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post Mar 14 2003, 06:23 AM
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Kiwis are allout for 147. :P :P :P . India kicking their ass :D :D :D .Too bad they were on a high after winning those matches on doctored pitches. :P :P :P :P I guess its australia's turn next :D :D :D
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post Mar 14 2003, 06:55 AM
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India 33 for 3 . Tendulkar Sehwag and Ganguly gone.
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post Mar 14 2003, 08:05 AM
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AFTER 25 OVERS IND 91/3 :: Kaif 41 & Dravid 25

GO INDIA GO :)Clp :)Clp :)Clp
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post Mar 14 2003, 08:33 AM
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India 112 for 3 . Kaif 53 Dravid 32. :)Clp
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post Mar 14 2003, 08:49 AM
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122/3(34.2) Kaif 57,Dravid 38 :)Clp :)Clp :)Clp
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post Mar 14 2003, 08:57 AM
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141 for 3 dravid gets his 50 . drvaid 52 Kaif 60 :jumpgreen:
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post Mar 14 2003, 09:02 AM
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India took perfect revenges in this world cup. Kiwis kicked out of Semis and Pak's Kicked out of super six :P B) B) .


They did it in great style eh. :P :P :P
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post Mar 14 2003, 09:11 AM
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Kiwis are out of the world cup. India won by 7 wickets.

The Indian middle order handled the pressure very well and won the match without any help from the top order batsmen.
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post Mar 14 2003, 10:03 AM
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NZ can still make to Semi if SL looses to ZIM else SL will go to Semi
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post Mar 14 2003, 10:30 AM
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when r we gonna see pakistan and india play each other again? most likely not until the next world cup. i hate when sports and politics are mixed toegther. the govt. of india is depriving the cricket lovers on both sides of quality games between the two nations. if they can play other sports why put restrictions to cricket only? that's bullshit i call. u guys should protest for this and bring this issue in front of your lok sabha or something.

BTW, england and new zealand both got what they deserved by refusing to play in zimbabwe and kenya.
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post Mar 14 2003, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (airchiefmarshal @ Mar 14 2003, 10:30 AM)
when r we gonna see pakistan and india play each other again? most likely not until the next world cup. i hate when sports and politics are mixed toegther. the govt. of india is depriving the cricket lovers on both sides of quality games between the two nations. if they can play other sports why put restrictions to cricket only? that's bullshit i call. u guys should protest for this and bring this issue in front of your lok sabha or something.

BTW, england and new zealand both got what they deserved by refusing to play in zimbabwe and kenya.


Airchiefmarshal,

It is indeed most unfair that the Indian Government has taken this Political Step, but, they justify it by making it to be a step which will help the Pakistani Government to Co-operate with India. I cannot say for certain if the Indian Government will succeed.

You see Australia, New Zealand and West Indies also refuse to TOUR Pakistan. However they are prepared to play with Pakistan in their own country as well as play Bilateral Series with Pakistan in a neutral country.

The trouble is that even the Members of the Indian Cricket Team are now inclined to say that ‘’We will not play Cricket with those responsible for Kargil and other Terrorist attacks in India’’.

As all other Teams are coming to India we Indians are forced to accept our Government’s decision, with reservations of course, as we cannot say that Indian Cricket will be destroyed if Pakistan does not play with India.

I cannot agree that playing Cricket with India is important to the Pakistani Cricket Team.

However I hope that the political climate between India and Pakistan improves so we can see our two Cricket Teams playing each other.

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post Mar 14 2003, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE (yshaks2000 @ Mar 14 2003, 09:02 AM)
India took perfect revenges in this world cup. Kiwis kicked out of Semis and Pak's Kicked out of super six :P B) B) .


They did it in great style eh. :P :P :P


yshaks2000,

My good friend we are lucky that India beat Pakistan as well as New Zealand.

However there is no point in jumping up and down in a jingoistic manner. Cricket, like every other sport, is a game of Chance and it is usually the better team on the day of the game who wins.

What would you do if instead of India beating Pakistan on the First of March it was Pakistan that had beaten India? India might not have even got to the Super Six Stage.

So rejoice in India’s Victory but there is no point in casting aspersions on the Teams that lose to India. Tomorrow India might be wearing the ‘’LOSERS’ SHOES’’.

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post Mar 14 2003, 01:02 PM
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post Mar 14 2003, 01:30 PM
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Foreign teams will tour Pakistan, sooner or later. Once the security situation gets better.

I wont like to be seeing India Pakistan match as yet, considering our team's state of affairs.

Ajgir:
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The trouble is that even the Members of the Indian Cricket Team are now inclined to say that ‘’We will not play Cricket with those responsible for Kargil and other Terrorist attacks in India’’.


How come the BCCI convinced them to play against Pakistan in the World Cup? :o
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post Mar 15 2003, 07:06 AM
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QUOTE (MoThSmOkE @ Mar 14 2003, 01:30 PM)
Ajgir:
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The trouble is that even the Members of the Indian Cricket Team are now inclined to say that ‘’We will not play Cricket with those responsible for Kargil and other Terrorist attacks in India’’.


How come the BCCI convinced them to play against Pakistan in the World Cup? :o


MoThSmOkE,

Firstly the Indian Team had been allowed to proceed to South Africa and Play Pakistan in the World Cup. Now you will appreciate that the players cannot go against their Government. As regards visiting Pakistan the Indian Government has not permitted.

Secondly I think all these actions are for Money.

India won Five of the 6 Group Matches
So the Team earned USD 10,000 x 5 i.e. …..USD 0,050,000

India won Three of the Super Six
Matches and earned USD 40,000 x 3 i.e. …..USD 0,120,000

Let us say India Loses in the
Semi-final. India will earn USD 400,000…......USD 0,400,000

Losing Semi-Finals Indian Team Earns.USD 0,570,000 + USD 250,000 FROM BCCI

If India win the Semi-Final And
Lose the Finals India’s total Earnings….USD 0,970,000 + USD 500,000 FROM BCCI

In the unlikely event that the Indian
Team win the Finals
Then they hit the Jack Pot and Earn……USD 2,170,000 + USD 1,000,000 FROM BCCI

i.e. As things stand the Indian Team will Earn a Minimum of USD 820,000 most probably USD 1,470,000. This amounts to about USD 50,000 to USD 85,000 per Team Member.

In the unlikely event that India win in the Finals the Team will earn USD3,1700,000
i.e. about USD 185,000 per Team Member.

I agree that the sum of USD 50,000 to USD 80,000 may be small pickings to Pakistanis but - pardon my language - it is a Hell of a Lot of Money in India.

So MoThSmOkE this is all about PAISA, BAHUT PAISA AUR BAHUT BAHUT PAISA.

In comparison the Pakistan Team has won a Total of USD 32,500 (2 Wins X USD 10,000 + 3 Losses X USD 5,000+ USD 7,500 for the Tie) at the World Cup.

In addition I think both the BCCI and PCB will get a couple of Million US Dollars.

Let the best team win.

P.S. My calculations above are based on the Prize Money Indicated on the cricinfo Web Site.

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post Mar 17 2003, 06:20 AM
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Here is an article form Dawn :

Pakistan to push ICC on Indian boycott

JOHANNESBURG, March 16: Pakistan will push for sanctions against India for refusing to play Test matches against it when the Executive Board of the ICC meets here later this week, a top official said on Sunday.

"We want the matter to be taken up seriously because India's refusal to play us is hurting the game in the region," Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) director Chishty Mujahid said.

The Executive Board will meet here on Saturday, a day before the World Cup final at the Wanderers.

The Indian government has banned bilateral cricket with Pakistan since June 2000 in protest at Islamabad's alleged support to Islamic militants in the disputed Kashmir region.

But both teams face each other in multi-nation events like the current World Cup where India and Pakistan played in the preliminary league at Centurion on March 1.

The match passed off without an incident as India recorded a comprehensive six-wicket win.

India is scheduled to tour Pakistan for a three-Test series next month, but the visit is unlikely to take place.

India are committed to playing a tri-series in Bangladesh in mid-April featuring South Africa and the hosts.

"The writing is on the wall, the Indians will not be coming to Pakistan, although we have not had any official word from them," Chishty said.

Under the 10-year Test programme of the ICC, India and Pakisan are scheduled to play four series till 2010.

Indian cricket chief Jagmohan Dalmiya had earlier this month urged the federal government to allow the April tour of Pakistan to go ahead to prevent India from being isolated on the world stage.

"If India do not play against Pakistan, the equilibrium of world cricket will be severely affected because the World Test Championship cannot be decided," Dalmiya wrote to sports Minister Vikram Verma.

India last played a Test match in Pakistan in January 1990, while Pakistan toured India in 1999 despite threats from Hindu fundamentalists to disrupt the tour.

"Pakistan's hopes of organising a tri-series with England and Zimbabwe next month to fill the void left by India did not bear fruit," Chishty said.-AFP

Let us hope for the best.

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post Mar 17 2003, 09:08 AM
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If Pakistani board has any brains, they will push for pressure and not boycott. By boycott, not only PCB but ICC stands to lose a lot of money.


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post Mar 17 2003, 09:12 AM
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Ajgir:

Exactly my point. Why not be explicit about it. That the game is about PAISA. Why bring politics inside?

As was your assertion; I quoted!

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post Mar 17 2003, 09:28 AM
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If India is boycotted, then ICC loses 80% of its income, which comes from Indian sponsors :)
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post Mar 17 2003, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (MoThSmOkE @ Mar 17 2003, 09:12 AM)
Ajgir:

Exactly my point. Why not be explicit about it. That the game is about PAISA. Why bring politics inside?

As was your assertion; I quoted!

:)


MoThSmOkE,

All is Fair in Love and War.

India would like Pakistan to reciprocate the MFN Status given by India to Pakistan. Pakistan Refuse. India can DO NOTHING.

India wants Land routes access to Afghanistan and Central Asian Republics. Pakistan refuses. India can DO NOTHING.

India has asked Pakistan to hand over the Indian Gangsters & Terrorists sheltered by Pakistan. Pakistan. Pakistan refuses. India can DO NOTHING.

India has asked Pakistan stop the Jehadis and other Terrorist in Kashmir and other Parts of India i.e. Stop Cross Border Terrorism. Pakistan refuses. India can DO NOTHING.

So :

India stops its Cricket Team playing Pakistan – PCB loses big Money – USD 20, 30, 40 0r 50 Million – who knows. Pakistan can DO NOTHING.

India also refuses to take Gas from Turkmenistan and Iran via Pakistan. India refuse. Pakistan ends up losing USD 1.50 to 2.00 Billion per year as Transit Fees. Pakistan can DO NOTHING.

The only good thing is that although Pakistan does not allow Indian Artists to perform in Pakistan at least the India allows Pakistani Artists to perform and Earn Big Money in India.

Pakistan does what Pakistan Wants. To Hell with India.

India does what India Wants. To Hell with Pakistan.

This is the attitude taken by both sides.

Who knows when good sense will prevail?

We, common people, can only resort to the Virtue of Patience Stoically.

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post Mar 21 2003, 07:43 AM
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MoThSmOkE,

Latest Position of Indian Players Earnings from the present Wold Cup Series :

India won Five of the 6 Group Matches and Lost One
So the Team earned USD 10,000 x 5 + USD 5,000 x 1 i.e. USD 055,000

India won Three
of the Super Six Matches and earned USD 40,000 x 3 i.e.. USD 120,000

Australia will win the Finals. India will earn USD 800,000...USD 800,000

B C C I will pay
Rs. 3.75 Crores i.e. Rupees 37.5 Million i.e. USD 750,000…USD 750,000

i.e. The total will be USD 1,725,000 amongst 15 Players i.e. USD 115,000 EACH ON THE BASIS THAT AUSTRALIA WINS THE FINALS.

In addition to all this money most of the Indian Players make Huge Sums in Sponsorship Fees, in Endorsement Fees also working as Models etc. etc.

I think India has got as far as it can as I don’t see India beating Australia in the Finals.

May be if the Indian Team has Good Duas from our Pakistani Friends then there might be the chance of an upset.

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