welcome.
- Jinnah , Eid message in September 1945.
He called upon the mammoth Lahore audience to build up "Pakistan as a bulwark of Islam", to "live up to your traditions and add to it another chapter of glory", adding, "If we take our inspiration and guidance from the Holy Quran, the final victory, I once again say, will be ours"
-Jinnah , (30 October 1947).
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 05:03 PM
Can you give the name of the security-company that protected him during his visit in india, and secondly if that company has cooperations with xe at all...?while we're at it; there is one picture, where a white-western security-officer holding around Tahir ul Qadri, he has been identified as a former or present cia-agent, can you clearify this rumour as well.Peace
Sorry bro I don´t know the name of the security company but this white-western guy is from South Africa and his name is also known. He settled down in India some years back and is married to an Indian woman. A cia agent wouldn´t uncover his identity. I met an Indian Muslim brother in London who was in the company of Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri during his tour to india. He assured that his close protection team has nothing to do with the likes of xe or blackwater.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:43 PM
Tahir Ul qadri,i respect his knowledge but He comes off as a bit egoistic to me. Also,I agree he is a bit of an appeaser.
BUT, considering where we stand,Id support anyone who is half as bad as Zardari and Sharif...hence my support for PTI...lets see what Qaudri saab can conjure.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:26 PM
This will become a brelvi vs. deobandi thing:P...just watch.
Tahir Ul qadri,i respect his knowledge but He comes off as a bit egoistic to me. Also,I agree he is a bit of an appeaser.
BUT, considering where we stand,Id support anyone who is half as bad as Zardari and Sharif...hence my support for PTI...lets see what Qaudri saab can conjure.
Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri is not a Brelvi. He respects Ahmad Raza Khan but considers himself to Ahl-e-Sunnah wal Jammat. I hope it won´t turn into any sectarian clash.
He is not working for any personal gains or benefits. All his efforts are only for Pakistan and the Muslim Ummah. That’s why he comes forward to bring a change from the bottom.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:56 PM
Slogan of 'Islam is the best' does not cut it. Its a reaction to western and modern development, but Muslims have not done much thinking, have not developed dynamic philosophies, systems, models, to implement as they use too.
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 02:11 PM
dude wat r u talikig abt, revolution?? Europeans came up with socialism, communism, fascism, capitalism etc. Muslims came up with nothing. Pakistan's political system is western based mixed with Islamic base. Wat?
Slogan of 'Islam is the best' does not cut it. Its a reaction to western and modern development, but Muslims have not done much thinking, have not developed dynamic philosophies, systems, models, to implement as they use too.
Brother we (including me) must learn more about Islamic history. There are a lot of Muslims who contributed to mankind in the fields of science, astrology, mathematics, medical science and other fields. Unfortunately Muslims are living in a poor standard but we must not discourage ourselves and discredit the Muslim scientists whose works were also taught in European text books.
Islam is a complete code of life which also gives us the right systems and models. We must only implement them in the correct way. The reason why we are living in such miserable conditions nowadays is because we move ourselves away from Islamic principles. We are lying, misbehaving, we are corrupt and undisciplined, we are stealing the rights from the poor, we are harsh to others and doing other gross immoralities.
Instead the western world adopted our Islamic principles. They don´t believe in Islam but many of them are much better than a lot of Muslims. We only can do something good if we come back to Islam. The Ottoman Empire is a good example (Most of its period). Establishing an Islamic welfare state in Pakistan is also possible. After all it was the wish of our founding fathers. They firmly believed in it so should we do.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:15 PM
http://www.dailymoti...3dec-promo_news
5% Corrupt Mafia is Ruling Pakistan-95%
http://www.dailymoti...-democracy_news
3 years Care Taker National Government under Supreme Court
http://www.dailymoti...r-ul-qadri_news
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:48 PM
Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri has said that Iqbal’s Pakistan is under serious threats both ideologically as well as territorially. He said that the country, which came into being on the basis of Allama Dr Muhammad Iqbal’s thought, had been drifting from his message.
Addressing a seminar organized by Minhaj-ul-Quran Youth League to mark Allama Iqbal’s birth anniversary, Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that political mafias held the future of this country hostage. He said that for last six decades, their hold on the national resources and decision-making processes had been getting stronger with the passage of time. He said that the system erected in the name of ‘democracy’ by the vested interests was ironically bereft of what this system actually stood for.
Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that given the complexity and plethora of challenges facing Pakistan, it was important to explore our ideological roots. He said that terrorism and extremism grew in the society because we put Iqbal’s message on the backburner.
Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri asked youth and students to become true Eagles of Iqbal by dedicating themselves to nation building. He said that this was possible if they put their energies to productive use and acquired modern education. He said that a major chunk of Pakistan’s population consisted of youth and the country’s future was in their hands. He said that it was time that we saved the country and not politics.
Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri paid glowing tributes to Iqbal. He said that MQI espoused Iqbal’s message and was struggling to put his dream into reality. He said that Iqbal’s philosophy was still relevant and a beacon of light in these dark times. He said that Iqbal’s was a towering personality who is born after centuries. The seminar was attended by a large number of youth and their students.
http://www.minhaj.or...ir-ul-Qadri.htm
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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:54 PM

A dedication to my Pakistani brothers and sisters
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:34 PM
Qazi Hussain Ahmad tweets : 'I am thankful to Shaykh ul Islam Tahir-ul-Qadri for his telephone, thoughts and prayers. I will welcome him on 23 December for meeting.'
https://twitter.com/...959355430588416
Something to think about....
http://youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6xVn3cxaSE0
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