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Now since having nuclear silos are open targets for preemptive strikes Pakistan as well as Iran(chemical arsenal) need to devise strategies to increase the survivability of the equipment in case of preemptive strikes.

Iran does not have nukes so can emulate the 2nd strike options with chemical weapons although less effective but still deterrant.

 

1- This you already have.  Say you have 70 nukes. just choose 5 of them and prepare the launch trucks.  Load the launch trucks to warship. Warship is vulnurable but still a better option than a static land target which will be targeted by preemptive strike. In case of an attack warship unloads the truck to the shore which would fire the ballistic missile.

 

2-This option both Pakistan and Iran has which is launching chemical or nuclear cruise missiles from warships. This option can be developed further to be launched from submarines but launching from surface warships is already an available second strike option.

 

 

 

3-Ship launched ballistic missiles. Both countries should work on it and come up with a solution as soon as possible. It is a deterrant and in case stealthier warships are built the deterrance would be much better.

 

4-submarine launched ballistic missiles. Which is somewhat ahead of us or maybe developed secretly. Diesel engine quiet submarines although carry less should be the option. Since it is a deterrant measure it is enough and more stealthier than nuclear submarines.

 

I am sure usa tries to portray countries like Iran and Pakistan as threats as boogeyman that would invade the world and stuff. North Korea already claims to have submarine launch system. Is it because these are muslim countries that turns them to boogeyman. Then usa needs to do more for israel. The trust with us and our allies is not so fragile and we know that if it is not there then at the end usa will impose what we should like and what we should be afraid of as it is currently trying right now.  

 

 

 

Also in addition to that surface launch of cruise missiles by submarines is possible which still has survivability of submarine. And firing of the cruise missile is easier when submarine surfaces above water.

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Submarine surface launch of Babur cruise missile and Iranian long range cruise missiles from diesel engine quiet stealth submarines should be a better detterrant in current conditions. and it is easy to modify submarines for surface launch.

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After the recent visit of usa to Russia it is clear that usa uses the recent issues like yemen
to put mistrust  between Russia and Iran and so on try to portray our developing potentials as
future threats to be overcome and to stay silent for an impending usa attack towards these countries.
usa claim of sharing of abm technology with Russia at least the claim of it aims Pakistan or
even Iran portrayed by usa as threats and targets in my opinion.
usa says countries to be taken care of as you stay silent and everything will be perfect after that.
obama speech of Iran supporting terrorism is also aligned with this as if usa does not give
support to terrorism through saudi arabia and others indirectly and is directly responsible with the sarin
attack in 2013. If Hezbollah was not there the region will be invaded several times by saudi terrorists after bombing

of israel.

Ofcourse we trust our allies. but late issues is used by usa. Iran's point in Yemen
should be understandable that it is not fair to sacrifice yemenis for crimea to be recognized by usa as it can claim to do so
or even yanukovich return to ukraine as bargain of saudi invasion as gain of some by sacrificing
others is unfair.

Even if usa puts mistrust in Russia everyone knows that there is too much to gain to have good relations
with Russia and too much to lose the other way. So our attitude would not change a bit and trust will redevelop
Regarding the trust issue China can be a good example being a brotherly country with both Pakistan and Iran     
and as usa whispers as a devil towards Russia China can tell the truth and potential.


but we also know that eventhough we get support from
our allies these two countries Pakistan and Iran have much in common and complement each other and when
things get serious there is no alternative between them and no one will reach for help except each other . Iran can provide and share conventional technology that they invested much as you develop your nuclear deterrant. This way without Iran building the nukes there will be
some sort of deterrance as Pakistan knows that after Iran it
would be the target if not targeted before Iran.


Besides in every issue as the countries are weak they demand support of Russia like in case of
Syria and it is understandable that Russia has its own problems cannot reach everywhere taking the
risk of confrontation with usa everytime it attacks somewhere.
China for example is strong and can handle issues effectively in east asia without any demand. Pakistan Iran collaboration
will be a deterrant in middle eastern issues as well.
otherwise saudi terrorism will be at everyones doorstep with usa supporting behind.

The threat is imminent. You need to get hands with Iran to overcome this challange with the
first step being development of second strike capability.

-keep your hands on the trigger from an attack by india or usa as of today.
-secure several nuclear assets inside submarines or ships as of tomorrow if not today or within several days.
-develop together with Iran crude form of second strike capability my means of launching
cruise missiles from surfaced submarines and ships within several months. submarines are the better option but ships are the quicker to develop and same technology can be implemented on subs as they surface over water. as the missile is slower and
corrects its course by itself after launch easier it shouldnt be much difficult compared to ballistic missile launch.
-continue working on the ballistic missiles from ships or subs.

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http://sputniknews.c...1022481189.html

 

Very absurd odd news hard to believe. what can happen at most is israel giving isis some mini nuke transferred through libya etc. to try this stunt.

The shock and awe created by this event would block everyone to think who did it and confuse others and usa can supply Pakistan scenarios with easily generated evidence.

 

Absurd but still shows the limits that they can they go. Possibly usa thinks that it can influence Russia in the security council even not China. Also considering Russia has somewhat 80s mindset about Pakistan they think at least this can be possible with some offerings for influence like cleaning up usa created own mess in ukraine etc. 

 

I dont think this can happen as well I trust Russia but it is better things not to come at that stage. That is why I continiously say that you need to acquire second strike capability to protect your nuclear arsenal from an attack. Another thing is both Iran and Pakistan are initial targets. They need to support each other and complement their lacking points since when things get serious they have each other as first line of defense. Also as usa is master of influence and knows both to create trouble and how to finish it as a bargain option as can be the case in ukraine in future or similar issues it is more secure to have this deterrant capability that usa cant risk like existence of israel would be at stake if anything happens and will not create trouble anywhere to bargain later with other world powers as well.

 

you already can develop naval cruise missiles. at least surface launch in case of submarines at this initial stage. For ship launched ballistic missiles Iran possibly has come to a level at that technology and can share with you. After these steps basic security would be ensured. Also Iran knowing that if nuclear attack comes from israel as it threatened lately as the nagasaki option. Later on Pakistan will not wait for israel to attack first. so nuclear option against Iran even without Iran having nukes would be out of the table from zionist powers with Pakistan having sufficient deterrance.

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In case india giving nukes you should check your ports especially india affliated ships but others as well what is loaded on them from the ports needs to be recorded. if possible check inside suspected ships.
I assume you already have nuke safety measures recordings and documentation of arsenal.however the usa guys directly or indirectly through client regimes supplying nusra isis with sarin gas and gets on well playing pretty even after that they can supply nukes someway as well.