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Sacrilegious film: Imran Khan condemns weak response of govt

Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan has condemned the weak response of the Zardari government that has not taken up the issue of the defamatory film with the US government. He said that this scurrilous film that defames the Holy Prophet (PBUH) has angered the entire Muslim Ummah and it is incumbent upon the American government to proceed against these people spreading hate. Chairman Tehreek-e-Insaf said that hate crimes are a punishable offence in the United States but, why is this law only applied to overt acts of violence? This particular defamatory film is itself a violent and hateful crime against the religion of Islam and the US government cannot hide behind the freedom of expression excuse. It gets away with these lame expressions because the governments in the Muslim world only express weak and tepid outrage that is not reflective of the sentiments of their people. Imran Khan said that the Zardari regime should immediately raise this issue with the American Government and ensure that this hate crime is not papered over by excuses that are not tenable even under American laws. Chairman PTI Imran Khan further said that it is time that Muslim Ummah takes joint action to ensure that acts designed to defame Islam and its message of peace are not allowed to go unpunished. This is only possible if the Organization of Islamic Countries takes a common and resolute stand that the Muslim Ummah would not tolerate defamation against Islam or the Holy Prophet (PBUH). It also needs to be stated from that common platform, said Chairman PTI, that all such acts are hate crimes and it is incumbents upon governments to take legal action wherever they take place. If this concerted action is missing, said Imran, the Western governments will continue to hide behind fake freedom of expression excused.

[BaburMissile]

Fully agree with IK. I haven't heard a word of condemnation from the current government. Not a surprise though. The sanctity of the holy prophet (PBUH) would be the least of concerns of Zardari and his cronies. These "liberals" only care about the sanctity of aid i.e. US $$$.

[Pak_Afaz]

Paying attention to this movie is like paying attention to that kid with pencils shoved in his nose. On the one side we have a government comprised of 1000s of function with a budget in the billions and on the other a lone guy with a movie  who probably is more worried to jack off in the weekend then anything else. So im sure the government has better thing to do then respond and there on give attention to that dork kid. And remember the more attention we give to this kid the more dorky he'll get. So Mr. Imran plz keep your bashing for other real matters then a stupid video that should have only been a discussion just for the rednecks and not the entire world.

[Felicius]

Innocense of Muslims - It's a 15 minute home/back-yard/school stage made movie, uploaded on youtube!
Entire muslim population going bonkers over a young adult and his part time hobby, seriously. Why doesn't IK get the account hacked and take it off himself?

Imagine, over 1 Bil people complaining about a youtube script, asking why doesn't the other person do anything about it. Okay, better idea, let's go kill the US ambassador.

Edited by Shehz, 14 September 2012 - 11:27 AM.

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UN chief slams "hateful film," calls for calm, restraint

Xinhua | 2012-9-14 11:11:22


UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Thursday condemned what he called the "hateful film" which is anti-Islam and touched off anti-American protest in the Middle East and North Africa, calling for calm and restraint at the time of rising tensions.

"The secretary-general is deeply disturbed by the recent violence in Libya and elsewhere in the Middle East," said a statement issued here late Thursday by Ban's spokesman. "Nothing justifies such killings and attacks."

The secretary-general "condemns the hateful film that appears to have been deliberately designed to sow bigotry and bloodshed," the statement said.

The statement came as angry demonstrations against the anti-Islam film reportedly made in the United States have spread to several countries across the Middle East and North Africa.

"At this time of rising tensions, the secretary-general calls for calm and restraint, and stresses the need for dialogue, mutual respect and understanding," the statement said.

Thursday morning witnessed the storming of the US Embassy in Yemen by several hundred protesters, reportedly still angry about the same YouTube video that sparked similar anti-American protests in Egypt and Libya earlier this week.

In Libya, where the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three embassy staff, were killed during protests in Benghazi, an eastern city, on Tuesday, officials said they had made "four arrests" over the attack.

Hundreds of protesters, angered by an alleged US-made movie that insults Prophet Mohammad, broke into the US consulate building in Benghazi Tuesday night and set ablaze the building.

The US ambassador was killed along with three US embassy staff as they rushed away from the consulate building that was stormed by al Qaida-linked gunmen blaming the United States for the movie which they said insulted the Prophet Mohammad.

In the Iranian capital, Tehran, up to 500 people protested over the issue chanting "Death to America!" and death to the movie's director, reports said.

The rally, near the Swiss embassy that handles US interests in the absence of US-Iran diplomatic ties, ended peacefully two hours later, said the reports.

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UN chief slams "hateful film," calls for calm, restraint


UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Thursday condemned what he called the "hateful film" which is anti-Islam and touched off anti-American protest in the Middle East and North Africa, calling for calm and restraint at the time of rising tensions.

"The secretary-general is deeply disturbed by the recent violence in Libya and elsewhere in the Middle East," said a statement issued here late Thursday by Ban's spokesman. "Nothing justifies such killings and attacks."

The secretary-general "condemns the hateful film that appears to have been deliberately designed to sow bigotry and bloodshed," the statement said.

The statement came as angry demonstrations against the anti-Islam film reportedly made in the United States have spread to several countries across the Middle East and North Africa.

"At this time of rising tensions, the secretary-general calls for calm and restraint, and stresses the need for dialogue, mutual respect and understanding," the statement said.

Thursday morning witnessed the storming of the US Embassy in Yemen by several hundred protesters, reportedly still angry about the same YouTube video that sparked similar anti-American protests in Egypt and Libya earlier this week.

In Libya, where the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three embassy staff, were killed during protests in Benghazi, an eastern city, on Tuesday, officials said they had made "four arrests" over the attack.

Hundreds of protesters, angered by an alleged US-made movie that insults Prophet Mohammad, broke into the US consulate building in Benghazi Tuesday night and set ablaze the building.

The US ambassador was killed along with three US embassy staff as they rushed away from the consulate building that was stormed by al Qaida-linked gunmen blaming the United States for the movie which they said insulted the Prophet Mohammad.

In the Iranian capital, Tehran, up to 500 people protested over the issue chanting "Death to America!" and death to the movie's director, reports said.

The rally, near the Swiss embassy that handles US interests in the absence of US-Iran diplomatic ties, ended peacefully two hours later, said the reports.

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Indian Army has screened it on large screen in Indian Occupied Kashmir by Majoir Hrithik

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'Muslims must control their anger': scholars oppose violent response to anti-Islam film


Renowned Islamic scholars reacted to a movie that insulted Holy Prophet Muhammad and the ensuing attacks on embassies by issuing a joint statement.

In a statement released on Friday, the An Nusra Al Alamiya organization led by Yusuf al-Qaradawi made a call for prudence. With its headquarters in Kuwait, An Nusra Al Alamiya pointed out that the movie targeting Holy Prophet Muhammad was provocative and all ensuing attacks on U.S. embassies should end.

"Reactions against the insult directed at Holy Prophet Muhammad were legal and were things desired. This is a necessity of our faith. Defending the Holy Prophet Muhammad is a desirable Islamic behaviour. However, a Muslim must act based on the Islamic law and directives issued by the Holy Prophet Muhammad. We should not be acting in opposition to our Prophet Muhammad while thinking that we are defending him," the statement underlined.

"The Muslims must control their anger. We need to focus on our aim. We need to stop the insult to our Prophet Muhammad immediately and punish those responsible for the insult. In connection with such an aim, we must stay away from acts that incite such insults, lead to the spread of such insults and protecting those making insults after they try to justify the insults based on freedom of expression," the statement noted.

"Insults on values have no aim other than causing unrest. Replying to such provocations with violence is doing what those troublemakers want," the statement underlined.

"The duty of the Muslims is not merely to respond to the insults directed against Prophet Muhammad. Holy Prophet Muhammad's life, his high moral values and permanent message must be carried to the whole world. All means must be utilized to introduce Muhammad in the most accurate manner. Organizing international symposiums on Muhammad may be beneficial," the statement stressed.

"The violent attacks on U.S. embassies are not within the boundaries of Islam. According to Islamic rules and moral values, we need to be loyal to agreements. Ambassadors, tradesmen or other contracted individuals entering a country can not be harmed. Holy Prophet Muhammad has forbidden the killing of ambassadors," the statement also said.

[Khalqat]

There are much more serious issues that need to be addressed than following on with this pathetic film. For example, I don't think any major muslim politician took up the issue of what happend to that egyptian lady who got stabbed to death in a german court. The way that incident took place, it sounded like the custodians who were present in the court did more to help the mentally-ill patient to stab her while on the other hand shooting her husband due to fear of the unknown.

I hope our media could bring this extremely disturbing incident, when the bullshit comes in the form of freedom and liberty.

[Pak-Son]

Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri calls for OIC moot on blasphemous film

Condemning in the strongest words the screening of blasphemous film in the US, Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri has said that those involved in the movie in any manner or role are enemies of the humanity. He said that no one could be allowed to undertake such heinous act under the banner of freedom of expression. He said that the sanctity of holy personages, Prophets and religions was protected under the United Nations Conventions and other laws and it was responsibility of individual country to ensure that no blasphemy takes place.

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that no institution, or an individual or a country could be allowed to hurt the emotions of over a billion Muslims. He asked the OIC to convene an emergency meeting of the apex Muslim body and force the US to shut down the screening of the accursed movie.
Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri also asked the President, Prime Minister of Pakistan, Opposition leaders and political forces that claimed to represent the masses to put across their feelings in a straightforward manner. He said that the Government of Pakistan should immediately summon the US Ambassador to the Foreign Office and lodge its strong protest, demanding a ban on the film.

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that one the one hand, there was unending talk of eliminating terrorism and establishing durable peace, on the other hand, such acts were being carried out, which had the potential of derailing peace efforts thereby rendering the world even more vulnerable to new dangers. He said that such acts could jeopardize world peace and spawn more terrorism. He said that there were strong possibilities that the world could plunge into a pit of destruction if such activities continued to take place unhindered.

Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said emphatically that if West was really interested in establishing peace and eliminating terrorism, it needed to act fast to put an end to such acts. He said that relevant laws existed in the world and their implementation in letter and spirit would help tackle radicalism. He said that there was also need to modify the legislations to make them more deterrent and stringent so that such heinous actions should be banned, which are undertaken in the name of freedom of expression.

http://www.minhaj.or...-US-America.htm

[BaburMissile]

Pak_Afaz, on 14 September 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

Paying attention to this movie is like paying attention to that kid with pencils shoved in his nose. On the one side we have a government comprised of 1000s of function with a budget in the billions and on the other a lone guy with a movie  who probably is more worried to jack off in the weekend then anything else. So im sure the government has better thing to do then respond and there on give attention to that dork kid. And remember the more attention we give to this kid the more dorky he'll get. So Mr. Imran plz keep your bashing for other real matters then a stupid video that should have only been a discussion just for the rednecks and not the entire world.

So, let me guess. Muslims shouldn't even protest (peacefully) the blatant denigration of their holy prophet (PBUH)? I don't know what planet you people come from. When Jews get insulted we hear cries of antisemitism. When Christians are insulted they rise up to defend their religion. When Hindus are ridiculed, they take matters into their own hands. Heck, Buddhists are slaughtering Muslims in Burma. I can go on and on. Yet, we have people on this forum that don't care about their culture and religion. Mind you, whims that are so afraid to just voice their protest in a peaceful manner. What a pitiful lot.

What rock have you been hiding under? IK has been ever so vocal and left no stone unturned in scrutinizing the mess in Pakistan. The government of Pakistan is the most corrupt ever. So deep in countless crises. I understand that they are worried about fixing their mess which they obviously never can. What you talking about? Billions of dollars in budget?   You mean billions of dollars in debt perhaps? Thousands of jobs handed out to relatives and friends who can't even read or write. Yep, many great things to worry about.

[BaburMissile]

Khalqat, on 14 September 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

There are much more serious issues that need to be addressed than following on with this pathetic film. For example, I don't think any major muslim politician took up the issue of what happend to that egyptian lady who got stabbed to death in a german court. The way that incident took place, it sounded like the custodians who were present in the court did more to help the mentally-ill patient to stab her while on the other hand shooting her husband due to fear of the unknown.

I hope our media could bring this extremely disturbing incident, when the bullshit comes in the form of freedom and liberty.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Whatever is wrong has to be called as such. By the way, if we apply your logic then there are countless other so-called more critical issues which also need to be addressed. This latest act of obscenity isn't rocket science as some people here are trying to portray as. I'm naturally not going to be kind to a person who resorts to badmouthing. It's as simple as that. Also, the movie happens to be the latest incident in a series of deliberate provocations. The argument of certain issues having more priority over others doesn't make any sense in this instance.

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US Ambassador Killed: Fingers Pointing at Israel


The murder of the US Ambassador to Libya John Christopher Stevens, due to riots after the offensive film attacking Islam’s Prophet Muhammad has many signs which warrant pointing fingers towards Israel. (Pic. Credit: AFP).

Without hesitation Israel declared through its official media that “Sam Bacile”, 56-year-old author identifies as an Israeli Jew, and he says that he believes that his film will help Israel to expose the flaws of Islam to the world.

הכותב והבמאי סאם באסילה שוחח עם כלי תקשורת ממקום שאינו ידוע, והתעקש כי הוא דבק בעמדתו: “האיסלאם הוא סרטן, נקודה”. הוא אמר כי באמצעות הסרט ברצונו להעביר מסר פוליטי. היוצר בן ה-56 מזדהה כיהודי ישראלי, ואומר כי הוא מאמין שהסרט שלו יסייע לישראל לחשוף את פגמי האיסלאם לעולם. לפי דיווחים בעולם, מדובר ביזם נדל”ן ישראלי-אמריקני. מובאות מהסרט, שדובבו לערבית, פורסמו ביוטיוב. באסילה אמר כי צר לו על האדם שנהרג הלילה בקונסוליה האמריקנית בבנגזי, אך האשים בכך את האבטחה הרפה במקום

At the same time official Israel is concealing information that filmmaker “Bacile” must have served with the Israeli army intelligence. In Hebrew media, “Bacile” presents himself as fluent in Arabic, what is to my knowledge almost exclusive to intelligence operatives in israel.

The media of the State of Israel stated that filmmaker “Bacile” went into hiding on Tuesday after his movie attacking Islam’s Prophet Muhammad sparked angry assaults by Muslims on US diplomatic missions in Egypt and in Libya, where the US Ambassador Chris Stevens became one of four Americans killed in the attack.

What the speaker did not state for foreign audiences was that Israeli zionist intelligence had protected the filmmaker since the beginning and that after having accomplished his mission. He is probably now back in his Israel enjoying full protection in Tel Aviv or Herzliya or somewhere else under a pseudonym.

There are suspicions that “Bacile”, now in Israel, carried a passport with another name. The elements of the Israeli zionist mossad and intelligence customarily carry several falsified passports under different nationalities and names. The suspicion that the film was made not by “Bacile” alone and on his own initiative, but that the whole thing was a premeditated operation of the Israeli zionist intelligence, designed to have exactly the effects it has had until now.

According to this website (http://www.breitbart...-Our-Ambassador) “the Libyan security forces hired to protect the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya moved Ambassador Chris Stevens to a second building within the consulate, then told the militant crowds where he was”. Libya has been essentially under the control of mossad since Gadhaffi was deposed by NATO-backed terrorists.

The attack on the consulate in Benghazi reminds us of the American-Israeli mossad agent Ilan Chaim Grappelli/Grapel, (אילן גרפל ), who was captured in Egypt during the revolution for inciting people to commit acts of violence.

Grapel was a war criminal who participated in the atrocities of the Lebanon “second war” in 2006, a former paratrooper who infiltrated the Egyptian revolutionaries and was causing trouble, inciting his acquaintances to perpetrate criminal acts against police stations and the military, spying on the military and the revolutionaries, photographing people and reporting to the Mossad, distributing money to some Egyptians and recruiting them to cause chaos, to steal and to sabotage public infrastructure in the country. Grapel had also been organizing a series of protest movements and preparing them to disobey orders of the military authorities after the overthrow of President Hosni Mubarak.

What Grapel did was the same scenario as in Benghazi, Libya. It is more than plausible that israeli elements had infiltrated the angry Libyan masses after showing them the film and incited them to shoot at the American embassy, where Ambassador Stevens and his team were killed. Such “false flag” attacks are the hallmark of mossad, which always play the same dirty games, putting oil on the fire, kindling hatred and inciting the unaware to perpetrate crimes.

Simply said, the offensive film made by an extremist zionist jew from the USA together with an Egyptian Copt served to kindle the flames of hatred in a region where restraint is almost unknown, preparing the terrain for “justifiable” violence.

The murder of the American Ambassador and three of his team was the logical consequence if one takes in account the guidance of the Libyan “security” team hired by the embassy. In sum, all well done, a plausibly deniable operation cooked up in the hellish kitchen of the Israeli intelligence, against their supposedly best friend and nearest ally.

According to what can be read, Ambassador Stevens had previously been a teacher in Morocco, he spoke fluent Arabic; he was very open towards the people and did not host racist prejudice against Arabs. Knowing the Israeli mentality, this may have been enough for him to become hated and ultimately marked as disposable at the zionist jewish-dominated US Department of State.

Another possible background for this operation, also from my knowledge of the Israeli zionist mentality, would be that they don’t know what to do to sow dissent in the Arab world since Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood won the elections in Egypt. This is strange because Morsi can be seen as a US/Western stooge who is ultimately favourable to Israel behind a facade designed to quiet his constituency.

Israel, the country which sickens everybody with their endless bellyaching about “anti-smetism” whenever their crimes are criticized, it is the same country which employs all its energy to think about ways to cause trouble and chaos for other countries and peoples.

The question is: what does israel think to do after this dirty game? It is becoming clear that israel has put this false-flag crime in scene as a cover of another big crime, or that that they want something from the Americans and will try to use this to twist their arm. What could it be that that they want? Is it the war against Iran or there is something else they want to force the USA to do? As of now, their dirty game would appear to have failed, as the whole event reeks of their participation.

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Who Is Alan Roberts, the Director of 'Innocence of Muslims'? We Think His Real Name Is Robert Brownell

By Rocco Castoro


Early yesterday morning VICE was anonymously furnished with documents that link a California man named Robert Brownell (aka Robert Brown) to the pre-production of Innocence of Muslims, the F-grade anti-Islamic film that has resulted in violent protests at and around US embassies in Sanaa, Yemen; Cairo; Tripoli; and Doha, Qatar. He is a man who has, as of yet, not been named in association with the film.

The documents clearly state that in 2009 and 2011 Robert Brownell purchased pre-production services related to Desert Warrior, which has been widely reported as the working title of the film that the world now knows as Innocence of Muslims.

The documents also include Robert Brownell’s address in Tarzana, California (or at least his address when the purchases were made in 2009; the property is now up for sale), phone number, and “contact information,” which lists yet a different name—Alan Roberts.


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If you’ve been following this story closely, you know that Alan Roberts was listed as the film’s original director alongside a man who produced—and some reports suggest ended up directing—the film: Sam Bacile, aka Sam Basselley, aka Nakoula Bassely Nakoula.

Peoplefinders.com lists a 65-year-old man named Robert Alan Brown in North Hollywood, California, as having the aliases Roboert [sic] Brownell and Alan B. Roberts. His “business associations” include Alan Roberts Entertainment. A cross-search on Nexis’s public records database seems to corroborate that Robert Brownell, Robert Brown, and Alan Roberts are all the same person.



Digging around on the person—or persons—named Robert Brownell, you’ll find myriad accounts for him on places like YouTube, GodTube, Jokeroo, and many other religious-themed video-streaming sites. (This video is particularly… interesting.) There’s also divinerevelations.info, a terribly designed website that on first glance appears to be an ode to a funny-looking Chinese Christian pastor named Yong Doo Kim, but if you keep digging you’ll discover that divinerevelations.info corresponds almost identically with a spiritlessons.com, “The Testimony of Robert Brownell,” a goofball account of some guy who was obsessed with porn but eventually found the lord.

After reaching out to crew members who worked on Desert Warrior/Innocence of Muslims, a few agreed to speak to me on background and confirmed that the Robert Brownell responsible for posting all of the pro-Christian videos I linked to above WAS NOT the Robert Brownell associated with the film, but they did confirm that the Robert Brownell in question is in his mid-50s to late-60s with gray hair and glasses.

So for now, exactly who directed this scourge of humanity—and whether or not it had multiple directors and producers—is still unclear, but I have a feeling it won’t be that way for long.

As I see it (and to make things streak-free clear, this is only my personal theory), there are two ways this can go: 1) Robert Brownell/Robert A. Brown is an unlucky guy who had his identity stolen by the person who paid for aspects of the film's pre-production (which isn’t out of the question considering that Nakoula Bassely Nakoula has gone to prison for identity theft, among other things), or 2) Robert Brownell/Brown and Alan Roberts are the same person. Multiple calls to and voicemails left on the number listed for Alan Roberts in the documents were not returned. And to my ears, the voicemail greeting states, "Hi, thanks for calling. I'm sorry I'm not in to take your call but if at the sound of the tone you leave me your name and telephone number, I'll be happy to get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks for calling and have a great day," spoken in the even-cadenced voice of a middle-age man. Is this Alan Roberts? Robert Brownell? Robert Brown? Will we ever know?

The documents also list a purchase made by a second (or possibly third) party: Jimmy Israel, who says he had minimal involvement in the film, the script of which he says was drastically different from the YouTube clips that have been denounced by members of the cast and crew and sparked widespread outrage in the Middle East. The accounts through which this information was obtained are registered to two users: Jimmy Israeal—and wouldn’t you know it—Adenob Basseley (whose address is listed as being in Hawaiian Gardens, CA, which would match up with the AP story that listed Nakoula Bassely Nakoula’s approximate location).

After innumerable dead-end calls and emails to Steve Klein, various cast and crew members, and completely unrelated people who happened to have the same names as people associated with the film, I attempted to contact Terry Jones (whom Motherboard interviewed yesterday) whose associate told me he was too busy to answer one follow-up question. When asked to relay the question she said, “No, nu-uh, we have never heard of a Robert Brownell or Robert Brown.” I pressed her: “Are you sure Terry has never heard of this name?” She said no. It seemed to me that if Robert Brownell played more than a cursory and unmemorable role in the film’s production, no one was going to own up to it.

The only other people to speak to me on the record were model and Desert Warrior/Innocence of Muslims cast member Tim Dax (who respectfully declined an interview with a “” and “Way too much!”) and, completely unexpectedly, Jimmy Israel—the only name without “Brown” in it that appeared in the leaked documents mentioned above.

Judging from our conversation, Jimmy seems like a very nice man. But if he does know Alan Roberts, or is friendly with someone named Robert Brownell, he did not spill the beans. (But if you have any information about this person or persons and are willing to share it with us, please email vice@vice.com.)

VICE: I was sent information that suggests you purchased pre-production services for Desert Warrior/Innocence of Muslims.
Jimmy Israel: I don’t deny that, but I will only speak for myself. No one else.

Yeah.
Then the original person came back. I worked two days on this job and that was it.

What was your official position on the production? Do you know if you’re credited in the film?
No. When Sam Bacile came to me he wanted me to produce the film, and I said OK. I am not a director; I am a producer. But I was going to—I wanted to direct the film. The original person who introduced me to Sam came back and said he would do it, so Sam went with him. So I worked two days and that was it.

What other movies have you produced?
I haven’t. I’ve written screenplays. I have worked at the very highest levels of European filmmaking, but they were not produced. I have only worked on very fine literary-type feature films. This was something that came out of left field. And when I read the screenplay I was really sick. Not so much because of the blasphemy of Mohammed, but how in the original screenplay his name isn’t Mohammed, it’s George.

Yeah, it seems like whoever was responsible for the final product majorly misled the cast and crew.
Yeah, and I mean it’s not—if you read the whole screenplay, you know, it’s very thinly veiled that [the main character is] Mohammed. You can tell that it is Mohammed, at least for me. It’s all of his characteristics. So that’s all I did, and then I was replaced. I think it wasn’t right that Sam changed the whole thing to include the blood, torture, and all of this horrible crap.

How did you meet Sam Bacile?
I met him through the other fellow, the fellow that originally took over to back the production.

And you’re saying that Sam Bacile is absolutely not Nakoula Basseley?
He’s not, he’s not—I’m sorry, what?

Sam Bacile and Nakoula Basseley are not—
I don’t know, I really don’t know. I heard Nakoula Basseley was the name of his son.

I see, but you’re saying that, as far as you know, they’re not the same person.
Well, he told me it was his son.

Do you know Robert Brownell, aka Robert Brown?
I have no comment on—it’s not my place to comment. I don’t know anybody else.

As far as I know, his name has not been associated with this film thus far. I do have his number and I do have other information about him, but you’re saying you don’t know this man?
No. I’m certain that I have no comment on this person at all. Like I said, I’m only here to comment on my own about myself.

Has there been any fallout from the film’s release? Have you had any death threats or anything?
No, no, no.

Seeing as you got out of it early—
I’ll probably be the first one to have [threats] because my name was found out. If you can find out and other people can… all the other news agencies are calling me. So…

And I know that must not be great, but I appreciate you talking to me.
I don’t have time, I’m not a wealthy man and I need work. As I said, I worked on this two days. That’s it.

It’s been reported that the original director, who you will not name, is in hiding.
Yes, he is. He is very frightened.

I would imagine. And did the original director know going in that perhaps Bacile had ulterior motives for the final product?
The film is about the persecution of Coptic Christians through Egypt. That’s what it’s about. The references to the pre-contemporary times where, you know, George appears are integrated into the story, the contemporary story. And so, what was the question again?

There have been allegations that it has been redubbed. I know you don’t have knowledge of this specifically because you weren’t—
No, I don’t have knowledge of that. What I think is that Sam Bacile went to Egypt. He told me he was trying to raise money. I don’t know why, how, and so forth, but he might have shown this picture and some people in Egypt might’ve said they wouldn’t give money out but they took a copy of it and dubbed it, that’s my guess. But did Bacile himself do this? I don’t know. Because, as I said, the name of the character [in the original script] was not Mohammed, it was George.

Do you have a copy of the original script?
I do somewhere, and I haven’t found it yet. I just got the calls yesterday. And I haven’t looked. I also have thrown out a lot, just recently, so I don’t know if I threw it out or whatever but I have my notes on the screenplay, which are pretty intensive. That’s what I’ve got.

You haven’t seen the full film, correct?
I have not seen the full film. I didn’t see anything from Sam because he still owes me money. He does to everybody on the film, I think. He was, he was still… he was kind. He’s not a vicious person but he’s kind of sly, you know, and what was the—

It’s OK, it’s very confusing, all of this. I guess I’ll ask you, have you ever known Sam Bacile to be anti-Islamic or extreme in any way in terms of ideology?
You know, he’s just… he was very concerned about the Coptic Christian problem. He is a Coptic Christian. That’s what he told me, and that’s what the story is about. It’s not about the hatred of Mohammed or the hatred of Muslims, but if you’re a Coptic Christian, when you’re being persecuted it’s kind of like being Jewish and having fear and hatred of the Nazis. I myself am a pacifist and don’t hate anybody.

Do you have any religious affiliation?
I’m mostly Buddhist but I was raised Jewish.

What do you think about the initial rumors that said the film was financed by wealthy Jewish backers?
That’s ridiculous. That’s totally, totally ridiculous. Sam himself was the person who put up the money, maybe $90,000, maybe 100, but you know, I don’t really know, something like that. And that’s all that was spent on the film. It’s a terrible film. I saw the clip on YouTube.

You haven’t seen the full film though, right?
No, no. I don’t even know if there is a full film. He was continuing to edit, and that’s all I know.

Do you know anything about how it ended up on YouTube? What I don’t understand is—
No. No, I don’t, I don’t. I was just… I guided myself there yesterday and took a look yesterday.

Something I don’t quite understand is that you said there’s a possibility that some extremists got ahold of the film when he was trying to get financing and dubbed it. Is that hearsay? Is it just a hunch you have?
That’s just my, you know, story of, you know, my fiction. I created that. I don’t know anything about that. He didn’t tell me that. He just told me he was in Egypt trying to raise money. So if you’re trying to raise money, you usually show part of the picture and then people say, “Oh yeah, we’ll give you what you want.” So I guess that’s—my guess is, that’s just a guess, that’s all it is.


http://www.vice.com/...robert-brownell

[Ababeel]

Shehz, on 14 September 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

Innocense of Muslims - It's a 15 minute home/back-yard/school stage made movie, uploaded on youtube!

15 minute is a trailer clip, actual movie is longer.

Shehz, on 14 September 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

Entire muslim population going bonkers over a young adult and his part time hobby, seriously. Why doesn't IK get the account hacked and take it off himself?

Entire 1.5-2 billion Muslim population has not gone bonkers, had they did there would have been legal action against such hate speech by now.

Shehz, on 14 September 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

Imagine, over 1 Bil people complaining about a youtube script, asking why doesn't the other person do anything about it. Okay, better idea, let's go kill the US ambassador.

There is no justification for killing innocent, and those criminals who do acts like this should be severely punished.

As for your other point, Imagine just 13 million people or even less, complaining about a remark by a handful of idiots about an event in history, and suddenly free speech becomes anti-Semitic and in most countries a criminal offense; & Evelyn Beatrice Hall famous quote gets flushed down the toilet: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

If Evelyn's quote can be flushed down the toilet for 13 million people surely an effort can be made not to condone & belittle, hate speech directed at 1.5 Billion people, as free speech or just another YouTube video trailer.

[Khalqat]

BaburMissile, on 15 September 2012 - 02:32 AM, said:

Two wrongs don't make a right. Whatever is wrong has to be called as such. By the way, if we apply your logic then there are countless other so-called more critical issues which also need to be addressed. This latest act of obscenity isn't rocket science as some people here are trying to portray as. I'm naturally not going to be kind to a person who resorts to badmouthing. It's as simple as that. Also, the movie happens to be the latest incident in a series of deliberate provocations. The argument of certain issues having more priority over others doesn't make any sense in this instance.

If you are standing in the midst of a storm, does it really matter how you get wet?

[KudosBot]

Imran taken aback by US ‘silence’


LAHORE - Slamming the government for its weak protest over a sacrilegious movie made in the United States, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan questioned the ‘silence’ of the American authorities over the issue.

In a statement on Friday, Imran said he was surprised by the silence of the US administration over this serious crime though the US had laws to punish the people involved in hate crimes.

He said the blasphemous film was the worst example of hate crimes and religious terrorism against Muslims and the US authorities could not hide themselves behind the freedom of expression in this particular case.

Imran called on President Asif Ali Zardari to mount up pressure on the US to bring the culprits to justice. The PTI chief called for adopting a joint strategy against such acts.

http://www.nation.co...-by-us-silence?

[Pak-Son]

PTA blocks 934 links of anti-Islam film


Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) Monday urged the nation to inform the authority any viewable links of Anti-Islamic websites promptly and efficiently.
"Through this release, it is again requested to bring into PTA's notice if any Anti-Islamic video is available for viewing through any ISP/mobile operator in Pakistan at any
time on following email; complaint@pta.gov.pk. The PTA will take prompt action," said a handout.

The statement also referred to the directions by the Supreme Court for blocking the access of all anti-Islamic blasphemous videos on YouTube, including recently launched anti-Islamic film that has sparked protests across the Muslim world.

"By Monday evening, 934 websites carrying such a material have been blocked on Internet by PTA out of which over 650 URLs have been banned on YouTube. However, the surge of Anti-Islamic Video is massive, causing unrest in the country," added the statement.

The PTA has sent a list of Anti-Islamic secured links to the Facebook, which have been blocked from viewing, the statement added.


http://www.nation.co...anti-islam-film


Dr Tahir ul Qadi On Aaj Kamran Khan Ke Saath Geo News On Blasphemous Film In The US 17/09/2012

[Chief of army staff]

Finaly, Rehman Malik Banned the you tube in Pakistan and he also asked Google to remove that movie or he will deport all of the Google's employees from Pakistan

[rungroot]

Oye???  Oh r malik may itna tabbarr??? aaho...

[MoThSmOkE]

Frankly, PTA should have blocked youtube and google altogether a week ago. But better late than never. Its good for Pakistanis that this thing does not get out of control, or else they'll just go on a rampage.

And as Shehz mentioned, we need to assemble a team of hackers to hack the youtube account of the person who uploaded this video.

If IK managed to do some research, whitehouse actually asked youtube to take out the video. The protest is misdirected it seems.

[rungroot]

never mind, just saw the news on geo that it's been blocked...

[Sanguine]

Someone had updated a status on facebook, "1 idiot v 1.62 billion idiots".

Why did PTA have to block youtube? I think they could have blocked the specific links.  I had to listen to a lecture of Dr. Israr and complete my notes but I guess I have to wait for couple of days.

[rungroot]

Fatima47, on 17 September 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

Someone had updated a status on facebook, "1 idiot v 1.62 billion idiots".

Why did PTA have to block youtube? I think they could have blocked the specific links.  I had to listen to a lecture of Dr. Israr and complete my notes but I guess I have to wait for couple of days.

Oh Behna,

It's a fincial hit, every single hit on YouTube and Google makes Google money!  So blocking it would hit them significantly.  At least that's the hope and will only work if they keep up the blockage for a few months.

[MoThSmOkE]

Fatima:

Blocking a specific youtube link wont do. Imagine if another person just download the video and uploads with his/her account, then?

Its good. Blocking youtube and maybe google would hurt them. If every muslim country does that, it'll wipe out 500million users from youtube and google instantly. Then maybe they'll learn.

[blueazure]

we should learn from china, they blocked and kicked out google since it refused to block porn links.. in the end, it had to come begging back and agreed to all of china's demands, but the damage had been made,

[blueazure]

^^
china vs google


http://forum.pakista...showtopic=87010

[Chief of army staff]

• News

Pakistan Bans YouTube, Google Blocks Video in More Countries
Added 18th Sep 2012
Shubhra Rishi

Once again, we are in the middle of yet another controversy created by another YouTube video, which has resulted in disruption of peace across countries earlier this week, causing the death of Chris Stevens, the U.S. Ambassador toLibya, and three other Americans when theU.S.embassy inBenghazi, Libiya, was stormed by gunmen.
According to news reports, the source of this unprecedented enrage among Muslims across nations is a 14-minute long YouTube video titled “Innocence of Muslims” that portrays the Prophet Muhammad as a womanizer and killer.
Controversial YouTube Video Blocked in More Countries, as Google Faces Legal Threats
Since its release, the YouTube video clip has over 10 million worldwide views, and still counting.
Initially Google refused to block the contentious video much after its content went viral. In its initial statement, Google had said that “it had already determined that the video did not violate its terms of service regarding hate speech.”
But it was quick to comply with requests inIndiaandIndonesiawhere it violated local laws.
In India, the "IT Rules 2011" adopted in April required Internet companies to remove within 36 hours of being notified by the authorities any content that is deemed objectionable, particularly if its nature is “defamatory,” “hateful,” “harmful to minors,” or “infringes copyright.” Last year in September, the Indonesian government had blocked access to approximately 300 Web sites that could inspire acts of terrorism.
WhileAfghanistanhas already banned the controversial video sharing website on September 12, The Ministry of Information Technology (IT) inPakistanhas blocked the YouTube website since yesterday.
But this raises the question whether countries need to have stricter online laws when it comes to controversial subjects such as race, ethnic origin or religion. Or should Google have overlooked the freedom of speech criteria and universally blocked the video before it turned into an international future?
What comes as a surprise is that Google’s YouTube Community Guidelines also state that they don't permit hate speech (speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity).
All in all, it’s a classic case of controversial online content that went viral and is causing global distress. Even if it is as small as a 14-minute YouTube video.

[Chief of army staff]

rungroot, on 17 September 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

Oye???  Oh r malik may itna tabbarr??? aaho...

Paa jee! He was on the news today and he issued the warning to google today. He said JAY AAJ RAAT TIKAR VIDEO REMOVE NA HOEE TAY MEIN OBAMA NU SHAQAT LAWAN GA. Jokes a part, he was serious and he used the word deportation. Kaafi heavy word use kiya hai. Chalo iss banday nay bhee koi changa kaam kiya

[motorola]

A reminder from the Qur'aan that many horrible things were said to Prophet Muhammad (, sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) in his own lifetime and he bore this with patience and trusted Allaah ( , subhanahu wa taa'ala) and in this is a fine example for the Ummah today. We should see this as an opportunity to explain the noble life Prophet Muhammad ( , sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) and the true message he was sent to convey to mankind. We should understand this is a test for us and we need to be patient and trust in Allaah ( , subhanahu wa taa'ala) and return to Him.

________________________________________________



In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Bestower of Mercy

Allaah ( , subhanahu wa taa'ala) Says:



"You shall certainly be tried and tested in your wealth and properties and in your personal selves, and you shall certainly hear much that will grieve you from those who received the Scripture before you (Jews and Christians) and from those who ascribe partners to Allâh; but if you persevere patiently, and become Al-Muttaqûn (the pious.) then verily, that will be a determining factor in all affairs (and that is from the great matters which you must hold on with all your efforts)."
The Qur'aan, Soorah Aal-'Imraan 003, Verse 186.

al-Mubarakfuri [rahimahullaah, died 1426AH] summarised the explanation of these verses from Tafsir Ibn Kathir which was written by the notable scholar Ibn Kathir [rahimahullaah, died 774AH] as follows:
"The Believer is Tested and Hears Grieving Statements from the Enemy

Allah said,

(You shall certainly be tried and tested in your wealth and properties and in yourselves), just as He said in another Ayah,

(And certainly, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives and fruits) (2:155).

Therefore, the believer shall be tested, in his wealth, himself, his offspring and family. The believer shall be tested according to the degree of his faith, and when his faith is stronger, the test is larger.

(and you shall certainly hear much that will grieve you from those who received the Scripture before you (Jews and Christians) and from those who ascribe partners to Allah) (3:186).

Allah said to the believers upon their arrival at Al-Madinah, before Badr, while comforting them against the harm they suffered from the People of the Scriptures and the polytheists;

(but if you persevere patiently, and have Taqwa, then verily, that will be a determining factor in all affairs.)

Therefore, Allah commanded the believers to be forgiving, patient and forbearing until He brought His awaited aid.

Al-Bukhari recorded that Usamah bin Zayd said that Allah's Messenger rode a donkey with a saddle covered by a velvet sheet and let Usamah ride behind him (on the donkey). The Prophet wanted to visit Sa`d bin `Ubadah in Bani Al-Harith bin Al-Khazraj, and this occurred before the battle of Badr. The Prophet passed by a gathering in which `Abdullah bin Ubayy bin Salul was sitting, before `Abdullah bin Ubayy became Muslim. That gathering was made up of various Muslims as well as Mushriks, who worshipped the idols, and some Jews. `Abdullah bin Rawahah was sitting in that gathering. When the Prophet reached `Abdullah bin Ubayy, the donkey caused some sand to fall on the group. Then, `Abdullah bin Ubayy covered his nose with his robe and said, `Do not fill us with sand.' The Messenger of Allah greeted the gathering with Salam, called them to Allah and recited some of the Qur'an to them. `Abdullah bin Ubayy said, `O fellow! No other speech is better than what you said, if it was true! However, do not bother us in our gatherings. Go back to your place and whoever came to you, narrate your stories to him.' `Abdullah bin Rawahah said, `Rather, O Messenger of Allah! Attend our gatherings for we like that.' The Muslims, Mushriks and Jews then cursed each other, and they almost fought with each other. The Prophet tried to calm them down, until they finally settled. The Prophet rode his donkey and went to Sa`d bin `Ubadah, saying, `O Sa`d! Have you heard what Abu Hubbab said (meaning `Abdullah bin Ubayy) He said such and such things. ' Sa`d said, `O Messenger of Allah! Forgive and pardon him. By Allah, Who sent down the Book to you, Allah brought us the truth that you came with at a time when the people of this city almost appointed him king. When Allah changed all that with the truth that He gave you, he choked on it, and this is the reason behind the behavior you saw from him.' The Messenger of Allah forgave him. Indeed, the Messenger of Allah and his Companions used to forgive the Mushriks and the People of the Scriptures, just as Allah commanded them, and they used to tolerate the harm that they suffered.

Allah said,

(and you shall certainly hear much that will grieve you from those who received the Scripture before you (Jews and Christians) and from those who ascribe partners to Allah;) (3:186), and,

(Many of the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) wish that they could turn you away as disbelievers after you have believed, out of envy from their own selves, even after the truth has become manifest unto them. But forgive and overlook, till Allah brings His command) (2:109).

The Prophet used to implement the pardon that Allah commanded him until He gave His command (to fight the disbelievers). When the Messenger fought at Badr, and Allah killed, by his hand, the leaders of the disbelievers from Quraysh, `Abdullah bin Ubayy bin Salul and the Mushriks and idol worshippers who were with him said, `This matter has prevailed,' and they gave their pledge to the Prophet and became Muslims.''

Therefore, every person who stands for truth, enjoins righteousness and forbids evil, will be harmed in some manner. In such cases, there is no cure better than being patient in Allah's cause, trusting in Him and returning to Him."

al-Misbaah al-Muneer of al-Mubarakfuri [Abridged Tafsir Ibn Kathir - English Edition Published By Darussalam]

[rungroot]

Chief of army staff, on 18 September 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

Paa jee! He was on the news today and he issued the warning to google today. He said JAY AAJ RAAT TIKAR VIDEO REMOVE NA HOEE TAY MEIN OBAMA NU SHAQAT LAWAN GA. Jokes a part, he was serious and he used the word deportation. Kaafi heavy word use kiya hai. Chalo iss banday nay bhee koi changa kaam kiya

  
Google may have a total of 5 employees in Pakistan, of yeah, that will really hurt em, !!!

[KudosBot]

PPP govt are all traitors they should have banned long before... these pricks take action a week to late..... Mushy closed down whole of youtube from the world that was ingenious stuff.....

[Pak-Son]

Female bomber kills 12 in Kabul to avenge film

KABUL: A female suicide bomber killed 12 people in Kabul on Tuesday in the deadliest single attack claimed to avenge a US film that has sparked a week of deadly protests across the Muslim world.
The attack brings to more than 30 the number of people now killed in a violent backlash over a YouTube trailer for the film, “Innocence of Muslims”, believed to have been produced by a small group of extremist Christians.

Security officials said nine foreigners were among those killed on a major highway leading to Kabul airport and close to a wedding hall when the bomber blew her station wagon up alongside a minivan carrying foreign workers.
An AFP photographer saw at least six bodies lying among the wreckage of a gutted minivan, and another vehicle destroyed by flames still burning in the middle of the highway, with debris flung all around.

Hezb-i-Islami, the second largest insurgent group after the Taliban who have been fighting US-led troops and the government for 10 years, claimed the attack.

It is extremely rare for the faction to claim a suicide attack in Afghanistan. It is also rare for women to carry out suicide attacks.
Taliban fighters last week stormed a British-run airfield, killing two US Marines and destroying six US fighter jets also to avenge the film.
A week of furious protests outside US embassies and other American symbols in at least 20 countries have killed 19 other people, including the American ambassador to Libya and three other US diplomats in the North African country.

In Lebanon, the head of Shia Muslim movement Hezbollah, which is blacklisted in the United States as a terrorist organisation, made a rare public appearance to warn of “very dangerous” repercussions if the film is released in its entirety.Tens of thousands of demonstrators poured into the streets of southern Beirut to denounce the film at the request of Nasrallah, who has called for a week of protests over the film, describing it as the “worst attack ever on Islam”.

“The US must understand that releasing the entire film will have dangerous, very dangerous, repercussions around the world,” he told the rally.

The filmmaker Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a 55-year-old Egyptian Copt and fraudster who was sentenced to 21 months in prison in the US in June 2010, has not been seen since Saturday when he was questioned by his US parole officer.Before dawn on Monday, officers from the Los Angeles County sheriff’s department escorted four members of Nakoula’s family to join him in hiding.

“I issue a fatwa and call on the Muslim youth in America and Europe to do this duty, which is to kill the director, the producer and the actors and everyone who helped and promoted the film,” said the Egyptian cleric, Ahmad Fouad Ashoush.

In Pakistan, two protesters died after demonstrating against the film in the northwest, close to the Afghan border, and outside the US consulate in Karachi.The US embassy in the capital Islamabad closed on Monday because of the risk of demonstrations and diplomats have been banned from all but essential travel.

Pakistan has also blocked access to YouTube, following the video-sharing website’s failure to take down the anti-Islam film.

Similar measures have been taken in Afghanistan. Google, which owns YouTube, has also barred access to the film in Egypt, India, Indonesia, Libya and Malaysia.There have been violent demonstrations this week in Kabul and Jakarta, spreading from deadly demonstrations on Friday that saw police battle to defend US missions from mobs in Egypt, Lebanon, Sudan, Tunisia and Yemen.

The United States has deployed counter-terror Marine units to Libya to protect its embassy in Tripoli and stationed two destroyers off the North African coast. On September 11, its consulate in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi came under sustained attack, killing four Americans, including ambassador Chris Stevens.

A Marine unit was also dispatched to protect the US embassy in Yemen, where police shot dead four protesters and wounded 34 others on Thursday as a mob breached its perimeter. There were more protests in Yemen on Monday.

The United States has evacuated all non-essential staff and family members from Sudan and Tunisia and warned US citizens against travel to the two countries


http://dawn.com/2012...n-kabul-police/

[Caesar]

Look at these idiots. They are demonstrating and damaging properties of other civilians and damaging thier own countries and getting killed for being mobsters over a film which was unknown...and thanks to these idots the Film is now in front of the entire world, and an unknown criminal who made this movie is now a Celebrity !!!

PEOPLE LIKE YOU NEED TO BE WIPPED ON YOUR ********** FOR BEING FULLY RETARDED INDIVIDUALS.

[Tipu-786]

Caesar, on 19 September 2012 - 02:50 AM, said:

Look at these idiots. They are demonstrating and damaging properties of other civilians and damaging thier own countries and getting killed for being mobsters over a film which was unknown...and thanks to these idots the Film is now in front of the entire world, and an unknown criminal who made this movie is now a Celebrity !!!

PEOPLE LIKE YOU NEED TO BE WIPPED ON YOUR ********** FOR BEING FULLY RETARDED INDIVIDUALS.

When the leaders are impotent specially  of strong Arab Nations in particular Saudi , UAE , Bharain , Qatar   etc.....     what you expect from jahil awam

say some thing bout jews  and see how jews and even christians leaders / countries stand up and shove the middle finger to whole world without street protest .......

[KudosBot]

New French cartoons inflame prophet film tensions

PARIS (AP) - A French magazine published vulgar caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad on Wednesday, inflaming global tensions over a movie insulting to Islam and prompting France to step up security at its embassies.

The move by the provocative weekly Charlie Hebdo followed days of violent protests from Asia to Africa against the U.S.-produced film "Innocence of Muslims" and turned France into a potential target of Muslim rage. Up to now, American government sites have drawn the most ire.

Violence linked to the amateurish movie, which portrays the prophet as a fraud, a womanizer and a child molester, has killed at least 30 people in seven countries, including the American ambassador to Libya.

On Wednesday, several hundred lawyers protesting the movie forced their way into an area in Pakistan's capital that houses the U.S. Embassy and other foreign missions.

The United States temporarily closed its consulate in an Indonesian city because of similar demonstrations and hundreds protested the film in Sri Lanka's capital, burning effigies of President Barack Obama.

The French government ordered embassies and schools abroad to close on Friday, the Muslim holy day, as a precautionary measure. It ordered the immediate closure of the French Embassy and the French school in Tunisia, which saw deadly film-related protests at the U.S. Embassy on Friday.

The French Foreign Ministry issued a travel warning Wednesday urging French citizens in the Muslim world to exercise "the greatest vigilance," avoiding public gatherings and "sensitive buildings" such as those representing the West or religious sites.

At the same time, the country - which has western Europe's largest Muslim population - plunged into a new debate over the limits of free speech in a modern democracy.

France's prime minister said freedom of expression is guaranteed, but cautioned that it "should be exercised with responsibility and respect."

Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius warned that Charlie Hebdo could be throwing "oil on the fire," but said it's up to the courts to decide whether the magazine went too far.

The magazine's crude cartoons played off the film and ridiculed the violent reaction to it. Riot police took up positions outside the offices of the magazine, which was firebombed last year after it released an edition that mocked radical Islam.

Charlie Hebdo's chief editor, who goes by the name of Charb and has been under police protection for a year, defended the cartoons.

"Muhammad isn't sacred to me," he said in an interview at the weekly's offices on the northeast edge of Paris. "I don't blame Muslims for not laughing at our drawings. I live under French law; I don't live under Quranic law."

Charb said he had no regrets and felt no responsibility for any violence.

"I'm not the one going into the streets with stones and Kalashnikovs," he said. "We've had 1,000 issues and only three problems, all after front pages about radical Islam."

Government authorities and Muslim leaders urged calm.

"This is a disgraceful and hateful, useless and stupid provocation," Dalil Boubakeur, rector of the Grand Paris Mosque, told The Associated Press. "We are not Pavlov's animals to react at each insult."

A small-circulation weekly, Charlie Hebdo often draws attention for ridiculing sensitivity around the Prophet Muhammad, and an investigation into the firebombing of its offices last year is still open. The magazine posted a statement online saying its website had been hacked.

Abdallah Zekri, president of the Paris-based Anti-Islamophobia Observatory, said his group is considering filing a lawsuit against the magazine.

"People want to create trouble in France," he said. "Charlie Hebdo wants to make money on the backs of Muslims."

Charlie Hebdo was acquitted in 2008 by a Paris appeals court of "publicly abusing a group of people because of their religion" following a complaint by Muslim associations.

Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said organizers of a demonstration planned for Saturday against the "Innocence of Muslims" won't receive police authorization. Paris prosecutors have opened an investigation into an unauthorized protest last Saturday around the U.S. Embassy that drew about 150 people and led to scores of arrests.

The debate about the limits of free speech spread to neighboring Germany, where Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle spoke on the topic.

"I call on all those, especially those who rightly invoke the right of freedom of speech, to also act responsibly. The one who now puts more oil on the fire on purpose, with obvious effect, is not the greatest thinker," he said Wednesday in Berlin.

The German Embassy in Sudan, which was attacked last week, remains closed and security at the country's embassies in other countries has been beefed up, he said.

The cartoonist of the French caricatures published Wednesday, who goes by the name Luz, was defiant.

"We treat the news like journalists. Some use cameras, some use computers. For us, it's a paper and pencil," he said. "A pencil is not a weapon. It's just a means of expression."

Outside the Charlie Hebdo offices, a passer-by wearing a traditional Muslim tunic said he was neither surprised nor shocked by the cartoons. He criticized France's decision to close embassies and schools for fear of protests by extremists.

"It gives legitimacy to movements that don't have any," said Hatim Essoufaly, who was walking his toddler in a stroller.

In Pakistan, the lawyers who protested in Islamabad shouted anti-U.S. slogans and burned an American flag after they pushed through a gate, gaining access to the diplomatic enclave before police stopped them. They called for the U.S. ambassador to be expelled, and then peacefully dispersed.

Much of the anger over the film, which denigrates Islam's Prophet Muhammad, has been directed at the U.S. government even though the film was privately produced in the United States and American officials have criticized it.

The U.S. Embassy in Indonesia sent a text message to U.S. citizens saying that the consulate in Medan, the country's third-largest city, has been closed temporarily because of demonstrations over the film.

About 300 members of Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia, a pan-Islamic movement, rallied peacefully on Wednesday in front of the consulate in Medan, the capital of North Sumatra province. Later, about 50 Muslim students also protested there. Both groups called on Washington to punish the makers of the film.

On Tuesday, Islamic militants sought to capitalize on anger over the film, saying a suicide bombing that killed 12 people in Afghanistan was revenge for the video and calling for attacks on U.S. diplomats and facilities in North Africa.

[Ababeel]

Pakistani hackers take down Charlie Hebdo website
A group of hackers have allegedly taken down Charlie Hebdo website, a French satirical weekly magazine, which published on Wednesday cartoons of Prophet Mohammad.
A group of Pakistani hackers called “Guardian of Honor of Prophet SAW” claimed responsibility for today’s attack on Charlie Hebdo official website: http://www.charliehebdo.fr.
The hackers said the publication of caricatures of the Prophet prompted the attack.
At 12pm GMT the website was still inaccessible.
A member of “Guardian of Honor of Prophet SAW” said in a statement:
‘The movement has begun, it will rise from heart of every Muslim regardless of age, color, cast and creed, with an aim to preach the masses that Freedom of Speech for hurting the sentiments of Muslims across the world is simply not acceptable.’

‘Dual standards are evidently shown when the free speech is about holocaust but the world least care when they put blasphemous contents about our Prophet SAW.
We will fight till our last drop of blood. We don’t promote violence, instead we peacefully put the down the website that had posted blasphemous content today.
We are ready to close down any blasphemous content published by any group using sophisticated TCP SYN attacks.
This move also shows the world that Muslims can protest in a more peaceful and technological way, instead of killing innocent people.
The French government speaks about freedom of speech, where was the freedom of speech and religion, when they banned Burqa and hijab in france?
We just demand justice for the hypocrisy that’s going on in the name of ‘freedom of speech’, If the government is not taking any action against so called blatant freedom of speech, We will do whatever is necessary to stop the blasphemous content of our holy prophet, and the whole Muslim Ummah is behind us.’
http://www.pakistank...e/#.UFnYGY2PXQg

[KudosBot]

‘Innocence of Muslims’ fake full movie released online


‘Full length’ Anti-Muslim film online

The full length version of the 14-minute ‘Innocence of Muslims’ film has been uploaded online despite an international outcry condemning its message. However viewers are not given the actual full length-film.

Across the Muslim world protests have raged through cities against the U.S, which has led to the deaths of more than 30 people in the ensuing violence. The tragedy of this film has yet to be realised but the damage caused has led to questions about whether films of this nature should be allowed to air at all. The original 14-minute film was recently re-uploaded but looped so that it would appear to be a full length feature. So far there is no online proof that a full length version exists.

To add to the difficulty, the media has spun this story to the point where many people of the Muslim faith outside of America believe it was Hollywood and the U.S Government that created this, which is not the case.

The low budget film, poorly executed and made by an Egypt born U.S Citizen has raised the question on whether films that ridicule the Prophet Muhammad and other religious figures should be allowed. It comes back to the essence of the freedom of speech argument, but is it really worth making a film that would cause such great offence to millions of people?
Where to watch the anti-Muslim film

We will not show the film here on our network as it is highly offensive and goes against our values on religious interpretation. There is no place for this kind of filmmaking, and it is a tragedy that it would be produced to offend the people of Islam. It also doesn’t represent the view of the U.S Government or Hollywood and it should be made clear that this film was produced by independent filmmakers who have their own set of values and beliefs.


To watch the video: Innocence of Muslims – 70
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Lady Gaga accused of hurting animals, Islam with one outfit


Never one to avoid controversy — usually related to her wardrobe choices — Lady Gaga now is reportedly being targeted by two very different extremist groups.Ads by Google


Gaga’s ongoing insistence on wearing fur supposedly has generated various threats against the pop phenomenon from a number of truly aggressive animal activists. “I’m hearing they are going to try and personally attack Gaga — spraying her with paint or even throwing feces at her,” said a source close to the activists.

A Gaga insider adds, “She just loves sticking it to those PETA people.”

† Far more serious is the growing fury from Islamic organizations who are outraged by Lady Gaga wearing a burqa to designer Philip Treacy’s show during London Fashion Week. The anger is targeted not at the burqa but at the clutch she carried, with the C-word clearly emblazoned on it.

“That comes across as a clear insult to Muslims and Islam,” said a Chicago-based representative of several Muslim groups, who asked not to be identified. I’m hearing that the uproar is leading to a big increase in Lady Gaga’s security detail.

All this is a bit confusing, given Gaga’s long advocacy of compassion for all religions. Like many others, she has been extremely upset by the release of the horrible 14-minute trailer for that anti-Muslim film that may have contributed to the murder of U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens and his three colleagues in Benghazi, Libya, last week.

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Pakistan declares holiday for prophet in response to film



The Pakistan government has declared Friday a national holiday in honor of the Muslim prophet Mohammed and called for peaceful protests against a U.S.-made film deemed insulting to Islam.

The cabinet decided to make Friday an official “day of expression of love for the prophet” in response to the “Innocence of Muslims” movie, Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira said.

The film, believed to be made by extremist Christians in the United States, has triggered more than a week of furious protests and attacks across the Muslim world, which have killed least 30 people.


The sudden announcement of the holiday came after religious parties called for a day of protest on Friday to denounce the film and lawyers demonstrating in Islamabad denounced the government’s “criminal silence” on the issue.

“We will send a message to the world that Muslims of Pakistan are protesting about this, and we won’t tolerate even a single sentence against the dignity of the holy prophet,” Kaira told a news conference.

“We should make peaceful protest and pray to god to remove the weaknesses of the Muslim people, because of which we are facing this situation.”

The head of a leading Sunni party, the Sunni Tehreek, on Monday urged people across the country to close their businesses and hold rallies against the film.

Sources said traders and transporters associations in the largest city and commercial hub Karachi had backed the call.

Around 500 protesting lawyers broke through a gate to Islamabad’s heavily-guarded diplomatic enclave on Wednesday, chanting anti-U.S. slogans and castigating the Pakistan government for failing to take strong action against the film.

A U.S. flag was laid on the ground and the protesting lawyers walked over it one by one. Later they burnt the flag before the rally ended peacefully.

Pakistan, along with Afghanistan and Bangladesh, blocked video-sharing website YouTube this week after it failed to remove the offensive film.

Wednesday also saw the publication by a French magazine of a series of provocative cartoons showing a nude Prophet Mohammed which are likely to further inflame Muslim anger.

Embassies, consulates, cultural centers and international French schools in around 20 countries will be closed on Friday for fear of being targeted in demonstrations following weekly prayers.
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Russia Threatens To Block All YouTube Access Over Anti-Muslim Film


MOSCOW - The General Prosecutor’s Office has filed a suit to declare the recent anti-Islam film “Innocence of Muslims,” extremist, which could lead to the blocking of YouTube across all of Russia by November, Kommersant reports.

A new law meant to protect children from exposure to information that will “interfere with their health or development,” including information that is extremist in any way will come into force on November 1. If the film is declared extremist and Google does not block access to the film, YouTube will be added to a black list and will not be accessible from inside Russia, Kommersant reports.

Google has already announced that it will not delete the film. However, it has restricted access to the film in India and Indonesia and has blocked the video from being shown in Egypt and Libya. The Russian prosecutor “strongly recommended” that Google block access to the film in Russia before the court makes a decision. Google’s headquarters in Russia refused to comment on the case.