if im not mistaken, ghyari is just in vicinity of goma base camp from where effectively the siachin war is fought
had it been goma ?
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US troops return to Pakistan for first time since being ordered to leave to aid avalanche recovery
By Dominic Di-Natale
Published April 10, 2012
| FoxNews.com
AP/Inter Services Public Relations
American troops have returned to Pakistan in what is believed to be the first requested-presence mission since the U.S. military was ordered to leave last year amid a meltdown in the countries' relations.
A team of eight U.S. military search-and-rescue experts has been dispatched from Afghanistan to assist in efforts to recover 138 mostly Pakistani soldiers trapped beneath an avalanche in northern Kashmir.
A U.S. military official in Kabul, speaking on the condition of anonymity due to the delicate status of the U.S.'s current relationship with Pakistan, told Fox News that the unit has not yet been tasked by the Pakistan military.
"The Pakistan military is still assessing the need, but they are there and ready to help," the official said in an email.
The U.S. was one of the first nations to offer assistance to Pakistan after the avalanche buried a small remote small base under 80-feet of snow on Saturday. The disaster happened at 22,000-ft. on the Siachen glacier in the Hindu-Kush mountains of the country's far north.
Some 112 Pakistani soldiers and 26 civilians are caught underneath the ice. So far, no one has been rescued alive and no bodies have been recovered while rescue efforts have been hampered by bad weather.
In November, the Islamabad government ordered the U.S. to withdraw its troops from Shamsi airbase where they had been supporting the Central Intelligence Agency's covert drone program amid a row over CIA operations.
The United States has maintained its Department of Defense presence at the embassy throughout that time, the U.S. military official said.
"That's a couple hundred people or so," the official added.
It is understood many are U.S. soldiers acting in an official or diplomatic capacity and are not a requested presence by Pakistan.
The Pakistani authorities, most especially the ISI spy agency, have been extremely reluctant to request American assistance in the Siachen avalanche. A Pakistani military official, requesting their name be undisclosed as they were not authorized to comment publicly on U.S.-Pak relations, told Fox News that Pakistan feels it was betrayed by the U.S. military when it last requested humanitarian assistance.
In 2010, American troops from Afghanistan were involved in months of relief missions during devastating floods but the official says the CIA used the opportunity to send in undercover agents and gain access to parts of the country where they would not normally be allowed or able to access.
By Dominic Di-Natale
Published April 10, 2012
| FoxNews.com
AP/Inter Services Public Relations
American troops have returned to Pakistan in what is believed to be the first requested-presence mission since the U.S. military was ordered to leave last year amid a meltdown in the countries' relations.
A team of eight U.S. military search-and-rescue experts has been dispatched from Afghanistan to assist in efforts to recover 138 mostly Pakistani soldiers trapped beneath an avalanche in northern Kashmir.
A U.S. military official in Kabul, speaking on the condition of anonymity due to the delicate status of the U.S.'s current relationship with Pakistan, told Fox News that the unit has not yet been tasked by the Pakistan military.
"The Pakistan military is still assessing the need, but they are there and ready to help," the official said in an email.
The U.S. was one of the first nations to offer assistance to Pakistan after the avalanche buried a small remote small base under 80-feet of snow on Saturday. The disaster happened at 22,000-ft. on the Siachen glacier in the Hindu-Kush mountains of the country's far north.
Some 112 Pakistani soldiers and 26 civilians are caught underneath the ice. So far, no one has been rescued alive and no bodies have been recovered while rescue efforts have been hampered by bad weather.
In November, the Islamabad government ordered the U.S. to withdraw its troops from Shamsi airbase where they had been supporting the Central Intelligence Agency's covert drone program amid a row over CIA operations.
The United States has maintained its Department of Defense presence at the embassy throughout that time, the U.S. military official said.
"That's a couple hundred people or so," the official added.
It is understood many are U.S. soldiers acting in an official or diplomatic capacity and are not a requested presence by Pakistan.
The Pakistani authorities, most especially the ISI spy agency, have been extremely reluctant to request American assistance in the Siachen avalanche. A Pakistani military official, requesting their name be undisclosed as they were not authorized to comment publicly on U.S.-Pak relations, told Fox News that Pakistan feels it was betrayed by the U.S. military when it last requested humanitarian assistance.
In 2010, American troops from Afghanistan were involved in months of relief missions during devastating floods but the official says the CIA used the opportunity to send in undercover agents and gain access to parts of the country where they would not normally be allowed or able to access.
SWEET IS SLEEP TO ME AND EVEN MORE TO BE OF STONE,
WHILE THE WRONG AND SHAME ENDURE.
TO BE WITHOUT SIGHT OR SENSE IS A MOST HAPPY CHANGE FOR ME,
THEREFORE DO NOT ROUSE ME. HUSH! SPEAK LOW.
I said to God "I hate Life" God replied "Who asked you to love life? Just Love me & life will be beautiful"
Living in favorable and unfavorable conditions is PART of living. Smiling in all those conditions is ART of living.
"Anytime you think you need to protect God, you can be sure you're worshiping an idol"
WHILE THE WRONG AND SHAME ENDURE.
TO BE WITHOUT SIGHT OR SENSE IS A MOST HAPPY CHANGE FOR ME,
THEREFORE DO NOT ROUSE ME. HUSH! SPEAK LOW.
I said to God "I hate Life" God replied "Who asked you to love life? Just Love me & life will be beautiful"
Living in favorable and unfavorable conditions is PART of living. Smiling in all those conditions is ART of living.
"Anytime you think you need to protect God, you can be sure you're worshiping an idol"
I've stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.
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http://dawn.com/2012...r-from-siachen/
A letter from Siachen
DAWN.COM | 7th April, 2012
Dear A,
“We, the willing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything, with nothing.”
This quotation was written diagonally on the first page of his diary as he showed me his poems. My host is a young man, whose spirits are still volatile despite the sub-zero temperature of this place. It is our first meeting. He does not know that the quotation is by mother Teresa, he does not know mother Teresa at all. He thinks it was said for him, dismissing any reason for researching its origins. The young man got engaged recently, the reason for an occasional blush whenever the subject of his future comes up. I only reached here the night before, but we are close friends now. There is something in the wind, with flakes, that urge people to speak in never-ending monologues. Discuss emotions, exchange secrets, talk about themselves – things they do not talk about ‘normally,’ not the least when they are engrossed in the workings of the ‘civilised world.’ I asked him about the quotation on the wall and he said let’s call it a day.
My room, call it my studio apartment, is a typical bunker, built on self-help basis, thanks to our meagre resources. Carved out from a hillock, it is a classical one-window room of 14×10 feet. The 10-foot high ceiling had 70 girders. Trivial information, you say? I count them every night before I can sleep. No, I have not grown insomniac, but I dare not venture out to count stars in this part of the world.
On one side, the empty cartons have been arranged, covered by gunny bags, only to be topped by the prayer mat. I have a lot of time to pray and reflect, probably since I am the closest I could get to Him. The other wall supports the bed (an arrangement of empty cartons) upon which lies an air mattress, along with our sleeping bags. Tastefully, the big-flower-print bed sheet does not permit the attention to drift to the poor structure of the bed. The dark toilet is an extension of the same room. An old cough syrup bottle has been modified with kerosene oil to serve the purpose of the lamp which practically lights up nothing. The empty ghee cans are our makeshift geysers. Basic instinct is the best aide when it comes to anatomy in the dark bathroom. The room décor is an artistic arrangement of the empty containers of food, fuel and fire. Food cartons serve as tables, fuel cans as stools and empty (fired) cartridges as bedside teapoy items. The most decorated table has boxes of chicken cubes, noodles, egg biscuits, brick-game and yes, our window to the world, the radio. Other inhabitants include a Fujika (a kerosene-lit heater), petromax, the books that you have sent and the military phone – this masterpiece of technology which connects me to you, remains silent. The weather, the snow, the wind, the electric power everything conspires against our probable communication. Reminds me how Shah Latif narrates the plight of Sassi after she had been robbed of Pannu:
Another day has gone. The vigilant sentries change over their duties. Far from home, away from gatherings, phone calls, SMS-es, these men, I think, are doing something which can never be monetised. Purposelessly, looking against the ravishing snowstorms, their biggest foe is the weather. You can never predict its move. It sulks within and you only realise how loosely you hang between a life and death when it hits you. A minor headache turns into cerebral edema and a man full of stories, intentions, commitments and emotions becomes, what they call, a ‘causality.’
The radio is tuned up and we start receiving our dose of military bashing. A whole lot of qualified individuals start describing us as a merry-making mob, with no clue about how one can party at 20,000 ft above the mean sea level. My mind races. Huge chunks of budget for tomato puree and canned vegetables. Power hungry for morally supporting everyone that we have, people who love us and people who are the reason we live to guard this piece of land. Luxurious lives in a make-shift room with empty cartons. I think the quotation on the wall is not so over-rated.
Hope to hear from you soon…
Yours faithfully,
H
A letter from Siachen
DAWN.COM | 7th April, 2012
Dear A,
“We, the willing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything, with nothing.”
This quotation was written diagonally on the first page of his diary as he showed me his poems. My host is a young man, whose spirits are still volatile despite the sub-zero temperature of this place. It is our first meeting. He does not know that the quotation is by mother Teresa, he does not know mother Teresa at all. He thinks it was said for him, dismissing any reason for researching its origins. The young man got engaged recently, the reason for an occasional blush whenever the subject of his future comes up. I only reached here the night before, but we are close friends now. There is something in the wind, with flakes, that urge people to speak in never-ending monologues. Discuss emotions, exchange secrets, talk about themselves – things they do not talk about ‘normally,’ not the least when they are engrossed in the workings of the ‘civilised world.’ I asked him about the quotation on the wall and he said let’s call it a day.
My room, call it my studio apartment, is a typical bunker, built on self-help basis, thanks to our meagre resources. Carved out from a hillock, it is a classical one-window room of 14×10 feet. The 10-foot high ceiling had 70 girders. Trivial information, you say? I count them every night before I can sleep. No, I have not grown insomniac, but I dare not venture out to count stars in this part of the world.
On one side, the empty cartons have been arranged, covered by gunny bags, only to be topped by the prayer mat. I have a lot of time to pray and reflect, probably since I am the closest I could get to Him. The other wall supports the bed (an arrangement of empty cartons) upon which lies an air mattress, along with our sleeping bags. Tastefully, the big-flower-print bed sheet does not permit the attention to drift to the poor structure of the bed. The dark toilet is an extension of the same room. An old cough syrup bottle has been modified with kerosene oil to serve the purpose of the lamp which practically lights up nothing. The empty ghee cans are our makeshift geysers. Basic instinct is the best aide when it comes to anatomy in the dark bathroom. The room décor is an artistic arrangement of the empty containers of food, fuel and fire. Food cartons serve as tables, fuel cans as stools and empty (fired) cartridges as bedside teapoy items. The most decorated table has boxes of chicken cubes, noodles, egg biscuits, brick-game and yes, our window to the world, the radio. Other inhabitants include a Fujika (a kerosene-lit heater), petromax, the books that you have sent and the military phone – this masterpiece of technology which connects me to you, remains silent. The weather, the snow, the wind, the electric power everything conspires against our probable communication. Reminds me how Shah Latif narrates the plight of Sassi after she had been robbed of Pannu:
“The camel (which carries Pannu) is my enemy, the wind (which is erasing the foot prints of caravan) is my enemy, the sand is my enemy and so are the brothers of Pannu,
And most of all the sun is my enemy, for having risen so late and not waking me up”
Another day has gone. The vigilant sentries change over their duties. Far from home, away from gatherings, phone calls, SMS-es, these men, I think, are doing something which can never be monetised. Purposelessly, looking against the ravishing snowstorms, their biggest foe is the weather. You can never predict its move. It sulks within and you only realise how loosely you hang between a life and death when it hits you. A minor headache turns into cerebral edema and a man full of stories, intentions, commitments and emotions becomes, what they call, a ‘causality.’
The radio is tuned up and we start receiving our dose of military bashing. A whole lot of qualified individuals start describing us as a merry-making mob, with no clue about how one can party at 20,000 ft above the mean sea level. My mind races. Huge chunks of budget for tomato puree and canned vegetables. Power hungry for morally supporting everyone that we have, people who love us and people who are the reason we live to guard this piece of land. Luxurious lives in a make-shift room with empty cartons. I think the quotation on the wall is not so over-rated.
Hope to hear from you soon…
Yours faithfully,
H
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^^
i doubt if this letter is authentic ,, having known faujis all my life , they dont talk like this,, seems like a propaganda stunt by the kanjars at DAWN to project an image of absolute misery and a fight for some 'lost cause' which is siachin,, more so DAWN ,( a liberal kanjar ) will never tell u why we are there in first place ....
wtf !!
i doubt if this letter is authentic ,, having known faujis all my life , they dont talk like this,, seems like a propaganda stunt by the kanjars at DAWN to project an image of absolute misery and a fight for some 'lost cause' which is siachin,, more so DAWN ,( a liberal kanjar ) will never tell u why we are there in first place ....
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""""The radio is tuned up and we start receiving our dose of military bashing """
wtf !!
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:11 PM
blueazure, on 11 April 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:
^^
i doubt if this letter is authentic ,, having known faujis all my life , they dont talk like this,, seems like a propaganda stunt by the kanjars at DAWN to project an image of absolute misery and a fight for some 'lost cause' which is siachin,, more so DAWN ,( a liberal kanjar ) will never tell u why we are there in first place ....
wtf !!
i doubt if this letter is authentic ,, having known faujis all my life , they dont talk like this,, seems like a propaganda stunt by the kanjars at DAWN to project an image of absolute misery and a fight for some 'lost cause' which is siachin,, more so DAWN ,( a liberal kanjar ) will never tell u why we are there in first place ....
wtf !!
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:58 AM
So when a soldier complaints of ungrateful SOBs countrymen than it is a fake letter? Give me a break please. You only have to look at this forum to understand what a bunch of ungrateful lunatics we have.
Humanity's past on this planet is based on the biggest Lie in History--and the same Lie will destroy humans in future! The Truth is infront of us and yet we refuse to accept it, we refuse to see it, we refuse to listen to it. Humans are intelligent and yet the dumbest beings ever!
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:50 AM
Caesar, on 12 April 2012 - 02:58 AM, said:
So when a soldier complaints of ungrateful SOBs countrymen than it is a fake letter? Give me a break please. You only have to look at this forum to understand what a bunch of ungrateful lunatics we have.
Yeah go ahead, take a break
. It seems fake because those of us who have members in the military know that they do not behave like this. Most soldiers have a very strong and different mentality and would definitely not complain in this way. Although its true that we are very ungrateful and especially towards God.
"Everyone, except those who are ignorant, knows that the Quran is the general code of the Muslims. A religious, social, civil, commercial, military, judicial, criminal, penal code, it regulates everything from the ceremonies of religion to those of daily life; from the salvation of the soul to the health of the body; from the rights of all to those of each individual; from morality to crime, from punishment here to that in the life to come, and our Prophet has enjoined on us that every Musalman should possess a copy of the Quran and be his own priest. Therefore Islam is not merely confined to the spiritual tenets and doctrines or rituals and ceremonies. It is a complete code regulating the whole Muslim society, every department of life, collective[ly] and individually."
- Jinnah , Eid message in September 1945.
He called upon the mammoth Lahore audience to build up "Pakistan as a bulwark of Islam", to "live up to your traditions and add to it another chapter of glory", adding, "If we take our inspiration and guidance from the Holy Quran, the final victory, I once again say, will be ours"
-Jinnah , (30 October 1947).
- Jinnah , Eid message in September 1945.
He called upon the mammoth Lahore audience to build up "Pakistan as a bulwark of Islam", to "live up to your traditions and add to it another chapter of glory", adding, "If we take our inspiration and guidance from the Holy Quran, the final victory, I once again say, will be ours"
-Jinnah , (30 October 1947).
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 05:26 AM
ajaj, on 12 April 2012 - 04:50 AM, said:
Yeah go ahead, take a break . It seems fake because those of us who have members in the military know that they do not behave like this. Most soldiers have a very strong and different mentality and would definitely not complain in this way. Although its true that we are very ungrateful and especially towards God.
. It seems fake because those of us who have members in the military know that they do not behave like this. Most soldiers have a very strong and different mentality and would definitely not complain in this way. Although its true that we are very ungrateful and especially towards God.Why can't a soldier not complaint of his countrymen being SOBs? You logic is illogical because you fail to comprehend that these soldiers are also human beings who have feelings as well. They are much stronger and believe in chain of command, but when they hear their own idiot countrymen continously spilling garbage then they do form an opinion. By the way welcome to the 21 st century where unlike the stone age there are multiple means of expressing your opinions through multiple devices. In coming days and months You will hear much more of this ..... more soldiers will express their opinions ..... so get use it.
Humanity's past on this planet is based on the biggest Lie in History--and the same Lie will destroy humans in future! The Truth is infront of us and yet we refuse to accept it, we refuse to see it, we refuse to listen to it. Humans are intelligent and yet the dumbest beings ever!
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the aid from american troops should not have been asked for at all!
it's the same nato-allies who first shoot 24 Pakistani soldiers at Salala post, and now want to balance the difference by helping 100+ Pakistani soldiers.
the coas-officials have no selfrespect at all, bloody sell-outs and disgrace for Pak Armed Forces!!
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it's the same nato-allies who first shoot 24 Pakistani soldiers at Salala post, and now want to balance the difference by helping 100+ Pakistani soldiers.
the coas-officials have no selfrespect at all, bloody sell-outs and disgrace for Pak Armed Forces!!
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:30 AM
Jazba-e-Kashmir, on 12 April 2012 - 06:53 AM, said:
the aid from american troops should not have been asked for at all!
it's the same nato-allies who first shoot 24 Pakistani soldiers at Salala post, and now want to balance the difference by helping 100+ Pakistani soldiers.
the coas-officials have no selfrespect at all, bloody sell-outs and disgrace for Pak Armed Forces!!
Peace
it's the same nato-allies who first shoot 24 Pakistani soldiers at Salala post, and now want to balance the difference by helping 100+ Pakistani soldiers.
the coas-officials have no selfrespect at all, bloody sell-outs and disgrace for Pak Armed Forces!!
Peace
Sorry I'd rather get all the help we can get from any source to save or soldiers no egos no ifs or buts.
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ajaj, on 12 April 2012 - 04:50 AM, said:
Yeah go ahead, take a break . It seems fake because those of us who have members in the military know that they do not behave like this. Most soldiers have a very strong and different mentality and would definitely not complain in this way. Although its true that we are very ungrateful and especially towards God.
. It seems fake because those of us who have members in the military know that they do not behave like this. Most soldiers have a very strong and different mentality and would definitely not complain in this way. Although its true that we are very ungrateful and especially towards God.Precisely!
"Who listens to the (soul) distressed when it calls on Him, and Who relieves its sufferings..."
Al-Quran 27:62.
"The test of courage comes when we are in minority, the test of tolerance comes when we are in majority”.
Al-Quran 27:62.
"The test of courage comes when we are in minority, the test of tolerance comes when we are in majority”.
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if im not mistaken, ghyari is just in vicinity of goma base camp from where effectively the siachin war is fought
had it been goma ?
had it been goma ?
Yes, it is a few kilometers away from goma. Around an hour or so of walking distance.
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thanks for the pictures brother!
No problem. I actually took it from ISPR's press release.
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Pics being floated on FB:......
Shehz bhai these pictures are from Kalpani Base (8000 feet) dir district.
Here is a link to an article with many more pictures from the same place.
http://blogs.sacbee....their war&aff=5
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I know its tough to get machinery up there but there is little hope with what they are currently using. They need more heavy machinery for the job. That being said being buried in the freezing snow for 3 days, there is little hope now anyway. We can just pray for a miracle. May Allah save some souls.
The Brigade deployed in Siachen area has a company from engineer corps. This equipment was from that company already deployed in nearby area. Slowly equipment is coming from other areas too.
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It's very unlikely we will find any survivors, this long in the snow, even if they can keep warm, i wonder what the chances of getting oxygen are.
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News floating around on FB that two locations have been identified with signs of life. Lets pray for a miracle inshAllah.
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Let us go back to our holy book, the Quran. Let us revert to the Hadeeth and the the great traditions of Islam which have everything in them for our guidance if we correctly interpret them and follow our great Holy book, the Quran.
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Inshallah Az Wa'Jallaa
Ya Allah! Take away the pain and burden from Pakistan, it's people and it's Jawaans in Pak Armed Forces of any kind. Ameen.
O Blesser with Endless Treasures, Bless One Blessing If You Have Any Excessive Treasure for all of us; sinners, rich, poor or troubled people.
Ya Allah! Show Your Mercy and Help us if You want to even if we don't deserve anything from You because we are unthankful!
Ya Allah Help the soldiers buried under the avalanche. Ameen
This is a dua for when your in stress or when you see someone going through a hard time
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Ya Allah! Take away the pain and burden from Pakistan, it's people and it's Jawaans in Pak Armed Forces of any kind. Ameen.
O Blesser with Endless Treasures, Bless One Blessing If You Have Any Excessive Treasure for all of us; sinners, rich, poor or troubled people.
Ya Allah! Show Your Mercy and Help us if You want to even if we don't deserve anything from You because we are unthankful!
Ya Allah Help the soldiers buried under the avalanche. Ameen
This is a dua for when your in stress or when you see someone going through a hard time
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:59 AM
Skull-Buster, on 14 April 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:
News floating around on FB that two locations have been identified with signs of life. Lets pray for a miracle inshAllah.
Skull-Buster, on 14 April 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:
News floating around on FB that two locations have been identified with signs of life. Lets pray for a miracle inshAllah.
Though Unlikely given the amount of time and has passed thus there will be issue of oxygen. Though there will be water, melted snow so if large enough area gap has been created by the building I guess they can possible survive.
Dunya news in its yesterday's broad cast of Hasb e hal did mention that they are nearing the sight where the buildings were.
Though at this stage it is going to be a miracle if any survive.
Pakistan came into being on August 14, 1947. As the Creator willed it, the date corresponded with the empowering night of Ramadan 27 of the year 1366 after the Prophet’s Hijra. Its great destiny was thus set from the start
If we take our inspiration and guidance from the Holy Qur’an, the final victory, I once again say, will be ours… Do not be overwhelmed by the enormity of the task… You only have to develop the spirit of the Mujahids. You are a nation whose history is replete with people of wonderful character and heroism. Live up to your traditions and add to another chapter of glory. All I require of you now is that everyone… must vow to himself and be prepared to sacrifice his all… in building up Pakistan as a bulwark of Islam and as one of the greatest nations whose ideal is peace within and peace without… Islam enjoins on every Mussulman to give protection to his neighbors and to minorities regardless of caste and creed. Muhammad Ali Jinnah
If we take our inspiration and guidance from the Holy Qur’an, the final victory, I once again say, will be ours… Do not be overwhelmed by the enormity of the task… You only have to develop the spirit of the Mujahids. You are a nation whose history is replete with people of wonderful character and heroism. Live up to your traditions and add to another chapter of glory. All I require of you now is that everyone… must vow to himself and be prepared to sacrifice his all… in building up Pakistan as a bulwark of Islam and as one of the greatest nations whose ideal is peace within and peace without… Islam enjoins on every Mussulman to give protection to his neighbors and to minorities regardless of caste and creed. Muhammad Ali Jinnah
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:23 AM
BREAKING NEWS:
Live broadcast from ISPR - can be watched at Pakistani news channels.
Regarding: the present situation and what has been done or being done at the moment in Gayari Sector.
A 3d movie of the area is being shown of the area by ISPR
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Live broadcast from ISPR - can be watched at Pakistani news channels.
Regarding: the present situation and what has been done or being done at the moment in Gayari Sector.
A 3d movie of the area is being shown of the area by ISPR
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:39 AM
I took notes of what the spokesperson stated:
The rescure operation carried by:
400 men related to Pak Armed Forces
60 local civilians from
24/7 rescue effort
They were deployed from the first day, ONLY those who have expertise in such rescue operations.
70-80 feet depth is to get to trapped soldiers, but it was difficult from Pakistani side to reach to the soldiers. Therefore international teams have been asked to join.
They have brought radar and voice technologies with them, which is vital for the rescue operation.
- The Chinese team has arrived today.
- The Norwegian team is on the way.
- The amercain team was already there - (no big surprise though)
Loaders, dumpsters, operators of different machineries, are present.
20-21 overall plants would be installed to rescue. 50 men are going to work on them.
PAF role in the operation; 3 C-130s are dedicated to transport all equipment to the site; but due to bad weather, the deployment of equipment is delayed for the transportation.
Temperature; average minus 15 - difficult to work, but the Pakistani rescue workers are dedicated to work and rescue the trapped Pakistani armymen!
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The rescure operation carried by:
400 men related to Pak Armed Forces
60 local civilians from
24/7 rescue effort
They were deployed from the first day, ONLY those who have expertise in such rescue operations.
70-80 feet depth is to get to trapped soldiers, but it was difficult from Pakistani side to reach to the soldiers. Therefore international teams have been asked to join.
They have brought radar and voice technologies with them, which is vital for the rescue operation.
- The Chinese team has arrived today.
- The Norwegian team is on the way.
- The amercain team was already there - (no big surprise though)
Loaders, dumpsters, operators of different machineries, are present.
20-21 overall plants would be installed to rescue. 50 men are going to work on them.
PAF role in the operation; 3 C-130s are dedicated to transport all equipment to the site; but due to bad weather, the deployment of equipment is delayed for the transportation.
Temperature; average minus 15 - difficult to work, but the Pakistani rescue workers are dedicated to work and rescue the trapped Pakistani armymen!
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:46 AM
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:07 AM
According to ISPR release the snow is 70 feet high = 21 meters and to work out the scale of this, the size of HQ was 300 m x 300m which is completed buried.
simple mathematics translates that to ( 300*300*21) = 1,890,000 cubic meters of snow... estimated weights of 1 cubic meter of newly fallen snow is approximately 70-150 kg (taking middle 100kg).
= 189,000,000 kg or int tonnes 189,000 tonnes of snow.
Though in a snow slide the snow gets compressed and air is squeezed out hence the actual weight of it could be close 950kg per cubic meter which makes it even worst.
Also American teams have not yet reached the scene while other countries have, I guess government is just delaying their presence.
simple mathematics translates that to ( 300*300*21) = 1,890,000 cubic meters of snow... estimated weights of 1 cubic meter of newly fallen snow is approximately 70-150 kg (taking middle 100kg).
= 189,000,000 kg or int tonnes 189,000 tonnes of snow.
Though in a snow slide the snow gets compressed and air is squeezed out hence the actual weight of it could be close 950kg per cubic meter which makes it even worst.
Also American teams have not yet reached the scene while other countries have, I guess government is just delaying their presence.
Pakistan came into being on August 14, 1947. As the Creator willed it, the date corresponded with the empowering night of Ramadan 27 of the year 1366 after the Prophet’s Hijra. Its great destiny was thus set from the start
If we take our inspiration and guidance from the Holy Qur’an, the final victory, I once again say, will be ours… Do not be overwhelmed by the enormity of the task… You only have to develop the spirit of the Mujahids. You are a nation whose history is replete with people of wonderful character and heroism. Live up to your traditions and add to another chapter of glory. All I require of you now is that everyone… must vow to himself and be prepared to sacrifice his all… in building up Pakistan as a bulwark of Islam and as one of the greatest nations whose ideal is peace within and peace without… Islam enjoins on every Mussulman to give protection to his neighbors and to minorities regardless of caste and creed. Muhammad Ali Jinnah
If we take our inspiration and guidance from the Holy Qur’an, the final victory, I once again say, will be ours… Do not be overwhelmed by the enormity of the task… You only have to develop the spirit of the Mujahids. You are a nation whose history is replete with people of wonderful character and heroism. Live up to your traditions and add to another chapter of glory. All I require of you now is that everyone… must vow to himself and be prepared to sacrifice his all… in building up Pakistan as a bulwark of Islam and as one of the greatest nations whose ideal is peace within and peace without… Islam enjoins on every Mussulman to give protection to his neighbors and to minorities regardless of caste and creed. Muhammad Ali Jinnah
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Taken from Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid's official facebook page:
Another officer under the snow is Dr. Captain Haleem Tareen. Capt. Tareen’s sister Aisha wrote these lines after the tragedy. This will tear your heart apart
"Never keep something in your heart. Just say it and then whatever respon...se you get, at least you won’t regret it for the rest of your life that you had a chance and you didn’t take it. These were the last words of Haleem Tareen in his last call a night before the incident. He talked for 19 minutes, and then the operator of the exchange interrupted our conversation and said, ‘commander wants to call [Capt. Haleem]’. And he said, ‘Ok Aisha I will call you later. You don’t worry and I don’t want to see you cry. Always remember that your brother is with you so you don’t need to worry.’
He was right. A martyr is always alive But why he said this to me? Cuz he was going to make me cry for the rest of my life He had given me a task and would call me every second day to ask if I did his work or not. And today I had good news for him. Today he was supposed to call me. I am waiting for your call my brother. You can’t go like this. You will have to come back Please come back plzzzzz. I need to tell you what you have waited so much to hear. Otherwise I will have to live the rest of my life with that thing you wanted to hear. I’m such a failure”!!!
According to our reports, SAFMA snakes have decided to launch a media campaign and propaganda war in the media to exploit the moment of tragedy at Siachen to demand a withdrawl of Pakistani forces from Siachen and Kargil regions. On the dir...ections of their masters, SAFMA would now launch another informaiton war.
We warn SAFMA and their loyalist snakes that everyone part of this sinister campaign would be added to the list of traitors in our petition in the Supreme Court. We are dead serious and will show no mercy here.
US have also joined in to bring "peace" at Siachen while Zardari also went to India to secretly discuss the issue without the mandate of army, parliment or the nation. We know the sinister games being played and now will not let the SAFMA stab the nation in the back. Already multiple articles have emerged in a organzied campaign which is the information and propaganda war.
These so called analysts were asleep for the last 28 years when India atatcked and intruded into Pak terretory and we had to fight bloody battles to reclaim our land. Now when we are frustrating the Hindu zionists, their slaves in media jump up, appearign to be so concerned at the sacrifices of our soldiers.
Allah's curse is upon you SAFMA. We will only enforce that curse upon you, InshAllah. You have been warned. Write as much as you want. We are also writing names.
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Taken from Bollywood Boycott by Pakistanis -facebook page:
They weren’t just 135 men.
They were 135 families.
135 promises.
135 brothers fighting harsh climates that would freeze lava to ice.
Leaving birthdays and funerals, bearing hurt & being misunderstood. Together for one cause, regardless of language and ethnicity. Now, buried under cold white snow.
Snow, not as white as the blood, nor as cold as the hearts of the people in Pakistani media who gave little or no coverage to this incident.
May Allah Have Mercy on them, and upon us. R.I.P. Brave Soldiers of Pakistan Army!
Pak Army facing difficulties in Gyari rescue operations
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Another officer under the snow is Dr. Captain Haleem Tareen. Capt. Tareen’s sister Aisha wrote these lines after the tragedy. This will tear your heart apart
"Never keep something in your heart. Just say it and then whatever respon...se you get, at least you won’t regret it for the rest of your life that you had a chance and you didn’t take it. These were the last words of Haleem Tareen in his last call a night before the incident. He talked for 19 minutes, and then the operator of the exchange interrupted our conversation and said, ‘commander wants to call [Capt. Haleem]’. And he said, ‘Ok Aisha I will call you later. You don’t worry and I don’t want to see you cry. Always remember that your brother is with you so you don’t need to worry.’
He was right. A martyr is always alive But why he said this to me? Cuz he was going to make me cry for the rest of my life He had given me a task and would call me every second day to ask if I did his work or not. And today I had good news for him. Today he was supposed to call me. I am waiting for your call my brother. You can’t go like this. You will have to come back Please come back plzzzzz. I need to tell you what you have waited so much to hear. Otherwise I will have to live the rest of my life with that thing you wanted to hear. I’m such a failure”!!!
According to our reports, SAFMA snakes have decided to launch a media campaign and propaganda war in the media to exploit the moment of tragedy at Siachen to demand a withdrawl of Pakistani forces from Siachen and Kargil regions. On the dir...ections of their masters, SAFMA would now launch another informaiton war.
We warn SAFMA and their loyalist snakes that everyone part of this sinister campaign would be added to the list of traitors in our petition in the Supreme Court. We are dead serious and will show no mercy here.
US have also joined in to bring "peace" at Siachen while Zardari also went to India to secretly discuss the issue without the mandate of army, parliment or the nation. We know the sinister games being played and now will not let the SAFMA stab the nation in the back. Already multiple articles have emerged in a organzied campaign which is the information and propaganda war.
These so called analysts were asleep for the last 28 years when India atatcked and intruded into Pak terretory and we had to fight bloody battles to reclaim our land. Now when we are frustrating the Hindu zionists, their slaves in media jump up, appearign to be so concerned at the sacrifices of our soldiers.
Allah's curse is upon you SAFMA. We will only enforce that curse upon you, InshAllah. You have been warned. Write as much as you want. We are also writing names.
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Taken from Bollywood Boycott by Pakistanis -facebook page:
They weren’t just 135 men.
They were 135 families.
135 promises.
135 brothers fighting harsh climates that would freeze lava to ice.
Leaving birthdays and funerals, bearing hurt & being misunderstood. Together for one cause, regardless of language and ethnicity. Now, buried under cold white snow.
Snow, not as white as the blood, nor as cold as the hearts of the people in Pakistani media who gave little or no coverage to this incident.
May Allah Have Mercy on them, and upon us. R.I.P. Brave Soldiers of Pakistan Army!
Pak Army facing difficulties in Gyari rescue operations
Peace
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Yeh Ghazi - A tribute to Siachen Warriors of Pak Army (HD)
May Allah Allah Grant the Shaheed with Great and High Ranks, and May He Help the trapped soldiers in the avalanche.
Ameen
Pakistan Zindabad
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Long Live the Jawaans in Armed Forces
May Allah's Protection be upon them, on Pakistan and it's people.
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May Allah Allah Grant the Shaheed with Great and High Ranks, and May He Help the trapped soldiers in the avalanche.
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May Allah's Protection be upon them, on Pakistan and it's people.
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PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif visited the Gayari sector where the rescue operation is underway.
A large number of PML-N workers recieived Nawaz Sharif at Skardu airport.
Nawaz sharif was accompanied by other PML-N leaders including Marvi Memon, Pervez Rashid and Mahtab Abbasi.
After a short stay at Skardu airport, Nawaz Sharif left for Giyari via helicopter.
The PML-N president received a briefing on the rescue operation from Corp Commander Lt. General Khalid Nawaz and Forces Commander Major General Akram ul Haq.
Nawaz Sharif also visited the residences of soldiers in Skardu and expressed grief over the incident.
Later, he distributed cheques worth Rs 500,000 to the families of the affected soldiers in Skardu.
http://dunyanews.tv/...MiNOaWQ9NzU5Mzg=
according to ary news, nawaz sharif wants to call the troops back from Siachen.
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A large number of PML-N workers recieived Nawaz Sharif at Skardu airport.
Nawaz sharif was accompanied by other PML-N leaders including Marvi Memon, Pervez Rashid and Mahtab Abbasi.
After a short stay at Skardu airport, Nawaz Sharif left for Giyari via helicopter.
The PML-N president received a briefing on the rescue operation from Corp Commander Lt. General Khalid Nawaz and Forces Commander Major General Akram ul Haq.
Nawaz Sharif also visited the residences of soldiers in Skardu and expressed grief over the incident.
Later, he distributed cheques worth Rs 500,000 to the families of the affected soldiers in Skardu.
http://dunyanews.tv/...MiNOaWQ9NzU5Mzg=
according to ary news, nawaz sharif wants to call the troops back from Siachen.
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Jazba-e-Kashmir, on 17 April 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:
PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif visited the Gayari sector where the rescue operation is underway.
But why? What will we or they or him achieve by doing that?
All he will contribute is delay and hampering the rescue efforts.
Hakim Bey: Don't just survive while waiting for someone's revolution to clear your head
Napoleon Bonaparte: The world suffers a lot, not because of the violence of bad people, but because of the silence of good people!
Napoleon Bonaparte: The world suffers a lot, not because of the violence of bad people, but because of the silence of good people!
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Shehz, on 18 April 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:
But why? What will we or they or him achieve by doing that?
All he will contribute is delay and hampering the rescue efforts.
All he will contribute is delay and hampering the rescue efforts.
have no idea, but we all know since every time something big happens in Pakistan, a political leader will come forward and inflict in the matter to show his power and "greatness".
Or as it is called in Urdu, Baadshah-e-Salaamat!
now zardari has come forward with a statement, nearly 12-13 days after the incident, then it is going to become ppp versus pml-n political arena of who came the first person who went to the area, and who can become the most caring party for the trapped soldiers in the avalanche.
provincial governments shouldn't give money to the country's own national soldiers in such situations at all, since the military has it's own funds and should use money on soldiers from their own funds rather than a provincial government gives 500.000 rupees to every soldier when every province has it's own provincial expenditures to take care of.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 03:04 PM
Pakistan Tonight(Gyari Siachen Journey Special) 18th April 2012
http://www.zemtv.com...8th-april-2012/
Faisla Aapka (Progress in Siacheen) – 18th April 2012
http://www.zemtv.com...8th-april-2012/
http://www.zemtv.com...8th-april-2012/
Faisla Aapka (Progress in Siacheen) – 18th April 2012
http://www.zemtv.com...8th-april-2012/
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A very interesting article. There seems to be some other dynamics at play in this tragedy (in red). Btw has amerian arrived yet?
http://dawn.com/2012...nother-siachen/
A number of articles have lately appeared in quick succession on the Siachen tragedy. As one of the Himalayan and Korakoram glaciers, Siachen, is the highest battlefield on the face of the Earth. While the rescue mission is still to start much-awaited information about the survivors at the time of writing, the families are undergoing a traumatic phase and whole nation is praying for them.
These articles prompt further writing on a few important aspects for underlining the need of better study, more discussions and possible improvement in existing SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) especially in the on-going methodologies adopted for supervision and monitoring, reconnaissance and base camp selection in snow-laden remote valleys with icy caps all around.
There exists a system of large glaciers such as Siachen, Saltoro, Baltoro, Biafo, Hispar etc. These are surrounded by very high and steeply peaks making the whole area treacherously inhospitable and difficult even for camping. In the absence of well-prepared and properly-implemented instructions, natural disasters are more likely to occur. Although the unique Pakistani northern territory is quite familiar to our jawans, yet the present day strategic requirements are far more stringent in view of ever-evolving latest technology. The Indians are well-dug on their superiority in the satellite field.
Besides facing the usual problems of sub-zero temperatures, e.g., less oxygen, frost bites, snow blindness, difficulties in surveillance, Pakistanis inevitably need better communications equipment, data collection gadgetry and appropriate health care awareness etc. These are sine qua non to optimise the expenditure incurred on stationing army personnel and posting helping hands. Owing to the unique geographical terrain, only India and Pakistan are supposed to know the hardships and intricacies encountered. Because it is a battle-field, Pakistanis must be leaders in know-how on every aspect; it is sad that this tragedy amply exposes our shortcomings.
The oddity arises from the fact that Hindu Kush, Korakoram and Himalayan ranges have been produced by the northward impact of the subcontinent peninsula hitting Eurasian mainland during the period of continental drifts. Steepiness of peaks and range contours are said to be still undergoing compressive pressures and some of the peaks are conspicuously increasing in height as measured over longer periods of time. This important phenomenon has to be properly understood in relation to glaciers, icy sludges and avalanches. Even the slightest increase in heights would cause the infinitesimally small changing gradients to trigger drifting of loose snow and providing thrust to nearby glacier(s). Coupled with other equilibrium-disturbance causes like global warming and considerable human activity, the whole scenario becomes recipe for disasters, more than any where in the world.
This is an era of undeclared warfare through unconventional weaponry including laser beams that is ever-improving with the help of computer-aided technologies. To be on the safer side, it will not be unwise to presume the under-cover use of such special techniques. Working of HAARP is documented; triggering of earth quakes through resonance-creating equipment is well-known. Above all, it must be remembered that the area is critically sensitive for the two countries.
It has been claimed that HAARP is capable of causing big changes; it can even give a significant tilt to the Earth’s axis. While its use directly through ionosphere is not feasible for this specific area, its special localised version generating controlled beams at specific locations from nearby vantage points cannot be ruled out. How to see to that is an exercise which requires serious thinking. Furthermore, eroding mechanically through secret missions the control points of glaciers (mainly close to edges) to result in well-defined covert outcomes has to be guarded against. Even if these plans appear too risky or somewhat prohibitive due to budgetary constraints (for both sides), yet, we cannot remain oblivious to such eventualities and need to have sufficient funds diverted for on-site studies and preparation of contingency plans on modern lines.
It is assertively stated that a knowledge about glaciers marked as dangerous would not help until and unless expertise in living in these areas is achieved. Let us not forget that nations cherish memories of hearing only good news from battle-fields.
http://dawn.com/2012...nother-siachen/
A number of articles have lately appeared in quick succession on the Siachen tragedy. As one of the Himalayan and Korakoram glaciers, Siachen, is the highest battlefield on the face of the Earth. While the rescue mission is still to start much-awaited information about the survivors at the time of writing, the families are undergoing a traumatic phase and whole nation is praying for them.
These articles prompt further writing on a few important aspects for underlining the need of better study, more discussions and possible improvement in existing SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) especially in the on-going methodologies adopted for supervision and monitoring, reconnaissance and base camp selection in snow-laden remote valleys with icy caps all around.
There exists a system of large glaciers such as Siachen, Saltoro, Baltoro, Biafo, Hispar etc. These are surrounded by very high and steeply peaks making the whole area treacherously inhospitable and difficult even for camping. In the absence of well-prepared and properly-implemented instructions, natural disasters are more likely to occur. Although the unique Pakistani northern territory is quite familiar to our jawans, yet the present day strategic requirements are far more stringent in view of ever-evolving latest technology. The Indians are well-dug on their superiority in the satellite field.
Besides facing the usual problems of sub-zero temperatures, e.g., less oxygen, frost bites, snow blindness, difficulties in surveillance, Pakistanis inevitably need better communications equipment, data collection gadgetry and appropriate health care awareness etc. These are sine qua non to optimise the expenditure incurred on stationing army personnel and posting helping hands. Owing to the unique geographical terrain, only India and Pakistan are supposed to know the hardships and intricacies encountered. Because it is a battle-field, Pakistanis must be leaders in know-how on every aspect; it is sad that this tragedy amply exposes our shortcomings.
The oddity arises from the fact that Hindu Kush, Korakoram and Himalayan ranges have been produced by the northward impact of the subcontinent peninsula hitting Eurasian mainland during the period of continental drifts. Steepiness of peaks and range contours are said to be still undergoing compressive pressures and some of the peaks are conspicuously increasing in height as measured over longer periods of time. This important phenomenon has to be properly understood in relation to glaciers, icy sludges and avalanches. Even the slightest increase in heights would cause the infinitesimally small changing gradients to trigger drifting of loose snow and providing thrust to nearby glacier(s). Coupled with other equilibrium-disturbance causes like global warming and considerable human activity, the whole scenario becomes recipe for disasters, more than any where in the world.
This is an era of undeclared warfare through unconventional weaponry including laser beams that is ever-improving with the help of computer-aided technologies. To be on the safer side, it will not be unwise to presume the under-cover use of such special techniques. Working of HAARP is documented; triggering of earth quakes through resonance-creating equipment is well-known. Above all, it must be remembered that the area is critically sensitive for the two countries.
It has been claimed that HAARP is capable of causing big changes; it can even give a significant tilt to the Earth’s axis. While its use directly through ionosphere is not feasible for this specific area, its special localised version generating controlled beams at specific locations from nearby vantage points cannot be ruled out. How to see to that is an exercise which requires serious thinking. Furthermore, eroding mechanically through secret missions the control points of glaciers (mainly close to edges) to result in well-defined covert outcomes has to be guarded against. Even if these plans appear too risky or somewhat prohibitive due to budgetary constraints (for both sides), yet, we cannot remain oblivious to such eventualities and need to have sufficient funds diverted for on-site studies and preparation of contingency plans on modern lines.
It is assertively stated that a knowledge about glaciers marked as dangerous would not help until and unless expertise in living in these areas is achieved. Let us not forget that nations cherish memories of hearing only good news from battle-fields.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=opAg3XUJsjk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_0F2IJEfmE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBJDy6GdlFo&feature=related
Liya jayega tujh se kam, duniya ki imamat ka
In Pakistan's yay or nay, the fate of other nations will be sealed. Insha Allah.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_0F2IJEfmE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBJDy6GdlFo&feature=related
Liya jayega tujh se kam, duniya ki imamat ka
In Pakistan's yay or nay, the fate of other nations will be sealed. Insha Allah.
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Siachen - The Geopolitics And Strategy In The Frozen Battlefield
http://www.scribd.co...zen-battlefield
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A report by ARY news on gyari.
Watch from 25:00 onwards if short on time.
Watch from 25:00 onwards if short on time.
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Siachen: Rescue work continues on 16th day
Rescuers continue to search for people buried under avalanche on the 16th consecutive day.
The weather has once again turned very cold due to overcast conditions and chilling winds. The bad weather posing difficulties in rescue activities but could not affect the pace of work at site.
The excavation work is being expanded with the help of machinery. The rescuers have also changed their strategy and are now digging from the tip of the avalanche instead of from different locations.
The rescue teams are hopeful to reach the men buried under avalanche today.
According to ISPR, a probing search was also carried out at three spots. Some life jackets, pieces of Igloo and medicines have been found at the site. These items were found 600 Meters from the original location.The items recovered showed the magnitude of destruction and nature of the avalanche.
The entire process of striking down of avalanche took less than five seconds as intimated by WAPDA Team Hydrological experts.
135 men including 124 soldiers and 11 civilians were buried under the avalanche on April 07.
http://dunyanews.tv/...MiNOaWQ9NzY2ODA=
Rescuers continue to search for people buried under avalanche on the 16th consecutive day.
The weather has once again turned very cold due to overcast conditions and chilling winds. The bad weather posing difficulties in rescue activities but could not affect the pace of work at site.
The excavation work is being expanded with the help of machinery. The rescuers have also changed their strategy and are now digging from the tip of the avalanche instead of from different locations.
The rescue teams are hopeful to reach the men buried under avalanche today.
According to ISPR, a probing search was also carried out at three spots. Some life jackets, pieces of Igloo and medicines have been found at the site. These items were found 600 Meters from the original location.The items recovered showed the magnitude of destruction and nature of the avalanche.
The entire process of striking down of avalanche took less than five seconds as intimated by WAPDA Team Hydrological experts.
135 men including 124 soldiers and 11 civilians were buried under the avalanche on April 07.
http://dunyanews.tv/...MiNOaWQ9NzY2ODA=
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May Allah Bless the feet of every Shaheed in history, and May Bless our own mothers' feet as well. Ameen.
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News Night - Gen.Ashfaq Parvez Kayani-Siachen Exclusive - with Talat – 4th May 2012
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Gut wrenching incident.....my thoughts, prayers and condolences are with the comrades, friends and family of the victims.
The outlook for any survivors is very bleak now.
The outlook for any survivors is very bleak now.
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I think they wont even find bodies.
King-6, Whiskey-1, Send your Fire Mission, OVER.
King-6, Bravo is Mission Complete, Send Black window.
King-6, Bravo is Mission Complete, Send Black window.
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