Comparison Of Japanese & Chinese Fleets Options

[capt.sathish]

well with the PLAN just racing ahead why does JMSDF feel
extremely comfortable with the present situation? :ermm

[Vaiar]

Just google around a bit, look at Hazegray, GS, the official Japanese Navy site etc and you'll discover why: its navy is a very strong and capable one, both in numbers and quality. I am sure they monitor the growth of the PLAN closely.

[sorwar]

Even with the acquisition of the eight Kilo submarines by 2007, the Chinese will still have an inferior Navy to the Japanese. Any technology that Japan cannot develop indigenously, the US will provide readily(bar nuclear weapons of course). The Japanese already have several Aegis destroyers and only need to ask to be supplied with the F-22. It will be a couple of decades before the Chinese Navy can pose a serious threat to the Japanese one.

[hydropod]

Japan has a huge fleet for a "defense force". Apart from the 3 9.10 fleets and some of the best SSK in the world, just check out how many "corvettes" and "patrol vessels" over 1000 ton displacement that the Japanese coast guard has... And these ships could also be turned into warships just by adding missiles. They already have the electronics and guns in place anyway.

[wallsttrip]

Dude, I'm sorry to say this, another pointless comparsion...

PLAN with DDG 168, 168, 170, 171? or without them?

JMSDF with DDGX? or without it?

Current inventory, it's almost an even match, Strategy will be the diffrence maker.

Japan's current fleet of:

4 DDG Kongo (Stealth featured)
2 DDG Hatakaze
3 DDG Tachikaze
4 DD Takanami, (4 more been build) (stealth featured)
9 DD Murasame
8 DD Asagiri
12 DD Hatsuyuki
2 DD Haruna*
6 DE Abukuma
2 DE Yubari*

5 SS oyashio (5 more been build)
6 SS Harushio
6 SS Yushio*

SSM: Harpoon series
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PLAN Current fleet of:

2 DDG Sovi
1 DDG Luhai
1 DDG Luhu
6 Luda III
10 Luda

8 FFG Jiangwei II
4 FFG Jiangwei I
31 FFG Jianghu *

1 Xia SSBN (PLAN's last card)
5 Han SSN
4 Kilo (4 more been build)
3 Song (upgraded)
19 Ming (upgraded)
35 Romeo *

SSM: C-801, C-802, SSN-22, HY-2*,SY-1*,

*should be retired.

PLAN has more Subs & the ONE SSBN to backup for its weaker surface fleet.

[PEZ]

Dude go to the navy section and read about the stuff posted about the Jap navy. It would kill the Chinese navy

U forgot to mention that the kongo class has aegis system and r equal or better than the US arleigh burkes
around 50 destroyers, escorts and u forgot the 50 + ASW frigates and stealth frigates also
And that JMSDF has over 100 Pc3 orions
And all the subs r far better than the new chinese ones
And that’s without the DDH and the new destroyers and frigates coming out in the decade

so like vaiar said, quality and quantity

Steaklover and reasonable can add more stuff

[steaklover]

Wallstrip definitely did his homework collecting data. I am impressed. I just have a few things to add:

1. There should be only 15 Luda+Luda III. 16 were built during 70s and early 80s. One of them exploded and sank. Therefore, there should be only 15 left -- some of them shall retire pretty soon since they are really old and somewhat outdated.

2. there should be 10 Ming class subs, not 19 (but I can be wrong) and are probably very close to retirement as well. It's not a very successful design. Basically it's an improved version of R class and these subs were built during 70s, but not really that much better than R class.

3. China probably will build another 6-10 Song class subs. But the pace is not as fast as Japan's pace to build their Oyashi (already get 8, 2 more entering service this year and next) and their Next generation sub (16SS) Chinese navy seems very unhappy with this design and experiencing tons of technical difficulties. Kilo class likely will be much more capable than these Song subs.

4. Haruna should be DDH, not DD. They will be replaced by the new 'helicopter carriers' (in reality more like Invincible class AC) in about 5 years.

5. The list should also include Shirane class DDH (2 of these) These are improved version of Haruna. Another rumor is that they will be replaced by two additional 'helicopter carriers' as well. But that would mean Japan will build 4 of the Invicible class ACs -- I just don't see why a 'Self-Defence Force' would need 4 Invincible class ACs (and possibly to be equipped with JSF B)

5. Kongou DDG is not that stealthy. But it's definitely very capable (Aegis system equipped) -- simply the best in Asia in the next 5-10 years, far exceeding Sovi (S. Korea and Taiwan likely will get their hands on a few Burke class destroyers within 10 years, so I cannot predict that far)

6. Another 2 DDG will be built very soon, these are improved version of Kongou with better stealth features. Most important, they will be part of Japan's TMD plan -- capable of intercepting ballistic missiles from N. Korea and China.

7. Japan also has their own domestic designed and built Anti-ship missiles. But I forget the name (ASM-1? ASM-2?) They don't just rely on Harpoons.

I am a total ignorant when it comes to Navy -- more like a Navy illiterate. I would apologize first if there is any mistakes in the data I provided.

[capt.sathish]

CHINESE NAVAL FLEET - PLAN

-------SUBMARINE FLEET---------

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MING CLASS

Ming SS 232
Ming SS 342
Ming SS 352
Ming SS 353
Ming SS 354
Ming SS 355
Ming SS 356
Ming SS 357
Ming SS 358
Ming SS 359
Ming SS 360
Ming SS 361
Ming SS 362
Ming SS 363
Ming SS 305
Ming SS 306
Ming SS 307
Ming SS 308

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HAN CLASS

Han SSN 401
Han SSN 402
Han SSN 403
Han SSN 404
Han SSN 405

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SONG CLASS

Song SS 320
Song SS 321

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KILO CLASS

Kilo SS 364
Kilo SS 365
Kilo SS 366
Kilo SS 367

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XIA CLASS

Xia SSBN 406

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''



---------SURFACE FLEET------------


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SOVERNEMY CLASS DDG

Sovernmey DDG 1
Sovernmey DDG 2

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LUDA I DD CLASS

Xian DD 106
Yinchuan DD 107
Xining DD 108
Kaifeng DD 109
Nanjing DD 131
Hefei DD 132
Chongquang DD 133
Zungi DD 134
Changsha DD 161
Nanning DD 162
Nanchang DD 163
Guilin DD 164
Zhanjiang DD 165

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

LUHU CLASS

Haribing DD 112
Quingdao DD 113

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JIANGWEI FF CLASS

Anqing FF 539
Huainan FF 540
Huaibei FF 541
Tonqling FF 542

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JIANGHU I FF CLASS

Changde FF 509
Shaoxing FF 510
Nantong FF 511
Wuxi FF 512
Huagin FF 513
Zhenjiang FF 514
Xiamen FF 515
Jiujiang FF 516
Nanping FF 517
Jian FF 518
Changzhi FF 519
Ningbo FF 533
Jinhua FF 534
Dandong FF 543
Linfen FF 545
maoming FF 551
Yibin FF 552
Shaoguan FF 553
Anshun FF 554
Zhatong FF 555
Jishou FF 556
Zigong FF 557
Kangding FF 558
Dongguan FF 560
Shantou FF 561
Jianghu1 FFG26 FF562
Jianghu1 FFG27 FF563


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HUANGFEN PTG CLASS
Huangfen 1 PTG
Huangfen 2 PTG
Huangfen 3 PTG
Huangfen 4 PTG
Huangfen 5 PTG
Huangfen 6 PTG
Huangfen 7 PTG
Huangfen 8 PTG
Huangfen 9 PTG
Huangfen 10 PTG
Huangfen 11 PTG
Huangfen 12 PTG
Huangfen 13 PTG
Huangfen 14 PTG
Huangfen 15 PTG
Huangfen 16 PTG
Huangfen 17 PTG
Huangfen 18 PTG
Huangfen 19 PTG
Huangfen 20 PTG
Huangfen 21 PTG
Huangfen 22 PTG
Huangfen 23 PTG
Huangfen 24 PTG
Huangfen 25 PTG
Huangfen 26 PTG
Huangfen 27 PTG
Huangfen 28 PTG
Huangfen 29 PTG
Huangfen 30 PTG
Huangfen 31 PTG
Huangfen 32 PTG
Huangfen 33 PTG
Huangfen 34 PTG



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HONKU PTG CLASS

Honku 1 PTG
Honku 2 PTG
Honku 3 PTG
Honku 4 PTG
Honku 5 PTG
Honku 6 PTG
Honku 7 PTG
Honku 8 PTG
Honku 9 PTG
Honku 10 PTG
Honku 11 PTG
Honku 12 PTG
Honku 13 PTG
Honku 14 PTG
Honku 15 PTG
Honku 16 PTG
Honku 17 PTG
Honku 18 PTG
Honku 19 PTG
Honku 20 PTG

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YUKAN LST CLASS

Yukan LST 927
Yukan LST 929
Yukan LST 930
Yukan LST 931
Yukan LST 932
Yukan LST 933

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T 43 MSO CLASS

T43 MSO 364
T43 MSO 365
T43 MSO 366
T43 MSO 386
T43 MSO 387
T43 MSO 388
T43 MSO 389
T43 MSO 396
T43 MSO 397
T43 MSO 398
T43 MSO 399
T43 MSO 801
T43 MSO 802
T43 MSO 803
T43 MSO 807
T43 MSO 808
T43 MSO 809
T43 MSO 821
T43 MSO 822
T43 MSO 823
T43 MSO 829
T43 MSO 830
T43 MSO 831
T43 MSO 832
T43 MSO 853
T43 MSO 854
T43 MSO 863
T43 MSO 994
T43 MSO 995
T43 MSO 996
T43 MSO 997
T43 MSO 998
T43 MSO 999
T43 MSO 1000
T43 MSO 1001
T43 MSO 1002
T43 MSO 1003

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FUQING AOR CLASS

Taicong AOR 575
Dongyun AOR 615

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___________________________________________

JAPENESE NAVAL FLEET - JMSDF


----------SUBMARINE FLEET---------


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HARISHIO SS CLASS

Haroshio SS 583
Natsushio SS 584
Hayashio SS 585
Arashio SS 586
Wakashio SS 587
Fuyoshio SS 588
Asashio SS 589


'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

------------SURFACE FLEET----------

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

KONGO DDG CLASS

Kongo DDG 173
Kirishma DDG 174
Myoko DDG 175
Chokai DDG 176

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ASAGIRI DD CLASS

Asagiri DD 151
Yamagiri DD 152
Yuogiri DD 153
Amagiri DD 154
Hamagiri DD 155
Setogiri DD 156
Sawagiri DD 157
Umigiri DD 158


'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''


ABUKUMA FF CLASS

Abukuma FF 229
Jintsu FF230
Ayado FF231
Xndai FF232
Chikuma FF233
Tone FF234

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*Airwing not included.
Here are the Stats & the Fleet breakup of the navies,although some people have mentioned additional fleets on the japanese side. I couldn't confirm it,so I didn't add it.
now it is up to you to decide who will win (!)

[steaklover]

1. Take all the small ships (less than 1500 tons) off the China's list (PTG and MSO). These likely belong to coastal guard in Japan. Plus, if a war break out between two forces, these small ships unlikely can go that far to join the fight anyway.

Plus, if you don't do so, some people probably would want to add a motor boat equipped with AK-47 as 'war ship'

2. Add 8 Oyashi subs, probably another 10-20 DDK and DD, and 4 DDHs to Japan's list. I will provide the names tomorrow. I am going to bed right now but know where to get the list.

[Willz]

Even with the acquisition of the eight Kilo submarines by 2007, the Chinese will still have an inferior Navy to the Japanese. Any technology that Japan cannot develop indigenously, the US will provide readily(bar nuclear weapons of course). The Japanese already have several Aegis destroyers and only need to ask to be supplied with the F-22. It will be a couple of decades before the Chinese Navy can pose a serious threat to the Japanese one.

its unlikely that the US will sell/export the F/A-22 to anyone (even though the japs can afford)... i hope they didn't forget about the Pearl Harbour lessons

only 2nd rated export versions of the F-35 are available to the japs in future... like what we are getting here in Australia.

funny how the japs are still paying $120 million USD per F-2, when its a copy of F-16 Block 40. when the Eurofighter is superior and costs $95 million per copy.

i guess the japs have a problem with their maths or maybe they are just a bit nationalistic.

[wallsttrip]

Sea battle between two powers is a very complicated situation, Specially between two navies whom are almost evenly matched. JMSDF has more advanced conventional warships, but PLAN has better SSM with more tactic subs & 1 SSBN that JMSDF can't counter.

Strategies will determine the the outcome.

--Trip--

[steaklover]

Just what I have promised....

Oyashio class:

SS-590 (Oyashio)
SS-591 (Michishio)
SS-592 (Uzushio)
SS-593 (Makishio)
SS-594 (Isoshio)
SS-595 (Narushlo)
SS-596 (Kuroshio)
SS-597 (Takashio)
SS-598 2004
SS-599 2005

DDK


DDK-113 (Yamagumo)
DDK-114 (Makigumo)
DDK-115 (Asagumo)
TV-3512(ex DDK-119) (Aokumo)
TV-3514(ex DDK-120) (Agigumo)
DDK-121 (Yugumo)
DDK-116 (Minegumo)*
DDK-117 ((Natsugumo)*
DDK-118 (Murakumo)*

DD:

DD-122 (Hatsuyuki)
DD-123 (Shirayuki)
DD-124 (Mineyuki)
DD-125 (Sawayuki)
DD-126 (Hamayuki)
DD-127 (Isoyuki)
DD-128 (Haruyuki)
DD-129 (Yamayuki)
DD-130 (Matsuyuki)
DD-131 (Setoyuki)
DD-132 (Asayuki)
TV-3513(ex DD-133) (Shimmayuki)

DD-101 (Murasame)
DD-102 (Harusame)
DD-103 (Yuudachi)
DD-104 (Kirishima)
DD-105 (Inazuma)
DD-106 (Samidare)
DD-107 (Ikazuch)
DD-108 (Akebono)
DD-109 (Ariake)
DD-110 (Takanami)
DD-111 (Onami)
DD-112 (Sasanami)
DD-113 (Makinami)
DD-114 (under construction, complete by 2005 or 2006)

* these ships are in storage. JMSDF tends to keep ships only 16 years or younger in active service.

All the ships above are only what Captain.Sathish has missed from his list -- NOT full list of JMSDF.

It seems JMSDF has advantage both in quantity and quality.

And please do not add any planned ships to the list. Otherwise, JMSDF will have 8 additional new generation subs (16SS), 2 additional next generation DDGs, and 2-4 new DDH (basically Invincible size AC) coming within 6 years -- faster than Chinese can get their hands on Kilo. The advantage will tilt even further to JMSDF.

For attack subs capability, the rank should be:

16SS > Oyashio > Harushio > Kilo > Song II > Song

Ming and Hang are both too old in modern warfare. Xia is basically a enlarged version of Hang to carry Ballistic missile. The track record is horrible. 2 were built -- one exploded and sank the first time it tried to launch a missile, killed everyone onboard. Unless it comes to a nuclear war, Xia will not be sent into a war.

These old subs likely will be sank immediately once the war breaks out due to excessive noise (Xia class produces noise level of 160 db, Hang is not far behind) and outdated equipment.

Yes, war at sea is very complicated. Even luck has a lot to do with it. But to keep discussions simple, we should only focus on quality+quantity+training.

[PEZ]

per F-2, when its a copy of F-16 Block 40.

dude its a heavy improvement over the blk 40, larger (than ne f-16), better avionics (probably up there with blk 52, maybe 60), jap weapons, etc

[steaklover]

Damn!! I still miss a few JMSDF large surface ships:

DDG-168 (Tachikaze)
DDG-169 (Asakaze)
DDG-170 (Sawakaze)
DDG-171 (Hatakaze)
DDG-172 (Shimakaze)

They simply built too many new ships in the last 20 years it's almost impossible to keep track every of these.

DDG-171 and 172 can be seen as Sovi equivalent (or slightly below). But all these ships still lags behind Kongou and new gen DDG by a huge margin. I have no doubt one Kongou can take out 4-5 of these older DDGs.

[steaklover]

its unlikely that the US will sell/export the F/A-22 to anyone (even though the japs can afford)... i hope they didn't forget about the Pearl Harbour lessons

only 2nd rated export versions of the F-35 are available to the japs in future... like what we are getting here in Australia.

funny how the japs are still paying $120 million USD per F-2, when its a copy of F-16 Block 40. when the Eurofighter is superior and costs $95 million per copy.

i guess the japs have a problem with their maths or maybe they are just a bit nationalistic.

About a few months ago, I saw a report in AFM (or is it something else?) discussing possible JADF next gen fighters, these are all considered likely to get, all must built in Japan:

1. Downgraded version of F-22 (most likely candidate, according to AFM and some officials in JADF)

2. full version F-35 (very good price, but Japan want something bigger)

3. Upgraded F/A-18 E/F (very unlikely, even with AESA radar, Japan consider these too not good enough)

4. Typhoon (Europeans would love to make it happen, but Japan still consider performance not up to its requirement, plus Japanese still knows who butter their bread)

5. Self-development (very unlikely. Although Japan should be able to develope something similar to F-22, but the high price and international considerations will prevent this from happening)

When it comes to US weapon export in the last 10 years:

1. Great Britain
2. Japan (similar to GB, but no long range missle sales)
3. NATO/Israel
4. Other 'important allies' or 'allies without an official name while being enemies of foes' (S. Korea, Australia, Taiwan.......etc)
5. Other 'Allies' but friends of foes as well.

Virtually no politicians in US see Japan as a threat but a powerful ally to contain China at sea. Ocean (US and Japan) vs. Continental (China) in East Pacific.

[steaklover]

Tonight will be my Scotch whiskey and perhaps Cuban cigar night. :red>< I don't want to spend too much time here since I still get a life.

Will get back to discussion later.

Sorry for not able to participate. :P

[UD2]

you guys think you're good doing the Chinese and Jap navies? well here is the American Navy... DOWN TO THE LAST SUPPLY SHIP. 3rd time I posted this (made it up like last year when I first posted it), but I'm still proud.

Catg - Class- Displacement - Name - Number - Home Port




CVN

Nimitz Class

Displacement: 89,600 tons ( 81,283.8 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Nimitz (CVN 68), San Diego, Calif.
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69), Newport News, Va.
USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70), Bremerton, Wash.
USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71), Norfolk, Va.
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72), Everett, Wash.
USS George Washington (CVN 73), Norfolk, Va.
USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74), San Diego, Calif.
USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75), Norfolk, Va.
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76), San Diego, Calif.
George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) (keel laying 6 Sept 2003)


Enterprise Class

Displacement: 89,600 tons ( 81,283.8 metric tons) full load
Ship:USS Enterprise (CVN 65), Norfolk, Va.


CV

John F. Kennedy Class

Displacement: 82,000 tons (74,389.1 metric tons) full load
Ship: USS John F. Kennedy (CV 67); Mayport, Fla.


Kitty Hawk Class

Displacement: Approx. 80,800 tons (73,300.5 metric tons) full load
Ship:USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63), Yokosuka, Japan


CG

Ticonderoga Class

Displacement: 9,600 tons (9,754.06 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Ticonderoga (CG 47), Pascagoula, Miss.
USS Yorktown (CG 48), Pascagoula, Miss.
USS Vincennes (CG 49), Yokosuka, Japan
USS Valley Forge (CG 50), San Diego, Calif.
USS Thomas S. Gates (CG 51), Pascagoula, Miss.
USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), San Diego, Calif.
USS Mobile Bay (CG 53), San Diego, Calif.
USS Antietam (CG 54), San Diego, Calif.
USS Leyte Gulf (CG 55), Norfolk, Va.
USS San Jacinto (CG 56), Norfolk, Va.
USS Lake Champlain (CG 57), San Diego, Calif.
USS Philippine Sea (CG 58), Mayport, Fla.
USS Princeton (CG 59), San Diego, Calif.
USS Normandy (CG 60), Norfolk, Va.
USS Monterey (CG 61), Norfolk, Va.
USS Chancellorsville (CG 62), Yokosuka, Japan
USS Cowpens (CG 63), Yokosuka, Japan
USS Gettysburg (CG 64), Mayport, Fla.
USS Chosin (CG 65), Pearl Harbor, HI
USS Hue City (CG 66), Mayport, Fla.
USS Shiloh (CG 67), San Diego, Calif.
USS Anzio (CG 68), Norfolk, Va.
USS Vicksburg (CG 69), Mayport, Fla.
USS Lake Erie (CG 70), Pearl Harbor, HI
USS Cape St. George (CG 71), Norfolk, Va.
USS Vella Gulf (CG 72), Norfolk, Va.
USS Port Royal (CG 73), Pearl Harbor, HI


DD, DDG

Arleigh Burke class

Displacements:
Hulls 51 through 71: 8,315 tons (8,448.04 metric tons) full load
Hulls 72 through 78: 8,400 tons (8,534.4 metric tons) full load
Hulls 79 and on: 9,200 tons (9,347.2 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Arleigh Burke (DDG 51), Norfolk, Va.
USS Barry (DDG 52), Norfolk, Va.
USS John Paul Jones (DDG 53), San Diego, Calif.
USS Curtis Wilbur (DDG 54), Yokosuka, Japan
USS Stout (DDG 55), Norfolk, Va.
USS John S. McCain (DDG 56), Yokosuka, Japan
USS Mitscher (DDG 57), Norfolk, Va.
USS Laboon (DDG 58), Norfolk, Va.
USS Russell (DDG 59), Pearl Harbor, HI
USS Paul Hamilton (DDG 60), Pearl Harbor, HI
USS Ramage (DDG 61), Norfolk, Va.
USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62), San Diego, Calif.
USS Stethem (DDG 63), San Diego, Calif.
USS Carney (DDG 64), Mayport, Fla.
USS Benfold (DDG 65), San Diego, Calif.
USS Gonzalez (DDG 66), Norfolk, Va.
USS Cole (DDG 67), Norfolk, Va.
USS The Sullivans (DDG 68), Mayport, Fla.
USS Milius (DDG 69), San Diego, Calif.
USS Hopper (DDG 70), Pearl Harbor, HI
USS Ross (DDG 71), Norfolk, Va.
USS Mahan (DDG 72), Norfolk, Va.
USS Decatur (DDG 73), San Diego, Calif.
USS McFaul (DDG 74), Norfolk, Va.
USS Donald Cook (DDG 75), Norfolk, Va.
USS Higgins (DDG 76), San Diego, Calif.
USS O'Kane (DDG 77), Pearl Harbor Hawaii
USS Porter (DDG 78), Norfolk, Va.
USS Oscar Austin (DDG 79), Norfolk, Va.
USS Roosevelt (DDG 80), Mayport, Fla.
USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG 81), Norfolk, Va.
USS Lassen (DDG 82), San Diego, Calif.
USS Howard (DDG 83), San Diego, Calif.
USS Bulkeley (DDG 84), Norfolk, Va.
USS McCampbell (DDG 85), San Diego, Calif.
USS Shoup (DDG 86), Everett, Wa.
USS Mason (DDG 87), Norfolk, Va.
USS Preble (DDG 88), San Diego, Calif.
USS Mustin (DDG 89), San Diego, Calif.
USS Chafee (DDG 90), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
Pinckney (DDG 91), under construction
Momsen (DDG 92)
Chung-Hoon (DDG 93)
Nitze (DDG 94)
James E. Williams (DDG 95)
Bainbridge (DDG 96)
Halsey (DDG 97)
Forrest Sherman (DDG 98)
Farragut (DDG 99)


Spruance class

Displacement: 8,040 tons (8,168.64 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Spruance (DD 963), Mayport, Fla.
USS O'Brien (DD 975), Yokosuka, Japan
USS Stump (DD 978), Norfolk, Va.
USS Cushing (DD 985), Yokosuka, Japan
USS O'Bannon (DD 987), Mayport, Fla.
USS Thorn (DD 988), Norfolk, Va.
USS Fletcher(DD 992), Pearl Harbor, Hi.


FFG

Oliver Hazard Perry Class

Displacement: 4,100 tons (4,165.80 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS McInerney (FFG 8), Mayport, Fla.
USS Boone (FFG 28), Mayport, Fla.
USS Stephen W. Groves (FFG 29), Pascagoula, Miss.
USS John L. Hall (FFG 32), Pascagoula, Miss.
USS Jarrett (FFG 33), San Diego, Calif.
USS Underwood (FFG 36), Mayport, Fla.
USS Crommelin (FFG 37), Pearl Harbor, HI
USS Curts (FFG 38), San Diego, Calif.
USS Doyle (FFG 39), Mayport, Fla.
USS Halyburton (FFG 40), Mayport, Fla.
USS McClusky (FFG 41), San Diego, Calif.
USS Klakring (FFG 42), Norfolk, Va.
USS Thach (FFG 43), San Diego, Calif.
USS De Wert (FFG 45), Mayport, Fla.
USS Rentz (FFG 46), San Diego, Calif.
USS Nicholas (FFG 47), Norfolk, Va.
USS Vandegrift (FFG 48), Yokosuka, Japan
USS Robert G. Bradley (FFG 49), Mayport, Fla.
USS Taylor (FFG 50), Mayport, Fla.
USS Gary (FFG 51), Yokosuka, Japan
USS Carr (FFG 52), Norfolk, Va.
USS Hawes (FFG 53), Norfolk, Va.
USS Ford (FFG 54), Everett, Wash.
USS Elrod (FFG 55), Norfolk, Va.
USS Simpson (FFG 56), Norfolk, Va.
USS Reuben James (FFG 57), Pearl Harbor, HI
USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG 58), Mayport, Fla.
USS Kauffman (FFG 59), Norfolk, Va.
USS Rodney M. Davis (FFG 60), Everett, Wash.
USS Ingraham (FFG 61), Everett, Wash.


Ammunition Ships - AE

Kiluauea Class

Displacement: Approximately 18,088 tons full load
Ships:
USS Mount Hood (AE 29), Bremerton, Wash.



Amphibious Assault Ships - LHA/LHD

Wasp Class

Displacement:
LHDs 1-4: 40,650 tons full load (41,302.3 metric tons)
LHDs 5-7: 40,358 tons full load (41,005.6 metric tons)
LHD 8: 41,772 tons full load (42,442.3 metric tons)
Ships:
USS Wasp (LHD 1), Norfolk, Va.
USS Essex (LHD 2), Sasebo, Japan
USS Kearsarge (LHD 3), Norfolk, Va.
USS Boxer (LHD 4), San Diego, Calif.
USS Bataan (LHD 5), Norfolk, Va.
USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD 6), San Diego, Calif.
USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7), Norfolk, Va.
Makin Island (LHD 8) (planned)


Tarawa Class

Displacement: 39,400 tons (40,032 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Tarawa (LHA 1), San Diego, Calif.
USS Saipan (LHA 2), Norfolk, Va.
USS Belleau Wood (LHA 3), San Diego, Calif.
USS Nassau (LHA 4), Norfolk, Va.
USS Peleliu (LHA 5), San Diego, Calif.



Amphibious Command Ships - LCC

Displacement: 18,874 tons (19,176.89 metric tons) full load
Units:
USS Blue Ridge (LCC 19), Yokosuka, Japan
USS Mount Whitney (LCC 20), Norfolk, Va.


Amphibious Transport Dock - LPD

San Antonio class

Displacement: Approximately 24,900 tons (25,300 metric tons) full load
Ships:
San Antonio (LPD 17)
New Orleans (LPD 18)
Mesa Verde (LPD 19)
Green Bay (LPD 20)
New York (LPD 21)



Command Ship - AGF

La Salle Class

Displacement: 14,650 tons (14,885.10 metric tons)
Ship: USS La Salle (AGF 3), Forward deployed to Gaeta, Italy.


Coronado Class

Displacement: 16,912 tons (17,183.41 metric tons)
Ship: USS Coronado (AGF 11), San Diego, Calif.


Dock Landing Ship - LSD

Harpers Ferry Class

Displacement: 16,708 tons (16,976.13 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Harpers Ferry (LSD 49); Sasebo, Japan.
USS Carter Hall (LSD 50); Little Creek, Va.
USS Oak Hill (LSD 51); Little Creek, Va.
USS Pearl Harbor (LSD 52); San Diego, Calif.


Whidbey Island Class

Displacement: 15,939 tons (16,194.79 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Whidbey Island (LSD 41); Little Creek, Va.
USS Germantown (LSD 42); San Diego, Calif.
USS Fort McHenry (LSD 43); Sasebo, Japan
USS Gunston Hall (LSD 44); Little Creek, Va.
USS Comstock (LSD 45); San Diego, Calif.
USS Tortuga (LSD 46); Little Creek, Va.
USS Rushmore (LSD 47); San Diego, Calif.
USS Ashland (LSD 48); Little Creek, Va.


Fast Combat Support Ships - AOE

Supply Class

Displacement: 48,800 tons (49,583.15 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Bridge (AOE 10), Bremerton, Wash.

Sacramento Class

Displacement: 53,000 tons (53,850.55 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Sacramento (AOE 1), Bremerton, WA
USS Camden (AOE 2), Bremerton, WA
USS Seattle (AOE 3), Earle, NJ
USS Detroit (AOE 4), Earle, NJ


Coastal Mine Hunters - MHC

Osprey class

Displacement: 893 tons (907.33 metric tons) full load
Ships: All MHC ships are based in Ingleside, Texas (unless noted)
USS Osprey (MHC 51)
USS Heron (MHC 52)
USS Pelican (MHC 53)
USS Robin (MHC 54)
USS Oriole (MHC 55)
USS Kingfisher (MHC 56)
USS Cormorant (MHC 57)
USS Black Hawk (MHC 58),
USS Falcon (MHC 59)
USS Cardinal (MHC 60), forward deployed to Manama, Bahrain
USS Raven (MHC 61), forward deployed to Manama, Bahrain
USS Shrike (MHC 62)



Mine Countermeasures Ships - MCM

Avenger class

Displacement: 1,312 tons (1,333.06 metric tons) full load
Ships: All MCM 1 class ships are based in Ingleside, Texas (unless noted)
USS Avenger (MCM 1)
USS Defender (MCM 2)
USS Sentry (MCM 3)
USS Champion (MCM 4)
USS Guardian (MCM 5); Permanently forwarded deployed Sasebo, Japan
USS Devastator (MCM 6)
USS Patriot (MCM 7); Permanently forwarded deployed Sasebo, Japan
USS Scout (MCM 8)
USS Pioneer (MCM 9)
USS Warrior (MCM 10)
USS Gladiator (MCM 11)
USS Ardent (MCM 12); forward deployed to Manama, Bahrain
USS Dextrous (MCM 13); forward deployed to Manama, Bahrain
USS Chief (MCM 14)


Patrol Coastal Ships - PC

Cyclone Class

Displacement: 331 tons (336.31 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Tempest (PC 2), Little Creek, Va.
USS Hurricane (PC 3), San Diego, Calif.
USS Monsoon (PC 4), San Diego, Calif.
USS Typhoon (PC 5), Little Creek, Va.
USS Sirocco (PC 6), Little Creek, Va.
USS Squall (PC 7), San Diego, Calif.
USS Zephyr (PC 8), San Diego, Calif.
USS Chinook (PC 9), Little Creek, Va.
USS Firebolt (PC 10) , Little Creek, Va.
USS Whirlwind (PC 11), Little Creek, Va.
USS Thunderbolt (PC 12), Little Creek, Va.
USS Shamal (PC 13), Little Creek, Va.
USS Tornado (PC 14), Little Creek, Va.


Rescue and Salvage Ships - ARS

Safeguard class

Displacement: 3,282 tons (3,334.67 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Safeguard (ARS 50), Pearl Harbor, HI
USS Grasp (ARS 51), Little Creek, Va.
USS Salvor (ARS 52), Pearl Harbor, HI
USS Grapple (ARS 53), Little Creek, Va.

Submarine Tenders - AS

L.Y. Spear Class

Displacement: Approximately 23,493 tons (23,870.02 metric tons) full load
Ships:
USS Emory S. Land (AS 39), La Maddalena, Italy
USS Frank Cable (AS 40), Guam


Attack Submarines - SSN

Virginia class

Displacement: Approx. 7,800 tons (7,925.18 metric tons)
Ships:
Virginia (SSN 774), under construction; delivery in 2004
Texas (SSN 775), under construction; delivery in 2005
Hawaii (SSN 776), under construction; delivery in 2006
North Carolina (SSN 777), named 11 December 2000; delivery in 2007



Seawolf class

Displacement: 8,060 tons (8,189.35 metric tons) surfaced; 9,150 tons (9,296.84 metric tons) submerged
Ships:
USS Seawolf (SSN 21), Groton, Ct.
USS Connecticut (SSN 22), Groton, Ct.
Jimmy Carter (SSN 23), (under construction)


Los Angeles class

Displacement: Approx. 6,900 tons (7010.73 metric tons) submerged
Ships:
USS Los Angeles (SSN 688), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Philadelphia (SSN 690), Groton, Conn.
USS Memphis (SSN 691), Groton, Conn.
USS Bremerton (SSN 698), San Diego, Calif.
USS Jacksonville (SSN 699), Norfolk, Va.
USS Dallas (SSN 700), Groton, Conn.
USS La Jolla (SSN 701), Pearl Harbor, Hi.
USS City of Corpus Christi (SSN 705), Guam.
USS Albuquerque (SSN 706), Portsmouth, NH
USS Portsmouth (SSN 707), San Diego, Calif.
USS Minneapolis-St. Paul (SSN 708), Norfolk, Va.
USS Hyman G. Rickover (SSN 709), Norfolk, Va.
USS Augusta (SSN 710), Groton, Conn.
USS San Francisco (SSN 711), Guam.
USS Houston (SSN 713), Bremerton, Wa.
USS Norfolk (SSN 714), Norfolk, Va.
USS Buffalo (SSN 715), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Salt Lake City (SSN 716), San Diego, Calif.
USS Olympia (SSN 717), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Honolulu (SSN 718), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Providence (SSN 719), Groton, Conn.
USS Pittsburgh (SSN 720), Groton, Conn.
USS Chicago (SSN 721), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Key West (SSN 722), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Oklahoma City (SSN 723), Norfolk, Va.
USS Louisville (SSN 724), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Helena (SSN 725), San Diego, Calif.
USS Newport News (SSN 750), Norfolk, Va.
USS San Juan (SSN 751), Groton, Conn.
USS Pasadena (SSN 752), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Albany (SSN 753), Norfolk, Va.
USS Topeka (SSN 754), San Diego, Calif.
USS Miami (SSN 755), Groton, Conn.
USS Scranton (SSN 756), Norfolk, Va.
USS Alexandria (SSN 757), Groton, Conn.
USS Asheville (SSN 758), San Diego, Calif.
USS Jefferson City (SSN 759), San Diego, Calif.
USS Annapolis (SSN 760), Groton, Conn.
USS Springfield (SSN 761), Groton, Conn.
USS Columbus (SSN 762), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Santa Fe (SSN 763), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Boise (SSN 764), Norfolk, Va.
USS Montpelier (SSN 765), Norfolk, Va.
USS Charlotte (SSN 766), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
USS Hampton (SSN 767), Norfolk, Va.
USS Hartford (SSN 768), Groton, Conn.
USS Toledo (SSN 769), Groton, Conn.
USS Tucson (SSN 770), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Columbia (SSN 771), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Greeneville (SSN 772), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Cheyenne (SSN 773), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii


Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarines - SSBN

Ohio Class

Displacement: 16,764 tons (17,033.03 metric tons) surfaced; 18,750 tons (19,000.1 metric tons) submerged
Ships:
Homeported at the Naval Submarine Base, Bangor, Washington:
USS Michigan (SSBN 727) — conversion to SSGN scheduled for October 2003
USS Georgia (SSBN 729) — conversion to SSGN scheduled for 2004
USS Henry M. Jackson (SSBN 730)
USS Alabama (SSBN 731)
USS Alaska (SSBN 732)
USS Nevada (SSBN 733)
USS Pennsylvania (SSBN 735)
USS Kentucky (SSBN 737)
Homeported at the Naval Submarine Base, Kings Bay, Georgia:
USS Tennessee (SSBN 734)
USS West Virginia (SSBN 736)
USS Maryland (SSBN 738)
USS Nebraska (SSBN 739)
USS Rhode Island (SSBN 740)
USS Maine (SSBN 741)
USS Wyoming (SSBN 742)
USS Louisiana (SSBN 743)
Ships undergoing conversion to SSGN:
USS Ohio (SSBN 726) — Out of service 29 Oct. 2002 for conversion to SSGN, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard
USS Florida (SSBN 728) — conversion to SSGN scheduled for October 2003, Norfolk, Va.


Guided Missile Submarines — SSGN

Ohio Class

Displacement: 16,764 tons (17,033.03 metric tons) surfaced; 18,750 tons (19,000.1 metric tons) submerged
Ships:
USS Ohio (SSBN 726) — Out of service 29 Oct. 2002 for conversion to SSGN
USS Michigan (SSBN 727) — conversion to SSGN scheduled for October 2003
USS Florida (SSBN 728) — conversion to SSGN scheduled for October 2003
USS Georgia (SSBN 729) — conversion to SSGN scheduled for 2004


Deep Submergence Rescue Vehicle - DSRV

DSRV

Displacement: 38 tons (38.61 metric tons)
Ships:
Mystic (DSRV 1)
Avalon (DSRV 2)

This post has been edited by UD2: Jun 29 2004, 11:09 PM

[steaklover]

Prop, Prop, Prop...... :)Clp

I am amazed by how complete the list is. The biggest fleet I can do so is probably JMSDF. USN is out of my reach.

Hopefully more people on this board are willing to spend their time to do their research and less time posting things like 'Su30MKI/MKK will kick F-22's butt', 'FC-1 is comparable with JAS-39', and 'Song/Kilo/Agosta is the best diesel sub in the world' :unigrad

Again, all the prop to UD2. :)Clp