Is Pn Getting More P3c?, Sale of more P3C notified to Congress Options

[Hammad]

I was reading CDI pages & noticed the following:

6 C-130E planes with engines; 1 C-130E operational capabilities upgrade aircraft for cannibalization with engines; upgrade of Allison 56-A-15 engines; 3 P-3 Orion maritime surveillance aircraft, Harpoon missiles and other aircraft

Company: N/A

Transfer Type: FMS $400million

Status: Congress notified
7/16/02

http://www.cdi.org/search/_search.cfm?Sear...kistan&Start=21

Is this true???

[Valkyrie]

yep, its part of the foreign military aid package.

[PAKISTANI4LIFE]

THEN HOW COME FAS DOESNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT??????


AND WHY R WE GETTING SO MANY C-130'S? WE SHOULD GET MORE THAN 3 P-3'S


PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pkflg)

[nextdrabdulqadee...]

Are you kidding me???According to the website India is getting 30 P3's

[loc down]

as if

[rafale]

Are you kidding me???According to the website India is getting 30 P3's

india is getting p-3b sale is not finilized pakistani is getting p-3c defanatly in 3billion aid pakage O:)

[PakShaheen]

Good News If it comes true...Afterall supplier is AMERICA.. :lol:

[Guest_airchiefmarshal_*]

india is getting p-3b sale is not finilized pakistani is getting p-3c defanatly in 3billion  aid pakage O:)

just in case if anyone didn't know, i read in a newspaper on the net that P-3Cs are more capable than P-3Bs.

P-3B Orion:
The P-3 is a 4-engine turboprop capable of long duration flights of 8-12 hours, large payloads up to 15,000 pounds, altitudes up to 30,000 feet and true airspeeds up to 330 knots. The aircraft has been modified by the Wallops Facility with a "glass" cockpit or electronic flight instrumentation system (EFIS) and a flight management system (FMS). The FMS integrates redundant laser reference, inertial navigation and GPS position data onto composite cockpit CRT displays with weather radar and graphical flight plan overlays. The EFIS outputs flight data to an ARINC 429 datastream for integration into user data systems.

Some of the airborne science-supporting features of this aircraft include numerous zenith, nadir and oblique ports to mount experiments. Most of the ports are contained within the pressurized cabin environment. However, a unique equipment bay has been designed into the former munitions bay. This roomy and unpressurized equipment bay provides large nadir and oblique ports and combines ease of installation with convenient access during ground operation for the largest antennas or sensors.

Electrical power is abundant. Power at 110/60 Hz AC, 110/400 Hz AC and 28VDC regulated is distributed throughout the aircraft for use via mil-standard connections. Unique power requirements are easily accommodated.

P-3C Orion:
Description: Four-engine turboprop anti-submarine and maritime surveillance aircraft.

Features: Originally designed as a land-based, long-range, anti-submarine warfare (ASW) patrol aircraft, the P-3C's mission has evolved in the late 1990s and early 21st century to include surveillance of the battlespace, either at sea or over land. Its long range and long loiter time have proved invaluable assets during Operation Iraqi Freedom as it can view the battlespace and instantaneously provide that information to ground troops, especially U.S. Marines. The P-3C has advanced submarine detection sensors such as directional frequency and ranging (DIFAR) sonobuoys and magnetic anomaly detection (MAD) equipment. The avionics system is integrated by a general purpose digital computer that supports all of the tactical displays, monitors and automatically launches ordnance and provides flight information to the pilots. In addition, the system coordinates navigation information and accepts sensor data inputs for tactical display and storage. The P-3C can carry a mixed payload of weapons internally and on wing pylons.

Background: In February 1959, the Navy awarded Lockheed a contract to develop a replacement for the aging P2V Neptune. The P3V Orion, derived from Lockheed's successful L188 Electra airliner, entered the inventory in July 1962, and more than 30 years later it remains the Navy's sole land-based antisubmarine warfare aircraft. It has gone through one designation change (P3V to P-3) and three major models: P-3A, P-3B, and P-3C, the latter being the only one now in active service. The last Navy P-3 came off the production line at the Lockheed plant in April 1990.

General Characteristics
Primary Function: Antisubmarine warfare(ASW)/Antisurface warfare (ASUW)
Contractor: Lockheed Martin Aeronautical Systems Company
Unit Cost: $36 million
Propulsion: Four Allison T-56-A-14 turboprop engines (4,900 shaft horsepower each)
Length: 116 feet 7 inches (35.57 meters)
Wingspan: 99 feet 6 inches (30.36 meters)
Height: 33 feet 7 inches (10.27 meters)
Weight: Max gross take-off: 139,760 pounds (63,394.1 kg)
Speed: maximum - 411 knots (466 mph, 745 kmph); cruise - 328 knots (403 mph, 644 kmph)
Ceiling: 28,300 feet (8,625.84 meters)
Range: Maximum mission range - 2,380 nautical miles (2,738.9 miles);
for three hours on station at 1,500 feet - 1,346 nautical miles (1,548.97 miles)
Crew: 11
Armament: 20,000 pounds (9 metric tons) of ordnance including:Harpoon (AGM-84D) cruise missile, SLAM (AGM-84E) missiles, Maverick (AGM 65) air-to-ground missiles, MK-46/50 torpedoes, rockets, mines, depth bombs, and special weapons.

[Squadron Leader]

India isn't getting any P-3s, thats final.

[Oqaab]

India isn't getting any P-3s, thats final.

India will be getting 12 P-3 orions for ur kind information.

[thouse]

Whats the confirmation for the news that India is not getting any P-3s. What are the different roles for Atlantiques and Orions.

[Munir]

http://www.dsca.osd.mil/PressReleases/36-b...b/36b_index.htm

[TNP]

Haven't heard anything about the P-3C Orion deal
to Pakistan for a while... We need some updated
information on whats going on with that.

[rafale]

DO U PPL KNOW THAT USA IS PHASING ITS P-3B OUT AND INDIA IS GOING TO GET P-3B THAT MEANS USA WANT TO DRAG SOME MONEY FROM THEM THATS ALL PAKISTANI NAVING WILL BE GETTING P-3C WHICH WILL REMANE IS SERVIC WITH US FOR 5 YEAS ATLEAST OR MORE

[S.R.A.H]

how much does it cost???

[PakistanSSG]

The P3C is $36 million :ermm

[H Khan]

South Korea faces losing P-3B slot, warns USA

Flight International 02 Dec 2003


BRENDAN SOBIE / SINGAPORE

Washington says aircraft could go out to India if deal is not complete by year-end South Korea has been told to complete its proposed purchase of eight ex-US Navy Lockheed Martin P-3B Orions by the year-end or risk losing them to India.

Industry sources say the US government has refused to extend its offer to South Korea, which first requested the aircraft three years ago. The programme has been delayed by budget constraints, but Seoul has earmarked funds to kick-start the project in 2004. It plans to select a vendor early next year to upgrade the aircraft. Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) and L-3 Communications are competing against Korean Air Aerospace and Lockheed Martin for the contract.

Interest in surplus Orions is intensifying in Asia, with maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) requirements in India, Pakistan, Taiwan and Thailand. KAI and L-3 are proposing to meet Thailand's need for three or four refurbished Orions as part of a strategic marketing alliance signed earlier this year to pursue projects across Asia. India needs up to 30 aircraft while Pakistan and Taiwan are evaluating MPA alternatives with each having requirement for eight P-3 Orions.

"We're in a tremendous search mode with KAI for other opportunities," says L-3 Integrated Systems president Robert Drewes.

L-3 is the prime contractor in the Australian P-3C upgrade programme and is pitching to upgrade six P-3Ks for New Zealand, where it competes with EADS Casa and Lockheed Martin. A contract is due to be awarded in early 2004.

The Indian, South Korean and Thai programmes involve reactivating Orions stored in the USA, refurbishing the airframe, engines and landing gear to support an extended service life, and installing a new mission system. L-3 plans to upgrade the first two aircraft in the USA before transferring work to KAI, which would modify all additional aircraft and help L-3 develop a new data management system.

There should be no shortage of Orions available for Asian operators as fatigue problems are forcing the USN to accelerate the retirement of its fleet (Flight International, 25 November-1 December). But South Korea is keen on the eight P-3Bs on offer, which have slightly heavier airframes than its eight P-3Cs.