Pervez Musharraf To Return To Politics, I say good form him Options

[platinum786]

ISLAMABAD: Former president Pervez Musharraf has decided to jump into full time politics but not until he moves into his new home at Chak Shahzad as he does not want to misuse the Army House.

“I don’t want to make the Army House a hub of political activities because of its unique nature, but my political headquarter will be my personal residence once I shift there,” Musharraf has told his visitors.

One of them asked him about the political platform on which he would fall back to which the former president posed a counter question: Will the PML-Q not be available to him for the purpose?

To this, the visitor pointed out to him that it would all depend on the Chaudhrys of Gujrat, who were in charge of the PML-Q, to allow him the use of their party’s platform for his politics. He also mentioned that in the last few weeks of his rule his relations with the Chaudhrys had been seriously dented because Musharraf had wanted to dump Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain as the PML-Q president.

The visitor said the Chaudhrys were no more frequent visitors of Musharraf’s residence thinking that he was of no more of any consequence politically. Musharraf was explained what fate has befallen Imran Khan, who had embarked on a solo flight by launching his own party after believing that he was too popular as a former cricketing hero.

Another visitor, who is a former federal minister and worked with Musharraf for five years, said the former president was too optimistic about his “political standing and future” despite the fact that he was “deadwood” now and has no political prospects whatsoever.

However, the visitor said that Musharraf was very disappointed over the performance of the present government and told him that on the request of the previous finance minister (Ishaq Dar) he had talked to China for financial support that had been provided.

He said he wondered what had Musharraf in his pocket to be so confident about himself. He said his state was no different from what it used to be when he was holding the top office. The former minister said Musharraf told him that he was planning to undertake visits to some foreign countries in the near future and his first stop would be Saudi Arabia where he would also perform Umra.

Since the former president’s resignation, the only publicly known high-profile activity organised at the Army House a few days back was when he hosted the recently retired top officers of the armed forces which was also attended by Chief of the Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.

The former minister said some other visitors have told Musharraf that the PML-Q was relevant as a political party only during the time when he was the president of Pakistan. After his exit, it has no political bearing and that’s why it is in the wilderness since his resignation. He added Musharraf was well aware of the plight of the PML-Q where most of its leaders and MPs were following a wait and see policy to decide about their future.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=17876

[platinum786]

He might not be exactly what we need, he's made some really bad decisions, but he held the country together through these decisions.

He's got to be better than the current government, and the main opposition (Ganja league).

[Asad]

Geo Musharraf!

[instantexcess]

GEO MUSHARAF!

[Saqr]

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[dargay]

I think this might be a premature decision by Musharraf. He should wait 2 years before making a return to politics. He has just barely left.

[instantexcess]

he's in a private disscussion with someone ...

obviously Jang added Mirch Masala & misquoted the quote grossly.

But Musharaf wouldn't mind himself in the news once every 30~60 days if he is really interested in a comeback & yes

Just before the fall of this Hukumat he can take his plight to the streets.

[Saqr]

He might be able to use AML as a platform, but will require a lot more members in order to put up a strong competition...let's hope that the good elements from PML-Q & N, PPP, MQM, etc, all join up.

[visioninthedark]

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[waz]

Good for him.

[joshi]

He might be able to use AML as a platform, but will require a lot more members in order to put up a strong competition...let's hope that the good elements from PML-Q & N, PPP, MQM, etc, all join up.

obviously aml was made for him, im sure he had in his mind that he will have to resign even before the elections., im sure hes got a very grand stratery in place to enter politics and be the next pm.

[joshi]

Musharraf reaches Lahore

LAHORE: Former president Gen® Pervez Musharraf arrived in Lahore on Saturday. Sources said Musharraf arrived in Lahore via special plane and left for an unknown location under tight security. nni

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[Salim]

I think, Pakistani politics need few things and if anyone has that, nothing can stop that person to lead Pakistan from nowhere, regardless of that person is crook or honest.

1: A bit of intelligence or intelligent people behind the person (for insincere Aspirant, mind of a devil would help).
2: Energy and ability to address masses convincingly (truth or lies should not matter).
3: A good political and social program (does not matter if the program is with sincerity or to fool the masses).
4: Backup of money ... a lot of it.
5: Number of strong gundas in all constituencies, who can give protection from gundas of other political parties (to the affiliated candidate of this person) and give appropriate response to other parties and their gundas when needed.
6: Plenty of propaganda
7: In present environment, support from journalists and Media by buying them or forcing them to cooperate, using money or gundas. We should remember that other political parties would be paying Journalists or would be using their influence in media to do propaganda, and person would need countering media propaganda effectively. [Most present Journalists are immoral thugs who would sell their soul for few dollars].

[Shehz]

Musharraf has refuted the news article, saying he has no plans to re-enter politics.

[Salim]

Musharraf has refuted the news article, saying he has no plans to re-enter politics.

Wait one more year (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/smile.gif)

[must7]

Wait one more year (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/smile.gif)

Great news ....

[smegster]

However, the visitor said that Musharraf was very disappointed over the performance of the present government and told him that on the request of the previous finance minister (Ishaq Dar) he had talked to China for financial support that had been provided.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=17876

Ishaq Dar ruins Pakistan's economy by wasting all his time working on a charge sheet against the Musharraf government THEN ends up asking for help from Musharraf.

This explains exactly why we need Musharraf back, Musharraf is willing to help Ishaq Dar and the PPPP/PML-N government even though they had spent the last years insulting him on TV.

Instead of the politics of revenge, for Musharraf it is always Sab Se Pehle Pakistan (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/PakistanFlag.gif)

[Pikes]

cant wait to see him back..
he is way better than Mr 99 % ghaddari and his fellow democRATS

[*Zarrar Jareeh*]

Musharraf says he’s not entering politics



By Iftikhar A. Khan

ISLAMABAD, Oct 18: Former president Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf has said he has no intention of entering politics.

Gen Musharraf has been leading a quiet life since he resigned in August amid calls for impeachment and trial on high treason charges.

“Whosoever is attributing such information to me is absolutely wrong. I have not talked to anybody about politics,” Gen Musharraf was quoted by Gen (retd) Rashid Qureshi as saying.

Talking to Dawn, Gen Qureshi said the former army chief would shortly be moving to his farm house near Islamabad which is under construction. He said the farm house would not be used for political activities.

Another source close to the former president said the sprawling farm house in Chak Shahzad would soon be ready and Pervez Musharraf would shift to the place in months.

The source said the former president had no plans to settle in Turkey or any other country, though he might undertake a foreign visit in the “near future”.

http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/19/top10.htm

[sobank]

GEO MUSHARAF!

party at instantexcess house............................................... hehehehhehehehe

just wait till i come back from thunder bay. must 7 is coming too so it should be fun.

This post has been edited by sobank: Oct 19 2008, 12:06 PM

[Aliph Ahmed]

Atlast !!

A somewhat good news to read on this forum in a long time.

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party at instantexcess house............................................... hehehehhehehehe

just wait till i come back from thunder bay. must 7 is coming too so it should be fun.

I want to join too !!

[Shehz]

I want to join too !!

Sirf baro-n ki dawat hai.
Instant's in because it's his house.

Leykin, agar, merey taxes magically ho jaey February mey ....... just a thought.

[instantexcess]

party at instantexcess house............................................... hehehehhehehehe

just wait till i come back from thunder bay. must 7 is coming too so it should be fun.

Great News indeed, even though he denied it 24 hours later.

However, i am less than convinced if i can introduce you guys to my rent's without making the Introduction awfully awkward ... something like this:


Dad .... Meet Sobanks, Must7, 2 aliph 5 & Shehz ... all with over 3000 posts on PDF each.

But seriously though ... if he ever takes oath again as the PM or President .... the Dinner's on Me & you guys pick the place.

Sirf baro-n ki dawat hai.
Instant's in because it's his house.

Leykin, agar, merey taxes magically ho jaey February mey ....... just a thought.

No .... house belongs to rents ... I am the guy who just hangs around .... actually ... i am in that Post-School --- Pre-Barbadi stage & would be there sometime :D

This post has been edited by instantexcess: Oct 19 2008, 01:29 PM

[Caesar]

This man should remain retired. He has caused enough trouble for the country by pursuring his YES US policies and giving up country's strategic goals to India and US.

[sobank]

becoming head of state through proper election brings a different kind of strings attached. i think he would do good if he has to answer some people. For some people 100% power is never good. Mush is that kind of person. have him PM and he will do things much better.

[must7]

Great News indeed, even though he denied it 24 hours later.

However, i am less than convinced if i can introduce you guys to my rent's without making the Introduction awfully awkward ... something like this:
Dad .... Meet Sobanks, Must7, 2 aliph 5 & Shehz ... all with over 3000 posts on PDF each.

But seriously though ... if he ever takes oath again as the PM or President .... the Dinner's on Me & you guys pick the place.
No .... house belongs to rents ... I am the guy who just hangs around .... actually ... i am in that Post-School --- Pre-Barbadi stage & would be there sometime :D

Guys .. the day Gen. Musharaff comes back .. dinner is the most minimal you can get from me.

It will be a day when I will have real tears of happiness in my eyes.

PS : Thanks for the commotion over my arrival, it has been 8 long years of seperation from Canada ! Just checked Etihad's flight it's full .. full ... full .. 20 seats on club class available !

[Aliph Ahmed]

Forget the house,

Let us meet somewhere for (Timmies/Dinner/Baskin Robins) this upcoming weekend !!

[Speedray]

This man should remain retired. He has caused enough trouble for the country by pursuring his YES US policies and giving up country's strategic goals to India and US.

pro US policy , was not that pro America as media potrayed it before his resignation .. but that was the tactic to keep the economy stable until u r strong enough to say "NO US" ..khair currently now u can see decline of the country

Man ... note my words !

Soon , may be within an year or so our bholi bhali Awamm who were fooled by nawaz and zardari jazbati speeches , they will miss Musharraf and his team. Educated people already can see the condition of country after election.

PLUS, Compare the current team of Zardari's economist with Team Musharraf . You canl see the difference in calibre .


Whenever Musharraf will decide to come in politics I am sure he will get 100% support (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/PakistanFlag.gif) from Mini-Pakistan.

Karachi will always remain thankful for Musharraf for the development from 1999 to 2008.

[Salim]

Great news ....

Present situation is that, legally Musharraf should not talk politics until Dec 2009, two years after his resignation from post as government employee. So, even if he says anything about his political ambitions, still he would (and should) deny that officially. As for his coming back in politics, even if he would not like to then also people would pull him in. Musharraf has left an impression of his personality, strength, capability, resolves and honesty amongst large section of population, that none have amongst Pakistani leaderships. His performance in power is also such that any leader could brag about.

Obviously, pro-Taliban and die-hard anti American Pakistanis do not like Musharraf, but huge section of Pakistanis love and respect Musharraf and his style of leadership, governance, and attitude while in office. Many have already started missing his strong leadership and progress Pakistan was making during his reign. Someone told me that Javed Hashmi (PMLN) was saying somewhere that situation in Pakistan is deteriorating so fast that in few months, even those who hated Musharraf would start saying loudly about Musharraf that ... ‘terie yaad ayie teray janay kay baad’.

So, it would be gold mine for many political parties to use popularity, integrity, and reputation of President Musharraf in any future election. From what I see, it seems that PMLQ as party is waiting eagerly for time when Musharraf could come back in politics and that is why I believe they are showing so much resolve in staying together as party, so to give him stage when he returns. PMLQ knows that as President and Army chief, Musharraf could not have taken charge of the party, still people considered PMLQ as his party, and that is the reason party got over 8 million votes, second to only PPP, a party that was riding high on BeNazir death. Only two parties, PMLQ and PPP, got representation from all 4 provinces.

Further, there are many other political personalities and parties that did not join PMLQ because even though they wanted to support Musharraf, they did not like PMLQ under Chaudharies. During Presidential election, Musharraf got votes from not only some MMA parliamentarians including parliamentarian of JI, but also vote of lone ANP senator, showing that Musharraf policy and popularity is liked by people across party line. Once Musharraf would take control of PMLQ, it is possible that PMLQ would attract many leaders and voters of other leading parties, including PMLN and PPP.

Sometime I feel that one reason Musharraf resigned from army could be preparation to come in politics, else probably he would not have left army. I think that the reason he resigned from Presidency could be also calculated, as probably he did not wanted to make political platform so tense that it affects his political standing in Pakistan. I believe his resignation from Presidency was good move if one thinks that he intends to come back in politics. So, I believe that there is good chance we would see Musharraf again in politics once his 2 years period would be over in December 2009.

[demonslayer]

Former President cleared the rumour that he is returning to politics. He knows that it is too soon. Although the country's conditions has worsened economically since he left and that doesn't seem to be a direction where Pakistan is going. No one knows what are the goals set by the present govt? FDI is greatly reduced. Poverty has risen considerably.

But it is too soon. Let the people realize their mistakes first on electing this govt into power. Than we also have ganja waiting in the wings to get a chance to loot Pakistan. What former President Musharraf should do is to hold talks with his political friends and keep in contact with them. Also, he should woo Imran Khan back to his side. If there is any chance that Pakistan can progress in the future than I believe that it will be a partenrship of FP Musharraf and Imran Khan. Right now they are the only two who really seem to care about Pakistan and have in their own ways done much for Pakistan. I think it will be a mistake to align again with the Chaudary brothers as they are as corrupt as ganja and Zardari.

And the day former President Musharraf indicates that he wants to come back to politics. I will be one of the first one to congratulate Pakistanis all over the world. I already have the slogan in mind.


BACK MUSHARRAF BACK.

[dargay]

Speedray and Salim's points are interesting. I agree Mr Musharraf needs to wait 2 years, and just make a statement from time to time to keep his name in the news, preferably twice a month. Then he should make a comeback by starting in karachi, the city where he seems to be quite popular.

[Yahya]

5 easy steps to power for musharaf.


1: go on tour of OIC countries, give some momentus speaches about unifications of recources to combat terrorism by Isreali and indian in Palestine and Kashmir respectively.
2: denounce the constitution and demand for president to be elected not by electoral college, but by the people them selfs,
3: praise shaukat tareen and and his work in present turmoil while reminding people who bought tareen into political focus.
4: donounce american intervention in Pakistani democracy, and their attemps to control the media, economy and hence people of pakistan
5: declare a intention of war with india over kashmirs freedom.

[joshi]

he must be very very very carefull with what he says, especially about usa and india as their agents are sitting in the media and will try their best to make him look like a fool

[Salim]

Speedray and Salim's points are interesting. I agree Mr Musharraf needs to wait 2 years, and just make a statement from time to time to keep his name in the news, preferably twice a month. Then he should make a comeback by starting in karachi, the city where he seems to be quite popular.

I do not think that Musharraf is going to contest election in any constituency (though I could be wrong). I believe that he would be supporting his party as president of the party, and would only contest election as 'President of Pakistan' with the help of PMLQ and other parties. Actually, I believe that this would be the best way for Musharraf to enter politics. Most likely, with time we might see and would accept parliamentary democracy in Pakistan with very strong Presidency.

We should know that Presidential election in Pakistan is such that a President represents people of all provinces more than Prime Minister. For instance, parliamentarians (MNAs) of one province in Pakistan (Punjab), on their own without any vote from parliamentarians of other provinces could elect Prime Minister, but this could not happen for President, as in theory a person has to get votes from 'parliamentarians (MNAs and MPAs) and senators' of several provinces to succeed in Presidential election.

[Mr. X]

GEO MUSHARAF!

IE as much as we agree on many issues.

i would not want Musharraf to come back until these people go through the retribution for bring their country from 8% annual growth to brink of bankruptcy.


Some one wise once said, democracy is a tool assure that we must not get better than we deserve.

Whatever government that is left in Pakistan, i would prefer absolute with people who has little bit of conscious in them with sense of national identity and self respect.

Leftists, socialists, progressive are running the pakistan and they are going to kill all and every nation issue, national security.

just watch

[Shehz]

i would not want Musharraf to come back until these people go through the retribution for bring their country from 8% annual growth to brink of bankruptcy.
Some one wise once said, democracy is a tool assure that we must not get better than we deserve.

Whatever government that is left in Pakistan, i would prefer absolute with people who has little bit of conscious in them with sense of national identity and self respect.

Leftists, socialists, progressive are running the pakistan and they are going to kill all and every nation issue, national security.

just watch

My friend, Pakistan is not at the brink, but is already bankrupt.
Emmergency directives have been issued for partial freeze on everyone's foreign currency accounts, Pakistan has nothing to give if one goes for withdrawals.
US has turned down Zardari's request for 'Cash' loans any time soon.

it has been 8 long years of seperation from Canada ! Just checked Etihad's flight it's full .. full ... full .. 20 seats on club class available !

Koi baat nahee, agley saal mil lai-n gey, after 9 long years.

Let us meet somewhere for (Timmies/Dinner/Baskin Robins) this upcoming weekend !!

Do we call you at 1-800-2ALIPH5, or just send you a PM ?
We'll go to Haveli or Cafe De Khan, Mississauga, it'll serve all of our needs.

[HKK]

Put him on trial for treason and screwing up Pakistan down to its foundations.

[Yahya]

Put him on trial for treason and screwing up Pakistan down to its foundations.

your concern should be with what gordon brown has done to your country,,,

[HKK]

your concern should be with what gordon brown has done to your country,,,

Whatever brown is doing to this country cant be worse then what mushy has already done to Pakistan. Damage is already done but atleast we can make a horrible example out of him for any future traitor or sellout.

[Yahya]

Whatever brown is doing to this country cant be worse then what mushy has already done to Pakistan. Damage is already done but atleast we can make a horrible example out of him for any future traitor or sellout.

may be you need to learn that gordon brown has been the exchequer throughout the tony blair era????


learn about your own country first...