ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) with new global reach: The caliphate Map declares Pakistan part of Khorasan region:
GENERAL
Posted 30 June 2014 - 10:11 PM
ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) with new global reach: The caliphate Map declares Pakistan part of Khorasan region:
GENERAL
Posted 30 June 2014 - 10:17 PM
GENERAL
Posted 01 July 2014 - 03:17 AM
GENERAL
Posted 01 July 2014 - 06:16 AM
GENERAL
Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:25 AM
GENERAL
Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:31 AM
GENERAL
Posted 01 July 2014 - 12:09 PM
Aoa
These guys would have to cross Iran to get to us - and I don't see that happening any time soon.
There is no vacuum in Afghanistan that they can fill - the Afghan Taliban are doing a fine job so it's unlikely they will be able to move their in sufficient numbers to do anything substantial.
They would first have to establish their power and control over their existing territory - and maybe get some sea port under control also for easy trade. Then tackle the financial issue - cause once they do that no one is going to fund a country. Then if they do manage to do that also - well liberating Al Aqsa is more important then Pakistan to the Arabs (Or should be). So you know.. I don't see any immediate threat to Pakistan.
Middle East could really be threatened by these guys though if they manage to gain a foothold.
BTW these guys are too fanatical and barbaric for anyone's taste. Had they been somewhat less violent - maybe - maybe - they could have had a better chance.
w/salaam
MAJOR
Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:02 PM
Admiral
Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:19 PM
well liberating Al Aqsa is more important then Pakistan to the Arabs (Or should be).
They are terrorists, they have no such intentions of a caliphate. Perhaps an excuse to gain support and momentum.
They are killing people indiscriminately, destroying Muslim countries, anyone who even supports their agenda has a terrorist mind set as well - they use Islamic terminology do deceive people only; doesn't mean a thing.
Israel is more important yet they march into Iraq from Syria? They don't want to liberate Lebanese land, Golan Heights, or Palestine? They want to invade stable Muslim countries instead?
BRIGADIER
Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:43 PM
I think They must take Iran FIRST, WHY because Iran is the Top Ally of Israel in the region. If Iran fall Jerusalem will be a piece of cake.
COLONEL
Posted 01 July 2014 - 03:41 PM
i do not understand why they are not planning to capture who world ????
GENERAL
Posted 01 July 2014 - 06:20 PM
Meanwhile in the West, UK this is the thinking seem to start now.
Ian Morris: A dark ancient warning about a new caliphate
The Isis leader Abu Bakral-Baghdadi is working from a 1,400-year-old playbook and has learned its lessons well
Thirteen centuries ago an Islamic caliphate stretched from Portugal to Pakistan, ruling one-fifth of the world’s population. Now the caliphate is back.
Admittedly, the caliphate proclaimed on Sunday by the Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (Isis) is not much to look at. It commands just a few thousand poorly armed fanatics in ragtag bands. The great powers could crush it in a few days if they made the effort.
Yet the original caliphate was not much to look at either — to start with, anyway. The original caliphs also commanded just a few thousand fanatics. They began infiltrating out of the Arabian Desert in the 630s AD, fuelled by the new faith of Islam. The great powers — Persia and Byzantium —could have crushed the uprising with ease if they had made the effort.
But they didn’t make the effort. Each great power thought that acting would cost too much. Or that crushing the insurgents would rebound to the other great power’s advantage. Or that its subjects were weary of war. With so many reasons not to act, neither great power did anything.
Cut adrift, local resistance to the insurgents simply melted away, just as the Iraqi army did at Mosul three weeks ago. In the year 639 the whole of Egypt surrendered to just 4,000 Muslim insurgents — roughly the same number that Isis currently commands. The entire Persian Empire collapsed just a few years after.
Right now, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the 21st-century caliph, does not look so dangerous. Isis is full of rival factions. Even al Qaeda has rejected it. Much the same was true, though, of the first caliph. This man, also called Abu Bakr, invented the job of “caliph” in the critical hours after the prophet Mohammed died in 632.
Islam was then just a chaotic insurgency, and its anarchic Arab warlords wanted nothing to do with a king. A caliph was a different matter. The Arabic word “khalifa” means “deputy” (to Allah) and “successor” (to Mohammed), but not “ruler”, and so Abu Bakr set himself up as a caliph.
The downside was that Abu Bakr could not force anyone to do what he said — but that had never been a possibility anyway. The upside was that his religious authority could inspire insurgent cells to share the same enemies. Alliances could shift, bands of fanatics could join in or drop out, but the fight would go on.
The new caliph, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, understands all this. He also knows that being a caliph has always been as much about fighting other Muslims as Christians or Jews. In 680, Mohammed’s grandson Husayn rebelled against the caliphs. Only Mohammed’s blood relatives, Husayn claimed, had the right to lead Islam. Non-relatives who called themselves caliphs were tyrants to be overthrown.
Husayn was soon killed, but Muslims began splitting into two camps — the Shiites, who belonged to a faction (in Arabic, a shi‘a) following Husayn, and the Sunni, who followed custom (in Arabic, sunna). A Sunni caliph’s first task is to kill Shiites, and so Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has gone on a rampage of amputations, beheadings, and even crucifixions.
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is working from a 1,400-year-old playbook, and has learned its lessons well. If we want to stop him, we must also learn from history. We must act now.
Ian Morris is Professor of Classics at Stanford University and author of War: What is it Good For? (Profile, 2014).
http://www.standard....te-9575569.html
Admiral
Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:45 PM
This is no caliphate, this is hooliganism - Kidnapping and killing doctors, holding nurses hostage at the Tikrit Teaching Hospital.
To gain public support giving it the colour of Islam.
Admiral
Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:51 PM
They are disturbed by the HR violations of Maliki in Iraq, but the massacre of Palestinians was of no issue at all right? While Israel is a stones throw away from Syria, they thought marching towards Iran would solve all the problems.
Oh WoW, this will make every infidel convert to Islam! These terrorists are doing a huge disservice to Muslims.
Edited by Felicius, 01 July 2014 - 09:56 PM.
GENERAL
Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:27 PM
This is no caliphate, this is hooliganism - Kidnapping and killing doctors, holding nurses hostage at the Tikrit Teaching Hospital.
To gain public support giving it the colour of Islam.
GENERAL
Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:27 PM
This is no caliphate, this is hooliganism - Kidnapping and killing doctors, holding nurses hostage at the Tikrit Teaching Hospital.
To gain public support giving it the colour of Islam.
Joint Chief
Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:46 AM
Hooliganism is now part of govt and political parties. Welcome to "Gulloo Butt" culture.
MAJOR
Posted 02 July 2014 - 02:58 AM
This is no caliphate, this is hooliganism - Kidnapping and killing doctors, holding nurses hostage at the Tikrit Teaching Hospital.
To gain public support giving it the colour of Islam.
+1000
Hooliganism is now part of govt and political parties. Welcome to "Gulloo Butt" culture.
+ 1000
and may i remind that mafia style is also in our political cutlure... be it democratic parties or feudal vadera, zamindar and co...
GENERAL
Posted 02 July 2014 - 05:19 AM
Meanwhile in the West, UK this is the thinking seem to start now.Ian Morris: A dark ancient warning about a new caliphateThe Isis leader Abu Bakral-Baghdadi is working from a 1,400-year-old playbook and has learned its lessons well
Thirteen centuries ago an Islamic caliphate stretched from Portugal to Pakistan, ruling one-fifth of the world’s population. Now the caliphate is back.
Admittedly, the caliphate proclaimed on Sunday by the Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (Isis) is not much to look at. It commands just a few thousand poorly armed fanatics in ragtag bands. The great powers could crush it in a few days if they made the effort.
Yet the original caliphate was not much to look at either — to start with, anyway. The original caliphs also commanded just a few thousand fanatics. They began infiltrating out of the Arabian Desert in the 630s AD, fuelled by the new faith of Islam. The great powers — Persia and Byzantium —could have crushed the uprising with ease if they had made the effort.
But they didn’t make the effort. Each great power thought that acting would cost too much. Or that crushing the insurgents would rebound to the other great power’s advantage. Or that its subjects were weary of war. With so many reasons not to act, neither great power did anything.
Cut adrift, local resistance to the insurgents simply melted away, just as the Iraqi army did at Mosul three weeks ago. In the year 639 the whole of Egypt surrendered to just 4,000 Muslim insurgents — roughly the same number that Isis currently commands. The entire Persian Empire collapsed just a few years after.
Right now, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the 21st-century caliph, does not look so dangerous. Isis is full of rival factions. Even al Qaeda has rejected it. Much the same was true, though, of the first caliph. This man, also called Abu Bakr, invented the job of “caliph” in the critical hours after the prophet Mohammed died in 632.
Islam was then just a chaotic insurgency, and its anarchic Arab warlords wanted nothing to do with a king. A caliph was a different matter. The Arabic word “khalifa” means “deputy” (to Allah) and “successor” (to Mohammed), but not “ruler”, and so Abu Bakr set himself up as a caliph.
The downside was that Abu Bakr could not force anyone to do what he said — but that had never been a possibility anyway. The upside was that his religious authority could inspire insurgent cells to share the same enemies. Alliances could shift, bands of fanatics could join in or drop out, but the fight would go on.
The new caliph, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, understands all this. He also knows that being a caliph has always been as much about fighting other Muslims as Christians or Jews. In 680, Mohammed’s grandson Husayn rebelled against the caliphs. Only Mohammed’s blood relatives, Husayn claimed, had the right to lead Islam. Non-relatives who called themselves caliphs were tyrants to be overthrown.
Husayn was soon killed, but Muslims began splitting into two camps — the Shiites, who belonged to a faction (in Arabic, a shi‘a) following Husayn, and the Sunni, who followed custom (in Arabic, sunna). A Sunni caliph’s first task is to kill Shiites, and so Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has gone on a rampage of amputations, beheadings, and even crucifixions.
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is working from a 1,400-year-old playbook, and has learned its lessons well. If we want to stop him, we must also learn from history. We must act now.
Ian Morris is Professor of Classics at Stanford University and author of War: What is it Good For? (Profile, 2014).
http://www.standard....te-9575569.html
http://www.standard.co.uk/
Admiral
Posted 02 July 2014 - 08:23 AM
^ I see that too, that some members do use PDF as a Propaganda page for extremists/ terrorists.
Let the Admins handle that; if I take action then I am liberal or Karachi wala.
Cannibals and mass murderer have been elevated to pious muslims of the Islamic Caliphate
GENERAL
Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:02 AM
^ I see that too, that some members do use PDF as a Propaganda page for extremists/ terrorists.
Let the Admins handle that; if I take action then I am liberal or Karachi wala.
Cannibals and mass murderer have been elevated to pious muslims of the Islamic Caliphate
GENERAL
Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:05 AM
COLONEL
Posted 02 July 2014 - 05:07 PM
Muslim world as a whole we have a lot of tyrants and thieves a leaders , now who has to be blamed for that its the muslim and people like Zaid hamid will definitely will lead ISIS in Pakistan ......
COLONEL
Posted 15 July 2014 - 02:21 PM
Who gives the most publicity to these terrorists ? The western world.
Alqaeda and now ISIS are just tools of the west manufactured by them and funded by them . They serve no muslim agenda . Its purpose is to discredit Islam and bring disunity to the muslim world.
If these people were for the muslim religion then they would liberate Palestine and bring about the destruction of Israel which as of now is killing innocent children, men , women in Gaza.
How come ISIS is not attacking the Saudi rulers who spend billions in America and indirectly support Israel ?
Most likely the funding will be coming from the corrupt and immoral Saudi Leadership.
ISIS are terrorists and criminals and deserve no place in a civilised modern society.
MAJOR
Posted 15 July 2014 - 10:50 PM
Who gives the most publicity to these terrorists ? The western world.
Alqaeda and now ISIS are just tools of the west manufactured by them and funded by them . They serve no muslim agenda . Its purpose is to discredit Islam and bring disunity to the muslim world.
If these people were for the muslim religion then they would liberate Palestine and bring about the destruction of Israel which as of now is killing innocent children, men , women in Gaza.
How come ISIS is not attacking the Saudi rulers who spend billions in America and indirectly support Israel ?
Most likely the funding will be coming from the corrupt and immoral Saudi Leadership.
ISIS are terrorists and criminals and deserve no place in a civilised modern society.
The are first going to fight all the not so good muslims, after that they are going to move towards Jerusalem. Atleast thats what there website says. http://abu-ali-al-baghdadi.tumblr.com/
They have listed 3 reasons to fight with fellow muslims. Here is the link to that http://abu-ali-al-ba...eclare-jihad-in
I am also going to paste those here.
First answer comes from Allah Almighty, when mentioned in some of the verses on hypocrites who are the biggest threat to Muslims than enemies of Allah and the enemies of Muslims, the Jews and Crusaders
Secondly, the answer comes from the Messenger of Allah’s Khalifa Abu Bakr may Allah be pleased with him, when he fought the apostates before the conquest of Jerusalem, which was later conquered by the faithful Omar ibn al-Khattab may Allah be pleased with him
Thirdly, the answer comes from Saladin and Nur ad-Din Zangi when they were fighting Shiites in Egypt and the Levant before the conquest of Jerusalem, where they lead more than 50 battles before reaching Jerusalem
GENERAL
Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:43 AM
ISIS is the latest incarnation of the global war on islam, the west, too tired physically and financially to send its boots on ground is now using these proxy elements to further its agenda of making muslim nations insignificant . the arab springs were a god send for the US and israel who very cleverly manipulated the street protests into full blown civil war insurgencies ( take syria ) . the funding and support of rebel factions fighting assad is no secret. now the same beast is unleashed on iraq and iran,
@blueazure47
GENERAL
Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:48 AM
GENERAL
GENERAL
Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:28 AM
^^^ When their real Khalifah Hazrat Barack al-Obama tells them to.
BRIGADIER
Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:53 AM
1) “We but teach bloody instructions which, being taught, return to plague the inventor” — Macbeth, Act 1, scene 7
2) "It is cream that rises to the top of milk. It is scum that rises to the top of a dirty pond."
BRIGADIER
Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:10 AM
BRIGADIER
Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:15 AM
^^ so when is ISIS going to GAZA ?
COLONEL
Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:09 AM
BRIGADIER
Posted 29 July 2014 - 09:27 AM
@Chief.no.1: I think the offer might also cover their online warriors.......apply kardou jald sey jald
Also @complicated and @pak-eye can do the same lol
1) “We but teach bloody instructions which, being taught, return to plague the inventor” — Macbeth, Act 1, scene 7
2) "It is cream that rises to the top of milk. It is scum that rises to the top of a dirty pond."
BRIGADIER
Posted 29 July 2014 - 10:24 AM
@Chief.no.1: I think the offer might also cover their online warriors.......apply kardou jald sey jald
Also @complicated and @pak-eye can do the same lol
I already overwhelmed with MUTA marriages better luck next time
Admiral
Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:37 PM
Muta is short-term, and bachon key bas ki baat nahi hai to control women. Should go for Misyar next time.
BRIGADIER
Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:39 PM
Muta is short-term, and bachon key bas ki baat nahi hai to control women. Should go for Misyar next time.
Sounds like an expert Allama
BRIGADIER
Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:28 PM
@Chief no.1 : You can send up to four applications per person...special eid offer.....jaldi karou yaar
1) “We but teach bloody instructions which, being taught, return to plague the inventor” — Macbeth, Act 1, scene 7
2) "It is cream that rises to the top of milk. It is scum that rises to the top of a dirty pond."
BRIGADIER
BRIGADIER
Posted 30 July 2014 - 02:09 PM
hmmmm......not a bad idea
Muta Brothel Bureau......You want a membership card brother chief? lol
1) “We but teach bloody instructions which, being taught, return to plague the inventor” — Macbeth, Act 1, scene 7
2) "It is cream that rises to the top of milk. It is scum that rises to the top of a dirty pond."
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