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[Asian Union]

ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) with new global reach: The caliphate Map declares Pakistan part of Khorasan region:

 

 

[Asian Union]

[Dizasta]

ISIS ...... The Saudi-Salafi bedouin illiterates. Who hijacked Islam to promote their ignorant, backward and pagan ideals. They are using the research work of Islamic Scholarship about the Black Flag Army and using it to somehow claim that they are the ones. They nothing more than proponents of Wahhabism, backed by the enormous Oil-Wealth of Jazeerah-tul-Arab. Also to not forget, that these illiterate bedouins are the Najdis that Sahabas were warned of by Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassallaam. These hyenas have an anti-Shi'ite agenda, to slaughter as many as they can. And the worse part is, that they use Islam as the reason for their actions.

No mass slaughter done on the basis of a religion, God and/or Prophet. Is considered legitimate, acceptable or justifiable.

[Asian Union]

ISIS video release in English, showing thier new plan, captured items, vehicles & prisoners :

https://m.facebook.c...388529&refid=52

[clutch]

These terrorists blow-up a prison full of unarmed surrendered prisoners at the end of the video... that is utterly haram and against islam.

Asian Union is confused (or a knowing proponant) of this khawaiji fithna... shame.

[platinum786]

I wouldn't lose much sleep. We've seen of worse enemies than ISIS. Pakistan has fought of equally vicious Taliban for the last 10 years, we've faced the vast might of the Indian army, ISIS...lol

[noxiouspython]

Aoa

 

 

These guys would have to cross Iran to get to us - and I don't see that happening any time soon. 

There is no vacuum in Afghanistan that they can fill - the Afghan Taliban are doing a fine job so it's unlikely they will be able to move their in sufficient numbers to do anything substantial.

 

They would first have to establish their power and control over their existing territory - and maybe get some sea port under control also for easy trade. Then tackle the financial issue - cause once they do that no one is going to fund a country. Then if they do manage to do that also - well liberating Al Aqsa is more important then Pakistan to the Arabs (Or should be). So you know.. I don't see any immediate threat to Pakistan.

 

Middle East could really be threatened by these guys though if they manage to gain a foothold.

 

BTW these guys are too fanatical and barbaric for anyone's taste. Had they been somewhat less violent - maybe - maybe - they could have had a better chance.

 

w/salaam 

[SLD10]

How is it possible that only where muslims are, there are extremists like those b4st4rds ?

[Felicius]

well liberating Al Aqsa is more important then Pakistan to the Arabs (Or should be). 

 

 

They are terrorists, they have no such intentions of a caliphate. Perhaps an excuse to gain support and momentum.

They are killing people indiscriminately, destroying Muslim countries, anyone who even supports their agenda has a terrorist mind set as well - they use Islamic terminology do deceive people only; doesn't mean a thing.

 

Israel is more important yet they march into Iraq from Syria? They don't want to liberate Lebanese land, Golan Heights, or Palestine? They want to invade stable Muslim countries instead?

[cheif No 1]

I think They must take Iran FIRST, WHY because Iran is the Top Ally of Israel in the region. If Iran fall Jerusalem will be a piece of cake. 

[irfan_kashmir]

i do not understand why they are not planning to capture who world  ????

[Asian Union]

Meanwhile in the West, UK this is the thinking seem to start now.

Ian Morris: A dark ancient warning about a new caliphate

The Isis leader Abu Bakral-Baghdadi is working from a 1,400-year-old playbook and has learned its lessons well

 

Thirteen centuries ago an Islamic caliphate stretched from Portugal to Pakistan, ruling one-fifth of the world’s population. Now the caliphate is back.

 

Admittedly, the caliphate proclaimed on Sunday by the Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (Isis) is not much to look at. It commands just a few thousand poorly armed fanatics in ragtag bands. The great powers could crush it in a few days if they made the effort.

 

Yet the original caliphate was not much to look at either — to start with, anyway. The original caliphs also commanded just a few thousand fanatics. They began infiltrating out of the Arabian Desert in the 630s AD, fuelled by the new faith of Islam. The great powers — Persia and Byzantium —could have crushed the uprising with ease if they had made the effort.

 

But they didn’t make the effort. Each great power thought that acting would cost too much. Or that crushing the insurgents would rebound to the other great power’s advantage. Or that its subjects were weary of war. With so many reasons not to act, neither great power did anything.

 

Cut adrift, local resistance to the insurgents simply melted away, just as the Iraqi army did at Mosul three weeks ago. In the year 639 the whole of Egypt surrendered to just 4,000 Muslim insurgents — roughly the same number that Isis currently commands. The entire Persian Empire collapsed just a few years after.

 

Right now, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the 21st-century caliph, does not look so dangerous. Isis is full of rival factions. Even al Qaeda has rejected it. Much the same was true, though, of the first caliph. This man, also called Abu Bakr, invented the job of “caliph” in the critical hours after the prophet Mohammed died in 632.

 

Islam was then just a chaotic insurgency, and its anarchic Arab warlords wanted nothing to do with a king. A caliph was a different matter. The Arabic word “khalifa” means “deputy” (to Allah) and “successor” (to Mohammed), but not “ruler”, and so Abu Bakr set himself up as a caliph.

 

The downside was that Abu Bakr could not force anyone to do what he said — but that had never been a possibility anyway. The upside was that his religious authority could inspire insurgent cells to share the same enemies. Alliances could shift, bands of fanatics could join in or drop out, but the fight would go on.

 

The new caliph, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, understands all this. He also knows that being a caliph has always been as much about fighting other Muslims as Christians or Jews. In 680, Mohammed’s grandson Husayn rebelled against the caliphs. Only Mohammed’s blood relatives, Husayn claimed, had the right to lead Islam. Non-relatives who called themselves caliphs were tyrants to be overthrown.

 

Husayn was soon killed, but Muslims began splitting into two camps — the Shiites, who belonged to a faction (in Arabic, a shi‘a) following Husayn, and the Sunni, who followed custom (in Arabic, sunna). A Sunni caliph’s first task is to kill Shiites, and so Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has gone on a rampage of amputations, beheadings, and even crucifixions.

 

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is working from a 1,400-year-old playbook, and has learned its lessons well. If we want to stop him, we must also learn from history. We must act now.

 

Ian Morris is Professor of Classics at Stanford University and author of War: What is it Good For? (Profile, 2014).

 

http://www.standard....te-9575569.html

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/

 

[Felicius]

This is no caliphate, this is hooliganism - Kidnapping and killing doctors, holding nurses hostage at the Tikrit Teaching Hospital.

To gain public support giving it the colour of Islam.

[Felicius]

They are disturbed by the HR violations of Maliki in Iraq, but the massacre of Palestinians was of no issue at all right? While Israel is a stones throw away from Syria, they thought marching towards Iran would solve all the problems.

 

Oh WoW, this will make every infidel convert to Islam! These terrorists are doing a huge disservice to Muslims.

Edited by Felicius, 01 July 2014 - 09:56 PM.

[clutch]

This is no caliphate, this is hooliganism - Kidnapping and killing doctors, holding nurses hostage at the Tikrit Teaching Hospital.
To gain public support giving it the colour of Islam.

+1

[clutch]

This is no caliphate, this is hooliganism - Kidnapping and killing doctors, holding nurses hostage at the Tikrit Teaching Hospital.
To gain public support giving it the colour of Islam.

+1

[sfhussain]

Hooliganism is now part of govt and political parties. Welcome to "Gulloo Butt" culture.

[SLD10]

This is no caliphate, this is hooliganism - Kidnapping and killing doctors, holding nurses hostage at the Tikrit Teaching Hospital.

To gain public support giving it the colour of Islam.

 

+1000

 

 

 

Hooliganism is now part of govt and political parties. Welcome to "Gulloo Butt" culture.

 

+ 1000

 

and may i remind that mafia style is also in our political cutlure... be it democratic parties or feudal vadera, zamindar and co...

[butterfly]

Meanwhile in the West, UK this is the thinking seem to start now.Ian Morris: A dark ancient warning about a new caliphateThe Isis leader Abu Bakral-Baghdadi is working from a 1,400-year-old playbook and has learned its lessons well
 
Thirteen centuries ago an Islamic caliphate stretched from Portugal to Pakistan, ruling one-fifth of the world’s population. Now the caliphate is back.

 
Admittedly, the caliphate proclaimed on Sunday by the Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (Isis) is not much to look at. It commands just a few thousand poorly armed fanatics in ragtag bands. The great powers could crush it in a few days if they made the effort.
 
Yet the original caliphate was not much to look at either — to start with, anyway. The original caliphs also commanded just a few thousand fanatics. They began infiltrating out of the Arabian Desert in the 630s AD, fuelled by the new faith of Islam. The great powers — Persia and Byzantium —could have crushed the uprising with ease if they had made the effort.
 
But they didn’t make the effort. Each great power thought that acting would cost too much. Or that crushing the insurgents would rebound to the other great power’s advantage. Or that its subjects were weary of war. With so many reasons not to act, neither great power did anything.
 
Cut adrift, local resistance to the insurgents simply melted away, just as the Iraqi army did at Mosul three weeks ago. In the year 639 the whole of Egypt surrendered to just 4,000 Muslim insurgents — roughly the same number that Isis currently commands. The entire Persian Empire collapsed just a few years after.
 
Right now, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the 21st-century caliph, does not look so dangerous. Isis is full of rival factions. Even al Qaeda has rejected it. Much the same was true, though, of the first caliph. This man, also called Abu Bakr, invented the job of “caliph” in the critical hours after the prophet Mohammed died in 632.
 
Islam was then just a chaotic insurgency, and its anarchic Arab warlords wanted nothing to do with a king. A caliph was a different matter. The Arabic word “khalifa” means “deputy” (to Allah) and “successor” (to Mohammed), but not “ruler”, and so Abu Bakr set himself up as a caliph.
 
The downside was that Abu Bakr could not force anyone to do what he said — but that had never been a possibility anyway. The upside was that his religious authority could inspire insurgent cells to share the same enemies. Alliances could shift, bands of fanatics could join in or drop out, but the fight would go on.
 
The new caliph, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, understands all this. He also knows that being a caliph has always been as much about fighting other Muslims as Christians or Jews. In 680, Mohammed’s grandson Husayn rebelled against the caliphs. Only Mohammed’s blood relatives, Husayn claimed, had the right to lead Islam. Non-relatives who called themselves caliphs were tyrants to be overthrown.
 
Husayn was soon killed, but Muslims began splitting into two camps — the Shiites, who belonged to a faction (in Arabic, a shi‘a) following Husayn, and the Sunni, who followed custom (in Arabic, sunna). A Sunni caliph’s first task is to kill Shiites, and so Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has gone on a rampage of amputations, beheadings, and even crucifixions.
 
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is working from a 1,400-year-old playbook, and has learned its lessons well. If we want to stop him, we must also learn from history. We must act now.
 
Ian Morris is Professor of Classics at Stanford University and author of War: What is it Good For? (Profile, 2014).
 
http://www.standard....te-9575569.html
 
http://www.standard.co.uk/

How can such garbage be allowed to be published. Then posted here???

[Felicius]

^ I see that too, that some members do use PDF as a Propaganda page for extremists/ terrorists.

Let the Admins handle that; if I take action then I am liberal or Karachi wala.

 

Cannibals and mass murderer have been elevated to pious muslims of the Islamic Caliphate

[butterfly]

^ I see that too, that some members do use PDF as a Propaganda page for extremists/ terrorists.
Let the Admins handle that; if I take action then I am liberal or Karachi wala.
 
Cannibals and mass murderer have been elevated to pious muslims of the Islamic Caliphate

Looool.

[butterfly]

Trouble is in the Muslim world as a whole we have a lot of tyrants and thieves a leaders. I accept they are a reflection of us. Unfortunately it's this disgruntled mass that AQ and ISIS exploit. I am sure even in Pakistan they will have a huge following simply because they are in opposition to the mainstream parties and also project themselves as sharia compliant. Men will follow without question.

Allah gave us a brain but unfortunately we simply do not wish to use it.

[irfan_kashmir]

Muslim world as a whole we have a lot of tyrants and thieves a leaders , now who has to be blamed for that its the muslim and people like Zaid hamid will definitely will lead ISIS in Pakistan ......  

[akthus]

Who gives the most publicity to these terrorists ? The western world.

 

Alqaeda and now ISIS are just tools of the west manufactured by them and funded by them . They serve no muslim agenda . Its purpose is to discredit Islam and bring disunity to the muslim world.

 

If these people were for the muslim religion then they would liberate Palestine and bring about the destruction of Israel which as of now is killing innocent children, men , women in Gaza.

 

How come ISIS is not attacking the Saudi rulers who spend billions in America and indirectly support Israel ?

 

Most likely the funding will be coming from the corrupt and immoral Saudi Leadership.

 

ISIS are terrorists and criminals and deserve no place in a civilised modern society.

[complicated]

Who gives the most publicity to these terrorists ? The western world.

 

Alqaeda and now ISIS are just tools of the west manufactured by them and funded by them . They serve no muslim agenda . Its purpose is to discredit Islam and bring disunity to the muslim world.

 

If these people were for the muslim religion then they would liberate Palestine and bring about the destruction of Israel which as of now is killing innocent children, men , women in Gaza.

 

How come ISIS is not attacking the Saudi rulers who spend billions in America and indirectly support Israel ?

 

Most likely the funding will be coming from the corrupt and immoral Saudi Leadership.

 

ISIS are terrorists and criminals and deserve no place in a civilised modern society.

 

The are first going to fight all the not so good muslims, after that they are going to move towards Jerusalem. Atleast thats what there website says. http://abu-ali-al-baghdadi.tumblr.com/

 

They have listed 3 reasons to fight with fellow muslims. Here is the link to that http://abu-ali-al-ba...eclare-jihad-in

 

I am also going to paste those here.

 

First answer comes from Allah Almighty, when mentioned in some of the verses on hypocrites who are the biggest threat to Muslims than enemies of Allah and the enemies of Muslims, the Jews and Crusaders

 

Secondly, the answer comes from the Messenger of Allah’s Khalifa Abu Bakr may Allah be pleased with him, when he fought the apostates before the conquest of Jerusalem, which was later conquered by the faithful Omar ibn al-Khattab may Allah be pleased with him

 

Thirdly, the answer comes from Saladin and Nur ad-Din Zangi when they were fighting Shiites in Egypt and the Levant before the conquest of Jerusalem, where they lead more than 50 battles before reaching Jerusalem

[blueazure]

ISIS is the latest incarnation of the global war on islam, the west, too tired physically and financially to send its boots on ground is now using these proxy elements to further its agenda of making muslim nations insignificant .  the arab springs were a god send for the US and israel who very cleverly manipulated the street protests into full blown civil war insurgencies ( take syria ) . the funding and support of rebel factions fighting assad is no secret. now the same beast is unleashed on iraq and iran, 

[Asian Union]

ISIS experimental Islamic city of Raqqa

 

Long before extremists rolled through Iraq and seized a large piece of territory, the group known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria took over most of Raqqa Province, home to about a million people, and established a headquarters in its capital. Through strategic management and brute force, the group, which now calls itself simply the Islamic State, has begun imposing its vision of a state that blends its fundamentalist interpretation of Islam with the practicalities of governance.

 

In time, it has won the surprising respect of some war-weary citizens, like Qadri, who will accept any authority that can restore a semblance of normal life. 

 

In Raqqa city, traffic police officers keep intersections clear, crime is rare and tax collectors issue receipts. But statues like the landmark lions in Al Rasheed Park have been destroyed because they were considered blasphemous. Public spaces like Al Amasy Square, where young men and women once hung out and flirted in the evenings, have been walled off with heavy metal fences topped with the black flags of ISIS. People accused of stealing have lost their hands in public amputations.

 

“What I see in Raqqa proves that the Islamic State has a clear vision to establish a state in the real meaning of the word,” said a retired teacher in the city of Raqqa. “It is not a joke.”

 

To those entering Raqqa, ISIS makes clear, immediately, who is in charge.

 

At the southern entrance to the city, visitors were once greeted by a towering mosaic of President Bashar al-Assad and Haroun al-Rasheed, the caliph who ruled the Islamic world from Raqqa in the ninth century. Now there is a towering black billboard that pays homage to ISIS and to the so-called martyrs who died fighting for its cause.

 

Raqqa’s City Hall houses the Islamic Services Commission. The former office of the Finance Ministry contains the sharia court and the criminal police. The traffic police are based in the First Shariah High School. Raqqa’s Credit Bank is now the tax authority, where employees collect $20 every two months from shop owners for electricity, water and security. Many said that they received official receipts stamped with the ISIS logo and that the fees were less than they used to pay in bribes to Mr. Assad’s government.

 

“I feel like I am dealing with a respected state, not thugs,” said a Raqqa goldsmith in his small shop as a woman shopped for gold pieces with cash sent from abroad by her husband.

 

Raqqa is a test case for ISIS, But it is here in this agricultural hub that it has had the most time to turn its ideology into reality.

 

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The few Christians who remain pay a minority tax of a few dollars per month. When ISIS’s religious police officers patrol to make sure shops close during Muslim prayers, the Christians must obey, too.

 

Raqqa’s three churches, once home to an active Christian minority, have all been shuttered. After capturing the largest, the Armenian Catholic Martyrs Church, ISIS removed its crosses, hung black flags from its facade and converted it into an Islamic center that screens videos of battles and suicide operations to recruit new fighters.

 

The religious police have banned public smoking of cigarettes and water pipes.

 

They also make sure that women cover their hair and faces in public.

 

Hints of this international mobilization are already apparent in Raqqa, where gunmen at checkpoints are often Saudi, Egyptian, Tunisian or Libyan. Raqqa’s emir of electricity is Sudanese, and one hospital is run by a Jordanian who reports to an Egyptian boss, according to Syrians who work under them.

 

After ISIS’s advance into Iraq last month, the Jordanian went to Mosul to help organize a hospital there before returning to Raqqa.

 

“He talked with an eager shine in his eyes, saying that the caliphate of the Islamic State that began in Raqqa would spread over the whole region,” one of his employees said.

 

http://www.nytimes.c...ner=rss&emc=rss

[blueazure]

^^ so when is ISIS going to GAZA ? 

[Skull-Buster]

^^^ When their real Khalifah Hazrat Barack al-Obama tells them to.

[Metanoia]

[cheif No 1]

Motivational video made by Fuad Hadi of Hizbullah channel. They have gathered a crowed not the fighters and 75%of them will change their clothes and lit up Sheesha once face real fight like Iraqi highly trained Army.

[cheif No 1]

^^ so when is ISIS going to GAZA ?

May be as soon as the Eastern front is secure. They are under constant pressure from Iran and its allied in the region to keep this front manned so they can not enter Palestine.

I don't see any Muslim government to take on Israel and all are trying to secure their borders with Israel for the sake of Israel. Though we have witnessed too many promises to burn Israel but none has been fulfilled yet. Lets see if ISIS will do some thing practical instead of war rhetoric and fake promises like other and calling of days for protest against Zionist occupation.

[akthus]

Alqaeda and Isis are all controlled by America and to some extent even Israel. Back in 2001 I think an alqaeda cell in Palestine was caught and the members turned out to be Mossad agents.

[Metanoia]

 

 

 

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[cheif No 1]

 

 

 

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Also @complicated and @pak-eye can do the same lol

 

 

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[Felicius]

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[cheif No 1]

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Sounds like an expert Allama

[Metanoia]

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[cheif No 1]

Metanoia Muta Beauro: I wonder what is the slogan.

[Metanoia]

hmmmm......not a bad idea

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